NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)


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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 3:31 am

Post by Nachomamma8 »

Town, for once.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten

-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 3:37 am

Post by BeautyAndTheBeast »

really?

dammit

okay
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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:12 am

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In post 1911, Syryana wrote:Moar votes on Desp!

BabySpice, stop making poetry and vote Desp.

Bacde, stop tunneling townies and vote Desp. That goes for the rest of you peeps on the Nacho wagon too.

Cephrir... eh, you do whatever you're doing, we'll lynch you tomorrow. Though if you want to be pro-town and bus your bud, we'd be all for that.

Thor, Slandaar, Disney hydra! Stop circle jerking and vote Desp!
Elaborate on this post.

Also why you responded to these specific people?
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:13 am

Post by Bacde »

In post 1921, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1898, Red Ryu wrote:Back from V/LA, Thor is derping hard.

We need to stop distracting from the Nacho wagon.

BB convince me Thor is scum over dumb, I still remain that he is dumb town.

I'll click my ISO button to see where I left off.

Bacde you still my Bro?
Are you still pushing me because my Oversoul push was too aggressive?
Uh, that point was actually really valid

and it wasn't too aggressive, it was as though you pushed the OS wagon so you could ignore the rest of the town
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:14 am

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Thanks for quoting what he missed, Bacde.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten

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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:25 am

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In post 1921, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1898, Red Ryu wrote:Back from V/LA, Thor is derping hard.

We need to stop distracting from the Nacho wagon.

BB convince me Thor is scum over dumb, I still remain that he is dumb town.

I'll click my ISO button to see where I left off.

Bacde you still my Bro?
Are you still pushing me because my Oversoul push was too aggressive?
Yes, still think you are scum. You tunneled him on a null tell and didn't have the mindset a townie would. I haven't read everything from where I left off but my vote and stance remains.
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:30 am

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How did I know he was lying as scum?
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:30 am

Post by mastin2 »

Votecount here as soon as possible.

<<< In addition to the obvious Bacde warning delivered, Majiffy (BeautyAndTheBeast) receives a warning for
post 1718
, which violates the spirit of the "don't talk in moderator colors" rule. >>>


Additionally, a change has been made to the opening post:
!
denotes a warning. Three is automatic replacement, as is two of the same offense.
Please note that though I am a lenient mod, this doesn't mean I'll allow you to get by with rules lawyering crap; I can deliver a more severe punishment if I deem it fitting, so don't assume you'll get a warning first and that you can get away with violating the rules--you can't.

Thirty-eighth Votecount
:
(
AKA, the "Read this post!" votecount
)


Nachomamma8 - 7 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Slandaar, Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Baby Spice, Desperado)

Desperado - 4 (Nachomamma8, Syryana, Cephrir, Om the Destroyer)

fuzzybutternut - 2 (thezmon221, Oversoul)
Oversoul - 2 (Kublai Khan, BeautyAndTheBeast)
Red Ryu - 2 (ArcAngel9, Thor665)
ArcAngel9 - 1 (DLG)
Bacde - 1 (Bulbazak)
Om the Destroyer - 1 (fuzzybutternut)
BeautyAndTheBeast - 1 (Nero Cain)

Not Voting - 3 (Hanzo_5, EddieFenix, Amethyst Kitty)

With
24
players alive, it's
13
to lynch.

Deadline is on Monday, May 27th, @ 11:30 AM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-27 11:31:59).

Deadline is moving forward a day because that Monday is Memorial Day. New deadline is Tuesday, May 28th, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-28 12:31:59).


At least half of the Amethyst Kitty hydra is V/LA until Tuesday, May 21st.
Somewhere along the line, fuzzybutternut's vote on Bulbazak disappeared from the official votecount, though remained in the Ghost Votecount.
Now seeking a DLG replacement.


