The Fortnight (Game Over)

[Kid A]

So I was thinking we should no lynch D1.

VOTE: Benmage

we basically halve our chances of winning by doing this

[Kid A]

You know what's excellent? RQS.

1. RVS or RQS?
2. Flying or invisibility?
3. Who would win in a fight, kuribo or DrippingGoofball?
3. What is the sound of one hand clapping?

1. I don't really have a preference
2. Invisibility because im scum and i dont want anyone to notice me
3. DrippingGoofball
3. The same as two hands clapping but half as loud

[Kid A]

cogito ergo sum more like cogito ergo

scum

[Kid A]

I'm guessing we're all VT except for the scum but if anyone has a PR you should claim because scum has no nk

[Kid A]

Would a scum win be beneficial do you guys think?

elaborate pls

[Kid A]

do you really think a scumteam with 2 votes can push a lynch on a pr

[Kid A]

I actually think KidA is just a 5 year old

I think you're probably scum though

How does that make you feel?

5

and a half

actually

[Kid A]

kanye can you link me to some of your juicy scum meta

preferably recent

[Kid A]

ok kanye is probably town

gonna look at mattps meta for town now

[Kid A]

i had a scumtell on him and i wanted to see if he did it in any other games or if it was a shitty scumtell

im leaning towards the latter

and i said i was looking at your town meta not your scum meta because i want to see if you fluffpost this much in your other games

[Kid A]

i think im gonna go with matt because hes trying to look active but hes just posting fluff
doesnt pay for scum to lurk in this game

VOTE: mattp

but plenty of people still havent posted yet so who knows

[Kid A]

ok scratch that VOTE: cogito ergo sum

[Kid A]

kid a please tone down the town and get back on matt. we can talk ces later on.

its lovers so unless you have any good reason to think hes weird town my vote is gonna stay on him for now

[Kid A]

dgb why do you keep saying x is scum but not voting them

[Kid A]

It would have been better if you waited to post Kid A I was obviously on that train of thought and was trying to get her in a sticky situation, you made it too forward

[Kid A]

dgb why do you keep saying x is scum but not voting them

What's your hurry? Has everyone posted?

if you arent convicted enough to vote why are you saying people are scum?

[Kid A]

if you arent convicted enough to vote why are you saying people are scum?

Who did I call scum?

Benmage it's too early to bus your buddy.

dgb what do you think of matt? you said im town so ?

I have some theories about MattP. MattP could be:

(1) on crack.
(2) being tasered.
(3) wearing full drag queen regalia.
(4) suffering from a mood-altering pituitary tumor.
(5) scum.

[Kid A]

Aaaand this is why it was bad that you interrupted me Kid

ok next time you are trying to trick someone use the codeword umbrella so i know not to interrupt

[Kid A]

so what about matt and kanye are they scumbuddies or are they just good at reading each other

[Kid A]

if hes scum hes incredibly ballsy scum

[Kid A]

mod, do the scum get to accuse anyone?

[Kid A]

Can I prechoose DGB for tomorrow

i just need to clarify what is happening in this post

[Kid A]

but it made it very clear in the town role pms that you can do that

[Kid A]

hell even benmage understood that and he had no idea what he was doing

[Kid A]

im gonna guess this silence is you running to your qt for help

VOTE: bbmolla

[Kid A]

I'm guessing we're all VT except for the scum but if anyone has a PR you should claim because scum has no nk

Explain your thinking here. This sets off alarm bells in my head; not the part that VT is incredibly obvious, the part where claiming a PR now would at all be beneficial. Go.

make sure that all our prs are working together and not doing redundant shit like jking and protecting the same person

i dont think we have prs though

[Kid A]

well thats totally not shitposting

vote this guy

[Kid A]

its right in the op
literally line 1 of the sample pm

[Kid A]

and feel free to explain why my case is retarded any time

[Kid A]

youre being voted because you responded to me quickly when you didnt have pressure on you but went quiet when you did

you still havent explained why you dont know things that are in the town role pm

[Kid A]

oops quiet again

[Kid A]

I read it after I asked that because I realised the answer was probably there

[Kid A]

The epiphany is:

scum lose if even one of them gets caught out
scum dont get a nightkill
scum then needs to figure out who the top scumhunters are and hope for a mislynch on them

i honestly feel theres a strong possibility that DGB is town and the wagon is an attempt to prevent her ever-changing reads from landing on one of them

DGB is provably a top scumhunter and a danger to a team that cant NK her

her wagon smells gross

furthermore scum can only win if nobody has them as their top scumread, I think we need to question the lurkers more so scum cant hide
assuming they're all alive:

Cogito

, please explain your vote on DGB and explain your previous vote on kanye

JacobSavage

, what do you think of the DGB wagon? How do you feel about the growing BenMage wagon?

