NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

mastin2 · Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 9:06 am

In the mean time, votecount.

Thirty-ninth Votecount

:

(

AKA, the "Mod errors keep on piling up

" votecount

)

Nachomamma8 - 7 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Slandaar, Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Baby Spice, Desperado)

Desperado - 5 (Nachomamma8, Syryana, Cephrir, Om the Destroyer, ArcAngel9)

fuzzybutternut - 2 (thezmon221, Oversoul)
Oversoul - 2 (Kublai Khan, BeautyAndTheBeast)
Red Ryu - 1 (Thor665)
ArcAngel9 - 1 (DLG)
Bacde - 1 (Bulbazak)
Om the Destroyer - 1 (fuzzybutternut)
BeautyAndTheBeast - 1 (Nero Cain)

Not Voting - 3 (Hanzo_5, EddieFenix, Amethyst Kitty)

With

24

players alive, it's

13

to lynch.

Deadline is on Monday, May 27th, @ 11:30 AM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-27 11:31:59).

Deadline is moving forward a day because that Monday is Memorial Day. New deadline is Tuesday, May 28th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-28 12:31:59).

If deadline were to hit right now, Nachomamma8 would be lynched!

At least half of the Amethyst Kitty hydra is V/LA until Tuesday, May 21st.
Somewhere along the line, fuzzybutternut's vote on Bulbazak disappeared from the official votecount, though remained in the Ghost Votecount.
Read my

That's too much black.

Spoiler: changes from last official votecount

Spoiler: Player Vote History

Spoiler: Voting History

Red Ryu · Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 9:07 am

In post 1931, Nachomamma8 wrote:How did I know he was lying as scum?

Whether you knew he was lying or not is irrelevant.

The fact is how you pushed him was not something I would see a townie do. You didn't open up to the fact if he was town or not, you stuck to tunneling him as scum and never tried to actually get a read. You made judgement without trying to verify if you were right or not. You're experienced, not a newbie, is so I know to expect you to not do things like this as town.

Red Ryu · Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 9:11 am

Khan, give me more substance than that, why are you afraid to out your reason?

Bulbazak · Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 9:15 am

In post 1976, Red Ryu wrote: The fact is how you pushed him was not something I would see a townie do. You didn't open up to the fact if he was town or not, you stuck to tunneling him as scum and never tried to actually get a read.

Why is pushing a scum read not something town would do? Wouldn't "opening up to the fact that [a strong scum read] was town" in fact weaken said scum read and, in fact, never lead to a lynch on scum ever? And how could he not have a read on Oversoul if he was pushing him as scum?

You need to work on your chainsaw skills.

ISO · Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 9:16 am

Red Ryu, how is Nacho's push on Oversoul different from Bacde's push on Macho?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 9:29 am

In post 1976, Red Ryu wrote:The fact is how you pushed him was not something I would see a townie do. You didn't open up to the fact if he was town or not, you stuck to tunneling him as scum and never tried to actually get a read. You made judgement without trying to verify if you were right or not. You're experienced, not a newbie, is so I know to expect you to not do things like this as town.

Why do you say that I never tried to actually get a read?
I actually stopped aggressively pushing Oversoul in something like #241, then all additional attacks on him came from people questioned him. In #836, I backed the fuck off him and started spreading my net a LOT more, argued with Nero Cain some... but all in all, didn't push Oversoul in a way that certainly didn't demonstrate that I didn't care about a read on him. What about my push made it where you thought that I was just tunneling?

mastin2 · Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 9:45 am

<<<

Nachomamma8

, close to being the sacrifice chosen for the first day of fighting back, decides he has nothing to lose, so he begins to sing.

And unlike the discordant screeches butchering the name of music which come from a certain heavenly figure...

...Nacho, as it turns out, has a beautiful singing voice. (He can also dance! And does so as he sings.)

Angelic, even, to the point where it brings everyone to tears...tears of joy.

DLG

is so enthralled that he excuses himself, and eventually decides that he's been left feeling TOO much at peace with himself. His drive for violence gone, he decides he has no place among the group and leaves smoothly, allowing for

PeregrineV

to take his place.

Hanzo_5

, who had promised to keep up, finds himself struggling to concentrate. The words keep on lingering in his mind, that voice ever-present.

The voice of pure talent. And this leaves Hanzo unable to fulfill his promise, as the distraction gets continuously worse and worse. He keeps on thinking to himself, over and over again, about it, and not on the words of the others, so he slowly slips away, dangerously close to sharing ActionDan's fate.

CrashTextDummie

similarly is put to sleep by his good friend Nacho's voice, taking a nap as he is serenaded.

...The gathered citizens still don't let Nacho off the hook, though.

"Damn,"

Bacde

speaks up. "You're actually making me feel bad about trying to lynch you." >>>

(Yes, I used flavor which relies on posts which are chronologically after this one. Dealwithit.)

<<< PeregrineV replaces DLG effective upon his posting.
Hanzo_5 was prodded Saturday, and has until tomorrow to post or be replaced.
CrashTextDummie has been prodded. >>>

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 9:46 am

Welcome PV

Nero Cain · Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 9:46 am

Great. A lurker!!!

v/la till Thursday

<<< Noted.
Also, double post deleted. >>>

PeregrineV · Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 9:52 am

Hey guys! Replacing DLG. Guess I'll go read 80 pages.

Unvote.

PeregrineV · Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 9:53 am

In post 1982, ArcAngel9 wrote:Welcome PV

Thanks!

In post 1983, Nero Cain wrote:Great. A lurker!!!

v/la till Thursday

<<< Noted.
Also, double post deleted. >>>

Where?

thezmon221 · Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:18 am

Welcome PV.