That's a lot of black. :P


Spoiler: changes from last official votecount
Nachomamma8 - 7 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Slandaar, Seanald, CrashTextDummie,
Om the Destroyer
,
Baby Spice
,
Nachomamma8
)
fuzzybutternut - 2 (thezmon221,
Cephrir
, Oversoul)
Red Ryu - 2 (ArcAngel9, Thor665)
BeautyAndTheBeast - 1 (Nero Cain)
Bacde - 1 (Bulbazak)
ArcAngel9 - 1 (DLG,
Desperado
)
Desperado - 4 (Nachomamma8, Syryana,
Cephrir
,
Om the Destroyer
)
Om the Destroyer - 1 (fuzzybutternut)
Oversoul - 2 (Kublai Khan, BeautyAndThebeast)

Not Voting - 3 (Hanzo_5, EddieFenix, Amethyst Kitty)


Spoiler: Player Vote History
Mac | thezmon221: Red Ryu | fuzzybutternut
CrashTextDummie: Oversoul->DLG->Nachomamma8
Cephrir: Oversoul->BeautyAndTheBeast->Unvote->fuzzybutternut->Desperado
Nachomamma8: Oversoul->Desperado
DLG: ArcAngel9
Nero Cain: Oversoul->EddieFenix->Oversoul->Nachomamma8->BeautyAndTheBeast
Bacde: Nachomamma8->BeautyAndTheBeast->EddieFenix->Nachomamma8
EddieFenix: BeautyAndTheBeast->Bulbazak->Nachomamma8->Unvote
Bulbazak: Oversoul->Om the Destroyer->Red Ryu->Bacde
Thor665: Red Ryu->BeautyAndTheBeast->Red Ryu
Red Ryu: Nachomamma8
Syryana: Red Ryu->ArcAngel9->Desperado
Desperado: DLG->Nachomamma8->ArcAngel9->Nachomamma8
Baby Spice: Red Ryu->Cephrir->Nachomamma8
Slandaar: Nachomamma8
Oversoul: Red Ryu->Nachomamma8->fuzzybutternut
Seanald: Nachomamma8
ActionDan
Hanzo_5:
fuzzybutternut: Oversoul->Cephrir->Bulbazak->Om the Desroyer
Kublai Khan: BeautyAndTheBeast->Red Ryu->Oversoul
Amethyst Kitty: Nachomamma8->Cephrir->Nachomamma8->Unvote
BeautyAndTheBeast: Cephrir->Nachomamma8->Unvote->Cephrir->Nachomamma8->Unvote->Cephrir->Nachomamma8->Cephrir->Nachomamma8->Unvote->Oversoul
Om the Destroyer: Red Ryu->BeautyAndTheBeast->Bulbazak->Bacde->Bulbazak->Bacde->Nachomamma8->Desperado
ArcAngel9: Red Ryu


