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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:47 am

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<<< As the day drags on, Oversoul shifts out of the group's focus. Slowly but surely,
Bacde
spearheads a new angle, attacking one strong advocate of lynching Oversoul,
Nachomamma8
.

Nero breaks his silence, at first going elsewhere, but later joining the crusade against Nacho. Though there is some brief confusion about why the mute was suddenly vocal, everyone eventually shrugs it off and some even join him.

In fact, despite only a couple of hours having passed, the suspicion on Oversoul seems to have all-but vanished, with Nacho now dominating strongly.
So, too, has the suspicion on
BeautyAndTheBeast
gone away, as people learned to accept this two-people-in-one-person for who they are.

...In fact, someone else decides to join in the fun!
Human Destroyer
, who had been a normal guy (other than his nickname being Human Destroyer), suddenly gains an alter-ego
Om
and insists on being called
Om the Destroyer
, despite himself answering to Skull and Peter.

...Well, it IS a maniacal street, so this kind of craziness is not to be unexpected. After a few moments of shrugging, everyone adapts--everyone, that is, except for
Bulbazak
, who goes at his throat and throws accusations of him faking a very real disorder. This, in turn, ticks off Om the Destroyer, and a shouting match ensues.

A shouting match so brutal that other members of the town have to keep the two from strangling each other. "End of the day! Wait until the end of the day! For that!" >>>


Seventeenth Votecount
:
(
AKA, the "Flavored update" votecount
)


Nachomamma8 - 4 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Nero Cain, Amethyst Kitty)

Oversoul - 2 (Nachomamma8, CrashTextDummie)

BeautyAndTheBeast - 2 (Cephrir, EddieFenix)
Red Ryu - 2 (Oversoul, Thor665)
Cephrir - 2 (fuzzybutternut, BeautyAndTheBeast)
ArcAngel9 - 1 (DLG)
Bulbazak - 1 (Om the Destroyer)
Om the Destroyer - 1 (Bulbazak)

Not Voting - 9 (Mac, Syryana, Desperado, Baby Spice, Slandaar, Seanald, ActionDan, Rondar, ArcAngel9)

With
24
players alive, it's
13
to lynch.

Deadline is on Monday, May 27th, @ 11:30 AM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-05-27 11:31:59).


Spoiler: changes from last official votecount
Nachomamma8 - 4 (Red Ryu, Bacde, Nero Cain, Amethyst Kitty)
Oversoul - 2 (Nachomamma8, CrashTextDummie)
BeautyAndTheBeast - 2 (Cephrir, EddieFenix)
Cephrir - 2 (fuzzybutternut, BeautyAndTheBeast)
Red Ryu - 2 (Oversoul, Thor665)
ArcAngel9 - 1 (DLG)
Bulbazak - 1 (Om the Destroyer)
Om the Destroyer - 1 (Bulbazak)

Not Voting - 9 (Mac, Syryana, Desperado, Baby Spice, Slandaar, Seanald, ActionDan, Rondar, ArcAngel9)


Spoiler: Player Vote History
Mac:
CrashTextDummie: Oversoul
Cephrir: Oversoul->BeautyAndTheBeast
Nachomamma8: Oversoul
DLG: ArcAngel9
Nero Cain: Oversoul->EddieFenix->Oversoul->Nachomamma8
Bacde: Nachomamma8->BeautyAndTheBeast->EddieFenix->Nachomamma8
EddieFenix: BeautyAndTheBeast
Bulbazak: Oversoul->Om the Destroyer
Thor665: Red Ryu
Red Ryu: Nachomamma8
Syryana:
Desperado:
Baby Spice:
Slandaar:
Oversoul: Red Ryu
Seanald:
ActionDan:
fuzzybutternut: Oversoul->Cephrir
Rondar:
Amethyst Kitty: Nachomamma8
BeautyAndTheBeast: Cephrir->Nachomamma8->Unvote->Cephrir
Om the Destroyer: Red Ryu->BeautyAndTheBeast->Bulbazak
ArcAngel9:


