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Post Post #72 (isolation #0) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:19 am

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Thaaaanks mod for telling me day one started. I really appreciate it ^~^
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Hello guys. Wanna catch me up real quick so I don't have to read 50 posts? >.>
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Post Post #74 (isolation #1) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:24 am

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I didn't think you'd be into that kind of stuff Image
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Post Post #76 (isolation #2) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:36 am

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Oi. Thanks :3
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Post Post #84 (isolation #3) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:40 pm

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VOTE: Thor

The only thing I'm seeing from this guy is that he wants to lynch someone, and not so much as they're scum.
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Post Post #87 (isolation #4) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:54 pm

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In post 8, Thor665 wrote:Thank you for admiting I'm a good player - that actually seems like a less than good reason to vote me to start.
You should sheep my vote, Vintermute is scum.

In post 60, Thor665 wrote:Zabriel is also an acceptable lynch.

I'd like to see him or Vintermute get a couple more votes.

In post 64, Thor665 wrote:And I think most of you are scummy.

Though, actually it doesn't describe most of them. Feel free to quote the others saying we need more info while voting no one and offering no reads though. I'll help you lynch whoever you find.

In post 73, Thor665 wrote:Sure - sheep me.

In post 70, Thor665 wrote:
In post 62, Thor665 wrote:Zabriel is scum

Nah, I'm not sure what I'm saying.
I'm probably calling him town. I'll check and get back to you.

That last one seemed like you were lying. (if these things go in the order that I clicked them in. If not, post)

I may be getting you mixed up with someone else, but I'd still say you're trying to get a lynch, not so much as scum; using scumminess acting as a clever ploy to get a lynch. which is what mafia does anyway
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Post Post #89 (isolation #5) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:18 pm

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I agree with him ^
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Post Post #93 (isolation #6) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:27 pm

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I don't see why. He hasn't logged in since his last post. I don't see why he would want to keep coming on as invisible
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Post Post #105 (isolation #7) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:07 pm

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No Thor. NO.
Bad Thor. You're going hear more about this when you get home young man >:(
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Post Post #110 (isolation #8) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:38 pm

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Nope. I'll ignore if completely :3
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Post Post #117 (isolation #9) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:08 pm

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Not at the moment.I just iso'd thor first and chose him. I'm too lazy to catch up ('-' )
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Post Post #131 (isolation #10) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:16 pm

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In post 128, Thor665 wrote:
In post 110, theslimer3 wrote:Nope. I'll ignore if completely :3

How many games of mafia have you played? Ballpark.

In post 111, Vintermute wrote:Serious question: In other games did scum hunting involve trying to get one to two people lynched from the beginning?

For me - yes.
What of it?

In post 113, leviathan93 wrote:Ok. I kind of believe Vintermute now as town. it may be a bad call for you thor but I sense authenticity in him. at least compared to others in this game. I don't know about you. you say a lot without saying much, but that doesn't mean scum.

You sense authenticity in him as he mmbles around being unable to even really say why he's doing something? How does that work?

In post 117, theslimer3 wrote:Not at the moment.I just iso'd thor first and chose him. I'm too lazy to catch up ('-' )

For 3 pages? (2.5 if we take out all the mod drivel)
Replace out? Clearly forum mafia is not the game for you.

In post 123, Edosurist wrote:IMO, this last series of comments shows Vintersmute is town. It appears as if he's trying to prove himself by showing that we can't trust Thor.

He's actually said that he was specifically *not* doing that.
So why do you have this read?

In post 123, Edosurist wrote:@Thor - I'm not sure reaction fishing by not answering a question is the best thing right now.

Why not? They can't seem to puzzle together anything on their own, might as well give them some stuff to respond to.

6. And don't get too butthurt buddy, it's a noob game. If you have a problem with my singling you out, out of all the others, then I sincerely apologize v.v
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Post Post #134 (isolation #11) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:20 pm

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I answered the first one and told you how I feel about your other questions. You clearly don't like my playstyle of voting you, and you should probably either ignore me or keep trying to talk to me as though I'm your unequal
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Post Post #137 (isolation #12) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:23 pm

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In post 135, Thor665 wrote:I do think you're my unequal - what of it?

Are you "butt-hurt" by that to the degree you don't think you'll answer any questions?

