NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2225 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 6:25 am

In post 2224, Nero Cain wrote:I'm skimming? ok, if I were skimming then I'd have no reason to ask for a tl;dr.

Read it yourself.

Kublai Khan · Post Post #2226 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 6:27 am

In post 2224, Nero Cain wrote:I'm skimming? ok, if I were skimming then I'd have no reason to ask for a tl;dr.

You've only read the number of pages. I'm floored at the shallowness of your reading.

Kublai Khan · Post Post #2227 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 6:30 am

In post 2226, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 2224, Nero Cain wrote:I'm skimming? ok, if I were skimming then I'd have no reason to ask for a tl;dr.
You've only read the number of pages. I'm floored at the shallowness of your reading.

Actually, do read it, Nero Cain. Besides the first 30 pages, the last 30 pages have been the most important so far and features a lot of game shifts. They can't be summarized easily as there has been a lot of nuanced play.

Seanald · Post Post #2228 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 6:48 am

I made a nuanced play on your mom and there ended up being some major game shifts later that night.

On phone right now at work, I'll get to your question syr in a bit

<<< Watch it, Seanald. Your post was reported. >>>

PeregrineV · Post Post #2229 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 8:03 am

@Nacho- Looks like you are the current lynch candidate. Can you tell me why while I go back and read?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2230 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 8:06 am

After you're done reading, you tell me.

thezmon221 · Post Post #2231 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 8:11 am

In post 2181, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:But a Nero lynch is better. C'mon Nacho.

Have you shown why you think Nero is scum? If so, could you redirect me? If not, could you tell me? It seems like a novel, and maybe slightly random, read.

You know, I was about to really be on board with the Baby Spice lynch. Her post #2197 was truly terrible, as pointed out by Syry. Like, I had written out my vote as well as my reasons for the vote, only to then see her rage-replace vote. However, the frustration she inhibited and her replace out makes me want to wait for penguin to post some stuff for us since we still have a bit under a week.

mastin2 · Post Post #2232 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 8:19 am

Not the best flavor I can create, but it's quick, simple, and still effective; you now know why the replacements are here.

Forty-fifth Votecount

:

(

AKA, the "Well, at least you guys only have one new page.

" votecount

)

Desperado - 5 (Cephrir, Om the Destroyer, ArcAngel9, Thor665, Bulbazak)

penguin_alien - 4 (Nachomamma8, Syryana, Kublai Khan, Red Ryu)

Nachomamma8 - 3 (Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Desperado)
fuzzybutternut - 2 (thezmon221, Oversoul)
Om the Destroyer - 1 (fuzzybutternut)
BeautyAndTheBeast - 1 (Nero Cain)
Thor665 - 1 (Slandaar)
ArcAngel9 - 1 (Bacde)
Nero Cain - 1 (BeautyAndTheBeast)

Not Voting - 5 (ThAdmiral, EddieFenix, Amethyst Kitty, PeregrineV, penguin_alien)

With

24

players alive, it's

13

to lynch.

If deadline were to hit now, Desperado would be lynched.

New deadline is Tuesday, May 28th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-28 12:31:59).

At least half of the Amethyst Kitty hydra is V/LA until Tuesday, May 21st.
Nero Cain is V/LA until Thursday, May 23rd.
fuzzybutternut is V/LA until Thursday, May 23rd.

Spoiler: changes from last official votecount

Spoiler: Player Vote History

Spoiler: Voting History

PeregrineV · Post Post #2233 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 8:42 am

Finished page 10. I hope to hell we didn't massclaim.

All my evidence points to massclaim day1=scum win.

PeregrineV · Post Post #2234 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 9:04 am

In post 2230, Nachomamma8 wrote:After you're done reading, you tell me.

I will when I get to that part, but I think you would have a vested interest in understanding your wagon.