Spoiler: Voting History
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 12:43p,
Oversoul
votes
Red Ryu
in post 202.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 12:47p,
Nachomamma8
votes
Oversoul
in post 206.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 01:08p,
CrashTextDummie
votes
Oversoul
in post 211.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 01:32p,
Nero Cain
votes
Oversoul
in post 218.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 01:37p,
Cephrir
votes
Oversoul
in post 219.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 02:45p,
Bulbazak
votes
Oversoul
in post 237.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 02:56p,
Om the Destroyer
votes
Red Ryu
in post 250.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 04:58p,
BeautyAndTheBeast
votes
Cephrir
in post 301.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 05:38p,
Om the Destroyer
unvotes
Red Ryu
and votes
BeautyAndTheBeast
in post 323.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 05:42p,
Cephrir
unvotes
Oversoul
and votes
BeautyAndTheBeast
in post 327.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 07:04p,
fuzzybutternut
votes
Oversoul
in post 361.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 07:42p,
Bacde
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 388.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 08:14p,
Bacde
votes
BeautyAndTheBeast
in post 406.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 08:36p,
fuzzybutternut
votes
Cephrir
in post 414.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 08:43p,
EddieFenix
votes
BeautyAndTheBeast
in post 415.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 08:58p,
Nero Cain
votes
EddieFenix
in post 418.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 09:08p,
Red Ryu
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 423.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 09:13p,
Bacde
votes
EddieFenix
in post 427.
On Mon, May 5/06/13 @ 09:55p,
Nero Cain
votes
Oversoul
in post 564.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 09:23a,
DLG
votes
ArcAngel9
in post 494.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 06:14p,
Bacde
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 587.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 08:41p,
Thor665
votes
Red Ryu
in post 600.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 09:12p,
Nero Cain
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 614.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 09:26p,
BeautyAndTheBeast
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 620.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 09:43p,
Amethyst Kitty
votes
Nachomamma8
in post 626.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 10:19p,
BeautyAndTheBeast
unvotes
Nachomamma8
in post 631.
On Tue, May 5/07/13 @ 11:09p,
BeautyAndTheBeast
votes
Cephrir
in post 637.
On Wed, May 5/08/13 @ 00:46a,
Om the Destroyer
votes
Bulbazak
in post 654.
On Wed, May 5/08/13 @ 00:58a,
Bulbazak
votes
Om the destroyer
in post 657.
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:49 am

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In post 723, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:@ om - do you mean to tell me you really think we are scum.
No, I was only voting you for 10 pages for absolutely no reason.

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well you didn't have a reason that is kinda my point.

the buddying crap is baseless I mean it is right there in majiffy's sig that he tries to work with thor in every game they are in.

also do you know what chainsaw defense means cos I am not sure.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:50 am

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Mollie, Mollie, we are still here. We havn't left you, we never will

and I'm inclined to believe that Bulb is hard-core buddying many people us included... I'm not sure why though

and HD, just because Mala didn't express a Nacho scum read in the game, doesn't mean she doesn't have it. I would show you proof if I was allowed to

and what I don't get is why you got on her case for not voting whilst voicing suspicion on people. You know my Meta when it comes to voting, as does she, and I am part of this Hydra so I think it could have been fair to assume that she wanted to see if I was ok with w/e vote was being placed.

What's bad with my jump on Nacho? What about it don't you like?

We have a few scum reads that we share and Nacho is one of them, some of the others I will with-hold until I get an answer from Nacho

we both have OS as glaringly obvious town though, and we are both leaning town on the Disney Hydra

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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:51 am

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In post 726, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 723, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:@ om - do you mean to tell me you really think we are scum.
No, I was only voting you for 10 pages for absolutely no reason.

~ :dead: (Applies to big wall post too)
well you didn't have a reason that is kinda my point.

the buddying crap is baseless I mean it is right there in majiffy's sig that he tries to work with thor in every game they are in.

also do you know what chainsaw defense means cos I am not sure.
I still think it has basis, I see obvious scum motivation behind it.

And yes, that is a chainsaw defense and I know what it means. Half of Bulbazak's wall basically attacks my B&TB scumread.
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:52 am

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In post 724, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote: so you are chick huh
Nah, dude. Just wanted to have some fun with you.
In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote: why are you hardcore buddying us? cos that is what you are doing and while majiffy will be flattered, I am not impressed. you seem to "have meta" on majiffy when you have stated that you have never played with him before.
When I was preparing for my first Mafia game, I read many games, several of which happened to have Majiffy in them. Your hydra's actions during pre-game gave me a very strong townread of you. Om was presenting an argument that was so stupid that I felt I had to address it. I tend to defend my townreads, especially when it's over something as dumb as what Om presented. However, when he actually had a decent point, I didn't say anything.

