Mini 1407 (Game Over)

[Cheery Dog]

Vote Count 4.4

N (3) Lincolm, DeasVail, projectmatt
projectmatt (3) N, Master Mew, havingfitz

Master Mew (0)
havingfitz (0)
Empire (0)
Lincolm (0)
DeasVail (0)

Not voting: Empire

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 4 Deadline:

(expired on 2013-02-26 17:32:51)

[havingfitz]

Mod...I will be v/LA from Monday through Thursday night (ie normal activity will resume Friday).

Reminder...

mod...I'm on vacation this week and will be v/LA until Friday morning.

I should be able to check in on phone occasionally but only for very limited phone posting. Hopefully it won't matter.

[projectmatt]

vote: N

dumb. you guys are fully aware that i'm town and you really shouldn't lynch me on a "lol we cant decide on anyone else" lynch

Remind us why we should be "fully aware" of this, please. I missed it.

It appears as though Having/Lincolm were both somewhat thinking to themselves that I should be lynched due to the fact that the deadline is approaching and that I'm a potential target. I can't make a strong case for me being town, but through my actions this game (as well as the poor actions through other players) I can explain that any point that's been made towards me is blatantly false and I've done my best to retort it. I understand when people scumread me in games, but the reasoning for the votes here are completely unknown to me.

Havingfitz keep's linking back to the same post, which includes his case and something about how since I've bussed as scum, I might be scum this game. I've previously torn apart his case (admittedly pretty rudely when I was at L-1) The points are either stretches or straight up lies which he has failed to counter. Now that he apparently has a scumread on me again, I'd love to hear his reasoning.

Lynching me is a bad idea because for all I am aware of, I should be being townread pretty clearly right now.

[Lincolm]

@Matt : I clearly don't know you're town or not. The other also, I just have a townread in them, except my suspect.

Yes, it is bad for have a policy lynch, I don't like it also, but I'm not like Bub who can convince all of you to join vote my suspect. But it is clearly if the last scum vote on you, 2 townies see you scummy.

Seems I really try to have a policy lynch here. Sorry, but my read on you is null.

@Mew : You don't give reason on your vote.

[Empire]

Alright, finally got a chance to reread projectmatt's interactions with flipped scum.

#40 -- This is the start of the early back and forth Rob/projectmatt have in the early game regarding the latter's entrance and I'm leaning towards this pointing against them being a team given that Rob appears to suspect projectmatt fairly seriously starting here and projectmatt does seem to expend some energy in fighting this argument off. The one thing I don't like is that both seem to have dropped it somewhat soon and they never go back to it at all. Rob later calls the projectmatt/chkflip argument scum/scum but focuses most of his energy on chkflip despite saying he's more confident in projectmatt being scum in #239. However, I'm in agreement with DV that #396 doesn't seem like a bus vote and I think that's amplified by HD's vote in #400, the latter especially comes across like a lazy attempt to waste a ML rather than a bus considering he hadn't even so much as read the thread.

Plus, there are aspects of his individual play that read town, and I'd be lying if I didn't see his paranoia of me being genuine (especially given our off-site history together).

Looking over the arguments against N's slot as well, between these two, I'm going to have to go with...

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Vote: N

Really sorry if I'm wrong on this. If this is wrong, I'd say lynch Mew tomorrow -- aside from that, I don't really know. Good luck in case I die.

[Cheery Dog]

Vote Count 4.4

N (4) Lincolm, DeasVail, projectmatt, Empire

LYNCH!

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projectmatt (3) N, Master Mew, havingfitz
Master Mew (0)
havingfitz (0)
Empire (0)
Lincolm (0)
DeasVail (0)

Not voting:

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With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 4 Deadline:

(expired on 2013-02-26 17:32:51)

[Cheery Dog]

He who complains about my lack of good flavour gets none on his death.

N,

Vanilla Townie

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has been lynched Day 4

Night 4 Deadline:

(expired on 2013-02-28 12:29:05)

, please have any actions in by then, even though day won't be starting for at approximately 6 hours after than since it falls while I sleep

[Cheery Dog]

3.5 hours n6 hours same diff

The news has it that the Empire fell during the night, is this an end to mafia everywhere? No, it's only the player Empire in this game whose body you found after you raised he was missing.

Empire

,

Vanilla Townie

, killed night 4.

It is now day 5, with 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch

Deadline is in

(expired on 2013-03-14 16:02:10)

[Lincolm]

Empire

So...