Bacde · Post Post #2235 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 9:13 am

VOTE: nachomamma8

nvm he's scum

I messed up the past couple of days

I completely understand if I've shot my credibility in the foot

but to be honestly not that many people thought I was that credible

doesn't matter though, I'm right

nacho is scum

Bacde · Post Post #2236 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 9:28 am

@Peregrine, here's the case on nacho

and yes, I'm back on board with nacho-scum

we are lynching this mofo

sorry to make you stop flying nacho, its just that you have a scum PM

In post 1202, Bacde wrote:
In post 1200, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1193, Bacde wrote:Smurf you guys are gonna let scumcho right through your fingers
Link or restatement of your case on Nacho?
He's acting like
you
do when you are scum

you know, he's acting like an experienced scum player

his scumreads are few and far between

his only posts are purposely constructed to appear town without actually doing tough town work

he tunneled on the worst case I've ever seen nacho tunnel on in my life

and he was convinced about it

and now that no one followed him on the OS case, he is acting like it never happened

he isn't addressing me as though I have a real case because he wants to sweep this under the rug (and he knows I'm serious about this read and he knows that I can build a smurfing bandwagon by myself), yet he is addressing everyone else and their points

here's the thing--OS
COULD
be scum, but its something that Nacho hopped on extremely excitedly with no regard for anything else because he needs to latch on to SOMETHING to push to pretend like he is town

its the same way that in 1393 you latched on to AP making a small "lie" about whether he had read into your meta deeply or if he had skimmed your games--the point really doesn't smurfing matter that much but a scum will push it like dragon eggs because they don't want to have to think about the game analytically

also he proposed a massclaim on d1 for no reason and pushed that

nacho is being cheeky scum right now and people are letting him get away with it

In post 1422, Bacde wrote:
In post 1420, thezmon221 wrote:Yes, I've played with Nacho before.

I also considered Ceph to be null, so that part isn't exactly an issue. His read overall has been a tossup for me. I felt he had good motivation in his posts, but Jiffy convinced me of a light for other posts of him, which is why he's null and not one way or the other. He showed a distaste for fuzzy when fuzzy made the unnecessary, and rather opportunistic pseudo-contribution, post, which I'm all for. Whether he would have voted if I didn't or not, I won't know, but I don't feel the sheep is explicitly a scummy sheep regardless.

Besides, we still have almost a week, so we have time. The fact of the matter is, I don't think Nacho is a good enough lynch at this point in time. His beginning was crap, but I like his recent posts, even if I don't agree with them.

<<< Actually, it's over a week--almost two weeks, in fact. Deadline for D1 was set at three weeks, not two, meaning you've still got a week and a half (12 days as of this edit) left. Deadline isn't next Monday, but the Monday after that. >>>
Nacho knows that his more recent posts are better,
that's why he made them

but nothing in his recent posts screamed town
AND YOU'D BETTER BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY NACHO MAKES POSTS THAT SCREAM TOWN

the entire purpose of his "reads" posts was just to get more townreads from people not confident enough to lynch him

did you notice how nacho asked me if I saw a "keyword" or something in his posts? He was trying to act like he was confident that I wasn't reading his posts (even though I've been reading every letter). The entire way nacho is ignoring the wagon on him and ESPECIALLY ignoring me
SCREAMS
scum-nacho, and the way CTD is misrepresenting every aspect of my posts screams scum-partner

There's a reason nacho's play improved (only slightly) RIGHT AFTER I started this bandwagon on him for him having shitty posts. ITS. BECAUSE. NACHO. IS. SCUM.

PS--just wanted to add this in because I was thinking about how shitty CTD is at representing me. If I was ever "backing off" nacho, then why was I so insistent that he be vigged? And why did I never unvote him? Oh, I guess I was never backing off him in the first place

In post 1514, Bacde wrote:
In post 1503, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1494, Bulbazak wrote:If you are town, do you know how stupid this is? You're basically saying you're willing to put town down -4 if you're wrong. Where's the town motivation in that?
Pride.
Does anyone else see how nacho makes a post like this, and then a bunch of townsfolk all say "WTF IT WAS PRIDE?! SCREW THAT! WE CAN'T LYNCH NACHO"

Trust me, nacho knows what he's doing, and nacho knows how to play scum

Guys, it wasn't pride

Pride has absolutely nothing to do with it

NACHO. IS. SCUM.

thats all there is to it

If ANYTHING, it has more to do with experimentation than pride, I'm experimenting with a new style

I like to call it "anti-scum to the extreme"

In post 1516, Bacde wrote:Nacho isn't playing to "out his reads" or "find scum" this game, he's
manipulating people
(and he can do it with one word even as shown w/ the pride post)

that is not the way town-nacho plays

Look at these two posts intended to manipulate me using fear out of my push on nacho:

In post 1478, Nachomamma8 wrote:Mollie, Bacde, I'm not screaming at you guys for being idiots this game because you do have a point because I'm not exactly happy with my reads yet. It's not that I'm lacking motivation for this game and it isn't that I'm being useless (that's bullshit, Bacde), but I definitely am not being as aggressive and on point this game because I just don't have things worked out yet. I have a pretty good scumread in Desperado, a pretty decent town core, but I don't feel comfortable with the game to the point that I usually do. Although, Bacde:

In post 1459, Bacde wrote:if nacho flips town you are suspect #1
If I flip town, you're living in my scumlist for a while. You owe me that much.