GuyInFreezer

, why haven't you posted yet? Who is your top scum suspect?

Venmar

, please fully explain your townread on OS since you know his play, please explain your DGB vote.

Quilford

, why did you ignore kanye's request? What do you think of his exchange with Matt?

I know its a bit shitty to shift attention to lurkers on the 2nd day but this is a really short game and we can't afford to let people get away with minimal posting when its probably the most effective way for scum to make sure nobody accuses them

[Kid A]

also i was going to ignore people trying to guess who im an alt of because it is hilarious but its getting dumb now

im genuinely not anyones alt, zoraster invited me to pre-in after his micro that I played in finished, presumably the same reason GIF pre-inned

honestly I was pretty surprised to get the PM, town got demolished in that game (mainly because GIF did a really good play)

[Kid A]

The epiphany is:

scum lose if even one of them gets caught out
scum dont get a nightkill
scum then needs to figure out who the top scumhunters are and hope for a mislynch on them

i honestly feel theres a strong possibility that DGB is town and the wagon is an attempt to prevent her ever-changing reads from landing on one of them

DGB is provably a top scumhunter and a danger to a team that cant NK her

her wagon smells gross

We're really not lacking for quality scumhunters. It seems fairly unlikely to me that scum's focus'll be to lower that number by 1.

Kid A, that sounds boring. Don't be boring.

ok im actually zoraster

[Kid A]

also cogito dont think i didnt notice you not responding to my questions you fuck

[Kid A]

you too venmar

Venmar

, please fully explain your townread on OS since you know his play, please explain your DGB vote.

[Kid A]

if that is the case reiterate it please

[Kid A]

fuck it this is worth a try

dont think youre off the hook bbmolla, if GIF appears my vote is going straight back on you

VOTE: GuyInFreezer

[Kid A]

Unvote, vote: GIF

give us some fucking input fuck you

[Kid A]

if you arent going to help town replace out

[Kid A]

So BB logs into MS, sees he has a PM. Receives his scum role PM, which also mentions that you can accuse, but the scum PM does not point out that you can do it right away. Then BBscum turns his attention to the game and doesn't even think to check about such a minor detail when he asks "hey can I prechoose DGB for tomorrow?"

A. Why would I choose anything if I'm scum
B. Why would I not PM the mod

C. Why are people taking a joke post seriously

but i specifically asked you about the post to see if it was a joke post and you didnt say it was

[Kid A]

VOTE: T-Bone

[Kid A]

VOTE: T-Bone

He's town why are you doing that?

Besides I want to win today.

VOTE: Oversoul

everyone else is doing shitty reaction tests so i picked the dumbest person to vote that i could

you guys should stop voting dgb s/he(?) isnt scum

[Kid A]

VOTE: Cogito

refuses to be proactive and wont even be reactive

probably scum trying to look like they're contributing without actually doing shit

[Kid A]

Im joining Kid on

This in general is a bad idea.

any chance of you explaining why you dont know whats in the town role pm btw

[Kid A]

Im joining Kid on

This in general is a bad idea.

any chance of you explaining why you dont know whats in the town role pm btw

I don't know what's in the scum one either, guess I'm third party.

(The question about pre-choosing wasn't really a question, note the lack of "@mod" and bolding)

(then why didnt you say that when I asked you about it?)

[Kid A]

Im joining Kid on

This in general is a bad idea.

any chance of you explaining why you dont know whats in the town role pm btw

I don't know what's in the scum one either, guess I'm third party.

(The question about pre-choosing wasn't really a question, note the lack of "@mod" and bolding)

(then why didnt you say that when I asked you about it?)