Spoiler: Voting History
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 12:43p,
Oversoul
votes
Red Ryu
in post 202.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 12:47p,
Nachomamma8
votes
Oversoul
in post 206.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 01:08p,
CrashTextDummie
votes
Oversoul
in post 211.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 01:32p,
Nero Cain
votes
Oversoul
in post 218.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 01:37p,
Cephrir
votes
Oversoul
in post 219.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 02:45p,
Bulbazak
votes
Oversoul
in post 237.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 02:56p,
Om the Destroyer
votes
Red Ryu
in post 250.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 04:58p,
BeautyAndTheBeast
votes
Cephrir
in post 301.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 05:38p,
Om the Destroyer
unvotes
Red Ryu
and votes
BeautyAndTheBeast
in post 323.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 05:42p,
Cephrir
unvotes
Oversoul
and votes
BeautyAndTheBeast
in post 327.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 07:04p,
fuzzybutternut
votes
Oversoul
in post 361.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 07:42p,
Bacde
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 388.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 08:14p,
Bacde
votes
BeautyAndTheBeast
in post 406.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 08:36p,
fuzzybutternut
votes
Cephrir
in post 414.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 08:43p,
EddieFenix
votes
BeautyAndTheBeast
in post 415.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 08:58p,
Nero Cain
votes
EddieFenix
in post 418.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 09:08p,
Red Ryu
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 423.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 09:13p,
Bacde
votes
EddieFenix
in post 427.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 09:55p,
Nero Cain
votes
Oversoul
in post 564.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 09:23a,
DLG
votes
ArcAngel9
in post 494.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 06:14p,
Bacde
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 587.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 08:41p,
Thor665
votes
Red Ryu
in post 600.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 09:12p,
Nero Cain
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 614.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 09:26p,
BeautyAndTheBeast
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 620.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 09:43p,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 626.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 10:19p,
BeautyAndTheBeast
unvotes
Nachomamma8
in post 631.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 11:09p,
BeautyAndTheBeast
votes
Cephrir
in post 637.
On Wed, May 5/08/13 @ 00:46a,
Om the Destroyer
votes
Bulbazak
in post 654.
On Wed, May 5/08/13 @ 00:58a,
Bulbazak
votes
Om the destroyer
in post 657.
On Wed, May 5/08/13 @ 04:56p,
fuzzybutternut
votes
Bulbazak
in post 734.
On Wed, May 5/08/13 @ 05:57p,
Baby Spice
votes
Red Ryu
in post 749.
On Wed, May 5/08/13 @ 07:02p,
Desperado
votes
DLG
in post 765.
On Thu, May 5/09/13 @ 12:31p,
BeautyAndTheBeast
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 875.
On Thu, May 5/09/13 @ 01:12p,
EddieFenix
unvotes
BeautyAndTheBeast
and votes
Bulbazak
in post 885.
On Thu, May 5/09/13 @ 04:33p,
Mac
votes
Red Ryu
in post 915.
On Thu, May 5/09/13 @ 07:49p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
Om the Destroyer
and votes
Red Ryu
in post 938.
On Fri, May 5/10/13 @ 00:27p,
CrashTextDummie
votes
DLG
in post 958.
On Fri, May 5/10/13 @ 05:39p,
Syryana
votes
Red Ryu
in post 968.
On Fri, May 5/10/13 @ 02:25p,
Slandaar
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 1008.
On Sat, May 5/11/13 @ 11:55a,
Desperado
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 1102.
On Sat, May 5/11/13 @ 03:15p,
EddieFenix
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 1123.
On Sat, May 5/11/13 @ 09:47p,
BeautyAndTheBeast
unvotes
Nachomamma8
in post 1186.
On Sun, May 5/12/13 @ 06:19a,
BeautyAndTheBeast
votes
Cephrir
in post 1196.
On Sun, May 5/12/13 @ 06:45a,
Baby Spice
votes
Cephrir
in post 1197.
On Mon, May 5/13/13 @ 00:47a,
Nachomamma8
votes
Desperado
in post 1265.
On Mon, May 5/13/13 @ 07:53a,
Cephrir
unvotes
BeautyAndTheBeast
in post 1275.
On Mon, May 5/13/13 @ 09:38a,
EddieFenix
unvotes
Nachomamma8
in pst 1289.
On Mon, May 5/13/13 @ 07:37p,
BeautyAndTheBeast
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 1359.
On Mon, May 5/13/13 @ 10:54p,
Kublai Khan
votes
BeautyAndTheBeast
in post 1379.
On Tue, May 5/14/13 @ 00:29a,
Om the Destroyer
votes
Bacde
in post 1382.
On Tue, May 5/14/13 @ 03:00p,
thezmon221
votes
fuzzybutternut
in post 1410.
On Tue, May 5/14/13 @ 03:10p,
Cephrir
votes
fuzzybutternut
in post 1416.
On Tue, May 5/14/13 @ 06:43p,
Om the Destroyer
unvotes
Bacde
and votes
Bulbazak
in post 1454.
On Tue, May 5/14/13 @ 06:43p,
Om the Destroyer
votes
Bacde
in post 1455.
On Tue, May 5/14/13 @ 08:43p,
Thor665
unvotes
Red Ryu
and votes
BeautyAndTheBeast
in post 1467.
On Tue, May 5/14/13 @ 08:56p,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Cephrir
in post 1468.
On Tue, May 5/14/13 @ 09:34p,
BeautyAndTheBeast
votes
Cephrir
in post 1471.
On Wed, May 5/15/13 @ 10:19p,
Seanald
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 1545.
On Thu, May 5/16/13 @ 10:48a,
Oversoul
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 1575.
On Thu, May 5/16/13 @ 05:22p,
CrashTextDummie
unvotes
DLG
and votes
Nachomamma8
in post 1602.
On Thu, May 5/16/13 @ 05:24p,
BeautyAndTheBeast
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 1603.
On Thu, May 5/16/13 @ 05:41p,
Bulbazak
unvotes
Red Ryu
and votes
Bacde
in post 1606.
On Thu, May 5/16/13 @ 05:58p,
ArcAngel9
votes
Red Ryu
in post 1610.
On Thu, May 5/16/13 @ 07:37p,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 1617.
On Fri, May 5/17/13 @ 03:01a,
BeautyAndTheBeast
unvotes
Nachomamma8
in post 1631.
On Fri, May 5/17/13 @ 10:45a,
Oversoul
votes
fuzzybutternut
in post 1655.
On Sat, May 5/18/13 @ 01:44p,
Syryana
votes
ArcAngel9
in post 1752.
On Sat, May 5/18/13 @ 01:57p,
Desperado
unvotes
Nachomamma8
and votes
ArcAngel9
in post 1754.
On Sat, May 5/18/13 @ 05:05p,
Fuzzybutternut
votes
Om the Destroyer
in post 1771.
On Sat, May 5/18/13 @ 05:59p,
Om the Destroyer
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 1778.
On Sat, May 5/18/13 @ 07:17p,
Amethyst Kitty
unvotes
Nachomamma8
in post 1784.
On Sat, May 5/18/13 @ 08:45p,
Baby Spice
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 1787.
On Sat, May 5/18/13 @ 10:18p,
Kublai Khan
votes
Red Ryu
in post 1790.
On Sun, May 5/19/13 @ 07:39a,
Kublai Khan
votes
Oversoul
in post 1810.
On Sun, May 5/19/13 @ 08:15a,
BeautyAndTheBeast
votes
Oversoul
in post 1815.
On Sun, May 5/19/13 @ 11:34a,
Thor665
unvotes
BeautyAndTheBeast
and votes
Red Ryu
in post 1837.
On Sun, May 5/19/13 @ 01:04p,
Nero Cain
votes
BeautyAndTheBeast
in post 1855.
On Sun, May 5/19/13 @ 04:33p,
Syryana
votes
Desperado
in post 1870.
On Sun, May 5/19/13 @ 06:43p,
Cephrir
votes
Desperado
in post 1881.
On Sun, May 5/19/13 @ 11:59p,
Om the Destroyer
votes
Desperado
in post 1906.
On Mon, May 5/20/13 @ 01:18a,
Desperado
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 1914.



