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Post Post #1476 (isolation #200) » Tue May 14, 2013 5:29 pm

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In post 1473, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1471, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Thor, I'm town. Vote Cephrir or Nacho.
What do you think of Mollie's recent posts?
I don't know, is she still arguing dumb things? I stopped paying attention to what was going on with her half about 10 pages ago.
In post 1475, thezmon221 wrote:I personally don't have much experience with playing as a hydra, but shouldn't you guys like... be on the same page? Seems kind of strange you would go out and have a little root of confusion emitted there.
I've never been in a hydra where we didn't disagree on more things than we agree on.
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Post Post #1480 (isolation #201) » Tue May 14, 2013 6:10 pm

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In post 1479, Kublai Khan wrote:No, town strategy isn't to survive, it's to find and lynch scum before they out-number town.
Being unlynchable as town is just as effective as finding scum in the early game. And, for the most part, generally more accurate - I can be certain of my own alignment. I may read others wrong. I have the stronger position here; I suggest you check yourself before you wreck yourself.
In post 1479, Kublai Khan wrote:I'm still reading, but so far the only people you've called scum are the ones who dared question your questionable play and/or called you scum. Your "attacks" have been strictly retaliatory, which means you aren't attempting to garner reactions.
Most of those "questioning [of my] questionable play" was retaliatory to my reads on
them
. You've got your history a little backwards.

And while you're at it; why don't you explain what is so questionable about my play?
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Post Post #1528 (isolation #202) » Wed May 15, 2013 11:53 am

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In post 1481, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1480, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 1479, Kublai Khan wrote:No, town strategy isn't to survive, it's to find and lynch scum before they out-number town.
Being unlynchable as town is just as effective as finding scum in the early game. And, for the most part, generally more accurate - I can be certain of my own alignment. I may read others wrong. I have the stronger position here; I suggest you check yourself before you wreck yourself.
No. Scum kill unlynchable townies. There's no advantage to your playstyle if your town.
So a townie shouldn't be super-pro-town or obv-town as town because they'd be unlynchable and therefore it isn't advantageous?

Yeah, fuck off with your blowhard argument.
In post 1481, Kublai Khan wrote:No, I don't.
I'm sure you can back this up with quotes that won't be subsequently refuted by my own proof, right?
In post 1481, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1480, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:And while you're at it; why don't you explain what is so questionable about my play?
I already have been.
Such as?
In post 1496, Hanzo_5 wrote:
@B&TB

Your question is assumes to much.I didnt say all of your play was fluffy. just that the specific thing I quoted was. Further you didnt ask for my reason, you asked if I have summed all your post up by that one comment.

I have no case against you. Stop making things up. Ive been giving you the benefit of the doubt because you seem confused. But no more...

Also its a game. try to be a little more mature...
I'm guessing this is to the Mollie half. Care to restate your issue with us? Succinctly, please.
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Post Post #1567 (isolation #203) » Thu May 16, 2013 3:50 am

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In post 1559, Vegito wrote:
In post 1551, Thor665 wrote:She's saying stuff.
Your name is functionally attached to it.
Let me show you my careface, Thor. :neutral:
In post 1551, Thor665 wrote: If the two of you half-wits can't manage a full wit seperately, maybe you should, y'know, talk some stuff over a bit, consolidate some opinions?
But, seriously, I want your read on what she's doing right now.
Because it looks very, very, bad.
And I'm going to lynch you over it once the rest of town realizes what's going down.
We actually
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I don't give a fuck what she's doing now. If she feels she's struggling in an argument, she'll ask me for help. Otherwise, fuck off with your bullshit, yeah?

We're town. Deal with it.
In post 1551, Thor665 wrote: Also, frankly, your demand for Khan to provide reasons that he dislikes your posts as you debate his reasons for disliking your posts?
Kinda weird.
Weak reading on your part. Try again.

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Too imbibed for 1552. Get back to that later.
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Post Post #1568 (isolation #204) » Thu May 16, 2013 4:03 am

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In post 1552, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1528, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 1481, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1480, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 1479, Kublai Khan wrote:No, town strategy isn't to survive, it's to find and lynch scum before they out-number town.
Being unlynchable as town is just as effective as finding scum in the early game.
And, for the most part, generally more accurate - I can be certain of my own alignment. I may read others wrong. I have the stronger position here; I suggest you check yourself before you wreck yourself.
No.
Scum kill unlynchable townies. There's no advantage
to your playstyle if your town.
So
a townie shouldn't be super-pro-town or obv-town
as town
because they'd be unlynchable
and therefore it isn't advantageous?
Okay, there's three possibilities here. Either out of nowhere, I've decided to start arguing against every accepted mafia theory on proper town play and I'm calling for townies to not look town. -OR- You're deliberately twisting an argument for a very cheap attack. -OR- You're amazingly horrible at reading comprehension. Take your pick.
The first one. Look at the bolded.
You
went down this path all on your own. Don't blame me for your own stupidity.
In post 1552, Kublai Khan wrote: I've accused you of having a survivalist attitude in this game. You've answered that being unlynchable helps you find scum. Your answer reveals to me that you may be too stupid to comprehend what I'm trying to say.
Well, seeing as that's not actually what I said... I guess you may be too stupid to comprehend how to play this game.
In post 1552, Kublai Khan wrote: Do you understand the concept that a random mafioso has a more pressing need to survive than a random townie? (Completely ignoring power roles at this point)
That depends. Is this a LYLO situation?
In post 1552, Kublai Khan wrote: Do you understand that scum can easily imitate an attitude of "I know I'm town and you're probably scum for suggesting otherwise"? Do you understand that it is unhelpful for town
If you can't tell the difference between blatanttownspeak and scumtryingtoactlikeblatanttownspeak, you should head back to the newbie games.
In post 1552, Kublai Khan wrote:DLG made some good points about some inconsistent behavior and poor reading comprehension on your part and asked some clarification questions. Your response was to put him on your "shitlist" and list him as scum in the subsequent post. Do you feel that that was appropriate townie behavior? Did you understand his questions?
None of those were good points, they were all proven wrong.

I put him as scum because he was trying to superimpose scumminess into my play where it didn't feasibly exist. Yes, I felt that was appropriate behavior. Did you understand the argument that ensued? Because it looks like you didn't read.
In post 1560, Syryana wrote:
Bacde wrote:multiball?
The fuck does this mean?
Multiple scum factions.
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Post Post #1603 (isolation #205) » Thu May 16, 2013 12:24 pm

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VOTE: Nacho
Cephrir tomorrow please, whether we're alive or not.
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Post Post #1624 (isolation #206) » Thu May 16, 2013 8:20 pm

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In post 1623, Kublai Khan wrote:BTW - I'm legitimately pissed at you for asking me to replace into a game with Majiffy in it.
What crawled up your ass and died?
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Post Post #1627 (isolation #207) » Thu May 16, 2013 9:50 pm

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oh god why do arc, kublai, ctd, AK and cephir all look like scum on this page

also why is everyone letting thor skate. like omg
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Post Post #1630 (isolation #208) » Thu May 16, 2013 10:01 pm

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the whole team?

eta: that was to bc
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Post Post #1631 (isolation #209) » Thu May 16, 2013 10:01 pm

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UNVOTE: nacho
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Post Post #1632 (isolation #210) » Thu May 16, 2013 10:02 pm

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kublai's new nickname is "kubbles"
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Post Post #1691 (isolation #211) » Fri May 17, 2013 8:38 am

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In post 1656, Nachomamma8 wrote:Mollie, do you have a town read on maramala
not anymore

lol

there were only 2 possibilities
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Post Post #1693 (isolation #212) » Fri May 17, 2013 8:42 am

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@ bc

I don't understand why you are saying that you are simply not understanding hanz

he cherrypicked a point and hyper focused on it to the exclusion of the rest of the game

how is that not weird
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Post Post #1694 (isolation #213) » Fri May 17, 2013 8:47 am

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In post 1687, Bacde wrote:
In post 1685, thezmon221 wrote:WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH.

WOAH.

What happened to you being super convinced that Nacho was scum? Like, seemingly 100% convinced? But at its height you decide you want to go another way?
I dunno

pushing a scumread for this long with minimal vocal support is draining


like really really draining

if I had someone to back me up I'd probably be high energy against nacho right now

I've just had to argue against people all day

I think the "Nacho demanded I follow his scumreads in the heat of the moment" despite him saying that he is "not happy about his reads" is a pretty good reason to say nacho is scum

but fuckit, if no one wants to back me up I'll become a follower like the majority of this town

its only d1 anyway
wat

I have been vocally supporting you
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Post Post #1695 (isolation #214) » Fri May 17, 2013 8:48 am

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In post 1689, Bacde wrote:
In post 1685, thezmon221 wrote:WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH.

WOAH.

What happened to you being super convinced that Nacho was scum? Like, seemingly 100% convinced? But at its height you decide you want to go another way?
I don't really feel like this is the height of the wagon

who are you suspicious of thezmon?
he only needs 5 more votes and given the time crunch this is a weird post
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Post Post #1705 (isolation #215) » Fri May 17, 2013 11:25 am

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In post 1636, ArcAngel9 wrote:this must be majiffy :P
Caught me! :giggle:

Nacho - Seanald lynch?
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Post Post #1710 (isolation #216) » Fri May 17, 2013 1:11 pm

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In post 1709, Bacde wrote:Syr I'm willing to work with you on AA9 scum

I'm in a "could be scum could be town" headspace with AA9 right now
wait you had her for a sure scum read like 5 minutes ago and now you are bargaining
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Post Post #1724 (isolation #217) » Fri May 17, 2013 5:39 pm

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In post 1715, Baby Spice wrote:Thor and one of the Hydra's I think it was got away with it and that was far more egrarius than your comment Bacde.
gee

I hope you are not talking about me

cos this was the game I was referring to wrt the cult game:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=24690

also I don't think thor has mentioned any ongoing games he wouldn't do that

lol, I think I argued about something similar to this in that very same game!

the irony
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Post Post #1725 (isolation #218) » Fri May 17, 2013 5:48 pm

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In post 1723, Syryana wrote:
Bacde wrote:Yeah but then she made the long reads post and everyone was like "wow AA9 so town" and I got caught up with the crowd
People that thought AA9's post was "good" or "townie": Bulbazak, Cephrir, AK, Slandaar

People who didn't: B&B, me, Thezemon

Hmm...

Slandaar, why do you think AA is town? You were in Tenements too; this is nothing like her town play was there.

Bacde. Let's assume for a moment that the Nacho slot doesn't exist. Who are your top three scumreads, and why?

B&B, what are your general thoughts on current events? (E.g. Bacde's sudden Nacho waffle, Nacho v. Desp)
I understand his waffle cos I am having it too

I am guessing you have bc as town hence the term "waffle"

nacho vs desperado is something I do not get

I am rethinking some reads
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Post Post #1727 (isolation #219) » Fri May 17, 2013 6:09 pm

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well I had you as scum do I need to rethink that
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Post Post #1730 (isolation #220) » Fri May 17, 2013 6:28 pm

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you were in the unsure pile possible scum list

I have a hard time reading you
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Post Post #1732 (isolation #221) » Fri May 17, 2013 6:34 pm

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yeah I hammered on a special

go me

or did I only hammer seanalderina

we still won though
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Post Post #1760 (isolation #222) » Sat May 18, 2013 10:20 am

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In post 1758, Thor665 wrote:Big talk from the head dodging responding to me (whichever head this is - both of you wussbags are doing it)
But I bet this is Mollie (because I'd like to think Majiffy is too proud to say 'omg' like a little girl) and Mollie is the one "scumhunting" me as I understand it.
What exactly have
I
not responded to?
And I'm not scumhunting you because I have a town read on you. Mollie is the paranoid one on you and Bacde.
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Post Post #1792 (isolation #223) » Sat May 18, 2013 5:48 pm

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In post 1786, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1760, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 1758, Thor665 wrote:Big talk from the head dodging responding to me (whichever head this is - both of you wussbags are doing it)
But I bet this is Mollie (because I'd like to think Majiffy is too proud to say 'omg' like a little girl) and Mollie is the one "scumhunting" me as I understand it.
What exactly have
I
not responded to?
And I'm not scumhunting you because I have a town read on you. Mollie is the paranoid one on you and Bacde.
It is rather silly and scummy to force other people to deal with your split personalities as a hydra.
When mollie doesn't respond to something than YOU haven't responded to something.
Deal with it.

