NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

[Nero Cain]

vote:TUA

[Nero Cain]

vote:B&TB

vote:OS

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[Nero Cain]

VOTE:OS

[Nero Cain]

vote:thor

[Nero Cain]

vote:Red Ryu?

[Nero Cain]

vote:OS

[Nero Cain]

vote:OS

[Nero Cain]

vote:B&TB:)

vote:OS:)

[Nero Cain]

votefacepalm

[Nero Cain]

vote:Fenix
vote:Fenix
vote:Fenix
vote:Fenix

[Nero Cain]

vote:Fenix
vote:Fenix
vote:Fenix
vote:Fenix

[Nero Cain]

Nero, please stop pretending to have a PR in a normal game.

This is a normal game?!?

[Nero Cain]

no he's still scum just for another reason

[Nero Cain]

no he's still scum just for another reason

[Nero Cain]

this makes me laugh, debating weather or not I have a PR

[Nero Cain]

leave the stupid fruit alone, Nero is town and even derp as fuck Mollie knows it. Now lets all kill Fenix.

[Nero Cain]

HAI MOLLIE!!!

What do you mean what gives, Fuzzy?

[Nero Cain]

I mean what gives with the constant voting/unvoting?

*blank stare*

[Nero Cain]

leave the stupid fruit alone, Nero is town and even derp as fuck Mollie knows it. Now lets all kill Fenix.

Lol. Let's dance, Baby boy.

ok, why did your catchup post contain nothing but a vote for B&TB?

[Nero Cain]

Yeah, sorry to burst your bubble but I don't think that you put me "under a microscope". Obviously I was trolling and faking a PR so that's why I wasn't talking.

Tell me why you think B&TB is scum.

[Nero Cain]

yea, that reason sucks but you're still a freshman and I could see that coming from newtown. Welp, back to OS.

vote:OS

But I also echo Nacho here, if OS flips scum then you need death.

[Nero Cain]

yea, that reason sucks but you're still a freshman and I could see that coming from newtown. Welp, back to OS.

vote:OS

But I also echo Nacho here, if OS flips scum then you need death.

[Nero Cain]

RYU defending OS hard here...

[Nero Cain]

I am because lynching him for just claiming informed townie is not something I will support.

If he has done something scummy, no one has shown it.

If he's town then I doubt he's actually an informed townie.

It would be a claim easy for scum to fake.

+ he's being a huge douche in waving off my vote by claiming I have some herp-a-derp vendetta.

[Nero Cain]

I am because lynching him for just claiming informed townie is not something I will support.

If he has done something scummy, no one has shown it.

If he's town then I doubt he's actually an informed townie.

It would be a claim easy for scum to fake.

+ he's being a huge douche in waving off my vote by claiming I have some herp-a-derp vendetta.

[Nero Cain]

I'm an under

<<< No, you're not an underachiever. You're an

underarchiver

underachiver, just like me. (Though I am ALSO an underachiever. ) >>>

[Nero Cain]

IDK...lynching Arc would be a total utility lynch.

[Nero Cain]

god you read as indie

god, I hate it when use the jargon of whatever site you crawled out of.

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[Nero Cain]

But what's Indie supposed to mean?

[Nero Cain]

Tell me why do I read as independent as opposed to scum? Can't hunt your own team?

[Nero Cain]

and by scum I of course mean mafia.

[Nero Cain]

hey look!! A deflection.

[Nero Cain]

just to help out Mollie 'cause technically 3rd party are still scum and even though it was pretty apparent that I was referring to the mafia in 510 but I wanted to make that crystal for her.

Note to self: OS doesn't comment on Mollie's huge deflect

[Nero Cain]

So you think Mollie is sk hunting?

[Nero Cain]

Pedit: potentially, although I think the fact that you wanted to set the record completely straight is a little odd

odder than her specifically calling me something that's more likely to come from mafia then town?!?

If you two are scum I'm going to have a fucking field day.

[Nero Cain]

Pretty annoyed right now that Mollie ain't answering my question and OS trying to defend Mollie + flip this into something its not

[Nero Cain]

hello kitty, what do you think about the mollie + OS vs. Nero and Despo bickering on the last page?

[Nero Cain]

I'm not scum Nero and you continue to show your inability to read me

Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

[Nero Cain]

I'm not scum Nero and you continue to show your inability to read me

Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

Fair enough but it is annoying and ruins my enjoyment when I have a player who always calls me scum regardless of whether or not I am scum and I just wanted to tell you that :/

Except I don't. You just always seem scummy and derpy to me. Maybe you do it on purpose, I don't know and I don't care.

In

this

game you've claimed a role that would be easy to fake. And I really really hate the way you light defended Mollie after she did something that I feel is incredibly scummy or derpy or a slight mixture of both only to light attack me. But no one seems to care about what Mollie did so maybe everyone just thinks its normal Mollie horribleness, idk.

[Nero Cain]

Nero, that point was pretty stupid.

???????????

Mollie called me 3rd party.
I asked why I read specifically as third party.
Mollie deflects away and ad homs instead of answering a simple fucking question.
I point out said deflection.

Why is this a bad/stupid point, Nacho?

[Nero Cain]

So Mollie, why did you call me a 3rd party?

[Nero Cain]

ok...I'm still not getting it....why 3rd pary instead of teamscum?

[Nero Cain]

So Mollie, why did you call me a 3rd party?

Now I ask why you care about her specific reasoning as to why you are a third party.

The scumtell should be that she's looking for third party, not that you're checking for valid reasoning or not.

Hence why I was asking.

[Nero Cain]

b/c if she didn't have a decent reason then that means she's sk hunting.

[Nero Cain]

I mean really, its like the first thing anyone would do is ask why a player said that. Bcade is probs right that Nacho is scum.

[Nero Cain]

sure

vote:Nacho

'cause Nacho is scum, why are you not voting him, Thor?

[Nero Cain]

I mean really, its like the first thing anyone would do is ask why a player said that. Bcade is probs right that Nacho is scum.

when people call me third party, i call them scum unless they have a penchant for the thing, like most normal people.

So you're saying that you would think a player was scum if they called you the sk without a strong/good reasoning. Wich is exactly what I said a few posts ago....

b/c if she didn't have a decent reason then that means she's sk hunting.

My head hurts. This whole thing is mind boggling dumb but from Mollie and OS that's acceptable from Nacho its just scum piling on.

[Nero Cain]

Mollie sheeping me?!? It really is the apocalypse!

[Nero Cain]

That vote looks kinda suspicious.....I wanted Nacho to be scum so bad.

[Nero Cain]

Not true. On her home site, most indies have town-friendly wincons. Ergo indies aren't necessarily scum.