Why yes I am. I'm healing currently :c

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Post Post #144 (isolation #13) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:46 pm

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OKAY FIIIIIIIIIIIIIINEE GODDDDD

Everyone's trying to make me go serious and stuff today.
I'll be back with my reads once I'm done reading
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Post Post #149 (isolation #14) » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:03 pm

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Nvm. Bed. Night
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Post Post #169 (isolation #15) » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:37 pm

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Alright Thor, I've learned, scum or no scum, you'd be beneficial. You're playing rather leniently-aggressively, so you could be right. your guy seems to be doing pretty well under pressure so I don't think he's scum.

I'll back off you. UNVOTE:


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Post Post #183 (isolation #16) » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:00 am

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In post 174, Mirhawk wrote:Slimer do you have anything to say about any players other than Thor? I ask because aside from the hissy fit the two of you had you haven't really said fuck all.

Also I would be interested in UC's take on the players who are less in the spotlight.

I don't particularly find Zabriel's Wagon that attractive. It does look rather like he's lurking a bit, but at the same time that may just be because the rest of of are posting quite a bit. I don't disagree with anything he has said either.

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Not lynching someone today would be a waste of our time. Even if we lynch a townie instead of scum we will be able to analyze who voted for who tomorrow. Which would be useless information if we don't know if the person voted flipped scum or town.

Yes I do. I've been quite unuseful despite my posting.
I find the Vintermute wagon quite attractive though
Lets see what happens when I put him at L-1

VOTE: vintermute

Will someone hammer or see something wrong here.
Doesn't matter much to me. Equal chance of him to flip scum.
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Post Post #187 (isolation #17) » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:58 am

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In post 186, leviathan93 wrote:I'm sorry. i really don't see the Vintermute wagon attractive. I find the zabriel one more attractive then the vintermute one. I have my hunch that he is more scum then Vintermute is and I'm not voting vintermute just to see him flip town and be wrong. even if it does help us out in the end. even if both he and zabriel are town and I'm wrong to begin with. I feel we can lynch zabriel the first day and if we are still wary of Vintermute then its a possibility of lynching him the second. if he doesn't die during the night that is.

Your reason for not hammering is gut.

Confirm scum trying to not look suspicious.

VOTE: Levian
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Post Post #206 (isolation #18) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:49 pm

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I have a reason for that ^
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Post Post #208 (isolation #19) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:54 pm

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Yes I'm reading, no I can't answer yet,
As for my l-1 vote, I said it was souly for the purpose of information.
My Levaian vote was because I think his gut reasoning was an excuse

I can't answer because on phone and it was a pain in the Ass just to type what I just wrote
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Post Post #209 (isolation #20) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:55 pm

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In post 200, leviathan93 wrote:...*face palm* yes slimer. my reason for not hammering is gut. As Mirhawk said, I have been against the Vintermute wagon for a while now. I personally think thats reason enough. Though I do believe that Thor has been the most active scumhunter and probably is the most experienced, and he says that Vintermute is scum I still believe him a little. Yes, its true we can always lynch him Day 2. so I don't see much of a problem there. I do want to hear you opinion of what EDO said. Is gut scummy?

I'll answer this later btw, don't worry
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Post Post #214 (isolation #21) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:16 pm

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In post 200, leviathan93 wrote:...*face palm* yes slimer. my reason for not hammering is gut. As Mirhawk said, I have been against the Vintermute wagon for a while now. I personally think thats reason enough. Though I do believe that Thor has been the most active scumhunter and probably is the most experienced, and he says that Vintermute is scum I still believe him a little. Yes, its true we can always lynch him Day 2. so I don't see much of a problem there. I do want to hear you opinion of what EDO said. Is gut scummy?

Just saying. Could be reasoning. Confirm was a hasty word.

@the IC player: Lets do this. Vote me out of this game and lose a townie. I dare you ;$
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Post Post #216 (isolation #22) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:48 pm

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Oh thank God, we gonna get awey with dis
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Post Post #220 (isolation #23) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:47 pm

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In post 217, zabriel wrote:Obligatory post-holiday greeting. Hope it was good for everybody.

Obligatory notices: I am going V/LA because I have the GRE coming up, so I'm going in full-study mode soon. I'm also detoxing, so I'm not sure what that's gonna do to me. Currently, it's doing headache.