Also, Bacde is playing terribly -
but he's still playing better than all the feebs sitting around not voting or voting single vote wagons at this stage of the game day
.
Seriously now.
wrt the bold: do you people see this thor's vote is on us but he is whining that people are voting wagons that aren't going anywhere I mean omg the irony. mebbe hypocrisy is a towntell for him I dunno

@ thor

I left you alone cos majiffy yelled at me in gchat and I didn't want to get in the way of you 2's bromance. I have you as scum and majiffy has you as town. you can also drop that patronising condescending tone with me you know perfectly well that I am not going wilt under your bullying I am pretty much immune. I will dig up the post where you voted us and see if you actually asked any questions or if it was all hot air that had nothing to do with the reality of the game. I don't really remember you asking any questions but I will look. also did you read my meta case on nacho? it is pretty brilliant IMO.

@ bc

you are my strongest town read like if you are scum I am going to have the most epic meltdown of all time and that is saying a lot cos I have had some seriously epic meltdowns. you are thinking exactly what I am thinking at exactly the same time in the game thread and it is pretty spooky. I am not going to lie, I feel really squeamish about lynching nacho cos I adore him and the only entertainment that will be left will be arguing with thor but even that will probably get boring and tedious. nero has potential. but I will probably move my vote to nacho only so that majiffy can move it somewhere else lol

I think the biggest thing with nacho is that he said he knows he is not playing to his meta and doesn't blame us for thinking what we are thinking. he looked good in the desperado exchange and I will probably have to go back and reread those pages. I dunno.

I want to try triangulating with you with either slaandar or nero and see what that feels like. if they are town then we have a good core group if not we can work from there

also nero and I had a moment in the chatroom over both of us eating leftover pizza for breakfast mebbe he won't be quite so mean to me now, lol.

still unsure on syrana she felt like she could have been coming from town or scum during our exchange.

dunno about arc. I used to be able to read her but she did such a completely fucked thing in a recent game that made zero sense.

fuzzy gets lynched in nearly every game he plays in lol. right now he is shutting down and it looks more like scum fuzzy (I only have 1 game to base that off of and he subbed in to a player who was like L1 or L2 or something) but he needs to be more productive. hey I was in ap classes too back in the day passed both of them but they were english and english lit and at that point you either know how to write an essay in a timed format or you don't but I can see how it can be stressful. he would be the compromise lynch for me

eta: kublai you didn't read my meta case did you :(
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Post Post #1801 (isolation #224) » Sat May 18, 2013 7:39 pm

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In post 1794, Thor665 wrote:And at that point in time I was on a wagon with two votes - which...y'know, I wasn't complaining about. Maybe you should look up what hypocrisy means?
compared to other wagons that had more legs. not to mention at the time you whined you were being sticky with your vote. that post was still hypocritical IMO
That's funny - he said he was not reading what you were saying and was letting you run with it.
Is one of you lying, or am I misunderstanding something?
I am not sure if he was so much as lying as he really just skimmed my back and forth with you. I know he has read at least 1 post cos he said something about it. he knows how I feel about you being scum cos I pretty much have said, "I think thor is scum" and asked him why he is giving you a town read. he says you are playing like you always do which is meta and I wish that he would just acknowledge that he plays by meta too. he says that my case on you is based on something you do as town but I don't go by pattern matching I go by how a person thinks and if it feels natural. you feel edgy. this is why I am reading you as scum.
As I recall, i got you to "wilt" once before. So, I'm not sure why I'm supposed to perfectly know that you won't. Next thing you know you'll be telling me I can't call you a liar.
when did you ever get me to wilt. and I am not lying we are freaking screaming town

it kind of feels like you are pushing my buttons in order to react in a negative way. this is why I find you highly manipulative and I will be surprised if you do it to this degree as town.
I, sadly, consider this in line with town Nacho. It may or may not also be in line with scum Nacho, but from recent experiences I don't currently find it out of whack.
so if you are wobbling on this read why not try to engage cos otherwise this is hedging where are you trying to get a better read off nacho
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Post Post #1806 (isolation #225) » Sat May 18, 2013 8:14 pm

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In post 1802, Thor665 wrote:Your definition of both sticky and "wagons with more legs" is pretty iffy if you paid half a second's attention to my reads and actions.
well your action so far is to keep your vote on us. which is pretty dumb since you could be using that power elsewhere
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don't give me that face
Audio Mafia.
You are screaming that you are town - I just don't believe you.
what are you even talking about I did not "wilt" in that game if anything you dramaqueened all over the place. and as far as you not believing me I think it is cos you are not reading my posts except for the ones that have to do with you
In post 1801, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:You've seen me do the exact sort of thing in audio mafia.
These sorts of lies are why I don't believe you.
your push feels different. I am not sure if it is cos we are a hydra or not.
I didn't say I was wobbling - I said I didn't find this play of his to be in line with scum Nacho because town Nacho wouldn't play like this.
wait wat. so why is your vote not on him
My reply is - I've seen town Nacho play like this.
My personal read of Nacho is town, but it has nothing to do with the meta case, the meta case on him is null in my opinion because I disagree with the meta conclusion, because he can be quite terrible, lurky, and unresponsive as town. I think it's a shame he does that, but he does do that now. I agree that he didn't use to. Meta changes.
hhhhmmm....

he can be lurky as town sometimes. that isn't why I want to vote him though

ugh thor you confuse me
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Post Post #1807 (isolation #226) » Sun May 19, 2013 12:46 am

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In post 1803, Seanald wrote:
In post 1760, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Mollie is the paranoid one on you and Bacde
mollie being paranoid = her making really shitty lynch decisions, so tell her to stop
Our vote isn't on Bacde or Thor, so...?

What are you trying to accomplish with this post?
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Post Post #1808 (isolation #227) » Sun May 19, 2013 2:07 am

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In post 1807, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 1803, Seanald wrote:
In post 1760, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Mollie is the paranoid one on you and Bacde
mollie being paranoid = her making really shitty lynch decisions, so tell her to stop
Our vote isn't on Bacde or Thor, so...?

What are you trying to accomplish with this post?
I know what you are saying seanladerina

bc I am good with I am going to try to not back out of this read at all. thor I need a few rounds with
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Post Post #1811 (isolation #228) » Sun May 19, 2013 2:50 am

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explain
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Post Post #1815 (isolation #229) » Sun May 19, 2013 3:15 am

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In post 1812, Kublai Khan wrote:Oversoul:

Fake claim gambit.
Plenty of activity.
Retracted claim.
Slow on analysis.
Analysis given is poor and superficial.
Claims boredom and disinterest due to waiting for responses.
Posted that he got a lot of response and that he enjoys the thrill of gambitting.
Soft-claiming that he shouldn't be vigged.
okay

I think

VOTE: oversoul
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Post Post #1816 (isolation #230) » Sun May 19, 2013 3:15 am

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but why is nacho ignoring this game
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Post Post #1818 (isolation #231) » Sun May 19, 2013 3:17 am

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In post 1817, Majiffy wrote:
In post 1812, Kublai Khan wrote:Oversoul:

Fake claim gambit.
Plenty of activity.
Retracted claim.
Slow on analysis.
Analysis given is poor and superficial.
Claims boredom and disinterest due to waiting for responses.
Posted that he got a lot of response and that he enjoys the thrill of gambitting.
Soft-claiming that he shouldn't be vigged.
The only hope now, I felt, was the possibility that we'd gone to such excess, with our gig, that nobody in a position to bring the hammer down on us could possibly believe it . . . When you bring an act into this town, you want to bring it in heavy. Don't waste any time with cheap shucks and misdemeanors. Go straight for the jugular. Get right into felonies.
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Post Post #1820 (isolation #232) » Sun May 19, 2013 3:25 am

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I'm down with a fuzzy lynch. Still prefer Cephrir or Nacho though.
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Post Post #1823 (isolation #233) » Sun May 19, 2013 3:44 am

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In post 1821, Kublai Khan wrote:Who wrote the second quote?
The Good Dr. Thompson.
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Post Post #1824 (isolation #234) » Sun May 19, 2013 3:44 am

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In post 1821, Kublai Khan wrote:Who wrote the second quote?
The Good Dr. Thompson.
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Post Post #1826 (isolation #235) » Sun May 19, 2013 4:50 am

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In post 1814, Kublai Khan wrote:If we don't lynch Nachomamma8 today, you'll be beating the war drums tomorrow.
If we do lynch Nachomamma8 today, you'll... just go off whatever is posted Day 2?
ftr, this looks like you know bc will flip town

as in you won't be nking him
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Post Post #1877 (isolation #236) » Sun May 19, 2013 12:53 pm

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In post 1837, Thor665 wrote:Vote: Red Ryu[/b]
I have a town read on Ryu.
In post 1855, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1718, Majiffy wrote:
USER WAS MODKILLED FOR THIS POST.
vote:B&TB
75 pages and
this
is how you choose to use your vote?
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Post Post #1880 (isolation #237) » Sun May 19, 2013 1:37 pm

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In post 1836, Kublai Khan wrote:For fuck's sake. Are you seriously calling me scummy while sheeping my vote? Can you fence sit any fucking harder?

Obviously, if bacde gets night-killed if a moot question.
I once sheeped nacho for an entire game when I knew he was scum.

true story. I was trying to figure out who his partner was

pretty sure you are scum kubbles. I bet thor thinks you are too

speaking of thor what is your read on him we need to preserve it for reasons of posterity
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #238) » Sun May 19, 2013 1:45 pm

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In post 1834, Slandaar wrote:Thor asks Nacho a question
Nacho Ignores
I prod Thor
Thor forgets Nacho still.

Thor had a line of enquiry on Nacho which was ignored and then he kind of just dropped his line of thinking.

Probably means Thor is scum.
I <3 you plz don't stop

I am pretty sure thor is scum
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Post Post #1884 (isolation #239) » Sun May 19, 2013 2:16 pm

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In post 1837, Thor665 wrote:Ah, so now we're changing the focus of the attack away from hypocrisy (proven false) and over towards stupidity. In other words, you got new information, and decided to change your reasoning in order to still hold the same conclusion.
That is not the way logic works.
Do you do that as town, or only scum?
you never proved that it was false don't even. I said it might be a town tell for you so the whole "change in reasoning" doesn't hold water it is more like a sieve as in your argument is so full of holes it carries no weight. I had 2 different conclusions from that line of thinking and I stated it but I am back to thinking you are scum. why? cos what I said made perfect sense and you know it but are still trying to push a crappy point
I caught you because you presented a false argument and then tried to keep it going and I noted how you were trying to bulldog through and ignore logic and heavily pressured you until it became obvious to everyone else that I was right. If you don't want to call that 'wilting' that's fine with me - tell me what word you think it is, and then I'll say that's what I expected you to do to my pressure...which, y'know, was your original point 'Thor, why pressur eme ecause you know it won't work' when, clearly, I have seen it work.
I was asking you to stop that condescending tone with me (you are still patronising but I will deal) and it worked!

that is what that was about. ty
Explain this. Because I have no idea why my push should feel different because you're a hydra.
That doesn't even begin to make sense, frankly.
people treat hydras differently a lot of people hate hydras on this site. you either understand this basic concept or you don't

*shrug*
1. Thor points out a valid meta point about Nacho playing badly as town.
2. Mollie uses meta to explain why Nacho is town because he's playing badly.
3. Mollie is confused by Thor.
1. okay
2. erm that isn't quite what happened
3. yes but since you are scum it makes perfect sense
I am more confused now.
no you are not you are scum and trying to hide behind wordplay as if that will save your scummy butt
So game is back on despite Majiffy telling you to stop and you stopping on his word?
Ooooookay.
Still waiting for you to do more than throw random and nonsensical scumtells at me, accept my responses are true, and then bend the answers into still being scumtells.
I'm sure that's how scumhunting works - because town would totally respond to that differently than scum.
lol thor attempts to rewrite history itt

what I am saying is town thor makes sense

you are not making sense

and I still say you haven't been reading my posts unless they are addressed to you