AngryPidgeon has a votecount on page 70. Page 72, page 73, page 74, and page 75 all contain mod-edited votecounts, because you guys changed votes a lot over the weekend while also talking a fair bit. :P

AP has a second votecount on page 76, originally empty but now filled by me.
There is a mod-edited votecount on page 77 as well.

All of them quoted below.

Spoiler: Post 1738
Thirty-sixth Votecount
:
(
AKA, the "Save all the voting for weekdays so mastin gets to process them :P" votecount
)

No changes on this VC as it turns out.

Nachomamma8 - 8 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Nero Cain, Slandaar, Desperado, Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Amethyst Kitty)

fuzzybutternut - 3 (thezmon221, Cephrir, Oversoul)

Bacde - 2 (Om the Destroyer, Bulbazak)
BeautyAndTheBeast - 2 (Kublai Khan, Thor665)
Red Ryu - 2 (Syryana, ArcAngel9)
Cephrir - 1 (Baby Spice)
ArcAngel9 - 1 (DLG)
Desperado - 1 (Nachomamma8)

Not Voting - 3 (Hanzo_5, EddieFenix, BeautyAndTheBeast)

With
24
players alive, it's
13
to lynch.

Deadline is on Monday, May 27th, @ 11:30 AM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-27 11:31:59).

Red Ryu is V/LA from Friday, May 17th until Monday, May 20th.
At least half of the Amethyst Kitty hudra is V/LA until Tuesday, May 21st.
Spoiler: Post 1775
Nachomamma8 - 7 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Nero Cain, Slandaar, Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Amethyst Kitty)

fuzzybutternut - 3 (thezmon221, Cephrir, Oversoul)

ArcAngel9 - 3 (DLG, Syryana, Desperado)
Bacde - 2 (Om the Destroyer, Bulbazak)
BeautyAndTheBeast - 2 (Kublai Khan, Thor665)
Red Ryu - 1 (ArcAngel9)
Cephrir - 1 (Baby Spice)
Desperado - 1 (Nachomamma8)
Om the Destroyer - 1 (fuzzybutternut)

Not Voting - 3 (Hanzo_5, EddieFenix, BeautyAndTheBeast)

With
24
players alive, it's
13
to lynch.

Deadline is on Monday, May 27th, @ 11:30 AM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-27 11:31:59).