AA, no response to my previous post? Kind of expected you to have done so, even if it it wasn't all inherently a question. >.>

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:19 am

In post 1983, Nero Cain wrote:Great. A lurker!!!

v/la till Thursday

<<< Noted.
Also, double post deleted. >>>

HALLELUJAH

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:25 am

In post 1986, thezmon221 wrote:Welcome PV.

AA, no response to my previous post? Kind of expected you to have done so, even if it it wasn't all inherently a question. >.>

i have read it. I am still in office and working now.. no time for long replies. will do when i get the chance.

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:25 am

Don't like that Nacho took the emphasis out of the quote here. I see no town motivation for doing so, and see no way it could have happened unintentionally. This was a scum tactic through-and-through. Back on Nacho.

VOTE: Nacho

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:27 am

^ how confident are you that Nacho is scum?
What do you think of Despo?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:27 am

In post 1989, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Don't like that Nacho took the emphasis out of the quote here. I see no town motivation for doing so, and see no way it could have happened unintentionally. This was a scum tactic through-and-through. Back on Nacho.

VOTE: Nacho

Tell me what emphasis I took out.

ISO · Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:32 am

You de-bolded one word. Obvious scum tactic right there.

thezmon221 · Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:36 am

In post 1992, Cephrir wrote:You de-bolded one word. Obvious scum tactic right there.

I mean, what's the point of debolding the word unless you're hiding something you can't defend? Despo caught him there and then he went and ignored it because he knew it was true...

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:45 am

In post 1950, Desperado wrote:So your only response is semantics? You said what you said, and I can only assume that you meant it to. This is backtracking, now that I caught you in a lie
again
. About the same thing! It's also funny that you don't actually address the fact that you just lied again.

Note the bolded. Note where it is located in the text.

In post 1951, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1950, Desperado wrote:So your only response is semantics? You said what you said, and I can only assume that you meant it to. This is backtracking, now that I caught you in a lie again. About the same thing! It's also funny that you don't actually address the fact that you just lied again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exaggeration
Since you like wikipedia articles so much.

Note the lack of bold. Note that you retained the quote tag as if you hit the quote button. Note that the text on either side of the bolded is unchanged.

You

deliberately

removed the bold from the word again.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:46 am

Majiffy. What I want you to do is highlight your last sentence in your most recent quote. Then I want you to press the quote button, and press submit. Don't press preview, don't look at the BBCode, don't do any of that shit. Just press submit.

Syryana · Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:49 am

All of you still on the Nacho wagon should be ashamed of yourselves. Make up for it by voting Desp.

In post 1927, Red Ryu wrote:Elaborate on this post.

Also why you responded to these specific people?

They were the people whose names popped into my head at that specific time.

No elaboration required. Just unvote Nacho and vote Desp.

In post 1956, ArcAngel9 wrote:So basically your case on me is "META", right?
And anyone who played with me on MS can you tell that "Tenemants" is not a game that tells what kind of player I am. How about you check over few town games ( since i have plently lying around) and come back to me if you really feel that my play reperestns a scum play.

You have already made an obvious statment that I carry OMGUS reputation but this is something i can see that you would be doing it as scum, well which is what exactly you did in Tenemants where you were scum and also you did in another on-going game, and you were scum again(dead one). so tell me How is case is any different to the read you just stated about me?

Yet you are calling it as "First attack" and what I am doing to do is OMGUS? Can you ever get better, becuase this is pathetic reason to blame anyone. You said that i sucked as town in Tenemants. Well, then you haven't seen my actual town play. In case if you didn't notice, this is how it looks...

People really love breaking that ongoing rule...

Just because I'm feeling nice today, I will explain to you what my take on meta is. I'm not one of those people who will trawl through dozens of games to figure out what people may or may not do as a given alignment. My "meta" as it were revolves around actually

playing

with people. My experiences with them make up my opinion of their playstyle.

That being said, my experiences thus far have shown that: you are a lurker, you love to OMGUS people, your deductive reasoning leaves worlds to be desired and you put in no particular effort into a game until someone shoves a large burning rod up your ass. Three of these qualities are present in this game. One is not. It is the plain and simple fact that you are putting so much effort into "reads" and "cases" together (they still suck, but A+ for effort) that makes me think you're scum. There are also plenty of other scum-motivated things in your ISO, but I'm not bothering to get into that because I'm not interested in seeing a lynch on you today anymore.

In the timeless words of a great and revered man: "Blow it out your ass."

Peditx4: A bolded word?! Are we fucking serious here?!?!? No, just no. And #1993 is opportunistic as fuck.

BeautyAndTheBeast · Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:49 am

In post 1990, ArcAngel9 wrote:^ how confident are you that Nacho is scum?
What do you think of Despo?

I have issues with Despo's "oh I'm so happy it's a 1v1 against me and Nacho, the wagons are really diving people!". Looks like a possible Nacho teammate that wants to "clear" himself on a Nacho scumflip, or visa-versa, clearing Nacho if Despo flips scum.

I'll have to take a look at their argument thus far in the event of a flip and see if it looks town/scum or scum/scum.

Bulbazak · Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:49 am

In post 1994, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:You deliberately removed the bold from the word again.

@Nacho: I see what you're getting at...

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:50 am

In post 1995, Nachomamma8 wrote:Majiffy. What I want you to do is highlight your last sentence in your most recent quote. Then I want you to press the quote button, and press submit. Don't press preview, don't look at the BBCode, don't do any of that shit. Just press submit.

MAJIFFY