HUGE SCUMTELL
People are raging lackwits about Majiffy/Mollie - that is a blatant scum Mollie, and I want to hear reasons from people why it looks town when it is lying and misrepping.
I think you are doing the misrepping here and being opportunistic over mine and majiffy's dissonance. majiffy and I argue a lot in mafia we have 2 completely different approaches anybody who has played with us knows this

there is no way you can look at us and not say we are town for bloody obvious reasons but oh hai there are some moar of your posts I wanna address
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Post Post #1885 (isolation #240) » Sun May 19, 2013 2:20 pm

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In post 1848, Thor665 wrote:Also, if I'm honest, I think I just consider Red to be the most likely to be lynched of players I want to lynch. B&tB and Slandaar both seem immune from getting votes for some reason.
oh hai guess who the nks are gonna be!
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Post Post #1886 (isolation #241) » Sun May 19, 2013 2:25 pm

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also the crap about nacho not massclaiming as town is dumb
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Post Post #1887 (isolation #242) » Sun May 19, 2013 2:34 pm

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also I guess this is multiball since thor said there will 3 to 4 nks we really need to pay attention to this cos it changes the dynamics
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Post Post #1890 (isolation #243) » Sun May 19, 2013 3:25 pm

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In post 1888, Thor665 wrote:Then explain how what I said was hypocritical. Because if what you said made sense then you should be able to do so.
I did. you put a vote on a weak wagon when there were other options in play do you know who does that as a vet player and then tries to berate other players for doing the same it is scum that is who. I was wondering if it was a town tell for you but I guess it isn't
I remember the last time you got dodgy about what you were saying and then went into a 'how dare you personally attack me spiel'

You didn't flip town.
and I remember the last time you tried to use this as a scumtell for me. pretty sure you were culted at that point
How am I treating you differently?
Again, you're dodging the original point of the question to give a sideways answer.
no I am not
So what did happen?
:neutral:
I've been doing that to a lot of posts this game.
Heck, i still haven't finished my catchup and no one has mentioned it so I'm planning to let that slide too.
I mentioned it

I just said it

ahdjkshflwerhjdjsdnisawlqewiz
It's actually quite easy for me to point and you and call you scum.
What are the obvious reasons I'm missing?
no it isn't. it is why you are going about it all clumsily
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Post Post #1891 (isolation #244) » Sun May 19, 2013 3:27 pm

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In post 1889, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1885, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 1848, Thor665 wrote:Also, if I'm honest, I think I just consider Red to be the most likely to be lynched of players I want to lynch. B&tB and Slandaar both seem immune from getting votes for some reason.
oh hai guess who the nks are gonna be!
I would love that if it were true.
In post 1886, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:also the crap about nacho not massclaiming as town is dumb
I agree.
In post 1887, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:also I guess this is multiball since thor said there will 3 to 4 nks we really need to pay attention to this cos it changes the dynamics
It's because I'm an informed townie or scum, there is no other way to have this information at my fingertips.
GOD FFS LYNCH THIS

PLZ
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Post Post #1895 (isolation #245) » Sun May 19, 2013 4:14 pm

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You really screwed those quotes up, Thor.

Why are you ignoring me when I'm telling you I have a town read on Ryu?
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Post Post #1922 (isolation #246) » Mon May 20, 2013 3:17 am

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what was your stance on mass-claiming in diffusion of power I forget

thor was arguing from the stance that you wouldn't do this as scum unless you had done this as town
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Post Post #1924 (isolation #247) » Mon May 20, 2013 3:30 am

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so it is a null meta tell for you

what is your stance on thor
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Post Post #1926 (isolation #248) » Mon May 20, 2013 3:37 am

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really?

dammit

okay
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Post Post #1989 (isolation #249) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:25 am

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Don't like that Nacho took the emphasis out of the quote here. I see no town motivation for doing so, and see no way it could have happened unintentionally. This was a scum tactic through-and-through. Back on Nacho.

VOTE: Nacho
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Post Post #1994 (isolation #250) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:45 am

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In post 1950, Desperado wrote:So your only response is semantics? You said what you said, and I can only assume that you meant it to. This is backtracking, now that I caught you in a lie
again
. About the same thing! It's also funny that you don't actually address the fact that you just lied again.
Note the bolded. Note where it is located in the text.
In post 1951, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1950, Desperado wrote:So your only response is semantics? You said what you said, and I can only assume that you meant it to. This is backtracking, now that I caught you in a lie again. About the same thing! It's also funny that you don't actually address the fact that you just lied again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exaggeration
Since you like wikipedia articles so much.
Note the lack of bold. Note that you retained the quote tag as if you hit the quote button. Note that the text on either side of the bolded is unchanged.

You
deliberately
removed the bold from the word again.
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Post Post #1997 (isolation #251) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:49 am

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In post 1990, ArcAngel9 wrote:^ how confident are you that Nacho is scum?
What do you think of Despo?
I have issues with Despo's "oh I'm so happy it's a 1v1 against me and Nacho, the wagons are really diving people!". Looks like a possible Nacho teammate that wants to "clear" himself on a Nacho scumflip, or visa-versa, clearing Nacho if Despo flips scum.

I'll have to take a look at their argument thus far in the event of a flip and see if it looks town/scum or scum/scum.
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Post Post #2000 (isolation #252) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:50 am

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It didn't do anything. Maybe your instructions were unclear?
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Post Post #2001 (isolation #253) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:50 am

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Check
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Post Post #2002 (isolation #254) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:51 am

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"Your message contains too few characters".
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Post Post #2003 (isolation #255) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:52 am

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Oh I see.
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Post Post #2004 (isolation #256) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:52 am

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Well, whatever. Still think you're scum anyway, just thought I caught something extra.
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Post Post #2009 (isolation #257) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:54 am

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In post 2006, mastin2 wrote:I swear this was at 1990 less than five minutes ago. >_<
We're playing with hidden features!
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Post Post #2017 (isolation #258) » Mon May 20, 2013 12:14 pm

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If not Nacho, then Cephrir.

I think Mollie mentioned Nero being a scum read, I'd be ok with lynching him, too.
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Post Post #2021 (isolation #259) » Mon May 20, 2013 12:25 pm

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In post 2018, ArcAngel9 wrote:OMG, I love this song.
Check the Alex goot version.. Its SUPER COOL

Eugh, he likes autotune more than T-Pain Swift. :?
In post 2019, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2009, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 2006, mastin2 wrote:I swear this was at 1990 less than five minutes ago. >_<
We're playing with hidden features!
Go back to your hydra, lazy bum!!!! :P
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Post Post #2050 (isolation #260) » Mon May 20, 2013 5:13 pm

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In post 1961, Kublai Khan wrote:So you think I'm scum. And you think Thor665 is scum. And you think that Thor665 thinks that I am scum. Link me to a scum-game. I've actually got you down as "too stupid to be scum" and I want to double check.

I'm non-committal on Thor665. The game is too noisy to get a definite read on him. He's been doing too much one-on-one absolute fucking minutia circular arguments of crap. He's jsut deconstructing other people's arguments instead of making his own. It's counter-productive as hell. I'd get more of a town feeling if he just gave reads and pursued wagons.

Actually, thinking and writing the above, Thor665 is on the scummier side.
DO YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN ABOUT THOR????

and actually I don't really have a scum read on you I just wanted to see what you would do
Wait, where did Thor665 say this?
it was around when he marked slaandar for nks. I tried looking through his iso but I couldn't find it but tbh I am not feeling good today I have been sick all day so it will have to wait til tomorrow but I will try to find it. I could have sworn it was thor who said that if is wasn't him then that will change things for me.

@ arc

it was maestro's great idea game where you fake claimed in lylo a role that was not even on the list and negged on the gm and the gm confirmed that he only used the roles that were on that list. it cost us the game.

nacho you are feeling a little better to me now!
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Post Post #2055 (isolation #261) » Mon May 20, 2013 5:55 pm

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In post 1996, Syryana wrote:All of you still on the Nacho wagon should be ashamed of yourselves. Make up for it by voting Desp.
In post 1927, Red Ryu wrote:Elaborate on this post.

Also why you responded to these specific people?
They were the people whose names popped into my head at that specific time.

No elaboration required. Just unvote Nacho and vote Desp.
In post 1956, ArcAngel9 wrote:So basically your case on me is "META", right?
And anyone who played with me on MS can you tell that "Tenemants" is not a game that tells what kind of player I am. How about you check over few town games ( since i have plently lying around) and come back to me if you really feel that my play reperestns a scum play.

You have already made an obvious statment that I carry OMGUS reputation but this is something i can see that you would be doing it as scum, well which is what exactly you did in Tenemants where you were scum and also you did in another on-going game, and you were scum again(dead one). so tell me How is case is any different to the read you just stated about me?

Yet you are calling it as "First attack" and what I am doing to do is OMGUS? Can you ever get better, becuase this is pathetic reason to blame anyone. You said that i sucked as town in Tenemants. Well, then you haven't seen my actual town play. In case if you didn't notice, this is how it looks...
People really love breaking that ongoing rule...

Just because I'm feeling nice today, I will explain to you what my take on meta is. I'm not one of those people who will trawl through dozens of games to figure out what people may or may not do as a given alignment. My "meta" as it were revolves around actually
playing
with people. My experiences with them make up my opinion of their playstyle.

That being said, my experiences thus far have shown that: you are a lurker, you love to OMGUS people, your deductive reasoning leaves worlds to be desired and you put in no particular effort into a game until someone shoves a large burning rod up your ass. Three of these qualities are present in this game. One is not. It is the plain and simple fact that you are putting so much effort into "reads" and "cases" together (they still suck, but A+ for effort) that makes me think you're scum. There are also plenty of other scum-motivated things in your ISO, but I'm not bothering to get into that because I'm not interested in seeing a lynch on you today anymore.

In the timeless words of a great and revered man: "Blow it out your ass."

Peditx4: A bolded word?! Are we fucking serious here?!?!? No, just no. And #1993 is opportunistic as fuck.
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Post Post #2056 (isolation #262) » Mon May 20, 2013 6:07 pm

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In post 2025, Syryana wrote:
In post 2023, Bulbazak wrote:I think the argument he tried to start with you about CTD and DLG was bad and not related to the original point (as you said, strawman), and has actually become an Argument from Repetition. That said, the biggest thing against him is his claim that you are suffering from confirmation bias, as that betrays a town read or knowledge. Given his more recent posts, we can rule out a spontaneous town read, which makes this a scum slip. I'm trying to organize my various scum reads at the moment in order to decide what to do (My Bacde vote is not cutting it.), but he's definitely moved out of my null/scum pile.
I see all these buzzwords (Argument from Repetition, confirmation bias, strawman) but I've no idea what point you're trying to make.

Do you think he's scum, yes or no? We can get into the whys and wherefores after you organize your thoughts.
like for realz. I <3 syrana who is from now on syrlacious to me
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Post Post #2062 (isolation #263) » Mon May 20, 2013 6:23 pm

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In post 2052, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2048, Baby Spice wrote:The only time Bacde ever joked about bussing a scumbudy that I could find, he was actually bussing a scum budy.
He joked about bussing you this game.

Combined with what looks like a bus vote from Bc and ...
Oh sweet, link it. Also, why does this look like a bus vote?
In post 2049, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Syr why is our hop now suspect when we have been on about Nacho being scum for a while? We were vote#4 on the ori wagon. I find it odd that you're now calling us out for it even though its not something new that we have done.
You guys haven't had a solid reason for voting me in forever, although I would expect Mara to be engaging me pretty directly if she thought I was scum.
In post 2050, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:nacho you are feeling a little better to me now!
Only a little better?
okay a lot better Image

I feel relieved. I hate it when we fight.

it was that sounded genuinely frustrated with bc I think that is the closest I have ever seen you to getting pissy in a game lol.

do you know who nero reminds me of? teeth and I used to fight like this when I first came to tr

a quiet teeth is a dangerous thing I mean I left an easter egg for nero and he didn't pick it up that kind of worries me

ak can only be 1 of 2 things do you know what I mean when I say that?