I think Vint is still the best vote for today. I'm not really sure what to think about Leviathan right now. Every time I feel like I've got a read on him he either changes up or I've just been misreading him badly enough that it seems like he's changing a lot. Regardless of Vinter's alignment, it's likely that scum is already on the wagon, because it looks bad to be off the wagon, and it looks bad to hammer. Thor is probably not scum since he's first on the wagon, which leaves Mirhawk and Slimer. If scum is off: I haven't really read enough of Uct and Robert to get a feel for either of them, and Edo looks good. He's pressing slimer hard and seems pretty engaged in the game.

He's an IC, he's suppose to challenge the noobies. He has a controlling voice and thunder like dragon breath that he breathes on townies and scum alike. You only need to fear him of you have something to fear. Though on a scum side, it lures you in.
He's played.enough games to see through who's knew scum and who's not, and im sure he's attacking people who thinks is town on purpose. What am I saying?
don't get too attached to something that looks real. Sometimes if we practice hard enough, we can imitate it, and make it out of nothing.
This player can be real or fake, and there's no way to tell. That's all I can advise you to look out for
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Post Post #224 (isolation #24) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:15 pm

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VOTE: vintermute

What's your move, Levian? Still hammering?

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Post Post #226 (isolation #25) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:16 pm

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^@ edo
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Post Post #229 (isolation #26) » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:07 am

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In post 221, Edosurist wrote:@Thor - My disappointment/gut feeling for the towntell was supposed to be semi-ironic, but still semi-true. It wasn't supposed to be that I'm disappointed because I realized he's town, but because my first gut impression was wrong. And I don't have a link because I've never said something like that before, soo...

@slimer
I don't understand what you're doing anymore. Are you just forfeiting :/ It kinda looks like it. And what's this:
Oh thank God, we gonna get awey with dis




Meh, I never really believed in my Zab vote. It was mainly to bandwagon for the sake of pressure and trying to fish a reaction.
UNVOTE: Zabriel Thor's suspicion of Vintermute made me rethink my read on him. Eh, I think he's right. So I think I'm going to go with it for now. This better be right.
VOTE: Vintermute

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L-1
. So if somebody feels like hammering, please ask for a role claim from him and let everyone discuss it until we're satisfied.*

That's something I stole from.a prank call of a man who pretended to have blood all.over the ground and called a cleaning service to.get rid of it and he keeps talking about "Man, I might actually get awey wit dis"

It's hilarious

P.s. I'm a jester in every game I play, just look at my Godfather Mafia game that just passed xD
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Post Post #232 (isolation #27) » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:12 am

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Him today, me tomorrow. Deal?
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Post Post #234 (isolation #28) » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:26 am

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I'll go make the tea
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Post Post #241 (isolation #29) » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:29 am

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In post 239, Edosurist wrote:Vintermute, don't claim. If somebody ACTUALLY wanted to hammer, they should ask for you to claim to prevent backlash from the town tomorrow. leviathan was being really strange by trying to force a claim out of you, and I don't exactly like it.

Your last vote also seems like you're trying to weasel your way out of your own wagon by voting for the next popular lynch.

And Ucitriton, Robert, and Zabriel all need to find a way to get back :|

He knows he's safe. Thor is going to change his vote and slowly I'll get wagoned. It is f
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Post Post #244 (isolation #30) » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:20 am

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Quite the opposite. I haven't agreed with a single person here yet. I'm stepping in and working my way into being known like I do in all my games.
If I have to look a little scummy to get everyone's attention, then so be it
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Post Post #246 (isolation #31) » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:02 pm

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In post 89, theslimer3 wrote:I agree with him ^

Yup, you're right

The more reckless I am, the more information I get. Either deal with me, or find a way to trigger my seriousness ^~^
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Post Post #248 (isolation #32) » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:17 pm

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Absolutely nothing yet
Well that's a lie, but I'll give you my.reads when I get on pc
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Post Post #250 (isolation #33) » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:38 pm

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Edo: A quick minded person. His logic isn't exactly on point, but it is quite the easily flawed logic. He tends to agree with people and watch what people do. He notices things, but draws conclusions a little too quickly. I beleive him to be a rookie (not noobie) townie. And by this, I don't think everyone should hop on him just because of a mistake that he makes, because at his mind pace, that's what he'll do. (no insult intended, it's a flaw)
town