Red Ryu is V/LA from Friday, May 17th until Monday, May 20th.
At least half of the Amethyst Kitty hydra is V/LA until Tuesday, May 21st.
Spoiler: Post 1800
Nachomamma8 - 8 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Nero Cain, Slandaar, Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Om the Destroyer, Baby Spice)

fuzzybutternut - 3 (thezmon221, Cephrir, Oversoul)

ArcAngel9 - 3 (DLG, Syryana, Desperado)
Red Ryu - 2 (ArcAngel9, Kublai Khan)
BeautyAndTheBeast - 1 (Thor665)
Bacde - 1 (Bulbazak)
Desperado - 1 (Nachomamma8)
Om the Destroyer - 1 (fuzzybutternut)

Not Voting - 4 (Hanzo_5, EddieFenix, BeautyAndTheBeast, Amethyst Kitty)

With
24
players alive, it's
13
to lynch.

Deadline is on Monday, May 27th, @ 11:30 AM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-27 11:31:59).

Red Ryu is V/LA from Friday, May 17th until Monday, May 20th.
At least half of the Amethyst Kitty hydra is V/LA until Tuesday, May 21st.
Spoiler: Post 1825
Nachomamma8 - 8 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Nero Cain, Slandaar, Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Om the Destroyer, Baby Spice)

fuzzybutternut - 3 (thezmon221, Cephrir, Oversoul)

ArcAngel9 - 3 (DLG, Syryana, Desperado)
Oversoul - 2 (Kublai Khan, BeautyAndTheBeast)
Red Ryu - 1 (ArcAngel9)
BeautyAndTheBeast - 1 (Thor665)
Bacde - 1 (Bulbazak)
Desperado - 1 (Nachomamma8)
Om the Destroyer - 1 (fuzzybutternut)

Not Voting - 3 (Hanzo_5, EddieFenix, Amethyst Kitty)

With
24
players alive, it's
13
to lynch.

Deadline is on Monday, May 27th, @ 11:30 AM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-27 11:31:59).

Red Ryu is V/LA from Friday, May 17th until Monday, May 20th.
At least half of the Amethyst Kitty hydra is V/LA until Tuesday, May 21st.
Spoiler: Post 1850
Nachomamma8 - 8 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Nero Cain, Slandaar, Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Om the Destroyer, Baby Spice)

fuzzybutternut - 3 (thezmon221, Cephrir, Oversoul)

ArcAngel9 - 3 (DLG, Syryana, Desperado)
Oversoul - 2 (Kublai Khan, BeautyAndTheBeast)
Red Ryu - 2 (ArcAngel9, Thor665)
Bacde - 1 (Bulbazak)
Desperado - 1 (Nachomamma8)
Om the Destroyer - 1 (fuzzybutternut)

Not Voting - 3 (Hanzo_5, EddieFenix, Amethyst Kitty)

With
24
players alive, it's
13
to lynch.
Spoiler: Post 1875
Thirty-seventh Votecount
:
(
AKA, the "You had to tempt fate with the comment on voting, didn't ya?!?" votecount
)


Nachomamma8 - 7 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Slandaar, Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Om the Destroyer, Baby Spice)

fuzzybutternut - 3 (thezmon221, Cephrir, Oversoul)

ArcAngel9 - 2 (DLG, Desperado)
Oversoul - 2 (Kublai Khan, BeautyAndTheBeast)
Red Ryu - 2 (ArcAngel9, Thor665)
Desperado - 2 (Nachomamma8, Syryana)
Bacde - 1 (Bulbazak)
Om the Destroyer - 1 (fuzzybutternut)
BeautyAndTheBeast - 1 (Nero Cain)

Not Voting - 3 (Hanzo_5, EddieFenix, Amethyst Kitty)

With
24
players alive, it's
13
to lynch.

Deadline is on Monday, May 27th, @ 11:30 AM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-27 11:31:59).

Red Ryu is V/LA from Friday, May 17th until Monday, May 20th.
At least half of the Amethyst Kitty hydra is V/LA until Tuesday, May 21st.
Spoiler: Post 1900
Nachomamma8 - 7 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Slandaar, Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Om the Destroyer, Baby Spice)

Desperado - 3 (Nachomamma8, Syryana, Cephrir)

fuzzybutternut - 2 (thezmon221, Oversoul)
ArcAngel9 - 2 (DLG, Desperado)
Oversoul - 2 (Kublai Khan, BeautyAndTheBeast)
Red Ryu - 2 (ArcAngel9, Thor665)
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Om the Destroyer - 1 (fuzzybutternut)
BeautyAndTheBeast - 1 (Nero Cain)

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Deadline is on Monday, May 27th, @ 11:30 AM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-27 11:31:59).