P-edit: I'll get to Om's wall later. Right now I'm going to eat.
I don't remember anybody asking you to defend your town read on us what you are doing is wking which something totally different and is an typical objective scumtell although I know some town do it too but usually only with players you know pretty well. you don't know us so why are you doing it

what did you see in our early posting that made you put us as town
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:54 am

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In post 727, Amethyst Kitty wrote:and HD, just because Mala didn't express a Nacho scum read in the game, doesn't mean she doesn't have it. I would show you proof if I was allowed to

and what I don't get is why you got on her case for not voting whilst voicing suspicion on people. You know my Meta when it comes to voting, as does she, and I am part of this Hydra so I think it could have been fair to assume that she wanted to see if I was ok with w/e vote was being placed.

What's bad with my jump on Nacho? What about it don't you like?
The timing of the jump.

It seemed opportunistic to me and you're "oh she was just withholding it she actually had a nacho scumread the whole time!" is a fairly basic and weak excuse that's impossible to prove.

My other point was that you were going for the whole "Oh we're waiting for the other head's consent to vote" but then you voted with what seemed to be a lack of consent from Mala. This is a disconnect.

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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:54 am

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I'll tell you what I don't like. You're vote was the 4th vote on Nacho. Now of course you can easily saw "oh well we were behind and didn't know there was a nacho wagon." but its incredibly convenient me thinks.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:55 am

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In post 729, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 724, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote: so you are chick huh
Nah, dude. Just wanted to have some fun with you.
In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote: why are you hardcore buddying us? cos that is what you are doing and while majiffy will be flattered, I am not impressed. you seem to "have meta" on majiffy when you have stated that you have never played with him before.
When I was preparing for my first Mafia game, I read many games, several of which happened to have Majiffy in them. Your hydra's actions during pre-game gave me a very strong townread of you. Om was presenting an argument that was so stupid that I felt I had to address it. I tend to defend my townreads, especially when it's over something as dumb as what Om presented. However, when he actually had a decent point, I didn't say anything.

P-edit: I'll get to Om's wall later. Right now I'm going to eat.
I don't remember anybody asking you to defend your town read on us what you are doing is wking which something totally different and is an typical objective scumtell although I know some town do it too but usually only with players you know pretty well. you don't know us so why are you doing it

what did you see in our early posting that made you put us as town
Wait so you aren't scum with Bulbazak?
Shit.

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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:55 am

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In post 731, Nero Cain wrote:I'll tell you what I don't like. You're vote was the 4th vote on Nacho. Now of course you can easily saw "oh well we were behind and didn't know there was a nacho wagon." but its incredibly convenient me thinks.
Please vote Bulbazak.

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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:56 am

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VOTE: Bulb
Sheeping. Etc.
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:58 am

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but I want to kill scum Nacho or atleast utility lynch the horrible OS and B&TB slots.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 11:59 am

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In post 728, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 726, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 723, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:@ om - do you mean to tell me you really think we are scum.
No, I was only voting you for 10 pages for absolutely no reason.

~ :dead: (Applies to big wall post too)
well you didn't have a reason that is kinda my point.

the buddying crap is baseless I mean it is right there in majiffy's sig that he tries to work with thor in every game they are in.

also do you know what chainsaw defense means cos I am not sure.
I still think it has basis, I see obvious scum motivation behind it.

And yes, that is a chainsaw defense and I know what it means. Half of Bulbazak's wall basically attacks my B&TB scumread.
it is only a chainsaw defense if you have a flip on scum. otherwise it is just a word salad tossed with hot air in order to firm up a weakass case
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:00 pm

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Well, that was the time I had just returned from V/LA and as for the disconnect, it isn't there. I had asked her in skype if we could vote Nacho and she agreed.

You also don't answer why you questioned Mala's not voting when you know that
my
Meta demands that I don't vote anyone unless I am certain that said person is scum and when I am a part of this Hydra

we could just as easily Vote another scum read we share but I like Nacho's wagon better

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Pedit: we are not using that excuse Nero, and it's the 4th vote out of 13 votes needed. I hardly call it a forming wagon at this stage
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:00 pm

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In post 735, Nero Cain wrote:but I want to kill scum Nacho or atleast utility lynch the horrible OS and B&TB slots.
If Bulbazak is scum (which he probably is) I'm starting to realize B&TB would actually be town.
Read my wall post on the last page. Hell, just look at the tl;dr.
This should end with you voting him.

OS I really don't give a fuck about right now. We can sort him out later.

Also Nacho isn't as bad as you're saying he is and some of the people on that wagon (Red Ryu, Amethyst) aren't town at all.