Levian: He mentioned in the beginning "i'm guessing a quick lynch seems out of the question." which raises quite a few flags in my mind. No townie should want a quick lynch. Even if they are a power role and waiting to use their ability, you're after information, not your own personal excitement. However this could be true and he could be a brand new noobie.
But this type of thinking is VERY dangerous in a game you're taking seriously
(Yea, I did it in a game you were in, but I was being the world's biggest idiot xDD)
But however he does give insight wherever possible. Though most of them appears to be guy. I think this may be due to the fact that he's scum.
possible scum


Mirhawk: He seems to take a liking to Thor. Not sure if the two played in another game together, but there's some weird bond vibe I'm feeling here. It goes down the line and I'm also seeing him sort of acting like a weaker version of him. Perhaps he finds him rolemodel like, or maybe it's because he wants to be like you. Nevertheless, his accusations are legitimate and believable. He plays as though he's a normal townie, so I don't see much harm coming from him.
leaning town


Thor: A commanding townie. Rathful, attacking and wont ease up if your submit to his pressure. He's not the mafia type who likes to hide, then pop out when it's time to vote. And he's not the townie type to make light of any claim used against him. I can agree he's an IC, and all I'm saying is be careful of the fact that he could be scum, leading town into a pit of despair.
Equal chance flip


Uct: No reads
N/A


Vinter: Inquisitive, defensive, indecisive, and challenging.
I can easily see him as scum, but just the same as townie. He can defend himself well, and I see no real signs of him acting scummy. I can say for night one he poses no real threat.
Equal chance flip


Zabriel: He hasn't posted much at all, but I've gathered some things. He's a quick minded person. He likes to make points about things, but about Levan's quickscum post, he didn't really care much about him saying so, just saying it was not a good idea. So if Levian flips scum, believe that he will as well. I just believe this to be true.
leaning townish



Sooooooooooooo
VOTE: Levian because that quicklynch thing was redundant and scummy.
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Post Post #268 (isolation #34) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:12 pm

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Edosirst wrote:

Uh, didn't we go over this? Leviathan said that he meant a lynch on D1 as a quicklynch. Do you think he faked that excuse as a coverup? It's also strange that your vote on him didn't touch up on him wanting Vinter to claim.[/quote]Yes it is exactly how I feel. It's something a child would do to cover up his mistakes.
Also what do you mean by strange?


I don't quite understand where you got this from. Mind giving me an example?



In post 13, Edosurist wrote:^ Wouldn't you say that Thor is also confident about you? Failing to mention that makes it seem like you're trying to brush off that vote.
VOTE: Vintermute
You may be right, Thor!

In post 9, Edosurist wrote:Well naturally, the IC must be scum, right? But you make a convincing argument...

In post 239, Edosurist wrote:Vintermute, don't claim. If somebody ACTUALLY wanted to hammer, they should ask for you to claim to prevent backlash from the town tomorrow. leviathan was being really strange by trying to force a claim out of you, and I don't exactly like it.

Your last vote also seems like you're trying to weasel your way out of your own wagon by voting for the next popular lynch.

And Ucitriton, Robert, and Zabriel all need to find a way to get back :|





I disagree with this. Explain how you came to that.



@Mod
- You say there are 2 votes on Zab, but you've only recorded the vote by leviathan.[/quote]I'll have to finish this later
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Post Post #271 (isolation #35) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:33 pm

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Sorry, I had no time to proofread at all, I just had to post. I promise I'll get back.to that though, I know it looks sloppy as hell
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Post Post #274 (isolation #36) » Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:05 am

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Checking in, still can't reply like I want to yet. Sorry.
I can still read everything though
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Post Post #288 (isolation #37) » Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:38 pm

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Yeah I'm so sorry guys. I totally can't handle this many games this week. I don't urge you to kill me though, I'll switch out
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Post Post #290 (isolation #38) » Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:48 pm

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mod, can you please allow me to Kick Thor's ass and replace out?
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Post Post #291 (isolation #39) » Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:49 pm

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This Fucking phone >.>
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Post Post #304 (isolation #40) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:58 am

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In post 295, StrangerCoug wrote:
In post 290, theslimer3 wrote:
mod, can you please allow me to Kick Thor's ass and replace out?

Not to kick Thor's ass, but are you sure you want to replace out?

I guess no, but I'll keep requesting that asskicking

@Thor: You're more than fine. I realize that non-microgames aren't really my.forté yet xD


@uct: That's l-2, normally when I turn normal. I SHALL READ EVERYTHING
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Post Post #310 (isolation #41) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:35 am

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Welp, I failed.