At least half of the Amethyst Kitty hydra is V/LA until Tuesday, May 21st.
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:31 am

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Also, I want you to tell me if you think how my push on HD in this game was different from my push on Oversoul in this one.
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:37 am

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In post 1931, Nachomamma8 wrote:How did I know he was lying as scum?
How does knowing that he was lying in any way make you town?
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:39 am

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It doesn't, but the premise of the argument was that there was NO WAY I could know that Oversoul was lying, and I refused to believe that he was either telling the truth (true) or that he was lying town (false, and the reason I kept pushing him regardless was actually explained earlier in the thread).
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:49 am

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In post 1935, Nachomamma8 wrote:It doesn't, but the premise of the argument was that there was NO WAY I could know that Oversoul was lying, and I refused to believe that he was either telling the truth (true) or that he was lying town (false, and the reason I kept pushing him regardless was actually explained earlier in the thread).
who has this premise to their argument?

You are making really solid arguments against points no one is making
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:52 am

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In post 972, Red Ryu wrote:But he tried to push OS on this as being scummy, there was no reason to consider him scummy for that action, he deliberately refused to think OS was town doing that lying or telling the truth.
Please stop interrupting.
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:54 am

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please be lynched by tomorrow

that quote is thousands of posts old, and doesn't even postulate the premise that you say it does
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 4:56 am

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The quote is old because Red Ryu's been on V/LA, and I'd like to see him talk about the argument now that he's back and I have a better idea of what the scumteam should look like. What's the difference between the quote and what I said?
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 5:01 am

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In post 1935, Nachomamma8 wrote:It doesn't, but the premise of the argument was that there was NO WAY I could know that Oversoul was lying, and I refused to believe that he was either telling the truth (true) or that he was lying town (false, and the reason I kept pushing him regardless was actually explained earlier in the thread).
Premise: There is NO WAY that you could have known that OS was lying
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In post 972, Red Ryu wrote:But he tried to push OS on this as being scummy, there was no reason to consider him scummy for that action, he deliberately refused to think OS was town doing that lying or telling the truth.
Please stop interrupting.
Premise: There was no reason to consider the fakeclaim as scummy

They are quite different and I'm surprised you need me to spell this out for you (actually I'm not since you are scum)

Its funny to me how you are still attempting to undermine me and my case with "please stop interrupting" as though I'm a child or something? Get lynched.
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 5:05 am

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NO WAY I could have known that OS was lying, AND I refused to believe that he was either telling the truth or he was lying town
There was no way to consider the claim scummy (as in I didn't know he was lying), I refused to believe that he was either lying town or telling the truth

I am telling you to stop interrupting because I am trying to read Ryu, and I really would rather not deal with you when all that you've been posting for the longest time was scumscumscumscumscum. You were right that I was playing off. You were right that I was playing more passively than usual. Now I've stepped it the fuck up to a pretty dramatic point, but still with everything that I post it's scumscumscumscumscum. It shouldn't come to a surprise to you that I'm "attempting to undermine you" (actually, I'm trying the best I can to ignore you) because if you were in my position at this point you would have lost your patience a hell of a lot earlier than I have.
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 5:10 am

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In post 1920, Nachomamma8 wrote:Yes, I did completely change what I said originally. What happens when I engage people is I attack them based on things that I don't like in their play, and then my read changes (either gets stronger or gets weaker) based on their responses. In this case, they got stronger. The situation of me calling you out for not scumhunting elsewhere is an observation that isn't necessarily indicative of you immediately being scum since you might just be a tunneley player, but the fact that you immediately adjusted your play after I called you out on that point told me I struck a chord.
Your ability to misread what I say is pretty amazing. When I said you "completely changed what you said" I was referring to, for example, your stance on CTD, where you first said his case on DLG had absolutely nothing to do with your townread on him, but then later you said you were townreading him because of the way he was pushing his case as opposed to me. And can you show me where you called me out for not scumhunting? I don't remember that being a part of your case at any point. Or maybe where I "immediately adjusted my play?" Because that's new too.