What does that site have anything to do with this site?

[Nero Cain]

yuck. Other than myself all the town reads blow. AK with a town lean?

[Nero Cain]

Who, besides me, thinks Angel is obsessed with me?

Everyone here knows I'm town babe. Help me kill scumNacho.

[Nero Cain]

pfft. Nacho badgering mover asking why Mollie called me an "indie" is just retarded and scummy. That's all that needs to be said.

[Nero Cain]

I was actually wondering why nero is not talking about one of his utility craps.. Thanks.. but i have no interest being your PL target today.

I wasn't suggesting that we lynch you. I was just saying that if we did then you'd be a utility a lynch.

Though if Angel does flip scum I'd be very very tempted to lynch B&TB for lukewarmly calling me scum and might be a chainsaw.

[Nero Cain]

Why is Slandaar not voting scumNacho?

[Nero Cain]

that question is simple. The raptors are going to take over the earth and my avi is an homage to the eventual overlords. Instead of boats the will ride on sharks in the water and instead of planes they will ride huge ass genetically modified bats. RPG's won't be the only weapons they use but, much like terrorists, they enjoy using them and when they aren't at war they are used as a mating signal. The bigger the explosion the more suitable of mate.

[Nero Cain]

We are not playing on your homesite you stupid ditz. And that's all you had to say in the first place. I'm not the only one that you interpreted it as you calling me third party scum.

[Nero Cain]

bulb, would you stop ignoring what's going on between me, Mollie, Despo, and Nacho. Why no comment?

[Nero Cain]

We are not playing on your homesite you stupid ditz. And that's all you had to say in the first place. I'm not the only one that you interpreted it as you calling me third party scum.

do you think that you can somehow manage to not be a colossal douchebag in a game? please? I didn't call you scum you dummy you came to that erroneous conclusion all on your own. an intelligent person would probably have asked, "what do you mean by that?" but no, its you and god forbid you do anything except bitch and moan in a game

But what's Indie supposed to mean?

independent wc

Here you accuse me of having a win con independent of the both town and mafia, which would mean you were accusing me as scum like a SK or even a survivor. Both Nacho and OS also came to that conclusion.

Tell me why do I read as independent as opposed to scum?

Here I asked why I read as independent which totally blows your "he didn't ask" argument out of the water. This would have also been an appropriate time to clarify that you weren't calling me scum.

I also reject your claims that I'm being a "colossal douche" and "bitching and moaning". You said something stupid, I asked you about it, you deflected away from said question. Asking you said question and you failing to provide a decent explanation and me wanting to shoot you in the face isn't bitching or moaning, its scumhunting. I don't really like the fact that Jiffy runs in and says that on your homesite not al indies are scum...why you couldn't state that last night, I don't know.

[Nero Cain]

I'll tell you what I don't like. You're vote was the 4th vote on Nacho. Now of course you can easily saw "oh well we were behind and didn't know there was a nacho wagon." but its incredibly convenient me thinks.

[Nero Cain]

but I want to kill scum Nacho or atleast utility lynch the horrible OS and B&TB slots.

[Nero Cain]

I'll read Bulb more in detail later but my gut reaction says town, B&TB might be town 'cause Maj prob would put a leash on scummy/dumb as fuck Mollie. Ditto for OS, seems like he's more careful as scum. Though either way I don't really care about their alignments and I think its in the best intrest of the town to get rid of them. I think Nacho is scum.

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[Nero Cain]

Mollie,

you had a chance to clarify that you weren't calling me scum but didn't.
you've been here nearly a year and show no signs of even giving a shit about how mafia is played here.

For the love of anything holy, please shut the fuck up.

[Nero Cain]

dear nero,

stop being a colossal douchebag and focus on the game cos otherwise you are putting on the hypocritical tighty whities cos what you are doing is anti-town right now if you are indeed town which I am leaning on

for the love anything holy, leave me the fuck alone

Except what I was asking about was completely game relevant. There was no need for you to get annoyingly self righteous and act like a little kid.

I don't care if you are town, I'm still gonna fucking shoot you.

[Nero Cain]

BTW guys, OM is a total 3rd party

[Nero Cain]

yuck. I have a nulltown from you and my company is with Nacho, AK and Fenix? I fucking hate you, Cephir.

[Nero Cain]

@Nero:
4/13 - I don't see it as a huge wagon. You are flipping out over stupid shit. You are trying to sling mud yet you don't call out Bacade for his 5th vote ON Nacho?

I'm pretty sure that Bcade was actually like the first to vote Nacho + while no scum tell is 100% the 3rd/4th votes are a slight scumtell.

Whats this point that Mollie has made? All I see is Mollie yelling and screaming like an immature newbie.

[Nero Cain]

Tbh, Eddie, I don't have anything but gut reads atm.

Gut says B&B is town.
Gut says AK is town.

Scum is probably in the inactive.

Ok. It's a start with B&B and AK. But, if you don't mind, I'd like a short/full list please.

Did I join a newbie game by accident?

[Nero Cain]

You act like contradictions are a scumtell.

They can be though.

[Nero Cain]

dear nero,

stop being a colossal douchebag and focus on the game cos otherwise you are putting on the hypocritical tighty whities cos what you are doing is anti-town right now if you are indeed town which I am leaning on

for the love anything holy, leave me the fuck alone

Except what I was asking about was completely game relevant. There was no need for you to get annoyingly self righteous and act like a little kid.

I don't care if you are town, I'm still gonna fucking shoot you.

and this is why you read as indie. you don't care if you fuck over town

I would think scum would be less blatant about but hai there is always a lesson to be learned

I'm going to be the bigger person here. I putting you on my foes list 'cause A.) Trying to have a intelligent discussion with you is next to impossible and B.) the chance that you or Jiffy say anything useful this game is slim to none.

[Nero Cain]

OM, bulb. shutup. lets lynch Nacho scum.

[Nero Cain]

BTW guys, OM is a total 3rd party

Why don't you just say SK here?

This post seems odd given you jumped all over Mollie for calling you indie.

but I wasn't calling him scum!!!

[Nero Cain]

BTW guys, OM is a total 3rd party

Why don't you just say SK here?

This post seems odd given you jumped all over Mollie for calling you indie.

but I wasn't calling him scum!!!

You're gonna have to walk me through this one Nero because in a normal game, 3rd parties are always SKs. There is no middle ground on that.
Were you trying to insult them or was this a legitimate call out?

completely legit! Not all 3rd parties are scum ya know?

[Nero Cain]

NOPE!!! On other sites there are third parties that are NOT scum.

[Nero Cain]

and I think OM is playing like 3rd party.