(Cause it should be obvious)

(I think you're backpedalling)

VOTE: BBMolla

[Kid A]

Alright, I'm making a list (these are really not in a particular order)

Likely Scum:

GuyInFridge, Venmar, Quilford, OS, JS, Molla

Meh:

Greygnarl, Kuribo, MattP, CES

VI:

KidA

can you explain the greygnarl read im uncertain on him

[Kid A]

GIF's fucking useless though. Let's stick him back in the freezer.

Unvote.

Vote: GIF

There is no point to a lurker lynch D1... Remember that speech I had about low hanging fruit being lynched to oft D1.. let's avoid it please.

we've already explained that we cant afford to go easy on lurkers, we need to be able to get reads on everyone

[Kid A]

I do have reads, and I've stated them very, very clearly.

Just to make sure I know what your reads are, tell me whether the below is correct

matt - town
oversoul - scum
dgb - town
kid a - town

kanye - unsure / null / no read, but explicitly stated
ces - ditto

yeahhh i feel like kanye wagon is good wagon

all aboard

good luck

ty ty

explain your oversoul scumread or im voting the shit out of you

[Kid A]

oops

[Kid A]

VOTE: CES

no way are you too busy to spend 5 minutes explaining your vote

[Kid A]

is drippinggoofbone meant to be CES in that post or what

[Kid A]

You did? I haven't read much since page ~19 or something.

hey fuck you

[Kid A]

You did? I haven't read much since page ~19 or something.

hey fuck you

Stop fucking him and vote him.

i dont think its scummy i just think fuck him

[Kid A]

VOTE: Venmar

I can see him and Overosoul or him and DGB being a team.

this makes no fucking sense and you know it

[Kid A]

VOTE: greygnarl

[Kid A]

[quote="In post 782, greygnarl"][/quote]
if you were going to sheep surely youd sheep someone who has geniuine reads and not your scumbuddy??

[Kid A]

i dunno how i did that but the post link is still there

[Kid A]

Name that 'controversial point'.

I see you have moved the goalposts from 'not needed' though.

are you even reading this game

did you miss benmage getting two not random votes on him??

[Kid A]

(1) He actually answers Quilford's stupid RQS questions, which is scummy.

lol

[Kid A]

quilford you should pick a less stupid vote

[Kid A]

Never mind I was wrong about the lynch stuff.

Zor said if a lynch occurs 7 Days into the 14 Day deadline you will have 7 days (until the end of the deadline) to discuss things post lynch.
So if I'm lynched now you all will have basically 10 days to talk.

mod can you verify this?

[Kid A]

Unless you're Kid A, calling me scum is scummy itself.

Why Kid A?

im village idiot apparently

[Kid A]

greygnarl explain your scumread on venmar because it looks to me like youre still pushing the scum-lurker read from a while back even though it doesnt apply to him anymore

[Kid A]

How about you just ISO me, i'm not going to hold your hand.

if you actually are town and you want gg lynched surely its not too much trouble to restate your case

[Kid A]

Need some CES reads pls I can't read him for shit

[Kid A]

my pre-invitation said mafia lovers and afaik lovers always have daytalk so thats why i thought scum had daytalk

quick look at the op confirmed it

[Kid A]

ask anyone who pre-inned

[Kid A]

they can look at their pm and see that it does say there are mafia lovers

[Kid A]

no

1) Read my pre-invitation and saw that there were mafia lovers, assume daytalk is in play
2) Ask about scum having an accuse and check the scum role pm to see if the bit about accusing is different
3) Question BBMolla
4)BBMolla stops responding
3) Check OP to make sure daytalk is definitely in the game (The pre-in had a couple of things in it that got changed, most notably it said that we would have 24 hours after the hammer to accuse so I needed to double check)
4) Ask him if he's gone quiet because he's in his qt

BBMolla I have not played a game with mafia lovers but I read over this game http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=26454 because it caught my eye in the micro queue as an interesting game, I didn't want to /in because it is apparently very hard for town to win the setup and I didn't think I had enough experience since I was only just out of newbies

[Kid A]