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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 5:15 am

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In post 1941, Nachomamma8 wrote:I am telling you to stop interrupting because I am trying to read Ryu, and I really would rather not deal with you when all that you've been posting for the longest time was scumscumscumscumscum. You were right that I was playing off. You were right that I was playing more passively than usual. Now I've stepped it the fuck up to a pretty dramatic point, but still with everything that I post it's scumscumscumscumscum. It shouldn't come to a surprise to you that I'm "attempting to undermine you" (actually, I'm trying the best I can to ignore you) because if you were in my position at this point you would have lost your patience a hell of a lot earlier than I have.
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 5:16 am

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What I want to know is, why you don't feel like the nacho I love?
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 5:26 am

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In post 1942, Desperado wrote:Your ability to misread what I say is pretty amazing. When I said you "completely changed what you said" I was referring to, for example, your stance on CTD, where you first said his case on DLG had absolutely nothing to do with your townread on him, but then later you said you were townreading him because of the way he was pushing his case as opposed to me. And can you show me where you called me out for not scumhunting? I don't remember that being a part of your case at any point. Or maybe where I "immediately adjusted my play?" Because that's new too.

PEdit: This is you stepping it up? Continually misreading other people's posts and resorting to just making shit up when it suits you?
I never said that I was townreading him because of how he was pushing his case as opposed to you.
In post 1668, Nachomamma8 wrote:You took one of the last two sentences that are not the essence of the case at all. You also took what was a very vague statement and railroaded it into "CTD's case on DLG", which, again, was not what I said.
You're still doing this, by the way.
In post 1942, Desperado wrote:And can you show me where you called me out for not scumhunting?
That refers to you interacting almost exclusively with me.
In post 1942, Desperado wrote:Or maybe where I "immediately adjusted my play?" Because that's new too.
That refers to the AA9 vote. Could you also explain your thought process behind that a bit more because I still don't understand it.
In post 1942, Desperado wrote:PEdit: This is you stepping it up? Continually misreading other people's posts and resorting to just making shit up when it suits you?
In post 1942, Desperado wrote:PEdit: This is you stepping it up? Continually misreading other people's posts and resorting to just making shit up when it suits you?
Who else have I misrepped? Where else have a made up shit where it's suited me?
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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 5:28 am

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In post 1944, Bacde wrote:What I want to know is, why you don't feel like the nacho I love?
You've been pushing me for what, two weeks? I don't really think that you're suddenly going to have a revelation and be like "oh wait this is town nacho".
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 5:30 am

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In post 1640, Nachomamma8 wrote:It wasn't his case on DLG alone. He's pushed DLG in a way that's better than the way you pushed it. Reads are much more than one case. Stop asking these questions because they are scummy as hell.
I have never been interacting exclusively with you, either before or after my vote. There was a two day period (on a weekend IIRC) where I did not pust much (the 50/50 you and Cephrir pointed out earlier). And me moving my vote is an adjustment of my play? Go into more detail on that.

You've been interpreting my posts in whatever way you please, whether what you think I said is what I actually said or not, since your big reads catchup post.
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 5:35 am

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In post 1947, Desperado wrote:I have never been interacting exclusively with you, either before or after my vote. There was a two day period (on a weekend IIRC) where I did not pust much (the 50/50 you and Cephrir pointed out earlier).
And that's the period I was talking about because it just happened to be the time when I was initially pushing the case on you.
In post 1947, Desperado wrote:And me moving my vote is an adjustment of my play? Go into more detail on that.
You interacting with me almost exclusively, then you voting ArcAngel and pushing her.

You are right that I mentioned DLG was a part of my case. You are correct that I used the words "excusively" when that word was too strong, and that I said "nothing to do with it" when it should mean "little to do with it". But the points that I'm making, that no, CTD's case on DLG wasn't a significant part of my reads, and no, you weren't exclusively focusing on me put you sure weren't looking elsewhere in any significant way.
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2013 5:38 am

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With respect to 'the logic for voting AA9' I meant how you are voting her even though Nacho has more votes and was a better suspicion. That doesn't make sense. It does smack of looking for something else to go after because Nacho pointed out you were ignoring the rest of the game.

Since you seem to still be missing this point, I'll spell it out for you. 'Confirmation bias' implies that the person in question honestly believes what they are saying, and they are therefore town.

If you read my post carefully, you'll see that I wasn't criticizing the complaint about having your words twisted (though I don't feel like that is actually happening by the way), but rather the way you did it.
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