[Nero Cain]

please stop letting nero troll you, jesus

I am a gullible person naturally

It was funny I thought, maybe a bit annoying, idk. But I also wanted to hammer in the point that what Mollie did is fucking retarded since you two seem to think it wasn't.

[Nero Cain]

@Nero:
4/13 - I don't see it as a huge wagon. You are flipping out over stupid shit. You are trying to sling mud yet you don't call out Bacade for his 5th vote ON Nacho?

I'm pretty sure that Bcade was actually like the first to vote Nacho + while no scum tell is 100% the 3rd/4th votes are a slight scumtell.

Whats this point that Mollie has made? All I see is Mollie yelling and screaming like an immature newbie.

Bacde was actually the second vote on Nacho but still...

Anyways, I want you to respond to this AK

[Nero Cain]

Can AK be her buddy?

[Nero Cain]

no. I'm not gonna vote for Nacho. Not now or ever.

[Nero Cain]

no. I'm not gonna vote for Nacho. Not now or ever.

why?

like I'm going to follow a silly fruit.

no. I'm not gonna vote for Nacho. Not now or ever.

Cop this guy.

Why?

[Nero Cain]

retract those claws, Mala.

[Nero Cain]

pfft. Nacho badgering mover asking why Mollie called me an "indie" is just retarded and scummy. That's all that needs to be said.

Why?

'cause its stupid. Mollie said something stupid and scummy, I asked about it. That's a pretty common reaction and for you to somehow think its scummy for me to ask Mollie why she said that, well you're prob scum.

Mala says that Mollie caught something interesting that I had personally over looked. I do agree with her in that, it's a good point and it has to do with the entire Indie battle you had with her

This looks like nothing but strongly worded bullshit. Why were you needlessly vague here?

Also can I ask you.. Your 3/4 vote on a wagon is for what size game? Meaning how many players and how accurate is it? I think you are just trying to find any reason to say we are scum and to see what sticks.

Its like any other "tell". Its listed on the wiki and from my experience in large games shows that scum still do happen to land on the 3rd vote vote.

Also Nero..

You state that the 3rd or 4th vote on wagon is usually scum. You tryin to indirectly state you are scum? You were the 3rd vote on two wagons so far.

~ Mala

Well isn't it obvious that I'm a 4th party surviving jester?

possible IIOA from Ryu in 864.

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[Nero Cain]

Nero:

How, theoretically speaking, are we Nacho's partner? That's if Nacho flips scum..

Also answer my damn question.

~Mala

'cause your role pm says so.

Its possible that your distancing yourself.
Its also possible that Nacho is town and that you are scum.

[Nero Cain]

no. I'm not gonna vote for Nacho. Not now or ever.

why?

like I'm going to follow a silly fruit.

no. I'm not gonna vote for Nacho. Not now or ever.

Cop this guy.

Why?

You implied one of three things.

1. Dumb town who refuses to look into a read.
2. you have some kind form of PR that is linked with him.
3. You are scum with him.

I am heavily worried about this if you play in a way that makes you not easy to determine alignment, if you play anti-town, refusing to look into reads on a play, then I have to assume you are a solid candidate to be scum and should be copped.

You do know that I'm already voting Nacho, right?

[Nero Cain]

Utility lynch B&B and OS? What the absolute fuck? #735

Do you even know what a utility lynch is?

[Nero Cain]

So now I'm not sane.

[Nero Cain]

b/c you're picking on a ESL. You're such a meany.

[Nero Cain]

prod dodge

<<< Now they're just taunting me. >_< >>>

[Nero Cain]

you have a strong town read on mala?

[Nero Cain]

you guys. Thor is being kinda lurky.

[Nero Cain]

you guy!!! Nacho is caught scum and avoiding the thread. Why is he not dead yet?

[Nero Cain]

lol @ Bacde not knowing I was voting Nacho

[Nero Cain]

Thor gets to ride in my null leaning scum pile for a bit.

[Nero Cain]

Mala says that Mollie caught something interesting that I had personally over looked. I do agree with her in that, it's a good point and it has to do with the entire Indie battle you had with her

This looks like nothing but strongly worded bullshit. Why were you needlessly vague here?

[Nero Cain]

Cuz

~Mara

'cause you are scum and being hard to get along with? Ok, I'll accept that answer.

[Nero Cain]

She was outted as scum pages ago. Just ignore them.

[Nero Cain]

What do you think of B&TB, fruit?

[Nero Cain]

WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK.

[Nero Cain]

Nero:

Nacho badgering mover asking why Mollie called me an "indie" is just retarded and scummy.

you questioned reasoning and legitimate reasoning for someone being a third party doesn't change the fact that they are looking for third party
but you apparently still can't see that

You think Mollie was looking for third party and you are attacking me?!?

fucking die scumcho

[Nero Cain]

Still no reason to attack me.

[Nero Cain]

Nacho's lack of posting is a problem. It severely diminishes the information to be gleaned from his wagon if he flips town. It also weakens my town-read on him somewhat. Does Nacho lurk as scum? Does he avoid posting when under pressure? Show me this and I will reconsider my stance on him.

I'm relatively certain that in politics mafia I called Nacho out on ignoring that game and posting elsewhere much like she was doing yesterday.

That kitty hydra is town

You'll have to explain that.

[Nero Cain]

Still no reason to attack me.

Still no reason for her to attack you? No, it isn't. But it's what she does.

Not what was said. Though I'm sorry that you rolled a derpwad for a team mate.

[Nero Cain]

Also Nacho, if you think that I'm scummy for attacking dumb as rocks Mollie, what do you think of Thor who said he feels my questioning of Mollie was justified?


ok, Slandaar has claimed scum. This has been a very productive day.

[Nero Cain]

Don't want to talk about your buddy Thor?

[Nero Cain]

so nacho is going to be the lynch d1

No

and who else would we lynch?

[Nero Cain]

so nacho is going to be the lynch d1

No

and who else would we lynch?

Red Ryu is looking nice this time of year...

Really? I heard the weather was terrible and there's high crime. I'd ask my travel agent but I don't give a shit.

Please explain you're town read on Nacho.

[Nero Cain]

Nero Cain is trolling most of the time. Then he latched onto the third party thing, then he made fun of mollie, then he tried to bring as much attention to the situation as possible. It doesn't really seem like a particular strong scum strategy, but I sort of liked that he made an attempt to read the people he was pushing policy lynches on and is pushing a real life scumread instead of the people he generally finds scummy anyways. Town.

Well everyone with a brain already knows that I'm town anyways...I wouldn't call that an accurate description of my play. Mollie called me a SK, I asked why Mollie called me an SK. Instead of answering said question she gets stupidly self righteous. Now maybe being a moron is a towntell for Mollie but I neither care or want to waste time debating their alignment. And I do find it scummy and not pro-town for you to berate me over a valid line of questioning. What's even worse? You supposedly didn't have a scum read on me this whole time but were more than glad to argue with me.