I will go on a thor diet for now if you have him as town too but he isn't really doing anything except nitpicking and being...something. don't be surprised if I get back on him

who all is in your town pile let's go from there

so we have you, us, bc for sure, I think I want to move syrlacious in there too.
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Post Post #2064 (isolation #264) » Mon May 20, 2013 6:34 pm

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In post 2058, Syryana wrote:Mollie, Syrlacious requests is requesting you vote Desp

Then his love is all yours
that is probably where our vote will go

majiffy will want to keep nacho around as much as I do

I am trying to sort out a 4 or 5 group to work in the next day round in case any of us gets nked.

do you really think bulb boy is town? I can't tell if his sycophancy is a personality thing or not I don't know him. I have been leaving him alone cos majiffy town reads him I am not wanting to work with him lol, he annoys the daylights out of me but I don't want to completely ignore him if there is something there
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Post Post #2071 (isolation #265) » Mon May 20, 2013 7:19 pm

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In post 2069, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 2067, Syryana wrote:
In post 2066, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 2054, Bacde wrote:hey guys lets unvote nacho and lynch desp plz

ok thanks
Where's this Desperado push coming from?
I asked him to, Bulb.
I'm not sure I buy that, especially with how hard he was pushing the Nacho wagon. The shift is disconcerting.
its cos nacho is starting to feel more like town nacho and he isn't going to want to lynch someone who is a really strong player when he is starting to pick up town vibes from

it is right here in the game.

speaking of

nachooooooo I was hoping to connect with you before I logged into my main where are you
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Post Post #2072 (isolation #266) » Mon May 20, 2013 7:22 pm

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syrlacious who is in your town pile right now
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Post Post #2113 (isolation #267) » Tue May 21, 2013 6:39 am

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In post 2085, Nachomamma8 wrote: you, bacde, thor, syryana, bulba, Om/HD, eddiefenix, arc, CTD, thez is the strong town pile. cephrir probably belongs in there, but I'm a little hesitant.
seanald is a decent townread for latching onto bacde in the way he did, red ryu i would call town but he's been hard to talk to lately, nero is probably town, but hesitant.
CTD I occasionally have paranoid flashes on but I still think he's probably town.
you know what this feels like nacho this feels like divagib! yaye! I like this list I can work with this.

I would add slaandy in there probable town, his reasoning makes sense and I totally get what he is seeing in thor cos I am seeing it too. his staying from us is weird but his last few posts have come from a town mindset. he seem to work well with others, seems a but of a loner. I have been getting good vibes from sealderina I think it has to do with the timing with the flow of the game he feels in step.

re: ak <----- feels completely out of step I mean we are bopping to reggae and they are listening to some internal music that makes them vaguely resemble an epileptic chicken. also where did overlysoul go I don't want to lose sight of him.

you how I am always banging on about the rhythm and flow of a game? this is what I am talking about. I am bookmarking this post cos later in the game we can come back to this later after a couple of flips. this is the first time on this site that I have felt this good about the arc of the flow of the day round I think it means we are on the right track.
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Post Post #2119 (isolation #268) » Tue May 21, 2013 7:06 am

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In post 2102, Oversoul wrote:
In post 2073, Bulbazak wrote:Oversoul: His play has just felt fake. His informed townie claim was a lie, which he later admitted to, and he contradicted himself on the reasons why he claimed. He said he did it for reactions, and then he isn't able to judge any of the reactions? But what really gets me is how often he backpedals. I mean, seriously, go back and read his ISO. It's backpedal central in there.
Obviously.

I'm on a bike.

We need to stop arguing over theory and just lynch people.
This game is getting too long and it is killing activity.


We should be killing fuzzy because of his play and most importantly because of his V/LA comments that are entirely emotional when there was no need and also sarcastic when there was no need.

He is trying to feign his town self.
^this

feels out of step

wrt the bold: the game is really long cos activity is super high which is the opposite of "killing activity". this post looks like town is on the brink of finding each other and scum are getting uncomfortable cos they are getting squeezed out. scummiest post in the game IMO.
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Post Post #2130 (isolation #269) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:20 am

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In post 2125, Desperado wrote:It isn't a potshot, it's the truth.
desperado I want you to listen to me. if we vote nacho it will be to save nacho. it is not because nacho is my friend and you aren't, it is because I know his skill level and I trust it to work towards a town wc and I don't know yours. right now you are flailing but it looks like town flail not scum flail and the indignation that you are getting lynched when at the core of it it looks you are just feeling left out and slightly bitter about it reads as genuine. to me you read as town but I will compromise on a lynch in order to save nacho and I am sorry if that bothers you.

here is my dilemma: I am looking at our town list and I am not sure if I see any potential solid coordination to lynch oversoul (cos that is who I would prefer right now). bulb has no idea what he is looking at when he is reading my posts, bc might go for it, syrlacious maybe, not sure about thor, seanalderina maybe, nero probably not, cephir maybe, fuzzy will just be glad it is anyone but him lol, slaandy will do his own thing, I might be able to convince ak to bus him cos they are now committed with their read on us, kubbles doesn't know me and everybody else is just lollygagging about I mean I want to help but I am just not quite seeing how I can.

look at your reaction to town coming together and then look at overlysoul's reaction and see how they are different,
look at the motivation behind the 2 reactions and see how they are different
. you want to avoid getting lynched then help me drum up some overlysoul business.

I am not good at making cases that is not what makes me a decent mafia player it is that I know how to find and coordinate with town I can do this fast and early with players that I am familiar with as long as I can keep my balance early in a game. when I get knocked off balance it takes me a long time to recover.

but anyways if you are town and you don't want to get lynched then stop flailing cos a lot of people on this site don't know how to tell the difference between scum flail and town flail they just think that all flailing is scummy and help me build a case on oversoul.
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Post Post #2132 (isolation #270) » Tue May 21, 2013 8:30 am

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In post 2126, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 2117, Desperado wrote: Please tell me more about how scum can't interpret events in a biased way.
This just tells me that you aren't even reading what I'm saying and are just trying to discredit the argument. The point is that scum don't suffer from confirmation bias, because they KNOW who is not on their team (confirmation bias depends on not knowing). Ergo, they know who is not scum. Therefore, any tunneling they do is driven by a scum desire for a mislynch and not confirmation bias.
In post 2123, Desperado wrote: that you could sprinkle in some surefire towntells (confirmation bias!) on
What?
desperado do you understand what bulb is saying here cos is making a very good point. it is just that I think you don't understand how confirmation bias works cos you haven't demonstrated so far that you have. I think you just don't know what it means.
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Post Post #2163 (isolation #271) » Tue May 21, 2013 1:28 pm

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In post 2146, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 2142, Desperado wrote: Both town and scum can approach an engagement with a preconceived conclusion and then fit the evidence to their conclusion. Do you all seriously dispute this?
Except scum's objective is to get mislynches, which means they are not going into it with preconceived conclusions, since they already know the other person's alignment and don't have to try to guess it. It is only confirmation bias if that person does not know the other one's alignment and then proceeds to fit evidence to a preconceived conclusion. That's the difference. If you believe someone to be scum, you don't say that they are suffering from confirmation bias, because that would be impossible. The only way you say that is if you believe the person doing the tunneling is town. Therefore, you saying that Nacho is suffering from confirmation bias belies a belief or knowledge that he's town, and the only faction that would have such alignment knowledge would be scum. Appearance has nothing to do with it. This has to do with the way YOU are reading the game, and you have displayed foreknowledge of Nacho's alignment being town, which means you are scum and scumslipped.
or it means that he doesn't understand the application of the term like I said.

anyways desperado you don't have to sell the os lynch to me I am ready to vote him off of that one post plus he isn't doing much in this gamthe case needs to be sold to everybody else

nacho, spice girl made one good post early in the game and hasn't done a thing since. null for me
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Post Post #2166 (isolation #272) » Tue May 21, 2013 2:36 pm

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I got a crazy idea; lets lynch Nero.

VOTE: Nero Cain
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Post Post #2175 (isolation #273) » Tue May 21, 2013 4:54 pm

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In post 2175, Nachomamma8 wrote:In #2170, I quoted a post by Bacde from a different game. Was he town or scum?
And please, let's not get to the discrediting part of this read yet. That happens after I'm pushing you as scum and calling out your buddies as you go down.
who are her buddies?
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Post Post #2177 (isolation #274) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:15 pm

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but you said you were calling out her buddies
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Post Post #2181 (isolation #275) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:29 pm

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A BabySpice lynch is fine too.

But a Nero lynch is better. C'mon Nacho.
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Post Post #2182 (isolation #276) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:30 pm

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hhhmmm....

why the vote on spice girl when you agreed with me about os and so far you have had him as sus
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Post Post #2184 (isolation #277) » Tue May 21, 2013 5:35 pm

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Who ya think it is.





GHOST NAPPA.
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Post Post #2208 (isolation #278) » Wed May 22, 2013 2:02 am

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In post 2204, Slandaar wrote:Thor is scum because hes a clever guy and the way he tried to nitpick me is astonishingly bad.

Sland: Nacho thinks Massclaim helps scum
Thor: no he never said that
Sland: well he said its terrible for town so he must also think it helps scum
Thor: nope
Sland: Examples of any situation where what I say doesn't apply
Thor: WELL THIS ONE TIME IN BAND CAMP

Thor: See Sland I told you I could do it!
Sland: good job Thor you showed me! Now die.

His examples don't apply and are absolutely terrible. It shows that he nitpicked my wording ridiculously for no actual reason other than to try to show me in a bad light.

Why is nitpicking scummy? because it is not legitimate scumhunting it is fake.

Also realise Thor subconsciously (or consciously) knows he is wrong when he said:
In post 2040, Thor665 wrote: But this is all silly debate at this stage - I just wanted to show I could do it.
See how he is no longer arguing what I said is wrong? he is just saying he wanted to show he could show examples of where his argument applies? (which are completely awful examples have I said that?)

Now lynch him.
wrt the bold: I laughed

slaandy I am seeing the same thing with thor. I want him lynched lynched lynched and more lynched. I want to feast on his bones.

but I don't think it is going to happen today

who else is on your radar
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Post Post #2210 (isolation #279) » Wed May 22, 2013 2:39 am

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nacho the thing that is worrying me about you is the lack of continuity or connectivity of your thoughts

it is hard to explain. I am finding myself not wanting to follow you in this game as much as I would like. we are simply not on the same page.

I actually understand why spice girl was looking into the whole bussing comment that bc made cos the same thought crossed my mind. but bc will say shit like that as scum or town it is a null tell for him.

I am townreading bc cos his thought processes match my own at the same time I am reading the thread. if he is scum in this game it will take a crowbar to pry me off of him in the future when we start thinking alike cos that would be something that has never happened before this extensively.

slaandy I don't think sylacious is new to mafia at all. so I can't follow that thought process

spice girl's frustration looks like town frustration. not interested in her lynch

eta: kubbles why
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Post Post #2212 (isolation #280) » Wed May 22, 2013 3:29 am

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lol normally I would find this slightly sus if you did not make a point earlier to correct bulb's name in 1 of your posts

so, okay

Kublai Khan why
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Post Post #2219 (isolation #281) » Wed May 22, 2013 5:17 am

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In post 2218, Bacde wrote:
In post 2215, Red Ryu wrote:Bacde show me why Nacho is not scum off what you read recently.

Vote: Baby Spice


This wagon I can defiantly get behind though.