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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:02 pm

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In post 736, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 728, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 726, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 723, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 720, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:@ om - do you mean to tell me you really think we are scum.
No, I was only voting you for 10 pages for absolutely no reason.

~ :dead: (Applies to big wall post too)
well you didn't have a reason that is kinda my point.

the buddying crap is baseless I mean it is right there in majiffy's sig that he tries to work with thor in every game they are in.

also do you know what chainsaw defense means cos I am not sure.
I still think it has basis, I see obvious scum motivation behind it.

And yes, that is a chainsaw defense and I know what it means. Half of Bulbazak's wall basically attacks my B&TB scumread.
it is only a chainsaw defense if you have a flip on scum. otherwise it is just a word salad tossed with hot air in order to firm up a weakass case
How can you possibly call the case weak?
He misrepped our hydra, Amethyst Kitty, and himself 20 times, all in one post!


And I'm realizing now this chainsaw defense is probably part of a WK, so please vote Bulbazak.

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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:03 pm

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In post 737, Amethyst Kitty wrote:You also don't answer why you questioned Mala's not voting when you know that my Meta demands that I don't vote anyone unless I am certain that said person is scum and when I am a part of this Hydra

we could just as easily Vote another scum read we share but I like Nacho's wagon better
1) You aren't the same person.
2) Again, there's literally no indication except your own word (which we don't know is trustworthy) that Mala had and still has a scumread on Nacho.
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:05 pm

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In post 734, fuzzybutternut wrote:VOTE: Bulb
Sheeping. Etc.
If Om jumped off a cliff, would you follow him?
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:05 pm

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In post 735, Nero Cain wrote:but I want to kill scum Nacho or atleast utility lynch the horrible OS and B&TB slots.
if nero was ever actually
not
a retard in a game I probably would be very suspicious
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:06 pm

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In post 741, Mac wrote:
In post 734, fuzzybutternut wrote:VOTE: Bulb
Sheeping. Etc.
If Om jumped off a cliff, would you follow him?
Did you even read the post or did you just decide to make a weak jab at Fuzzy out of nowhere?

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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:08 pm

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I'll read Bulb more in detail later but my gut reaction says town, B&TB might be town 'cause Maj prob would put a leash on scummy/dumb as fuck Mollie. Ditto for OS, seems like he's more careful as scum. Though either way I don't really care about their alignments and I think its in the best intrest of the town to get rid of them. I think Nacho is scum.

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Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:14 pm

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In post 652, Oversoul wrote:
In post 626, Amethyst Kitty wrote:His suggestion to mass-claim seems genuine IMO and Nacho has done far more scummier stuff other then the mass-claim anyway
It's alignment neutral.

CTD did it in the recently finished invitational NY game as scum traitor. However, he did do much more in my opinion here to try and get mass claim to occur than in that game.

Are you following that thread in MD stating that Nacho's summary is a scumtell?
Following it? I made that thread. why? what's the reason for you posting this, I'm obviously aware of the tell otherwise I wouldn't have brought it up and neither would have Mala. I also wouldn't have brought up stats if I didn't know about it...

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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:21 pm

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In post 743, Om the Destroyer wrote:
In post 741, Mac wrote:
In post 734, fuzzybutternut wrote:VOTE: Bulb
Sheeping. Etc.
If Om jumped off a cliff, would you follow him?
Did you even read the post or did you just decide to make a weak jab at Fuzzy out of nowhere?

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Did fuzzy?

& yes, I just did it now. Waiting on Bulba's response.
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:35 pm

Post by Nero Cain »

Mollie,

you had a chance to clarify that you weren't calling me scum but didn't.
you've been here nearly a year and show no signs of even giving a shit about how mafia is played here.

For the love of anything holy, please shut the fuck up.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:47 pm

Post by BeautyAndTheBeast »

dear nero,

stop being a colossal douchebag and focus on the game cos otherwise you are putting on the hypocritical tighty whities cos what you are doing is anti-town right now if you are indeed town which I am leaning on

for the love anything holy, leave me the fuck alone
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2013 12:57 pm

Post by Baby Spice »

Thor is town. Him I can read.

Vote Red Ryuwhatsit


Didn't like Red's early posts anywat.

Also think Om's posts were scummy, though now Destroyer has started posting they improve a little.

However the wall fest doesn't read ad town on town and B&B do read as town.

Ceph is also in the scum read list.

Page 19 and reading.
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