I also wouldn't say thet I ever really "pushed" for policy lynches just that I wouldn't care if we utility lynched a few bozos.

[Nero Cain]

So we have Mollie call me a SK.
I ask why I read as SK.
Nacho attacks me for asking Mollie why.
Thor says that I'm justified in asking Mollie.
Thor defends Nacho.

Am I reading this right?

[Nero Cain]

So we have Mollie call me a SK.
I ask why I read as SK.
Nacho attacks me for asking Mollie why.
Thor says that I'm justified in asking Mollie.
Thor defends Nacho.

Am I reading this right?

Yes.

Now you're supposed to move beyond IIoA.

Well, do you think Mollie is scummy for sk hunting?

If yes, why is Nacho not scummy for defending Mollie?

If no, why did you think my line of questioning was constructive?

[Nero Cain]

AK shouldn't even sniff a town read unless you're going for the too dumb to be scum tell. Her and B&TB and Ed...just get rid of that whole very very likely town group and stick em in the "prob town group"

[Nero Cain]

Mac is getting replaced

[Nero Cain]

Posting a bunch of reads with detailed reasons is not scummy. It is, in fact, the opposite of scummy, unless the reasons are bad.

posting reads w/ reasons is a weak town tell at best

and coming from nacho its a null

yep. No scum would ever lay down and die.


Nacho, why were you arguing with me about questioning Mollie if you read me as town?

[Nero Cain]

and I have her as null. Not trying to be funny but she actually is null to me, hence why I said I'd be ok if we utility lynched her before lylo. Now if B&TB were to flip scum then I might consider an AA9 a scumbuddy.

[Nero Cain]

and I have her as null. Not trying to be funny but she actually is null to me, hence why I said I'd be ok if we utility lynched her before lylo. Now if B&TB were to flip scum then I might consider an AA9 a scumbuddy.

my gut tells me that pirate mollie is town

I agree with Cephir that her posts are depressingly town but I'll never like the idea of giving anyone a free pass based on too derpy to be scum but that's just me.

[Nero Cain]

you have a killing role? 'Cause I don't ever trust these "lets plan on vigging this player"

We lynch Mamma and you guys can have a bs vig.

[Nero Cain]

She always plays like this so she's null to me.

[Nero Cain]

Lay off or back off. Which ever one suits you better. How are we playing dumb? Go on enlighten me please. I'll be awaiting it. Why don't you try explaining to us why you think we are scum. Clearly everyone disagrees and that little argument helps no one.

So defensive.

I think ya'lls vote on Nacho was rather opportunistic. Nacho already had 3 votes on him. You laid down a 4th vote supposedly oblivious to the budding Nacho wagon, which is something that seems like it would be easy to fake. And then when I call you on it you minorly flip out and pull out the "hey look over there" defense by telling me that I should look at bcade.

In 844 you (and by you I mean your hydra) "Mala says that Mollie caught something interesting that I had personally over looked. I do agree with her in that, it's a good point and it has to do with the entire Indie battle you had with her"

Which I find needlessly vague. I see no reason for you (supposedly as town) and Mara to withhold what you "caught" and be sneaky and secretive.

AND THEN

I get this super cheeky evasive response from Mara in 1114.

Cuz

Which just makes my blood boil. This whole immature/snarky/defensive thing seems to be in vogue these days but I'll never ever like it and each time I see it from you or Mollie or Arc or whoever the fuck, I cry a lil' inside.

As for my read on you. I think your play has been pretty scummy. I don't think that

everyone

has a town read at you and those that do have it 'cause of meta. I have never played with Mala and my experience with Mara is limited so I'm willing to listen to other players that have more experience with ya'll and besides you are helping me kill Nachoscum so you get to ride in my null pile until I find out that this is multiball.

[Nero Cain]

Well, do you think Mollie is scummy for sk hunting?

If yes, why is Nacho not scummy for defending Mollie?

If no, why did you think my line of questioning was constructive?

I think you've proven she's a suboptimal scumhunter - but unless you want to tell me without a doubt that there's only one scum team in the game then I see it as a questionable tell that should be revisited more later.
That said, Mollie is scummy for other reasons now - vote her.

Because she is Schrodinger's scum, and also town defend scum.

It would be constructive regardless of my personal belief on the tell because you took a hard stance and pressed on it.

Again, why did you call me out on this?

meh, I thought what Mollie did was stupid and scummy.
I thought it was scummy of Nacho to attack me for questioning Mollie.
I would think that Nacho defending scum/bad town Mollie would make you wary of his slot.
I'm extremely paranoid and I think it's a possibility that you and Nacho could be scum taking opposite stances on the same argument.

[Nero Cain]

prod Nero Cain, guy is lurky as fuck

[Nero Cain]

naw, fuzzy hasn't been ignored. I's sheep that if I didn't want Nacho blood. What's your BS case?

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[Nero Cain]

oh Christ, we'll hit 100 pages before this day is over. Stupid 3 week deadline.

[Nero Cain]

Bacde, do you bus as scum?

[Nero Cain]

18/6? 16/8? Does it really matter? You two agree on 6. Lets kill the 6 first.

[Nero Cain]

OM can I get a link?

[Nero Cain]

you think they might be bussin?

[Nero Cain]

Well I like this new style wich is what is giving me some reservations about you being town but meh...I agree with you so w/e

[Nero Cain]

I don't even care if Sry is scum, I like her posting style a lot.

Has anyone here played with Bacde sum before? Does he bus?

[Nero Cain]

If I were scum, I'd kill B&TB (nudge, nudge scum)

[Nero Cain]

oh crap, I had gotten my hopes up that there was a modkill.

<<< Modkills are a last resort for when all other options have been expended. Bacde's actions did not warrant such extreme measures. >>>

[Nero Cain]

An Oversoul wagon!!!! Stop playing with my heart you guys.

Fuzzy is claiming to have only read 3 pages. Why can't we kill that?

[Nero Cain]

USER WAS MODKILLED FOR THIS POST.

vote:B&TB

[Nero Cain]

Great. A lurker!!!

v/la till Thursday

<<< Noted.
Also, double post deleted. >>>

[Nero Cain]

can someone give me a tl;dr of the last 30 pages?

[Nero Cain]

I'm skimming? ok, if I were skimming then I'd have no reason to ask for a tl;dr.

[Nero Cain]

vote:Nacho

[Nero Cain]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Oversoul

Le't do this.

Le't do this.

VOTE: Oversoul

Vote: Oversoul

K.