Why were people voting Desp though, I forgot/didn't get far enough to see why.
tbh I'm not convinced nacho is scum anymore

i dunno if it was a specific post or what

I think its likely that he is scum and he manipulated me to somehow feel this way,
if that makes any sense


anyway AA9 is defo scum so we should lynch there
wrt the bold: lol, no

@ nacho okay I hear you
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Post Post #2248 (isolation #282) » Wed May 22, 2013 11:46 am

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In post 2190, Cephrir wrote:I guess I should at least give you a chance. B&B, why Nero?
Because he hasn't done shit, he's been active-lurking through the game, hasn't participated meaningfully in any way with anyone or anything, and is voting us for a joke post.
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Post Post #2333 (isolation #283) » Thu May 23, 2013 10:25 am

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yes

but desperado is in the lead and I actually think he is town so I cannot blame him for doing what he is doing. plus the extended interactions will help with reads once there is a flip.

also I am about as bad as bc for my bipolarism on nacho in this game.
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Post Post #2335 (isolation #284) » Thu May 23, 2013 10:48 am

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tbh he kind of is to me too which is why I almost want to lynch nacho again despite that beautiful moment
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Post Post #2344 (isolation #285) » Thu May 23, 2013 12:33 pm

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lol
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Post Post #2363 (isolation #286) » Fri May 24, 2013 2:36 am

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In post 2359, Slandaar wrote:Bulbazak is scum because he reads so fake and all he does is argue with the person in question which for the most part is Desperado but can also been seen in Om/HD he doesn't try to convince you ie the rest of us they are scum he tries to convince them ie Om/HD and Desperado he is right.
bingo

I noticed that too
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Post Post #2379 (isolation #287) » Fri May 24, 2013 7:05 am

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VOTE: oversoul
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Post Post #2388 (isolation #288) » Fri May 24, 2013 8:24 am

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yeah no talking about ongoing games I mean that rule is pretty clear
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Post Post #2404 (isolation #289) » Fri May 24, 2013 9:04 am

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@ slaandar

you tell me one thing that overlysoul has done that even remotely resembles town?

majiffy won't let me vote thor
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Post Post #2422 (isolation #290) » Fri May 24, 2013 10:17 am

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In post 2418, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2411, Bulbazak wrote:How are long game days bad for the town? They provide a lot of information that we can use later
But with SO MUCH info, weeding out who is scum/town can be very difficult. + the town grows apathetic which greatly helps scum.
In post 2412, Rena wrote:Why is #2403 scummy again?
"Hey guys, its ok id we loose OS, no one is going to miss him."

Mislynching is never a good thing and you seem to be ok with that.
:eek:

okay nero is like confscum now

he is always willing to mislynch

with this post he is actually playing....protown.

NERO IS PROBABLY SCUM GUYS!!!!!
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Post Post #2425 (isolation #291) » Fri May 24, 2013 10:26 am

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okay so you are okay with lynching overlysoul but then you chastise rena for....being okay with lynching os?

omg

will somebody plz vig him tonight

Spoiler: <<< Another Very Late Mod-edited-votecount >>>
Oversoul - 11 (Desperado, penguin_alien, Kublai Khan, Syryana, Nachomamma8, Cephrir, BeautyAndTheBeast, Bulbazak, thezmon221, Haylen, PeregrineV)

Desperado - 3 (ArcAngel9, Thor665, Amethyst Kitty)

Nachomamma8 - 4 (Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Bacde, Nero Cain)
Haylen - 1 (Oversoul)
penguin_alien - 2 (Red Ryu, Om the Destroyer)
Thor665 - 1 (Slandaar)

Not Voting - 2 (ThAdmiral, EddieFenix)

With
24
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13
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Oversoul was at L-2!
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Post Post #2427 (isolation #292) » Fri May 24, 2013 10:32 am

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UNVOTE: oversoul
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Post Post #2429 (isolation #293) » Fri May 24, 2013 10:36 am

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In post 2428, Nero Cain wrote:
the difference is that Rena made it sound like she has a town read on OS/that her scum read on OS is fake. Fucking read Mollie.
In post 2426, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 2424, Nero Cain wrote:I'm always down to policy lynch derp players like you and OS but I've never ever been willingly ok with mislynching a player.
Does not compute.
but this guy is prob scum. policy lynch=//=intentionally try to mislynch a town player. I mean Mollie is dumb as rocks and knows that I defend my town reads but your post looks like scum piling on.
lol, you are such scum nero! :lol:

VOTE: nero
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Post Post #2435 (isolation #294) » Fri May 24, 2013 10:47 am

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lol

I <3 you bc

and yeah I am thinking you are right about nacho maybe
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Post Post #2437 (isolation #295) » Fri May 24, 2013 10:48 am

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In post 2434, Nero Cain wrote:So you think I was bussing Nacho?
didn't you say that it was probably multi-ball like 5 minutes ago?
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Post Post #2439 (isolation #296) » Fri May 24, 2013 10:49 am

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lol, xpost

eta: I am waffling on you nacho
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Post Post #2441 (isolation #297) » Fri May 24, 2013 10:58 am

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In post 2440, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2437, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 2434, Nero Cain wrote:So you think I was bussing Nacho?
didn't you say that it was probably multi-ball like 5 minutes ago?
except he just called a Nacho/Nero team you ditz.
you are so busted. I am going to lord this moment over you for the rest of your mafia life :P
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Post Post #2443 (isolation #298) » Fri May 24, 2013 11:07 am

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I am going to write a song about this moment

this awsum awsum moment
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Post Post #2445 (isolation #299) » Fri May 24, 2013 11:17 am

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except you are not going to flip town are you :P
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Post Post #2457 (isolation #300) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:42 pm

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In post 2256, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2248, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 2190, Cephrir wrote:I guess I should at least give you a chance. B&B, why Nero?
Because he hasn't done shit, he's been active-lurking through the game, hasn't participated meaningfully in any way with anyone or anything, and is voting us for a joke post.
On the one hand, some okay points, though they don't really deserve a vote especially right now with deadline looming and a million other prospects. Not to mention, only the last doesn't apply to fuzzy, who is also actively scummy.
I've never seen Nero active lurk as town. Or exhibit any of the behavior he currently is.
In post 2267, Kublai Khan wrote:BeautyAndTheBeast either need to make a very moving case to build their wagon, or move their vote.
Try the last page.
In post 2422, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:okay nero is like confscum now
No shit.
In post 2433, Bacde wrote: I like where this is going

VOTE: Nero

nacho and nero sitting in a tree

s-c-u-m-i-n-g (not enough syllables for 2 m's)
Why the hell did you wait till now? I was voting him like 6 pages ago.

Goddamnit, Mollie, you're stealing my thunder on a Nero lynch.


Vote Nero, People. There IS An
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Post Post #2459 (isolation #301) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:43 pm

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Oops put the italics on the wrong part. Imagine that the italics are on "is" rather than "os".
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Post Post #2460 (isolation #302) » Fri May 24, 2013 1:43 pm

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In post 2458, Rena wrote:Long shot: Anyone want to lynch B+B today?
No one that's read the full thread and also has a town wincon.
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Post Post #2463 (isolation #303) » Fri May 24, 2013 2:33 pm

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In post 2461, Rena wrote:And why might that be?

Are you just calling people scum who call you scum again?
You should try reading the thread before I find myself becoming uncivil.
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Post Post #2467 (isolation #304) » Fri May 24, 2013 2:46 pm

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In post 2466, Rena wrote:
In post 2463, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 2461, Rena wrote:And why might that be?

Are you just calling people scum who call you scum again?
You should try reading the thread before I find myself becoming uncivil.
I just iso'd you and picked out all your yaay sheeping posts and booo stop sheeping posts.
Are you going to step up with a case or are you going to sit around flinging shit all game like a useless monkey?
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Post Post #2469 (isolation #305) » Fri May 24, 2013 2:52 pm

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Not defensive, I just have issues with people coming into page 99 of a game and trying to make an argument based on the first 10, acting like they're hot shit as they do.
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Post Post #2470 (isolation #306) » Fri May 24, 2013 2:53 pm

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But you go ahead and go back to work, I'm going to go run to the store to get some bananas for you.
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Post Post #2477 (isolation #307) » Fri May 24, 2013 3:09 pm

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In post 2474, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2473, Rena wrote:Makes sense.

Tell me about the non-Majiffy BB head.
stupider than the Jiffy head. That's all you need to know
brilliant beyond belief and I love her.
fify

eta: did you just call me a massive troll nacho huh huh HUH
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Post Post #2489 (isolation #308) » Fri May 24, 2013 4:31 pm

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In post 2488, Rena wrote:
In post 2469, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Not defensive, I just have issues with people coming into page 99 of a game and trying to make an argument based on the first 10, acting like they're hot shit as they do.
It's 4 days until deadline, what did you expect me to do? I hadn't been following the game, do you expect someone to read 100 pages in 4 days, analyse and build a case not to mention keep up with what was being said?
Yes.
In post 2488, Rena wrote:It doesn't happen like that.
Why not?
In post 2488, Rena wrote:I contemplated asking for a deadline extention but we're already at 100 pages, it would be anti-town to prolong the day any longer. By the end of night phase, I will be caught up.
So instead of stating that you will be caught up by daybreak d2, you decide to grab your dick and run into the room shouting
about large bats and satanic dope fiends drinking adrenaline out of pineal glands?
about something that happened in the first 1/10th of the game, with no knowledge whatsoever of the other 9/10ths, and thinking this was a
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thing to try to push a wagon on?

You should have stayed retired.

<<< So much for not being uncivil. >>>
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Post Post #2490 (isolation #309) » Fri May 24, 2013 4:41 pm

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Also I like how it took you an hour to think of something to say in response to that, despite having actively responded to other recent posts in between that time frame.

Nacho you may be wrong on your Fuzzy read.
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Post Post #2495 (isolation #310) » Fri May 24, 2013 5:08 pm

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In post 2492, Rena wrote:Listen, I don't give a shit which head you are, no player should be being a little bitch to other players this. You are ruining my enjoyment of the game.

Tldr: Stop being an asshole.
A+ deflection.

I don't care if your enjoyment is ruined. You're ruining the
spirit
of the game by coming in and playing based off of 1/10th of the game, and expecting players to bow down before you and say "oh well he's a replacement the poor guy we should cut him some slack". No. I'm going to hold you to a higher standard than that if you're going to try to push wagons, capice?
In post 2493, Cephrir wrote:I don't get what the point of playing in a hydra is if you're going to act like two separate players.
Bounce ideas and thoughts off each other legally. Our playstyles are very different, so they compliment each other.
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Post Post #2496 (isolation #311) » Fri May 24, 2013 5:10 pm

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By the by, I don't think demanding players RTFT before they try to influence gameplay is "being a little bitch" in any stretch of the imagination.
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Post Post #2502 (isolation #312) » Sat May 25, 2013 2:12 am

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In post 2500, Syryana wrote: Also, @the Mollie/Jiffy/Nero/Rena/whoever catfight going on up there, you lot need to stop it and vote Oversoul.
How about you vote obvscum Nero?
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Post Post #2511 (isolation #313) » Sat May 25, 2013 5:58 am

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In post 2498, Seanald wrote:thats generally the objective, sorry but this post came off as fake as mollie's tits. ohhhhh woulda been a good burn but I don't think the end of that statement is true.
I loled
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Post Post #2512 (isolation #314) » Sat May 25, 2013 6:08 am

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In post 2491, Nero Cain wrote:Nero calls Haylen scummy.

Mollie calls Nero scummy for calling Haylen scummy.


Jiffy is pretty much implying that he finds Haylen scummy.

This hydra dis is fucking annoying.
this is an outright lie cos that isn't why I am calling you scummy

link the post where I called you scummy for calling haylen scummy

you won't find one
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Post Post #2520 (isolation #315) » Sat May 25, 2013 7:45 am

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In post 2509, Desperado wrote:Someone asked you a page or two ago what your Nero case was and you basically said "look at this page!" I'm not seeing what you guys saw so in your own words please?
Did you try looking on the page I was referring to?

Fucking dolt.
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Post Post #2538 (isolation #316) » Sat May 25, 2013 9:59 am

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>>>>MAJIFFY DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS<<<<

In post 2529, Nero Cain wrote:Nero yells at Mollie


the first one wasn't me
On this site. in this setup. There is only an SK. Every other site is irrelevant. You called me an indie, I ask you why you called me one and then you got defensive and stupid and then Jiffy had to come in and clarify that on some silly site that not all indies are scum. Why you couldn’t have told me that is just mind boggling.
I did say that. and I thought I had seen an indie who was not an SK in new york before. but tbh I can't be bothered to check especially for you
And then scumcho comes in to tell me that you sk hunt which I’ve never fucking seen wich prob means that he’s scum ‘cause he expects me to know something when my experience with Mollie is like 1 game and 2 ongoings.
no, that is a misrep. what nacho said was that I hunt indies. I also special hunt too. it is how I organise the game on my spreadsheet. I special hunt to steer lynches away from then and soft support them. <----- protown motivation

What you said was fucking retarded.
no. it wasn't
What you did was immature as fuck.
erm...I stopped insulting you when a mod asked me too. you however, keep on going. I don't think I am the immature one here I mean least I know how to recogise a boundary when someone sets one.
Jiffy must be really good in the sack ‘cause he’s done fucked your brains out.


and this crosses the line. my sex life is none of your goddamn business
That's it Mollie!!! We're having a fucking conversation about you and your actions. Of course your name is going to be in it you conceited word I'd likely get modkilled for.
you mention my name even when we are not having a conversation. that is why I find your obsession creepy

you know nero, I have been trying to be nice to you and tease you in a friendly way instead of shitting up the game with some dumb fight. why do you insist on perpetuating it?

like what was the point of bringing up these just so you can insult me?

that is why I think you have a creepy fixation and I wish you would move on to someone else
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Post Post #2545 (isolation #317) » Sat May 25, 2013 10:56 am

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In post 2540, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2512, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 2491, Nero Cain wrote:Nero calls Haylen scummy.