I'm a jailkeeper, a valuable asset to the team, and I've self destructed myself here. I normally get out of these things by getting serious and posting reads, that NORMALLY contradict someone elses, which on this case would be edo, and through that, argue my innocence and counter their lies. That or kill myself taking someone else out with me.

However this time I should have been more cautious with a power role. That's why I wanted to switch out. Sorry for not being more careful with my role. Good luck on day two
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Post Post #311 (isolation #42) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:38 am

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All I can say is don't clear someone completely or be completely convinced that someone is scum, they could be against or for.you at any time.
If anyone here strikes me as scum, it really is Levan. He just seems too cautious to be noobtown, it seems more like he doesn't want attention to himself.

P.s. I'm a guy, so stop saying she -.-
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Post Post #334 (isolation #43) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:26 am

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In post 312, Thor665 wrote:@Slimer - as long as your avatar is that pink you'll always be a girl to me ;)

In a general play sense you actually didn't need to claim - all I'd asked for is evidence that you shouldn't die...which was really request #3,219 for you to do...anything.
That said, a claim will likely stop the wagon.

If you are indeed town then I would note that if you take everyone voting you and add me to them - you probably get at least one scum.
Even if you aren't town this probably holds true.

theslimer3 (?): Vintermute, Leviathan, Mirhawk, Uctriton, Thor


Do you think Leviathan's vote was the worst one on you?
I agree he's pretty derp, but I'm currently leaning rather firmly town on him at the moment and tend to look askance at Uct and Vint. Mirhawk's vote on you makes sense from a frustrated townie side, and you well deserved frustrated townie votes (which is annoying because it makes looking at this wagon less clean). I think Uct looks bad for putting you at L-1 and not mentioning it...now, maybe he's just terrible enough not to have realized (which would actually be a town tell) but with so many votes pouring in on one page I have my doubts. Vint is there for me mostly due to inertia - but he's been playing anti-town for a while now.

What are your thoughts?

@TheoryRealJailkeeper - normally I don't advise counterclaims on Day 1, but with a Jailkeeper it is totally worth it. I would advocate waiting till after Slimer has responded with some real thoughts on the game, and then counterclaim him. I'll explain more strategy on this later at that point. Also, if you don't counterclaim prior to the end of Day 1 then any claims of Jailkeeper on Day 2+ will be taken as a claim of 'Scum'.
Just saying.
I will be honest, me being called she made it a hell of a lot easier to see when someone was talking about me.

However, on your words, I'd say it was not. (Levan's vote on me)
This was
uctriton00 wrote:Please don't replace that slot out. Slimer needs to go down with the ship. I don't want slimer successfully ditching possible scum meta history.

Sorry for not participating as much but holidays are over and I'm back to free time.

Vote: slimer
This right here tells me he just wants me out, and gone. I'll admit I've been acting unbarable, but quick lynching anyone just to get them out (like levian's quicklynch) is scummy and anti-townie.

If I'm going to die, I want to die leaving everyone who thought they could get away with it exposed. I play the fool, but I wont die the fool. Believe that much as a fact.
I think there is not one, but two scum in my train. Not because it's gut, I think it's because they really want me out and for night to begin. Once that happens, they'll eliminate the person who's on their trails, and sail this game to freedom.

Yes, I had no reason to reveal my roll, but I honestly thought I was going to get hammered by you, simply because you thought I was lying (then I'd probably turn the tables on you before I was actually lynched)
However, it may have seem townie that you stopped things from going worse, taking control is a danger to me due to how many games I've played and how someone taking control was the badguy all along (I dislike those who take charge, it gives others a smaller voice)
So if I am to die, be sure that uct is investigated more, he seems more likely to make this wagon all the more attractive.

In post 314, uctriton00 wrote:
In post 310, theslimer3 wrote:I'm a jailkeeper, a valuable asset to the team,


We have had a
claim
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If there is a REAL jailkeeper among you, please post and say that you're the real jailkeeper, and that slimer is in fact lying about their role. Don't do this by quoting the PM, just say "yes I'm the actual jailkeeper".

Don't think "but I don't want to die!". You're not GOING to die by counterclaiming, you're helping the town. The town will not lynch you during the day. And at night, you can defend yourself by using your jailkeeper power. It is worth it, and you would be a clear candidate for MVP if you provide the counter claim.

And Thor that was an L-2, what are you talking about. There were 2 votes at the time. Was the VC wrong?
Are you role fishing? Because it sure as hell looks like it.