In post 1483, Nachomamma8 wrote:Will you?
Also, why has he forgotten about this:
In post 1487, Nachomamma8 wrote:That's fucking stupid. I want you to follow my reads.
If he wants me to follow his reads, why isn't he pushing them harder? If he wants me to follow his reads, why does he keep saying to me "No you have a point I haven't been playing as well as I'd like this game"

Guys, excuses like that are scummy on their own. But when he simultaneously says that he's unhappy with his reads, but ALSO wants me to follow his reads?

Scum.

In post 1777, Bacde wrote:
In post 1478, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm not exactly happy with my reads yet.

In post 1487, Nachomamma8 wrote:That's fucking stupid. I want you to follow my reads.

In post 1478, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm not exactly happy with my reads yet.

In post 1487, Nachomamma8 wrote:That's fucking stupid. I want you to follow my reads.

In post 1478, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm not exactly happy with my reads yet.

In post 1487, Nachomamma8 wrote:That's fucking stupid. I want you to follow my reads.

In post 1478, Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm not exactly happy with my reads yet.

In post 1487, Nachomamma8 wrote:That's fucking stupid. I want you to follow my reads.
VOTE: Nacho

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2237 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 9:29 am

In post 2234, PeregrineV wrote:I will when I get to that part, but I think you would have a vested interest in understanding your wagon.

I'm actually pretty interested in hearing how you interpret my wagon. I've talked about my wagon enough in previous posts that it's sort of a waste to do it again, but I'm interested in what conclusions you reach about it.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2238 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 9:29 am

In post 2236, Bacde wrote:sorry to make you stop flying nacho, its just that you have a scum PM

I knew it wouldn't last.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2239 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 9:39 am

Bacde · Post Post #2240 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 9:42 am

if we aren't lynching nacho then we have to lynch out of this pool:

baby spice/thor/desp/AA9

no other options

pedit- WHAT THE BUTT NACHO ISNT EVEN VOTING DESP ANYMORE LYNCH THSI SCUM

PeregrineV · Post Post #2241 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 9:44 am

Ok what is eta?

I keep thinking Estimated Time of Arrival, but pretty sure it don't mean that.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2242 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 9:45 am

Edited to add.

Bacde · Post Post #2243 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 9:48 am

In post 2238, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2236, Bacde wrote:sorry to make you stop flying nacho, its just that you have a scum PM
I knew it wouldn't last.

yeah scum are good at manipulating me in most of my games tbh

but then I can reread my old posts and go "why am I thinking something different than what I argued before? these posts are awesome!"

Bacde · Post Post #2244 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 9:48 am

I'd say my biggest problem isn't finding the scum

its being manipulated by the scum after I've found them

PeregrineV · Post Post #2245 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 9:49 am

In post 2237, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2234, PeregrineV wrote:I will when I get to that part, but I think you would have a vested interest in understanding your wagon.
I'm actually pretty interested in hearing how you interpret my wagon. I've talked about my wagon enough in previous posts that it's sort of a waste to do it again, but I'm interested in what conclusions you reach about it.

How I interpret it is less important than how you do. If you are lynched and town, we have honest info. If you are not town, we have info.

It also let's me achieve dual interest in the thread, both back and front.

Bacde · Post Post #2246 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 9:56 am

hey Peregrine I'm talking to you and giving you info

ThAdmiral · Post Post #2247 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 10:49 am

Hey I'm replacing in and....

Fucking 90 pages!!?!

<<< Sorry, shoulda warned you 'bout that.

>>>

Um, it'll probably take me to the weekend to catch up. Anything really important I need to know now?

<<< Deadline is in six days, on Tuesday. >>>

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #2248 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 11:46 am

In post 2190, Cephrir wrote:I guess I should at least give you a chance. B&B, why Nero?

Because he hasn't done shit, he's been active-lurking through the game, hasn't participated meaningfully in any way with anyone or anything, and is voting us for a joke post.

mastin2 · Post Post #2249 (ISO) » Wed May 22, 2013 11:47 am

I checked--we're the third-longest D1 ever on site, and counting. Yay, us?