Mollie calls Nero scummy for calling Haylen scummy.


Jiffy is pretty much implying that he finds Haylen scummy.

This hydra dis is fucking annoying.
this is an outright lie cos that isn't why I am calling you scummy

link the post where I called you scummy for calling haylen scummy

you won't find one
ok

Here’s your post calling me scum right after I call Haylen scum.
In post 2422, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 2418, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2411, Bulbazak wrote:How are long game days bad for the town? They provide a lot of information that we can use later
But with SO MUCH info, weeding out who is scum/town can be very difficult. + the town grows apathetic which greatly helps scum.
In post 2412, Rena wrote:Why is #2403 scummy again?
"Hey guys, its ok id we loose OS, no one is going to miss him."
Mislynching is never a good thing and you seem to be ok with that.
:eek:

okay nero is like confscum now
he is always willing to mislynch
with this post he is actually playing....protown.
NERO IS PROBABLY SCUM GUYS!!!!!
So I’m calling Haylen scum ‘cause I think her vote and last post stink.

you butt in and are all like “oh but guyz Nero is always willing to mislynch” Which is a fucking lie anyhow.

which pretty much is discrediting my Haylen attack.
In post 2425, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:okay so you are okay with lynching overlysoul but then you chastise rena for....being okay with lynching os?

and then here you reinforce the idea that my attack on Haylen was bad.
that is not why I called you scum. it was for you chastising someone and thinking that they were scummy for something that you yourself do. you later explained that you see a distinction <---- I don't but I can see where you might.

I haven't mentioned haylen at all
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Post Post #2547 (isolation #318) » Sat May 25, 2013 11:09 am

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In post 2546, Nero Cain wrote:but I don't do that. You and Angel tend to think that I do but I don't.

And you have mentioned Haylen. Haylen is Rena.
lol, I need to update my spreadsheet cos I cannot keep track of all the sub ins
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Post Post #2554 (isolation #319) » Sat May 25, 2013 11:55 am

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In post 2551, Nero Cain wrote:lol no. I mean both of ya'll have done some incredibly stupid things this game and I prefer to not play mental gymnastics and guess what alignment ya'll are.
except I have not done one stupid thing in this game nero. I push on people that tweaks my scumdar, I reach out and try to work with my town reads, I stay active in the game <------ these are all protown, not one of those things is stupid. your insistence that I am stupid and dragging to after fucking game only makes sense to me as scum in order to maintain consistency in your play and give you an easy target to focus and pick on all game cos if you are town then we are going to have to have a talk post game cos what you are doing is bordering on harassment especially when a mod has specifically told you to stop.
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Post Post #2565 (isolation #320) » Sat May 25, 2013 1:17 pm

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In post 2521, Desperado wrote:Yes Majiffy, I'm a "fucking dolt" because I interpreted "look at this page!" as "just look at what Nero has been saying!" and not "I already said it." Why didn't you just link that person in the first place?
You mean when I directly quoted the bit
asking for a case,
and I said
look at the last page,
you interpreted that as "Look at what Nero has been saying!"? How, pray tell, did you come up with that brilliant ascertainment? Was the inhalation of glue involved?

Yes, you're a "fucking dolt".
In post 2562, Oversoul wrote:Nero pocket scum read now
Then... vote... him...
Fuck it's like pulling teeth.

Anyone find it funny Nero has done something like double his posts and suddenly is "interested" in this game as soon as a wagon on him starts to appear? Anyone also find it funny that he's spending all of his posts attacking people for relatively nothing of importance, still isn't scumhunting, and
still hasn't addressed my argument for why he's scum?


Wise the fuck up, start voting Nero.
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Post Post #2574 (isolation #321) » Sat May 25, 2013 1:58 pm

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In post 2570, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2565, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Anyone find it funny Nero has done something like double his posts and suddenly is "interested" in this game as soon as a wagon on him starts to appear? Anyone also find it funny that he's spending all of his posts attacking people for relatively nothing of importance, still isn't scumhunting, and still hasn't addressed my argument for why he's scum?
lol I did the same in posh mafia and was town and you were in that game so I don't know why you are being stupid and lying once again. I'm doing plenty of scumhunting. Your argument is fucking retarded. Its basically "Nero is scum 'cause he thinks Haylen is scummy for cheerleading an OS lynch." So you are claiming Haylen's scumbuddy?
You weren't being nearly as much of a little lurksack. Also lol@selfmetadefense.

Where
are you doing plenty of scumhunting? I don't see a lick of it.

My argument has
nothing
to do with Haylen, so good job lying/misrepping/huffing glue.
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Post Post #2576 (isolation #322) » Sat May 25, 2013 2:13 pm

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Post Post #2584 (isolation #323) » Sat May 25, 2013 3:49 pm

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In post 2583, Kublai Khan wrote:How in the world can town make this assumption on Day 1?
Are you saying Nero isn't town? If so; why not vote him?
Are you saying Nero is dumbtown? If so; why so certain?

This question is just bad form whichever way you look at it.
In post 2583, Kublai Khan wrote: Why do you do shit like this? You were voting Oversoul, then you jumped off and are promoting a counter-wagon. All of this without any post by Oversoul? WTF?

If you don't think Oversoul is scum, then why did you vote for him at all?

If you say that this is a hydra miscommunication thing, then one of you seriously needs to drop this game because this sort of shit is ridiculous.
Pretty sure Mollie made the OS vote.
And let me think about this... hmm, ahh... no. You have a problem with it,
you
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Post Post #2585 (isolation #324) » Sat May 25, 2013 3:50 pm

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In post 2583, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 2469, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Not defensive, I just have issues with people coming into page 99 of a game and trying to make an argument based on the first 10, acting like they're hot shit as they do.
Why? The first ten pages of the game are where scum are most exposed. They haven't started figuring out how to manipulate people yet.
Keep reading the argument and maybe you'll understand.

What is it with you people and refusing to read shit?
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Post Post #2586 (isolation #325) » Sat May 25, 2013 3:51 pm

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Seriously go find another fucking game if you don't want to read. Might I suggest... Uno? No, those have big four letter words on the cards... Go fish? Might be difficult to figure out if you're holding the card someone else asked...

Oh! I know! Freeze tag in a busy intersection! Yes, go do that.
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Post Post #2590 (isolation #326) » Sat May 25, 2013 4:09 pm

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In post 2588, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 2584, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 2583, Kublai Khan wrote:How in the world can town make this assumption on Day 1?
Are you saying Nero isn't town? If so; why not vote him?
Are you saying Nero is dumbtown? If so; why so certain?

This question is just bad form whichever way you look at it.
PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT HOW ONLY SCUM OR DUMBTOWN TALK ABOUT MULTIBALL ON DAY 1.
Nice deflection.
Do you think Nero is town or not? Because your question can be read either one way or the other, and each one has it's own follow-up question attached to it.
In post 2588, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1887, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:also I guess this is multiball since thor said there will 3 to 4 nks we really need to pay attention to this cos it changes the dynamics
You never did get around to explaining this. Should I just mark it down as a dodge?

If you're going to be a shithead, then walk away from this game. You've consistently been the one player(s) that pisses off people in this game.
Mollie can answer her own statements.

If I have to piss people off to get them to read the game, then so be it. I won't play nice just because people want to be lazy and not read, then make stupid assumptions or statements they would know are stupid if they
had read
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Post Post #2591 (isolation #327) » Sat May 25, 2013 4:10 pm

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Good, I look forward to both of you leaving and being replaced by players that actually
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Post Post #2594 (isolation #328) » Sat May 25, 2013 4:30 pm

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okay let's all step back from here

kublai khan, give it 24 hours, there is more than one head in this hydra

rena plz do the same

seriously we need to drop the notch of this down
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Post Post #2604 (isolation #329) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:24 am

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In post 2597, Desperado wrote:
In post 2591, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Good, I look forward to both of you leaving and being replaced by players that actually
want to play the game
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No you're pretty much just being insufferable. You called me a fucking dolt because I misinterpreted something that you said. What's more likely...that you're being such a dick that multiple people have replaced out/have threatened to do so solely because of your attitude, or you're right and they're just pussies?
I am trying to diffuse the situ can you plz not throw gasoline on it tia
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Post Post #2605 (isolation #330) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:36 am

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In post 2599, Red Ryu wrote:B&B I'm not a mod on this site but dude you need to seriously chill out.
this has nothing to do with you and this looks like opportunistic scum noise in order to look look busy, concerned and productive.

welcome to my scum pile
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Post Post #2606 (isolation #331) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:46 am

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In post 2597, Desperado wrote:What's more likely...that you're being such a dick that multiple people have replaced out/have threatened to do so solely because of your attitude, or you're right and they're just pussies?
The latter. :wink:
In post 2600, Amethyst Kitty wrote:and Calm down Jiffy.
I'm perfectly calm, Dude.
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Post Post #2615 (isolation #332) » Sun May 26, 2013 5:31 am

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In post 2608, Red Ryu wrote:
In post 2605, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 2599, Red Ryu wrote:B&B I'm not a mod on this site but dude you need to seriously chill out.
this has nothing to do with you and this looks like opportunistic scum noise in order to look look busy, concerned and productive.

welcome to my scum pile
You're being a douche to others at times and need to shut up.

There is a line.
excuse me?

I have not said not one negative thing to anybody in this game ever since mastin said to cool it down
the first time
so why the fuck am I a douche? I have asked majiffy to dial it back cos I don't want to get force replaced since I spent a lot of time and energy in this game and there are a lot of players I like playing with or am interested in playing with plus its a mastin game.

and about lines. so let me get this straight. it is perfectly acceptable for nero to say
majiffy has fucked me into stupidity
? that it is perfectly acceptable that the personal details of my sex life are being used to put me down and discredit me? you are okay with that? seriously? not even if it hurts my feelings?

this whole thing does not even concern you, it is between majiffy, the players involved and mastin. you sliding in here to chime in when I have asked everyone to step back and take a breather so that there are no ill feelings or force replacements when it has nothing to do with you looks like a subtle form of buddying and fanning of the flames so that the situation worsens is scummy to the core. there is zero town motivation in that. if I was not so convinced nero was scum I would be voting for you right now.

I don't think I am the one who needs to stfu here
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Post Post #2649 (isolation #333) » Sun May 26, 2013 9:47 am

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In post 2616, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2615, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:it is perfectly acceptable for nero to say majiffy has fucked me into stupidity? that it is perfectly acceptable that the personal details of my sex life are being used to put me down and discredit me? you are okay with that? seriously? not even if it hurts my feelings?
it was obviously a joke. Its not even talking about your sex life. I don't see why it would hurt your feelings but that was never my intention.
I didn't realise that that changes things.

it doesn't change that I still think you are scum :P

eta: seanalderina, NO YOU ARE NOT!!! THAT LAST POST WAS SCUMMY AS HELL!!!
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Post Post #2653 (isolation #334) » Sun May 26, 2013 9:53 am

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In post 2625, Thor665 wrote:Well, at least you stuck with your second soft claim.

...eh, that post still feels fairly town and I think it flows with the logic of your fakeclaim gambit.

Yeah, let's lynch B&tB or Desperado.
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Post Post #2654 (isolation #335) » Sun May 26, 2013 9:56 am

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In post 2631, Red Ryu wrote:
In post 2615, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 2608, Red Ryu wrote:
In post 2605, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 2599, Red Ryu wrote:B&B I'm not a mod on this site but dude you need to seriously chill out.
this has nothing to do with you and this looks like opportunistic scum noise in order to look look busy, concerned and productive.

welcome to my scum pile
You're being a douche to others at times and need to shut up.