In post 316, Vintermute wrote:Leviathan and Uct I think are town.

Leviathan I still think is just noobish town.

Uct because he is experienced and if he had been scum he would have been WAY more careful to not look like a lurker.

@Slimer:
So you had a power role and decided to go for an almost get lynched and then work your way out of it strategy? okay.....
And we shouldn't kill you cause you claimed? How about you fix/finish that post that was going to actually add something to the game.
I was never going to reveal it. I just did it because I thought I was already dead. It would give you guys a little more time to converse before the mod finished things. (with me in it a little)
I finally got a hold of a pc so I'll give as much insight as I can to your comment before I end things here (I have a lot of games to do this on... Sigh...)
I can't exactly finish what I started because I didn't gather enough information. The people who really go in dept on this game investigates everyone in their own special way through psychology or tricky language.
Unfortunately it appears everyone just started an angry riot against me which gathered no information.

However I do say watch out for Uct and Levian.
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Post Post #335 (isolation #44) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:26 am

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In post 312, Thor665 wrote:@Slimer - as long as your avatar is that pink you'll always be a girl to me ;)

In a general play sense you actually didn't need to claim - all I'd asked for is evidence that you shouldn't die...which was really request #3,219 for you to do...anything.
That said, a claim will likely stop the wagon.

If you are indeed town then I would note that if you take everyone voting you and add me to them - you probably get at least one scum.
Even if you aren't town this probably holds true.

theslimer3 (?): Vintermute, Leviathan, Mirhawk, Uctriton, Thor


Do you think Leviathan's vote was the worst one on you?
I agree he's pretty derp, but I'm currently leaning rather firmly town on him at the moment and tend to look askance at Uct and Vint. Mirhawk's vote on you makes sense from a frustrated townie side, and you well deserved frustrated townie votes (which is annoying because it makes looking at this wagon less clean). I think Uct looks bad for putting you at L-1 and not mentioning it...now, maybe he's just terrible enough not to have realized (which would actually be a town tell) but with so many votes pouring in on one page I have my doubts. Vint is there for me mostly due to inertia - but he's been playing anti-town for a while now.

What are your thoughts?

@TheoryRealJailkeeper - normally I don't advise counterclaims on Day 1, but with a Jailkeeper it is totally worth it. I would advocate waiting till after Slimer has responded with some real thoughts on the game, and then counterclaim him. I'll explain more strategy on this later at that point. Also, if you don't counterclaim prior to the end of Day 1 then any claims of Jailkeeper on Day 2+ will be taken as a claim of 'Scum'.
Just saying.
I will be honest, me being called she made it a hell of a lot easier to see when someone was talking about me.

However, on your words, I'd say it was not. (Levan's vote on me)
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Sorry for not participating as much but holidays are over and I'm back to free time.

Vote: slimer
This right here tells me he just wants me out, and gone. I'll admit I've been acting unbarable, but quick lynching anyone just to get them out (like levian's quicklynch) is scummy and anti-townie.

If I'm going to die, I want to die leaving everyone who thought they could get away with it exposed. I play the fool, but I wont die the fool. Believe that much as a fact.
I think there is not one, but two scum in my train. Not because it's gut, I think it's because they really want me out and for night to begin. Once that happens, they'll eliminate the person who's on their trails, and sail this game to freedom.

Yes, I had no reason to reveal my roll, but I honestly thought I was going to get hammered by you, simply because you thought I was lying (then I'd probably turn the tables on you before I was actually lynched)
However, it may have seem townie that you stopped things from going worse, taking control is a danger to me due to how many games I've played and how someone taking control was the badguy all along (I dislike those who take charge, it gives others a smaller voice)
So if I am to die, be sure that uct is investigated more, he seems more likely to make this wagon all the more attractive.

In post 314, uctriton00 wrote:
In post 310, theslimer3 wrote:I'm a jailkeeper, a valuable asset to the team,


We have had a
claim
, people.

If there is a REAL jailkeeper among you, please post and say that you're the real jailkeeper, and that slimer is in fact lying about their role. Don't do this by quoting the PM, just say "yes I'm the actual jailkeeper".

Don't think "but I don't want to die!". You're not GOING to die by counterclaiming, you're helping the town. The town will not lynch you during the day. And at night, you can defend yourself by using your jailkeeper power. It is worth it, and you would be a clear candidate for MVP if you provide the counter claim.