Havingfitz and Matt, what is your read about Mew? Also what is your read on DV and me?

Mew, what is your comment about get lynched today as Empire said? Also what is your read on Matt and Fitz?

Okay, Empire said to lynch Mew today. Basically because his last post. So... I still don't have a reason why we need to lynch him.

[projectmatt]

stuff later

[DeasVail]

No Empire

Anyway, what PMatt said.

[havingfitz]

Back from v/la. Will try to get caught up in all my games sometime today.

[Cheery Dog]

Vote Count 5.0

projectmatt (0)
Master Mew (0)
havingfitz (0)
Lincolm (0)
DeasVail (0)

Not voting: Lincolm, DeasVail, projectmatt, Master Mew, havingfitz

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Master Mew is V/LA until March 5.

Day 5 Deadline

(expired on 2013-03-14 16:02:10)

[projectmatt]

this is somewhat of a prod dodge. i do have a question for deasvail, though:

were you expecting empire to die tonight, or were you somewhat surprised?

curious what position some of you are going to take

[DeasVail]

I didn't have anyone in mind that was going to die, but when I saw Empire's name, it wasn't very surprising. My thoughts were more along the lines of, "So they finally killed him."

[Lincolm]

Thought that Empire isn't going to be lynched by any circumstance, so Empire gets killed wasn't weird. I believe it goes same to me and DV.

By the way Matt, can you explain your paranoid to Empire before?

Also, because N is town, maybe Mew is town consider that Rob tried to mislynch Mew after he got lynched.

[projectmatt]

i've confidently townread empire the entire game - it's a read that i've never really shown doubt on due to both his play and his preceder play. the only reason i showed a little bit of paranoia was due to the fact that we have quite an off-site history and i'm fully aware he can play a capable scum game. i doubt that i would have ever voted him, though

anyway im going to look at the interactions with Rob later. I've already casually done some reading in this game and I'm pretty sure I know where my train of thought is heading but I gotta confirm a few things

[havingfitz]

This game is dragging. I don't think anyone denies Lincolm is probably town. I've had a town read (or at least no scum read) on the deasvail slot all game iirc so that leaves me with matt and Mew. With what I assume is one scum left...I like town's odds.

VOTE: Matt

[projectmatt]

A. Why do you have a townread on Deas?
B. Why me over Master Mew first?

[DeasVail]

Probably

V/LA for 3 days, maybe less

. I will still post probably, but tonight is an example of me not posting properly when I otherwise would have.

[havingfitz]

Matt...

a) I elaborated on my "town read" on Deasvail (DV) when I said I at least had no scum read on him. I just don't recall anything throughout the game that DV or Deltabacon (DB) have said or done that made me go...."WTF?" While at various times in the game I have had suspicions towards you and Mew (and even N when he was Junpei) and I am confident the last scum is within you or Mew. Also, DV/DB have been considered town iirc by most of the players the entire game. The slot only has 1 vote on it the entire game (by Mew yesterday).

b) I'm voting you over Mew because I had my initial suspicions towards you first combined with the meta I dug up on you. Playing devil's advocate....Mew could easily be scum as well if you look at his vote history and the way Rob was such a fan of his throughout the game. And Mew seemed to have quite the townread on Rob as well.

If we didn't have the presumed luxury of another mislynch I do not know who I would vote. If it were LYLO I would not have my vote on you so quickly and would be looking things over more closely. It really is close between the two of you. You for your early unusual play and meta and Mew for his voting habits and the interactions between he and Rob.

I'd really like to know what Lincolm and Deasvail think. And you too for that matter Matt.

12 posts in 5 days is pretty weak.

Also @Lincolm...do my comments above answer your question to me in Post 1033?

[havingfitz]

[projectmatt]

mm okay thanks for the explanation, i have reads but i'll get to actually posting about them tomorrow

[Master Mew]

This sounds bad, but I really

don't

have substantial reads. I have a lot of hearsay about havingfitz, Lincolm, and DeasVail being obv-town and projectmatt being scummy, but everything's pretty sketchy for me.

MOST TOWN

havingfitz
Lincolm
Deasvail
projectmatt

LEAST TOWN

Vote: Matt

The concensus has been for a long time that the Scum was between Matt, N, and I - heck, even the three of us seemed to agree that the scum was within the three of us. N flipped Town, and I'm not lynching myself, so... here we are.

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