NY 164: Maniacal Street Mafia (Anticlimatically finished.)

[Red Ryu]

Thor dumb town, posts to actionDan make this more apparent.

[Thor665]

So my reaction of voting you and calling your push on me hypocritical and bad was a 'town reaction'.
Does that mean you agree that it looked like that?

No.

So why did my reaction look town-like if I, apparently, just rectally extracted an opinion and tossed it out there as an excuse to attack you?

[Red Ryu]

[quote="In post 98
What town motivation exists to perpetuate RVS or even pre-RVS when we can move out of it as quickly as possible?

Enlighten me.[/quote]

*headdesk*

Why would that be scummy to goof off? It's pregame and they can make something worthwhile in RvS.
See if they stick to it or not.

RVS is a tool, learn to use it.

[Thor665]

If your casting a "for serious sizzle to vote" RVS is over. You're trying really hard to justify a vote in RVS that you claim is serious that really doesn't mean much this early.

However I think your dumb town or scum, leaning on dumb town ATM, but enlighten me.

Enlighten you about what?
You didn't actually ask me a question. You called me stupid and then asked me to make you smarter about how the game is played.


Why does it matter that I want to call a vote 'that doesn't mean much' serious? Would you rather I call it 'not serious'? Would that be the smart town move?
I don't get it.
I'm pretty dumb though.
Can you explain why me deciding a vote is serious makes me either scummy or stupid?

[Red Ryu]

He should be null at worst and you're trying to pass it off as legit, and making it apparent to him you're serious. And not just apparent your trying really hard to justify it, especially for an RvS vote.

If your doing a reaction test, you blew it. And if you're scum your trying too hard to fake content off nothing.

Hense dumb town or scum.

unvote

[Baby Spice]

So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.

Eeewww!

[Thor665]

He should only be null at worst if I don't think what he did was a tell - now you're applying your opinion of the tell to me and then saying that my reaction to it is inherently flawed as opposed to trying to understand why I think the tell is worth more than you think it is. Is that how you scumhunt? Avoid trying to understand what the other person is thinking and just apply your own conclusions immediately?

If I was doing a reaction test I blew it? Okay...good to know...even though he reacted to me as did multiple other posters...?

So I'm either dumb town because you think a theory reaction test didn't get a reaction (even though it did) and/or because I'm taking a tell too seriously that you didn't try to understand.
Or I'm scum who thinks that causing a reaction test that didn't get a reaction (even though it did) and/or pushing really hard will make me look town.

Wouldn't that just make me dumb either way and not actually be an alignment tell at all?
You seem to just be saying 'I think Thor is dumb and hi play is also dumb - he is either town or scum.'

In other words you're saying nothing.
Right?

[Thor665]

So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.

Eeewww!

In other news - the game is in progress even though votes don't currently count.
Your thoughts?

[Red Ryu]

Unvote

Thor I read your reason, I even quoted it.

Anything you got on OS is borderline worthless. I will say how others reacted to it is a tell worth looking at, OS though not so much.

So yes I think how you approached applying Ws bad, but your line if questions, at least later, is trying to make content and stance. I think your dumb town because you're trying but doing it wrong and pretty much got null tells from OS, others are really just a fluk and I don't think you planned that.

I had no clear read on you, congrats, I said this very clearly til I read page 4. You didn't really get much from OS and you got something from others, which all I will credit you for that.

Reguardless you're not my concern right now.

[Thor665]

Anything you got on OS is borderline worthless. I will say how others reacted to it is a tell worth looking at, OS though not so much.

So...yeah, in other words I created reactions and got tells.

So yes I think how you approached applying Ws bad, but your line if questions, at least later, is trying to make content and stance. I think your dumb town because you're trying but doing it wrong and pretty much got null tells from OS, others are really just a fluk and I don't think you planned that.

I'm certain I didn't plan it, after all I only do it in all of my games in order to get reactions and responses - but this time it's probably a silly fluke.
It's good to know I'm doing something "wrong" but am helping scumhunt to the point that generates a town read on me.
Hint: if you look at my meta you'll recognize you're calling me dumb town for something I do as scum (dumb or smart - who can tell) which, y'know, before you call my methods dumb and bad you may wish to look into before you claim it's a town tell for you.

Yeah - that's a backhand 'you play the game bad back at'cha.

I had no clear read on you, congrats, I said this very clearly til I read page 4. You didn't really get much from OS and you got something from others, which all I will credit you for that.

I'm just bringing it up - because you suggested me making more of something that was really a null tell was scummy.
You made a rather large production of calling me - functionally, a null tell.
Does that make what you did scummy?