There is a line.
excuse me?

I have not said not one negative thing to anybody in this game ever since mastin said to cool it down
the first time
so why the fuck am I a douche? I have asked majiffy to dial it back cos I don't want to get force replaced since I spent a lot of time and energy in this game and there are a lot of players I like playing with or am interested in playing with plus its a mastin game.

and about lines. so let me get this straight. it is perfectly acceptable for nero to say
majiffy has fucked me into stupidity
? that it is perfectly acceptable that the personal details of my sex life are being used to put me down and discredit me? you are okay with that? seriously? not even if it hurts my feelings?

this whole thing does not even concern you, it is between majiffy, the players involved and mastin. you sliding in here to chime in when I have asked everyone to step back and take a breather so that there are no ill feelings or force replacements when it has nothing to do with you looks like a subtle form of buddying and fanning of the flames so that the situation worsens is scummy to the core. there is zero town motivation in that. if I was not so convinced nero was scum I would be voting for you right now.

I don't think I am the one who needs to stfu here
It's not, but retaliation is 90% of the time not needed.

It's not just him you're are doing it to either.
like this post literally makes no sense
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Post Post #2656 (isolation #336) » Sun May 26, 2013 10:05 am

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In post 2643, Thor665 wrote::neutral:

I'll give you the case based on softclaim point, we can move that to null - though I note that it still holds solid with the fakeclaim point, do you disagree?

Are you trying to convince me only scum would be silly enough to claim number of BPs?
If he's scum and BP, then he's just as foolish to claim it as he would be to do so as town.
If he's scum and not BP then it's a meaningless concern to me, and a actual concern to a anti-town killing role. Meh.
So...null tell, yes?

I'm not on board with it because I am not sure what he's scummy of other than lying about his role, and I've lied about my role as town plenty of times. I don't really think it's an inherent scumtell.
Is there a case on him besides him fakeclaiming and/or lying about his claim in some manner? Like, has he voted in ways that look scummy or something?
I've pointed out actual mental disconnects from town thought process on B&tB and all I get is everyone screaming about how town that slot is - so maybe I'm all gakked up, but I think my case is stronger there than this Oversoul one. It's a 'meh, derp player lynch' and if that's what we want to do let's at least admit it. Heck, i might support it if that was what we were lynching him for - but I don't think he looks scummy.
no your case is not stronger than the one you have on us. the one you have on is pathetic
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Post Post #2661 (isolation #337) » Sun May 26, 2013 10:08 am

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do you know what the rock solid case on you is? it is that you are arguing to win arguments through word play not to try to discern alignments <--------- pure unadulterated scum motivation right there, not town and definitely not town thor
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Post Post #2662 (isolation #338) » Sun May 26, 2013 10:17 am

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In post 2647, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2644, Kublai Khan wrote:Oh, I'm totally with you on the mental disconnects of that player slot. The problem remains that it's a hydra player who apparently does no communicating at all outside the thread. And they don't sign their posts so they can totally dodge comments that make no sense. I don't think I'll ever have a town-read on that slot, but they aren't scummier than Oversoul atm.
it's more than just that - the Mollie head is basically being caught in lies by me, and refusing to respond to the discussion (and refusing in scummy ways)
And the Majiffy head, when questioned on th epush, claims he's not reading any of that gak...while the Mollie head claims he's telling her to back off because her reasons are bad.
I fully understand and agree that they aren't communicating - but above and beyond that, they are not scumhunting, offering misreps, and distancing...from each other. If I just thought they were failing at being a hydra it's one thing, but they have logical inconsistancies that go beyond that, and I think it's showing them not being up to date on each others lies - not just being not up to date on each others reads.

Make sense?
no cos that isn't quite what happened and you know it

yes nacho I am going to vote os with you. if os flips scum I bet everybody who we had in our town pile are all town unless it is multi-ball. but still, I bet none of those players are on his team

for scum I am liking os, thor, nero, omtd, red ryu, maybe fuzzy slot, and probably a lurker
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Post Post #2665 (isolation #339) » Sun May 26, 2013 10:23 am

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In post 2659, Nachomamma8 wrote:Saw that, don't care.
Having a claim to explain previous behavior is scummy. Showing up to defend yourself but not doing shit else the whole game is scummy.
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if you think rena is town I will move her there too, but fuzzy kind of ruined that slot for her. I thought her reaction over majiffy's push was pretty townish so it I can do that.

rena majiffy was reaction testing you pretty hard cos you inherited a really scummy slot. he has told me what he got from it yet but I thought it looked townish. he has agreed to tone it down though
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Post Post #2666 (isolation #340) » Sun May 26, 2013 10:27 am

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In post 2664, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2662, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:for scum I am liking os, thor, nero, omtd, red ryu, maybe fuzzy slot, and probably a lurker
os, nero, red ryu, lurkers
os, nero, ryu, ak, lurkers and I still say thor belongs in there too. I am going to be really stubborn about this and support slaandy's push if I am still alive. it looks like os is giving a shout out for a nk if he flips scum
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Post Post #2667 (isolation #341) » Sun May 26, 2013 10:28 am

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eta: still think omtd should be in there too
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Post Post #2668 (isolation #342) » Sun May 26, 2013 10:33 am

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also khan is sooooo town if he is scum I will be shocked. also I saw star trek earlier and now every time I see his name I hear someone yell "KHAAAAAAAAN!!!!"

so he is no longer kubbles
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Post Post #2677 (isolation #343) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:14 pm

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you uh, have no case?
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Post Post #2680 (isolation #344) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:33 pm

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but you have dropped reasons that lacked a continuity as well? if that is a scumtell then it points to you as being scummy
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Post Post #2681 (isolation #345) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:33 pm

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eta: that was to ak
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Post Post #2685 (isolation #346) » Sun May 26, 2013 12:56 pm

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retracting my claws from you for now mara cos it is interesting what is going on between between the boys
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Post Post #2687 (isolation #347) » Sun May 26, 2013 1:11 pm

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who are you even talking to

don't let me down slaandy

be town

plz
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Post Post #2689 (isolation #348) » Sun May 26, 2013 1:44 pm

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Cephrir and Eddie remain scum, like I said long long ago in a page far far away.

Nero remains scum, like I said not too long ago on a page not too far away.

Thor is dumb.

Carry on.
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Post Post #2707 (isolation #349) » Sun May 26, 2013 7:59 pm

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In post 2706, Kerberos wrote:
In post 2698, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2694, Thor665 wrote::igmeou:
One day someone will explain to me what I do when I look town, and I will be amazed.
I like your push on B&B even though you're wrong, especially because you know Majiffy is in that hydra and you know you can get him on your side as scum to push where you want him to, but instead you're clashing with mollie like you always do. I like the way you handled the wagon on me; you picked up on the reasoning that actually was good reasoning, did research of your own, decided to dismiss it and go through the chore of arguing with Sland's stubborn ass. You didn't have to do that, and you could've easily took advantage of my vulnerability and cut me apart and you'd know I'd be hesitant in calling you scum after shit play in Mafiableh. I liked the progression of your townread on me; the hop onto Desp wagon was a little bit lazy, but follows with this being a slow game and you playing perpetual catchup. I like your perpetual catchup because it's honestly not a good position for you to take as scum; you'd want a larger hand in directing the lynches, especially if you were gonna white knight me. You haven't done the things necessary to take control of the town when you damn well could have by now. Your defense of Oversoul is also genuine although I think you're missing some easy things on that read (fucking seriously, "I'm playing bad because I am (role)"????), but it feels genuine. I also liked your note to yourself. That doesn't strike me as something you'd do as scum either.
nacho is scum :(
shit, sorry mastin. that was me

<<< <3 >>>
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Post Post #2708 (isolation #350) » Sun May 26, 2013 8:03 pm

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In post 2700, Red Ryu wrote:Can we stop making gog damn counter wagons to the 2-3 people have a mass amount of votes on, this is what causes a no lynch.

idgaf about the eddie case right now because he's not Nacho, Desp, or OS.

We need 13 within 2 days, so stop with the bullshit counter wagons and go with something that is actually viable. /drunk

Not trying to be a dick but we need to actually get a lynch and not waster 108 pages and not even lynch.
there is going to be a lynch no matter what. it is in the rules that at deadline if no lynch has occurred the person with the most votes on them will be lynched. if you actually read the game then you would know this

guys this is why red ryu and thor are scum. its like they are not even trying

<<< Actually, a no-lynch is possible. You just have to vote it and have it reach majority. >>>
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Post Post #2710 (isolation #351) » Sun May 26, 2013 9:00 pm

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it is the way you weave in and out of the thread while getting somewhat close but still holding people at arm's length. what you said to thor wasn't getting close and I don't think it is even accurate. normally as town your analytical posts resonate with me. I think you are scum not because I disagree with you about thor it is that you are whitewashing his complete and total distancing from the game and painting it in a way that never actually points to motivation. <----- hedging
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Post Post #2712 (isolation #352) » Sun May 26, 2013 9:33 pm

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In post 2711, Nachomamma8 wrote:I've never gotten close with Thor. I want to.
the closest I got to him was in the cult micros game where he told voided that I could not possibly be cult leader cos I would have recruited majiffy and him cos I had crushes on them both. <----best laugh I have had on this site really. what made it really funny is that voided actually bought it.

thor is the best reason to have a town silencer in a game if he is scum


*also in the post before this one it should have ended with "yet you still call him town".
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Post Post #2715 (isolation #353) » Sun May 26, 2013 11:32 pm

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In post 2704, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2699, Nachomamma8 wrote:But, taking this trip through your ISO reminded me that I'm unclear on a majority of your stances on players. Can I get your T-->S list?
I hate those and consider them dumb.
Here are just reads;

1. thezmon221 - null
2. CrashTextDummie [1] - townish leaning a touch null
3. Cephir - null leaning a touch scum
4. Nachomamma8 - townish
5. PeregrineV - Eh, I seem to recall DLG as being scummish - so, scummish.
6. Nero Cain - townish (very ish)
7. Bacde - null
8. EddieFenix - null
9. Bulbazak - town
11. Red Ryu - scummish
12. Syryana - null
13. Desperado - null
14. penguin_alien - null
15. Slandaar - scummy
16. Oversoul - townish
17. Seanald - scummy
18. ThAdmiral - town
19. Haylen - null
20. Kublai Khan - town
21. Amethyst Kitty (Malakittens+MS Marangal) - scummy
22. !BeautyAndTheBeast (Majiffy+pirate mollie) - scummy
23. Om the Destroyer (Human Destroyer+Om of the Nom) - town
24. ArcAngel9 [1] - town
also this list is absolutely terrible and if os turns out to be groupscum then ak is probably cleared and most of the peeps who stirred up multiball wifom are probably scum

*looks at nero*
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Post Post #2716 (isolation #354) » Sun May 26, 2013 11:34 pm

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In post 2713, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2712, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:thor is the best reason to have a town silencer in a game if he is scum


*also in the post before this one it should have ended with "yet you still call him town".
When someone is wily, it just makes me want to read them more.
I'm not going to let Thor be a blind spot for me because he's hard to read.
he has been wily the whole game why are you just now wanting to look at him
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Post Post #2718 (isolation #355) » Sun May 26, 2013 11:55 pm

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I have no idea what his beard looks like but I am pretty sure you are scum

I bet bulb is too
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Post Post #2738 (isolation #356) » Mon May 27, 2013 5:20 am

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In post 2725, Slandaar wrote:It appears that is Oversoul

Unfortunately he seems a little townish and derpy if the case were hes derpy I could get behind it and vote him but not now.