Unvote, Vote: Oversoul

....really all in one page right in a row, someone is scum here. I lean nacho/Cephrir most.

This, but its also likely multiball so OS could still be scum.

+ its OS and I'd love to lynch that.

[Nero Cain]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Oversoul

Le't do this.

Le't do this.

VOTE: Oversoul

Vote: Oversoul

K.

Unvote, Vote: Oversoul

....really all in one page right in a row, someone is scum here. I lean nacho/Cephrir most.

This, but its also likely multiball so OS could still be scum.

+ its OS and I'd love to lynch that.

[Nero Cain]

If I read correctly, that's L-1. Anybody who quickhammers is tomorrow's lynch. No exception.

Thread is already 97 pages long. Long game days are bad for the town. AND you're voting for OS so you believe he's scum...but you'd be upset with a hammer?

I INTEND TO HAMMER

So last chance to say anything.

[Nero Cain]

Haylen's 2403 kinda stinks

[Nero Cain]

ugh, she replaced Fuzzy. I'm down for killing that.

[Nero Cain]

How are long game days bad for the town? They provide a lot of information that we can use later

But with SO MUCH info, weeding out who is scum/town can be very difficult. + the town grows apathetic which greatly helps scum.

Why is #2403 scummy again?

"Hey guys, its ok id we loose OS, no one is going to miss him."

Mislynching is never a good thing and you seem to be ok with that.

[Nero Cain]

its scum driven but its prob MB so scum can still hunt.

also, THADscum would not surprise me in the least.

[Nero Cain]

How are long game days bad for the town? They provide a lot of information that we can use later

But with SO MUCH info, weeding out who is scum/town can be very difficult. + the town grows apathetic which greatly helps scum.

Why is #2403 scummy again?

"Hey guys, its ok id we loose OS, no one is going to miss him."

Mislynching is never a good thing and you seem to be ok with that.

he is always willing to mislynch

Since when? I'm always down to policy lynch derp players like you and OS but I've never ever been willingly ok with mislynching a player.

[Nero Cain]

the difference is that Rena made it sound like she has a town read on OS/that her scum read on OS is fake. Fucking read Mollie.

I'm always down to policy lynch derp players like you and OS but I've never ever been willingly ok with mislynching a player.

Does not compute.

but this guy is prob scum. policy lynch=//=intentionally try to mislynch a town player. I mean Mollie is dumb as rocks and knows that I defend my town reads but your post looks like scum piling on.

[Nero Cain]

So we're 1v1ing?

[Nero Cain]

OS really hasn't been that helpful, he's right on that point.

That being lynchworthy, I don't agree.

So we should spend more time talking and cluttering up the thread? no

[Nero Cain]

So you think I was bussing Nacho?

[Nero Cain]

So you think I was bussing Nacho?

didn't you say that it was probably multi-ball like 5 minutes ago?

except he just called a Nacho/Nero team you ditz.

[Nero Cain]

that's right. I'm busted.

[Nero Cain]

Ya'll hear that? Mollie volunteers to get lynched when I flip town.

[Nero Cain]

So when I flip town you are ok with your lynch, right?

[Nero Cain]

Saying "I'd like to policy/utility lynch this slot=//="I have a town read on this slot:

What derp Mollie was claiming is that I willingly try and lynch town reads, which I don't. I don't know if Mollie is scum and lying out her mouth to try and get me lynched or if she's just immture and wants me lynched 'cause I've joined the "Mollie is a terrible player" club but either way she's terrible.

I have never ever ever gone out of my way to get a town read lynched.

Even if I have a scum read on a player we are still possibly mislynching, so what, you think we should never lynch to avoid possibly mislynching?

[Nero Cain]

There's like 2 or 3 MD threads dedicated to policy lynching and I'm by far not the only player that thinks policy/utility lynching is good for the town.

I guess I could see sort of a similarity but there's still enough difference between the two. Being ok if a slot flips town to help the town and willingly mislynching are two different things.

Spoiler: <<< And Yet ANOTHER Incredibly Late Mod-edited-votecount >>>

Oversoul - 10 (Desperado, penguin_alien, Kublai Khan, Syryana, Nachomamma8, Cephrir, Bulbazak, thezmon221, Haylen, PeregrineV)

Nachomamma8 - 3 (Seanald, CrashTextDummie, Nero Cain)

Desperado - 3 (ArcAngel9, Thor665, Amethyst Kitty)
Nero Cain - 2 (BeautyAndTheBeast, Bacde)
Haylen - 1 (Oversoul)
penguin_alien - 2 (Red Ryu, Om the Destroyer)
Thor665 - 1 (Slandaar)

Not Voting - 2 (ThAdmiral, EddieFenix)

With

24

alive, it took

13

to lynch!
Oversoul was at L-3!

[Nero Cain]

WTF?

are we seriously Lynching OS? that dude is town as fuck.

tomorrow, we get scum.

~Mara

Who's scum?

[Nero Cain]

Makes sense.

Tell me about the non-Majiffy BB head.

stupider than the Jiffy head. That's all you need to know.

[Nero Cain]

Nero calls Haylen scummy.

Mollie calls Nero scummy for calling Haylen scummy.

Jiffy is pretty much implying that he finds Haylen scummy.

This hydra dis is fucking annoying.

[Nero Cain]

Is this game even being moderated? (VC).

no. I'll do vc's if you gimmie a 2 shot killing power.

[Nero Cain]

it was an obvious joke you silly fruit.

[Nero Cain]

Nero yells at Mollie

Spoiler:

Bacde help me lynch Cephrir and I'll help you lynch Nacho tomorrow.

??????????????

but Nacho has more support so why try to go against the grain if you want to lynch Nacho the next day?

So we have Mollie call me a SK.

I ask why I read as SK.

Nacho attacks me for asking Mollie why.

Thor says that I'm justified in asking Mollie.

Thor defends Nacho.

Am I reading this right?

I did not call you an SK you dummy. I said you read as indie.

I will break this down for you in a way maybe you can understand;

not all indies are SKs

. <------ do you think you can grasp this very basic concept? I had you as town on my spreadsheet so even though I thought you were indie, I didn't think you were necessarily a threat to town.

there is also another reason I had indies on the brain. I have just completed a micro where the co- gm of

this

game modded and guess what I was - a town compatible indie who met their wc n1. in a game this size I would expect there to be an indie or 2 and since the roles are more creative on this site. and what nacho says is true, I special hunt, indie hunt, scum hunt as well as town hunt. it is just the way I play. if get lazy and don't do it, ask seanalderina what happens they wind up getting lynched that's what.