I _checked_ after the silence and before that post

I _assumed_ before because I knew the game was lovers

[Kid A]

also calm your tits I was looking for a link for bbmolla

[Kid A]

and by checked i mean checked the op

[Kid A]

of course it was a taunt but my taunt had to make sense

[Kid A]

no like i said i checked to see if my post wasnt bullshit

[Kid A]

anyway im not going anywhere tonight on account of me being town so if you want to waste your accuse on me tomorrow go ahead, as long as im not most accused it doesnt mean shit

in the meantime i need someone whos less dumb than me to explain their ces read

[Kid A]

if im scum accuse me tomorrow but id rather not get lynched today for obvious reasons

[Kid A]

so anyone got a decent read on ces because i need that

[Kid A]

by all means talk about how scummy i am i just genuinely need a ces read to get shit done

[Kid A]

like i said im trying to sort out my reads right now

ive got a table and everything

i would try and convince you i was town so you could read other people but it sounds like you have decent reads on everyone else right now

[Kid A]

VOTE: JacobSavage
subject to change

[Kid A]

yes you are right benmage

[Kid A]

i dont have to address mattp in every single post, if mattp just posts "vote kid a" but with more words whats the point trying to counter it when there's no argument in the post

[Kid A]

not really in court everyone else has to stop what theyre doing for me to talk about dumb shit but in mafia you can keep on discussing whatever you want while i sort out my vote

[Kid A]

yo im working on the table now

so far I have

JacobSavage
Scum
Medium
-*Towncredfishing*
-Lurky
-Fencesat Oversoul
-Vote DGB (no wagon)
-First on Ghostlin w/ misrep
-Unvoted Ghostlin (no wagon)
#502 - scum pov
#687 - misrep

Venmar
Town
Low
-*Lurk excuse*
-DGB Wagon (NRSN)
-RSN: Apes MattP w/ gut talk & meta talk
-Doesn’t like OSSCUM
-Doesn’t restate things
-Swung to GG battle after being sure on DGB
#306 – possible OS buddying

nothing for ces because nobody would help me

high/low/medium is confidence in read/strength of read
pretty sure the rest of it speaks for itself

working on Quilford now

[Kid A]

oh and ** denotes a brief description of their first post

[Kid A]

I just copied it out of my table if you can't read it I'll write it out properly later

pedit: why does him possibly buddying OS make OS scum?

[Kid A]

** denotes a brief description of his first post what part of that do you not understand

[Kid A]

pedit: why does him possibly buddying OS make OS scum?

You SAID, that he doesn't like the idea of OS as scum, meaning what?

Do YOU think OS is scum?

no I think that it is possible that Venmar tried to buddy OS in #306

venmar is doing the scummy thing there not OS

[Kid A]

hence "possible" you shitfuck

[Kid A]

Why would Venmar be scummy for listing Oversoul as town... if YOU YOURSELF believe oversoul to be town?

Why did you accuse greygnarl of pushing the Venmar "lurker lynch" when YOU YOURSELF used lurking as an excuse to "read" Venmar as scum?

I'm reading venmar as town, those are general notes on his play not a scum case

[Kid A]

god, you're right!

you've actually listed so many reasons to find him scummy

and listed a case as to why he could be scum

and even assumed he's buddying OS-town (which is something scum do by necessity at times)...

AND THEN CALLED HIM TOWN

do you not see the cognitive disconnect here?

hence "Low" under the townread, venmar is by far my lowest townread but he is a townread because he used meta decently and is steadfast in his GG scumread for now. #306 can be interpreted as OS buddying for mafia reasons but it could also be confidence in his OS townread, if buddying was always a scumtell mattp and kanye would probably have been lynched already

[Kid A]

I'm just sittin back sippin a bear ;o

that sounds painful

pedit:damnit bb

[Kid A]

he's not trying hard enough to convince me he's apathetic town.

there is no pleasing this guy

[Kid A]

nobody is my buddy because i am not scum

i did check that the daytalk was in the op because if it wasnt i was sure someone would start a wagon on me for seemingly knowing things i shouldnt, self preservation is important in this game so im more cautious with my posting than usual, i got lynched as scum in my newbie for mentioning something i shouldnt know and i didnt want to lose this game for the same thing (no im not scum this game but it was still a similar post to the one that got me killed) so i checked the op.