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

tbh thor always looks scummy to me. I am leaving him to majiffy to sort out.

possible town read on spice and rofl slot. wow he was touchy. I guess he didn't want to talk to me.

red person, what's your dealio cheerio

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

also I am just getting this out there cos I will have forgotten it by monday

[fuzzybutternut]

Gut says Jiffy is scum.
So Jiffy is probably scum.

[Bulbazak]

Fuzzy, I've read quite a few Majiffy games. I always think he's scum.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

Gut says you're a moron. So you're probably a moron.

Catching up.

p-edit: Fuzzy and I are well acquainted, don't worry.

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

*headdesk*

Why would that be scummy to goof off? It's pregame and they can make something worthwhile in RvS.
See if they stick to it or not.

RVS is a tool, learn to use it.

It isn't scummy to goof off. It's scummy to try to keep us from exiting RVS. There's a big difference.

In other news, Cephrir continues to be obvscum and I will tunnel him all of d1 as soon as the votes count.

[Amethyst Kitty]

Mollie, why is roflcopter town? I read him as probable scum.

also, I'm getting the feeling that the other Hydra and Thor are both town which makes me feel good.

Since you're here Jiffy, thoughts on Ryu?

Mala is catching up

[fuzzybutternut]

Indeed we are Jiffy. Indeed we are.
I believe your other head is Mollie, correct?

We are acquainted as well.

Bulb, I've learned to kind of ignore Jiffy anyway. It'll become obvious if he's scum sooner or later.

Cephrir as scum? Hmmmmmm.

[Amethyst Kitty]

Fuzzy!!!

do you not think Cephrir is likely scum?

you could tell me what you think of Ryu as well

[fuzzybutternut]

Tbh: I have a hard time reading Ceph.
It's not that he's not likely as scum. It's that I don't see him as scum.

Ryu, hmm. Now THERE is a likely scum if I ever saw one.

Don't want to vote him just yet though. Ryu, what do you have to say to this?

[Amethyst Kitty]

Well, well, well.. Aren't we all just a bunch of fluffy furry energy running around here.

I remember playing with Jiffy twice. Once I read him as scummy when he was town and the second one I knew he was town so I didn't have a problem reading him.

I need to see more of Thor's play to be honest.

Rofl's replacing out was weird and I'm not sure what to make of it yet. The kid is always scummy to me. :\

Don't worry;

Mara and I will dance with 'Jiffy and Mollie and get a pure accurate read on them ;D

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

^ scum

[Amethyst Kitty]

Nope, but come at me bro.

[Red Ryu]

Anything you got on OS is borderline worthless. I will say how others reacted to it is a tell worth looking at, OS though not so much.

So...yeah, in other words I created reactions and got tells.

Almost any situation can make tells.

Yours did, but the one I was hopings yours would bring up, didn't go anywhere. What you did later after that point I did like.

So yes I think how you approached applying Ws bad, but your line if questions, at least later, is trying to make content and stance. I think your dumb town because you're trying but doing it wrong and pretty much got null tells from OS, others are really just a fluk and I don't think you planned that.

I'm certain I didn't plan it, after all I only do it in all of my games in order to get reactions and responses - but this time it's probably a silly fluke.
It's good to know I'm doing something "wrong" but am helping scumhunt to the point that generates a town read on me.
Hint: if you look at my meta you'll recognize you're calling me dumb town for something I do as scum (dumb or smart - who can tell) which, y'know, before you call my methods dumb and bad you may wish to look into before you claim it's a town tell for you.

Yeah - that's a backhand 'you play the game bad back at'cha.

That's fine, I do dumb things too.

Can you link me to a town game and a scum game?

I had no clear read on you, congrats, I said this very clearly til I read page 4. You didn't really get much from OS and you got something from others, which all I will credit you for that.

I'm just bringing it up - because you suggested me making more of something that was really a null tell was scummy.
You made a rather large production of calling me - functionally, a null tell.
Does that make what you did scummy?

Depends.

I pushed you/voted you to see more form you and get more questioning on what you did. Ultimately you kinda gave me tells on your own so all in all I didn't really do much to get to this point. I did make a large product while calling you a null, but the point what to try and read you. The good thing is talking with you strengthens my read, you are putting effort, trying, seeing, making things happen. You press me back and forth here, trying to see where my head is. The end result does not matter, your intent is the #1 that should matter.

I could however have been wasting your time and trying to fake this all and make myself look townie, do you think I did this?

As for if I think what I did was scummy, nope. I pressed to read you, that's all. And it paid off well.

Btw, I'm not recruiting you into my cult til I need a win.

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[fuzzybutternut]

VOTE: Amethyst

That's obviously a black cat, and not an Amethyst cat.
Why you lie to us?