On this site. in this setup. There is only an SK. Every other site is irrelevant. You called me an indie, I ask you why you called me one and then you got defensive and stupid and then Jiffy had to come in and clarify that on some silly site that not all indies are scum. Why you couldn’t have told me that is just mind boggling. And then scumcho comes in to tell me that you sk hunt which I’ve never fucking seen wich prob means that he’s scum ‘cause he expects me to know something when my experience with Mollie is like 1 game and 2 ongoings.


What you said was fucking retarded. What you did was immature as fuck. Jiffy must be really good in the sack ‘cause he’s done fucked your brains out.

yanno I am used to nero's creepy obsession with me but this raging hard on is starting to go overboard. I think he has said my name like in every other post and yet is ignoring the majiffy half almost entirely.

That's it Mollie!!! We're having a fucking conversation about you and your actions. Of course your name is going to be in it you conceited word I'd likely get modkilled for.

It seems clarifications are necessary. When I asked "are you suggesting Nacho is being bussed?" I was talking to Nero Cain (1424) who seemed to imply Bacde was bussing.

I was. I think Nacho is pretty scummy though I'll always be suspicious of players who "change" their playstyle like Bacde has done this game. Though its quite possible that its two different scum teams going at it. There’s also the fact the atleast thrice Bacde has attempted to derail the Nacho wagon.

+

If

I flip town, you're living in my scumlist for a while. You owe me that much.

Here he uses the term if instead of when.

Nero, I gave you that answer because I don't want to go back into set-up speculation. Mollie's point on you being an SK/Indie makes sense but you just pushed it away like it's nothing and called it terrible. Makes me wonder

How is asking Mollie to explain her statement “pushing it away”?

Ryu’s case on BS on page 75 is shit.

An Oversoul wagon!!!! Stop playing with my heart you guys.
Fuzzy is claiming to have only read 3 pages. Why can't we kill that?

Killing lurkers is not going to help the game Nero. I thought we have pass these kind of things... If you're town, Help us please...
I don't want to have this game turned into another game withfull of derp shit and fulff and finally ends up lynching all lurkers and town.

and you know he's lurking town instead of lurking scum because?

Nacho, Haylen, Bacde, AK, THAD, Thor, Sean are looking like the scummiest players in the game.


I do not give a fuck about the alignments of B&TB and OS.


5. DLG/PV
8. EddieFenix
9. Bulbazak
11. Red Ryu
13. Desperado
23. Om the Destroyer


Those are a list of players that I need to ISO.

[Nero Cain]

vote:OS

[Nero Cain]

Pro-tip, careful with iso. You don't get everything in context.

I've been here just as long as you and you don't think I know that. lol

Though you've never mentioned me before so why do you have a scum read on me?

also Nero you must think that I'm WAAAAAY more strategic and manipulative of a player than I actually am if you

think I've ever attempted

to derail the nacho wagon

I don't need to think you've tried to derail the Nacho wagon, the thread evidence says that you have.

[Nero Cain]

Nero calls Haylen scummy.

Mollie calls Nero scummy for calling Haylen scummy.

Jiffy is pretty much implying that he finds Haylen scummy.

This hydra dis is fucking annoying.

this is an outright lie cos that isn't why I am calling you scummy

link the post where I called you scummy for calling haylen scummy

you won't find one

ok

Here’s your post calling me scum right after I call Haylen scum.

How are long game days bad for the town? They provide a lot of information that we can use later

But with SO MUCH info, weeding out who is scum/town can be very difficult. + the town grows apathetic which greatly helps scum.

Why is #2403 scummy again?

"Hey guys, its ok id we loose OS, no one is going to miss him."
Mislynching is never a good thing and you seem to be ok with that.

okay nero is like confscum now
he is always willing to mislynch
with this post he is actually playing....protown.
NERO IS PROBABLY SCUM GUYS!!!!!

So I’m calling Haylen scum ‘cause I think her vote and last post stink.

you butt in and are all like “oh but guyz Nero is always willing to mislynch” Which is a fucking lie anyhow.

which pretty much is discrediting my Haylen attack.

okay so you are okay with lynching overlysoul but then you chastise rena for....being okay with lynching os?

and then here you reinforce the idea that my attack on Haylen was bad.

[Nero Cain]

I don't need to think you've tried to derail the Nacho wagon, the thread evidence says that you have.

IMO I was reaching out for help and support, which you didn't give despite pretending to support the nacho wagon?

Yep, I'm only pretending 'cause its not like I was voting him and calling him scum or anything.

if you read my posts its obvious that I wasn't trying to derail the wagon, but had rather lost confidence in it

Once or twice...maybe But you've several times tried to NOT lynch Nacho. But at the same time, I'm thinkin' we should lynch OS today so meh.

[Nero Cain]

I don't need to think you've tried to derail the Nacho wagon, the thread evidence says that you have.

IMO I was reaching out for help and support, which you didn't give despite pretending to support the nacho wagon?

Yep, I'm only pretending 'cause its not like I was voting him and calling him scum or anything.

if you read my posts its obvious that I wasn't trying to derail the wagon, but had rather lost confidence in it

Once or twice...maybe But you've several times tried to NOT lynch Nacho. But at the same time, I'm thinkin' we should lynch OS today so meh.

[Nero Cain]

but I don't do that. You and Angel tend to think that I do but I don't.

And you have mentioned Haylen. Haylen is Rena.

[Nero Cain]

lol no. I mean both of ya'll have done some incredibly stupid things this game and I prefer to not play mental gymnastics and guess what alignment ya'll are.

[Nero Cain]

So you think you are a policy lynch? lol

[Nero Cain]

Nacho atleast

[Nero Cain]

So you think you are a policy lynch? lol

Voting without a reason and not looking to determine our alignments is just as bad as a policy vote.

Yeah, I mean you only did a weak ass gambit then backtracked, then pulled this "woe is me, I don't like this game" I mean, maybe you're town and that was my original gut read but you're being a massive tool in this game and I don't like it one bit. So unless I get to lynch Nacho or Haylen then I'm killing you.

Nero why are you lurking?

I had gotten way beyond this game and large themes are starting to annoy the fuck out of me.

[Nero Cain]

Anyone find it funny Nero has done something like double his posts and suddenly is "interested" in this game as soon as a wagon on him starts to appear? Anyone also find it funny that he's spending all of his posts attacking people for relatively nothing of importance, still isn't scumhunting, and still hasn't addressed my argument for why he's scum?

lol I did the same in posh mafia and was town and you were in that game so I don't know why you are being stupid and lying once again. I'm doing plenty of scumhunting. Your argument is fucking retarded. Its basically "Nero is scum 'cause he thinks Haylen is scummy for cheerleading an OS lynch." So you are claiming Haylen's scumbuddy?