[Kid A]

like i said, i got some reservations on kid a scum. i like the angle youre pushing but im trying to decide if his over elaboration is due to scum or due to him being an inexperienced overeager player (like i initially read him). given the nature of the game im supplementing in partner speculation to aid me w. this.

Anyone that has been hesitant to call kid a scum has made me exceedingly paranoid. This includes Venmar, Oversoul, DGB and you. However, Venmar and OS fixed it when they voted.

you should be more suspicious of OS and Venmar because im town

[Kid A]

ive been asleep and woke up 20 minutes ago

[Kid A]

Here's something:

If you don't lynch Kid A and he fless YOU WILL NEVER LIVE IT DOWN

if i get hammered i will personally pm you every day to remind you how you murdered me

[Kid A]

quilford you should change your vote because i really dont see a kkb lynch happening

[Kid A]

Why? Most of my reads are based on gut.

then why did you say you put a lot of thought in

[Kid A]

can we focus on JS first i think he is more likely scum

[Kid A]

benmage confscum

[Kid A]

that was a joke post btw

[Kid A]

nobody else vote js btw

[Kid A]

dumb stuff

I said don't vote him because he's at l-2 you dumb

[Kid A]

nvm im the dumb

someone lynch js because we have just over 5 days left

[Kid A]

take a fucking guess

[Kid A]

my vote is on JS so obviously i think he's scum, I'm looking through people's ISOs to see who's partnering him but right now but based on interaction it's benmage or Ghostlin

based on overall play benmage is the most likely

[Kid A]

based on interaction it's benmage or Ghostlin

based on overall play benmage is the most likely

I totally agree that ghostlin is town as fuck

[Kid A]

stop being a shitfuck pls

[Kid A]

Oversoul - Leaning Scum, he's playing really weird, and his ignore Jacob posts set me off.

How am I ignoring Jacob?
I'm pretty sure I called him town when DGB made that reads list.

I still think he is town.

strawman ho!

how is a direct quote from you a strawman

[Kid A]

seriously i think we should hammer jacob today

[Kid A]

ces who do you think ovetsouls partner is?

[Kid A]

this shit is unacceptable, i honestly do not give a fuck if i'm diverting attention from a likely scum, I don't think benmage should be allowed to get away with this shit any longer

VOTE: benmage

[Kid A]

the thing is I don't think benmage and js can be scum together

if one of you two could be less scummy i would be much obliged

[Kid A]

i'm fucking torn

I would like jacob to die but i would also like ben to die

any objection to me putting jacob at l-1

[Kid A]

fuck it i'm gonna go with my gut and if im wrong i know exactly who im accusing tomorrow

VOTE: JacobSavage

[Kid A]

no he's at l-1

[Kid A]

brb killing self

[Kid A]

proposed pact:

if someone pulls a "fuck you guys" and decides to keep all of their information private we all accuse them

[Kid A]

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

KID A YOU JUST SET THAT SHIT UP?

go fuck yourself you shouted at me for voting the scum and you didnt unvote when you almost definitely saw me put js at l-1

[Kid A]

i feel like putting my accuse on kuribo is a retarded play and yet him and ben makes sense

[Kid A]

Kid a, fuck you pal. dont give me shit about retarded play when you are the fucking king of all thay

and no i didnt see you put him at L-1

if i'd thought you were gonna hop back, i'd have stayed where i was

you are fucking ridiculous.

you posted before and after i put him at l-1 and i even stated i was putting him at l-1

enjoy losing because my accuse is going on you and staying there

VOTE: end game

[Kid A]

if its ces i will drink my own urine

[Kid A]

self preservation isnt a scumtell in this game

[Kid A]

Ya. Matt is in other games and he has been mighty flaky this past month but as far as I can tell, Kanye's tell might be legit so... I would like more clarification on that if possible Kanye

wow what the fuck is this

[Kid A]

hahaha i was secretly the best player

[Kid A]

thanks for being a great mod zor, this is by far the most fun ive had on mafiascum so far

[Kid A]

also who did t-bone have his accuse on?

[Kid A]

yeah im not really sure what happened there

[Kid A]

you were good too kuribo, I didn't even suspect you until that post made me go back and reread your iso