I guess I am going to leave my vote where it is because this completely makes sense with my previous post.
:lol:

I see what you did there

and he gets away with it!!!
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Post Post #2740 (isolation #357) » Mon May 27, 2013 5:28 am

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In post 2735, Nero Cain wrote:Mollie, what is your read on KK?
I see him as town

wait why are you asking me

also

VOTE: oversoul

don't think I didn't notice that self-preservation vote right there
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Post Post #2755 (isolation #358) » Mon May 27, 2013 12:51 pm

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In post 2744, Nero Cain wrote:What's the problem with me asking you? I thought I saw something that connected you and KK (but it was actually you and Thor) I think that if you were scum I'd get a better reaction from this head then Jiffy.
what did you think you saw?
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Post Post #2756 (isolation #359) » Mon May 27, 2013 1:05 pm

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In post 2745, Thor665 wrote:Why, do you find him scummy or something?
I keep waffling on him! I really want him to be town but I keep twitching with paranoia. twitch twitch twitch
For...what, the crime of semi-buddying a player you think is also scum?
You are scum - your reads lack any actual sense to them and you are frightened at the thought of explaining them.
Remember our last exchange when I called you out to explain multiple things?
Yeah...you dodged it all, you didn't even try, nor did you even at least suggest i was dumb to ask. You just acted as though it had never happened.
Because you are scum.
And town is too silly to notice.
1. no. I am reading him independently of you
2. no. I did explain them as best as I could. if you were reading the thread you would know.

oh and what is wrong with your reads? other than you saying a few pages back that you didn't read 20 something pages?

well there is no real thought or analysis behind them. take thad for instance. you have him as town when he should be null at best. tell me one significant thing he has said I bet you can't think of one can you.
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Post Post #2757 (isolation #360) » Mon May 27, 2013 1:07 pm

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In post 2746, Bacde wrote:Happy birthday Thor!
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Post Post #2760 (isolation #361) » Mon May 27, 2013 1:15 pm

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In post 2751, Thor665 wrote:"Thor's actions are *absurdly* scummy.

...vote the guy who is the one Thor is clearly not protecting if we wish to presume Thor is scum and his actions are scummy.

I have no idea why more people don't have issues with you of the Mollie/Majiffy hydra.
cos they have read the thread

you know what you should totally be in the naughty chair right now cos you have scumtitude oozing out of every pore in your body spilling over into an ever enlarging puddle at your feet. you should go change your clothes or something
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Post Post #2761 (isolation #362) » Mon May 27, 2013 1:16 pm

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In post 2759, Thor665 wrote:Also, in other news, B&tB continues to dodge.
Town continues to think they're town.
Just saying.
ask me some questions thor. I answered your previous ones
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Post Post #2765 (isolation #363) » Mon May 27, 2013 1:48 pm

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In post 2762, Oversoul wrote:You didn't answer mine
I am sorry overlysoul it should be obvious that I want thor
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Post Post #2767 (isolation #364) » Mon May 27, 2013 1:55 pm

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I answered these:
Why, do you find him scummy or something?

For...what, the crime of semi-buddying a player you think is also scum?
but you are right I missed these:
Yes, because...what...I'm Oversoul's scumbuddy scared to bus him and set up an intent to random vote and then was scared when I realized it was my scumbuddy?
you could be. I once subbed into a game when my partner was L1 and yanked the votes off of him. I later got lynched in the game but my partner looked golden.
Is that your theory?
I am twirling around several in my mind.
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Post Post #2769 (isolation #365) » Mon May 27, 2013 2:23 pm

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In post 2768, Thor665 wrote:So you accuse me of something - I offer a dismissive reply - and your answer is "well...I'm working on multiple potential theories"

Yeah?

Name some others. I'd love to hear the other Thor=scum for that action theories.

Also, if you want to look back and answer some of my other questions, that would also be sexy.
how about you ask them again thor if you want them that badly. re-ask the ones that you feel that I did not answer. I am pretty sure I did though

another theory is that it is multi-ball

another theory could be that os is actually town
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Post Post #2773 (isolation #366) » Mon May 27, 2013 2:51 pm

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In post 2770, Thor665 wrote:If it's multiball then how am I scummy for not being willing to vote him - what, he's scum from the other team and I'm scared to make that lynch happen because...um...wait...how is this scummy?
And, lso, again, if he's town, how would it be scummy for me to not want to lynch him, when the entire *concept* of what you're saying I'm doing is scummy is based on the idea I was trying to easily slide my vote onto someone.

Y'know, both of those reasons actually suggest what I did is NOT scummy, right?


Maybe I will re-ask them.
Or I'll just lord along claiming they make you look like scum for not answering.
One or the other.

Explain your alternate theories though - I'm excited now.
One day town will start reading what you're posting, and then you're in trouble.
erm, no
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Post Post #2776 (isolation #367) » Mon May 27, 2013 3:25 pm

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In post 2771, Thor665 wrote:Aw, who am I kidding?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p4966508
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p4985183
And also when I asked you why my reads were so terrible it needed generic mention with no explanation nor actual purpose behind saying it was terrible. I know it was just a generic attack to scream 'scum' but, y'know, you're supposed to fake making it look like legit scumhunting.

I wouldn't mind seeing, specifically, the hypocrisy question, the reads attack, and the refutation of my case via 'that's not what happened' all explained and answered as the most important questions of the lot.
But I'm sure you answered ALL of them already, so just. y'know, answer via quotes of your previous answers.
yeah neither of those posts interested me

/scumtell

it isn't dodging the questions it is me blatantly avoiding going 1 on 1 with you cos I can't. I am not interested in a discussion that will only end in futility on my end cos I can't out talk you. here is the thing: you know perfectly well that I don't always play logically I am more of a rhythm and gut player. I can grasp how people think and spot inconsistencies but whether or not their reasoning matches with how they normally think.

I know my strengths and I know my weaknesses and making good arguments is not always one of them. it is one of the reasons why I try to find town and work with town.

you are not making sense as in you are nitpicking arguments in a way that does not point to you actually trying to discern alignments and that is scum motivation not town motivation. if you are town then show me you are town motivation cos I am simply not seeing it. all you are doing is running around screaming that slaandy and I are scum which is pretty convenient cos we are the only ones fosing you.
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Post Post #2778 (isolation #368) » Mon May 27, 2013 3:31 pm

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In post 2774, Thor665 wrote:Oh - explain my scum motivation in those instances then?
cos if it is multi-ball it might be a wave

if he is town then you would want to distance yourself from os cos you know his alignment. the desperado lynch reeks IMO and you are not even looking at it. did you look at his posts? I see town flail not scum flail show me where you see scum flail
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Post Post #2781 (isolation #369) » Mon May 27, 2013 3:40 pm

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In post 2775, Thor665 wrote:Because clearly it was scummy of me to come in and set myself up to vote someone who *YOU'RE SAYING I'M NOT ALIGNED WITH* and then...wimping out of doing it because...I'm scum and don't want to follow through on the setup I just setup...because...yes...that's how I play scum...I set myself up to vote someone and then, when I realize I will have to vote someone I'm not scum with I get scared and don't want to do it, because scum Thor *hates* having to vote people he's not aligned with. That's his scum meta, don't'cha'know?
lol

wat

I mean you are like a little crab and attacking my points so sideways it is not funny

you didn't set up either of the lynches that you placed your votes on so I really have no idea what you are even talking about here
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Post Post #2784 (isolation #370) » Mon May 27, 2013 4:38 pm

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Thor, why are you spamming this game trying to get a slot lynched that clearly isn't going to happen today?

Go make yourself useful and work out some other reads.
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Post Post #2785 (isolation #371) » Mon May 27, 2013 4:40 pm

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You're not even voting us?! What the fuck are you doing, Thor? Seriously.
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Post Post #2786 (isolation #372) » Mon May 27, 2013 4:55 pm

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In post 2782, Thor665 wrote:So...when you said I was hypocritical, and I said 'no I wasn't' you didn't want to point out my hypocrisy because I would be able to out talk you and you're not really logical.
I think I did point it out. that wasn't one of the questions that you are accusing me of dodging.
...isn't that just admitting...that, basically, you lied about there being hypocrisy from me?
no
Also, when you say that 'isn't how something happened' and I say 'how did it happen?' you don't answer, again, not because facts were twisted by me, but because you fear the word war with me.
I did not want to get into a word war or wot war with you. it isn't about "fear" it is about not wanting to engage with you in that way when where nitpicking and semantics are fruitless. this is an example of you assigning a feeling that I have where it doesn't belong. if you removed the feeling of "fear" (which you are assigning) where is the scum motivation in that?
Again, this should be a *factual* thing on your side, so it's not about a word war, it's about pointing out what happened.
And you don't want to do that...
And you think I'm *nitpicking* when I catch you saying stuff that can't be supported and calling you on it.
And your defense from me calling you on your lies is not to defend your lies because *I'm* so darn clever with words.
:neutral:
Are you serious here?
Like, you can't point out the hypocrisy I did because...I will...what, talk the universe into not noticing it's hypocrisy?
I haven't "lied". you have yet to point to an actual "lie"
Bullsmurf.
You're scum.
nope. but I seem to be what scum often thinks as an easy target
Point to either of you FoSing me *before* I called you scum.
That would amuse me.
I don't think it happened in either case.
Or...wait, will this question bore you because I can out-talk reality?
I will go look for the post cos I am pretty sure I fosed you first cos oh hai I am paying attention to the game but yes you can out-talk people out of reality I have seen you do it.
A wave?
yes
And...distancing...and I will choose to set myself up to vote someone, and then distance from it when i realize I set myself up to vote town...
Could you explain that one a bit more, why set myself up for the vote and then decide not to do it when i realize *gasp* I'll vote town!?!
still not knowing what you are talking about here cos you are the one who is using the argument that you set yourself up. I didn't say that you did
Also, I don't really give a fig about the Desperado 'case' I don't have one and am mostly bandwagoning for lulz and because I think it's the best counterwagon. He gut pinged for me a bit with his Nacho push, and that's decent enough for me considering my read on OS.
Where do you see town flail specifically? I didn't even notice flail, personally.
how about you iso him thor. do your own work. cos you have stated in this game that you are not even paying attention
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Post Post #2788 (isolation #373) » Mon May 27, 2013 5:03 pm

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In post 603, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 599, Thor665 wrote:I'm back on page 12 and will continue to kind of suck for a while yet as long as posting continues at this pace.
Sorry, but my current work situation is really only allowing me 1-3 pages a night, tops, and at the moment you're all posting faster than that.
I will have time to catch up on the weekends and active participate then, until that point you'll get messages sent into the future from me.

I'm currently back in the OS push and massclaim discussion.
I feel like I'm in a game with Pie again.

I'd be fine with massclaim (though I suspect that discusiion has probably died long ago as invariably the suggestion is talked about at length and then never followed through on.)
I'm...okay with the OS push, will be curious to see where it goes (if anywhere). I certainly agree his claim is totally derpy and skeevy. I'm not sure that I buy it as a scum strategy though, and frankly lean town on him for it and dislike the current push insomuch as I think it's scum driven (I like it insomuch as it's a decent sized push)
I'd still kinda like to run up Red Ryu and am in favor of whoever it was that was pushing on him (Nacho or Om, I forget...though frankly I'm content to buddy both at the current moment.)
I could buy the B&B = scum case as they don't look shingingly town to me...but the current case seems to be based around buddying me and;
1. Doesn't everyone ;)
and, more importantly
2. B&B is comprised of two players who most assuredly would tend to do that to me regardless of alignment...so...?

I consider it 'meh'.

That's about all that seems to be worth discussing thus far.
Normally I'd slap out a vote for lulz, but I'm too lazy to look up the vote count and on the off chance a flash wagon formed I don't want to push it too far without knowing that I am.
Tomorrow I'll read a few more pages.
there was a vc on this page

too lazy to scroll up?

I am only not pouncing on you cos of majiffy
this is where you first showed up on my scumdar. and I pushed you after this to get a stronger read and then you started fosing me shortly after
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Post Post #2790 (isolation #374) » Mon May 27, 2013 5:10 pm

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In post 2787, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2783, Thor665 wrote:Also, it just occured to me - you literally just admitted to not answering my questions *as a strategy to deal with ScumThor*
When LITERALLY MOMENTS AGO you claimed you'd answered everything from me and acted bewildered that I thought you hadn't.

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I am interested in seeing a rebuttal to this because I don't think there is one.
I thought I had answered everything. and then I went back to make sure and realised I hadn't. and then I remembered why I didn't answer those questions in the first place cos I knew where it would lead. at least I think I had the same thought cos when I read those posts it looked like scumthor nitpicking and not townthor trying to discern alignment.
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Post Post #2791 (isolation #375) » Mon May 27, 2013 5:41 pm

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what does your scum list look like thor?
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