[Nero Cain]

In post 2401, Nero Cain wrote:its also likely multiball

How in the world can town make this assumption on Day 1?

Its a 24 player game an current site meta suggest more than 1 killing faction. 6 scum seems the ideal number, weather its a 5 man scum team and a sk or two 3 man scum teams.

But all of Slandaar, Bcade and Bulb have speculated that its multiball as well. Why is this a sin for me but not them?

+ why am I not on your town list?

[Nero Cain]

In post 2596, Nero Cain wrote:But all of Slandaar, Bcade and Bulb have speculated that its multiball as well. Why is this a sin for me but not them?

+ why am I not on your town list?


Translation: "Look at these players that have acted similarly to me. Why aren't they scummy? They should totally be scummy. Give me town cred."

no. Do you know the term selective scumhunting?

[Nero Cain]

Nero Cain wrote:

In post 2603, Bulbazak wrote:In post 2596, Nero Cain wrote:But all of Slandaar, Bcade and Bulb have speculated that its multiball as well. Why is this a sin for me but not them?

+ why am I not on your town list?


Translation: "Look at these players that have acted similarly to me. Why aren't they scummy? They should totally be scummy. Give me town cred."

no. Do you know the term selective scumhunting?Sounds to me like a deflection/attempt to gain town cred.

yeah!!! Asking Khan why he finds me scummy for something a bunch of others are doing is sooooo scummy.

[Nero Cain]

ummm... I did. Not my fault if you tools don't read.

[Nero Cain]

Its a 24 player game an current site meta suggest more than 1 killing faction. 6 scum seems the ideal number, weather its a 5 man scum team and a sk or two 3 man scum teams.

OH LOOK!!! Here I am explaining why I have that belief.

Bulb might be scum after all 'cause you know he selectively edited my post and didn't read my explanation. I was town reading Mozza so he might just be an idiot. IDK some people have suggested that he's scummy and yeah, claiming that I didn't give an explanation when I did could be scum lying instead of town horriblesness but me...

[Nero Cain]

it is perfectly acceptable for nero to say majiffy has fucked me into stupidity? that it is perfectly acceptable that the personal details of my sex life are being used to put me down and discredit me? you are okay with that? seriously? not even if it hurts my feelings?

it was obviously a joke. Its not even talking about your sex life. I don't see why it would hurt your feelings but that was never my intention.

[Nero Cain]

Bulb might be scum after all 'cause you know he selectively edited my post and didn't read my explanation.

Who said that I didn't read your explanation? That by itself would have been perfectly acceptable. It's the "Hey look at these guys..." at the end that immediately tripped my scumdar. When I quote something, I want to quote the most important thing, i.e. what I'm referring to. So, no, I wasn't being selective. I was referring to a specific point of your post, which had nothing to do with your explanation. Regardless of the first part of your post, the end was still scummy, and I will hold to that.

So its scummy that I asked Khan why he finds me scummy for something that others are doing? That's scumhunting. What the fuck is wrong with you? Did you roll a scum pm?

[Nero Cain]

Technically you broke the multiball cherry in Post 1377. Also, the big difference is that you wrote likely multiball whereas they said something along the lines of "it might be multiball because I'm too much of a stubborn fool to admit I'm possibly wrong about a scumread". (Paraphrased, of course)

+ you're not on the town list because you haven't stood out as town.

Also, you're really stretching the definition of multiball if you want it to include 5maf+1SK. Multiball is two scum teams.

I know that "multiball" is two scum teams but I think its kinda a silly definition. A kill is a kill and even if the sk uses a knife its still a dead body. What if its a game with two scum teams but one doesn't kill bwo gun. Is it still multiball? lol

What do you think of Bulb and Moz claiming that I'm deflecting away from said question but still answering it? I don't even know how that works.

[Nero Cain]

In post 2638, Nero Cain wrote:So its scummy that I asked Khan why he finds me scummy for something that others are doing? That's scumhunting.


No, that's deflecting. I'm not even sure how you could confuse the 2.

So answering the question and telling him why I have such a belief and then asking him why he has such a belief is a deflection? No its not, that's a normal conversation.

As an example, what Mollie did is a deflection. Answering a question is not a deflection.

In post 2691, Nero Cain wrote:What do you think of Bulb and Moz claiming that I'm deflecting away from said question but still answering it? I don't even know how that works.

I never said that you were deflecting the question. You can answer a question but still desire attention to be diverted away from you. You essentially said, "Hey, those guys are just as scummy as I am. Look at them."

So, I know that I'm town and instead of telling KK that I'm town and to stop wasting time on me I should have....let him keep wasting his time on me? That's horrible as fuck 'cause it allows your buddies (assuming you are scum) to skate by and attempt to avoid detection. I wanted to know why KK found me scummy for something that others are doing.

If I found you scummy for lurking, wouldn't you want to know why I specifically find you scummy for lurking but not others?

[Nero Cain]

In post 2726, Nero Cain wrote:So answering the question and telling him why I have such a belief and then asking him why he has such a belief is a deflection? No its not, that's a normal conversation.

It would be normal conversation

if you actually did ask him

why he held such a belief, instead of trying to steer his attention to other people and off of you.

But all of Slandaar, Bcade and Bulb have speculated that its multiball as well.

Why is this a sin for me but not them?

]

I did you clown.

In post 2726, Nero Cain wrote:So, I know that I'm town and instead of telling KK that I'm town and to stop wasting time on me I should have....let him keep wasting his time on me?

There were better ways to handle it than trying to sic him on others.

half the point of the game is to point things out that could be scum posting. Why are you against scumhunting?

[Nero Cain]

Nero do you agree there is a very clear distinction between what I said and what you said?

but I don't know exactly what you said. I know that Bcade and Bulb were arguing over the number of the scum and that Bulb posted an insanely high/inflated number (7-8) and Bcade's was more reasonable.

OS, gimme me a tl;dr case on Despo?

[Nero Cain]

Unfortunately he seems a little townish and derpy if the case were hes derpy I could get behind it and vote him but not now.

but he is derpy but I'm starting to think that his town meta is to play scummy and derpy so when he rolls scum he'll be a shinning beacon of towniness.

Though some of his play makes my head hurt and it makes me want to scream "THIS GUY IS SCUM!!!" so I don't really care if we lynch him or Nacho today.

[Nero Cain]

Mollie, what is your read on KK?

[Nero Cain]

Nero do you agree there is a very clear distinction between what I said and what you said?

but I don't know exactly what you said. I know that Bcade and Bulb were arguing over the number of the scum and that Bulb posted an insanely high/inflated number (7-8) and Bcade's was more reasonable.

OS, gimme me a tl;dr case on Despo?

If you don't know what I said then why are you including me in any kind of list saying I said something similar?

on one of my reads, someone said that you were thinkin' this was multiball and you aren't denying it so if you are town you should stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

Unfortunately he seems a little townish and derpy if the case were hes derpy I could get behind it and vote him but not now.

but he is derpy but I'm starting to think that his town meta is to play scummy and derpy so when he rolls scum he'll be a shinning beacon of towniness.

Though some of his play makes my head hurt and it makes me want to scream "THIS GUY IS SCUM!!!" so I don't really care if we lynch him or Nacho today.

lol

Well OK then.

Except these are not my thoughts they are Thors.

So you are a Thor alt then? Why are Thor's word in your post?

Mollie, what is your read on KK?

I see him as town

wait why are you asking me

What's the problem with me asking you? I thought I saw something that connected you and KK (but it was actually you and Thor) I think that if you were scum I'd get a better reaction from this head then Jiffy.

In post 2691, Nero Cain wrote:What do you think of Bulb and Moz claiming that I'm deflecting away from said question but still answering it? I don't even know how that works.

They seem hungry to make some sort of point. But from my POV the accusation is a non-starter. You were checking if my accusation was consistent or selective. It didn't seem like you were trying to deflect or shy away from my original question.

THANK YOU!!!!

[Nero Cain]

Who wants to dig around for Red Ryu's partners?

I'm hunting red right now

but a town-team looking for blue scum would be awesome

why?

Also, I made a mistake yesterday. It was Thez, not Bulb, that suggested a 7-8 man scum game.

[Nero Cain]

vote:Haylen

[Nero Cain]

So CTD, you were about to paraphrase ya'lls talk from last night.....

[Nero Cain]

Fuzzy isn't dumb scum

When have you played with him?

ok so Red kills syr, but why does his team let him? not like Syr was a major player capable of forming a lynch on ryu to go through, and again Ryu was a pretty good bussing option, so why try and eliminate people who scum read him?

I don't know about syr. I mean there is probably a vig in this game, and while I don't think they killed syr it could have been a random vig or third party kill or something.

I

HIGHLY

doubt that as Ryu flipped a specific faction. So unless Mastin is trolling us, it points heavily at two scum teams. And unless the red kill was stopped the RYU was shot by red.

but nero asking me about khan out of the blue like that was weird. and his crappy excuse as to why he asked was even scummier. if nero flips scum khan is likely his teammate

It was Thor btw. I swear there's a post by Thor that says there's "likely an SK" and you were sk hunting me. Can you see how I might find that strange? (don't worry its rhetorical)

Just to understand. There are three neighborhoods?

CrashTextDummie - Slandaar
ThAdmiral - ???
Desperado - ???

?????

I don't think Despo ever claimed or maybe I missed it.


kitty, why do both you and Mala agree on Nero/Cephir scum but you are voting neither?

I’d also love to hear why I’m a scum read.

<<< Deleted double-post. >>>

[Nero Cain]

ok, I see despo's calm now.

My vig kill on ffulisade also failed last night but my role isn't a killing role so that's prob why it didn't go through.

<<< Deleted double-post. >>>

[Nero Cain]

its scum. Even if the color is green, its still scum.

[Nero Cain]

I have a question Bulb. I'm obviously a scum read for you since I "deflected" a question. Yesterday, I had felt that AK laid down a pretty opportunistic vote and she goes all "hey look at Bacde's vote!!!"

Why is my deflect scummy but hers isn't?

Also, the guy (KK) who asked me the question that I "deflected" doesn't even think I was deflecting. What do you think about that?

[Nero Cain]

Tbh: I have a hard time reading Ceph.

It's not that he's not likely as scum. It's that I don't see him as scum.

Ryu, hmm. Now THERE is a likely scum if I ever saw one.

Don't want to vote him just yet though. Ryu, what do you have to say to this?

.....................damn it, Ryu.

That's just too cute.

What?

I don't want to lynch Ryu.

Haven't looked into every possibility yet but for now,

VOTE: Haylen

I like this

I nominate you to be the leader of the "blue scum finding town faction"

So why are you not voting this?

and why is Haylen/Fuzzy scum?

Why are you asking this when the Mara head just told us she thinks Fuzzy/Haylen is town?

I personally have him as null, that's Mala's read and I'm to lazy to search skype just to find the answer

This looks like a lie.

list of shared reads.

Mala's idea, not mine

Town

ffullisade (fferylit+pirate mollie) - town

Slandaar

Bulbazak

CrashTextDummie

Lean-town

ArcAngel9 [1] - Null-town

Om the Destroyer (Human Destroyer+Om of the Nom) - leaning town

ThAdmiral

Bacde

Nachomamma8

PeregrineV

thezmon221

null

Thor665

Desperado

penguin_alien

Haylen (Mala thinks Fuzzy is scum, I think haylen is town)

EddieFenix

lean-scum

Kublai Khan

Seanald

Scum

Nero Cain

Cephir

~Mara

In the bolded, you said these were shared reads. You then claim that I’m

NOT

a shared read. OK. In that reads list you specifically stated that you two had different views on FuzzyHaylen. Why was I not given this some luxury?

You know who doesn't have reads that change after flips (especially two flips)? Scum. Scum doesn't need to change their reads.

This reminds me of playground mafia where I was convinced that LLD was scum and after two flips I still thought she was scum. She actually was scum but I don't think that has anything to do with anything. So anyways, I got ragged on for "not changing my read". So no, I don't buy into this whole "ZOMG BACDE DIDN'T CHANGE HIS READ!!! HE'S SO SCUM!!!" I mean I'm scum reading him but its not for that.

[Nero Cain]

that should read SAME LUXURY and not some luxury

[Nero Cain]

I also want to chime in about the Mollie slot. Mollie gets constantly read as scum and Jiffy knows it. In this game (link below) Ma Jiffy put a leash on Mollie to avoid suspicion. Bacde already brought up the fact that they could be switching their meta around to fool us.


http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25981

[Nero Cain]

I agree with Bcade here. In some game I pegged JasonT for implying that some player was scum. I wasn't voting 'cause I was waiting to see something. (ongoing) Though KK is right, the amount of fail town posting on this site is high. But I can agree to this if we are gonna kill Haylen scum after.

vote:Thezmon

[Nero Cain]

the only thing that's rock solid is angel's abs.

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[Nero Cain]

^ scum

[Nero Cain]

Well I know who I'm going to fake vig tonight.

[Nero Cain]

you scum? Why would you care about who I fake vig tonight?

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[Nero Cain]

So then why do you care? I could see scum that thinks I'm claiming a fake vig to hide my actual power.