And Thor that was an L-2, what are you talking about. There were 2 votes at the time. Was the VC wrong?
Are you role fishing? Because it sure as hell looks like it.

In post 316, Vintermute wrote:Leviathan and Uct I think are town.

Leviathan I still think is just noobish town.

Uct because he is experienced and if he had been scum he would have been WAY more careful to not look like a lurker.

@Slimer:
So you had a power role and decided to go for an almost get lynched and then work your way out of it strategy? okay.....
And we shouldn't kill you cause you claimed? How about you fix/finish that post that was going to actually add something to the game.
I was never going to reveal it. I just did it because I thought I was already dead. It would give you guys a little more time to converse before the mod finished things. (with me in it a little)
I finally got a hold of a pc so I'll give as much insight as I can to your comment before I end things here (I have a lot of games to do this on... Sigh...)
I can't exactly finish what I started because I didn't gather enough information. The people who really go in dept on this game investigates everyone in their own special way through psychology or tricky language.
Unfortunately it appears everyone just started an angry riot against me which gathered no information.

However I do say watch out for Uct and Levian.
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Post Post #336 (isolation #45) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:27 am

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Sorry about the double/triple post
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Post Post #339 (isolation #46) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:54 am

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In post 337, Robert2424 wrote:
In post 294, Thor665 wrote:
In post 293, Robert2424 wrote:Thor- posts alot and is IC. As I've done the same on Ika mafia as he is doing here, I do believe a spacial eye on him as I've rolled mafia being IC. I've also seen IC use it as cover also. His posts also have me going ???. Just his style of posting I guess.

Thor's posts leave me confused about him.
I don'tunderstand what he is saying or what he means.
I'll express slight suspicion about him.
I will not ask him to explain anything in order to see if I can understand what he's doing and to see if that will allow me to get a good read on him.

I am town - the role that is supposed to solve mysteries and learn the unknown!

:neutral:

I feel like I'm in a Shakespeare play every time you post. With your rhyming. I'm unsure if it unintentional, or you use it as a cover itself? I'm not a complete Noob thor. but you seem to think I am.



People shouldn't role claim on day 1. If Slimmer is, its a really bad move. If he is mafia, it doesn't much help ether.

@Slimmer, why Uct and Levian?
Can you read, or are you just trying to make me type more to piss me off?

In post 338, Thor665 wrote:
In post 333, uctriton00 wrote:What do you want?

An explanation of why you are voting and saying things while not reading the thread would be a sexy-sexy start.

In post 334, theslimer3 wrote:Unfortunately it appears everyone just started an angry riot against me which gathered no information.

Actually - you were the one who started that riot.
I at least thought you were playing intentionally badly in order to get those types of reactions. If you didn't understand that was the reaction you'd get...egads!

Why is Uct scummy for "rolefishing" and Thor is not?

In post 337, Robert2424 wrote:I'm not a complete Noob thor. but you seem to think I am.

Feel free to prove me wrong, I would be super happy with that.
Your entire post felt very disconnected from where we're at in the game...why is that? It felt to me like you'd only skimmed - yes/no?
Oh you did it too? I could have swarn you were against it.
But okay then, I see. You are. No one should be giving out their roles. If you want the
real
one to come out and subtilly conform it to you without the others knowing, then so be it, but any other way is scum's easy attack.

There is a doctor role, and I'm hoping he protects me on this night, otherwise, I'll die just like it would be on the voting (I won't last very long either way)

But since I did bring up the doctor as an assurance protection, please tell me, if there really is a JKer, speak now. I assure the doctor will protect you this night if I don't flip what I am. If not, assure that you yourself will be lynched for lying.
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Post Post #341 (isolation #47) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:03 pm

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In post 340, Vintermute wrote:
In post 330, Thor665 wrote:So you're saying that Uct's lurk is the only thing he's done that looked scummy, and obviously scum wouldn't do that but town would?


Yeah pretty much.

In post 334, theslimer3 wrote:

Are you role fishing? Because it sure as hell looks like it.


He is looking for a counter-claim. Something you should only be worried about if you lied.
Alright. If someone does say they are the Jail Keeper, I'll gladly die. Hell, I'll even hammer myself.

Though if it's a normal townie and they are trolling, you're doing a very very anti townie thing
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Post Post #346 (isolation #48) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:12 pm

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Oh, I read that after you posted that. There might not be a Doctor o~o

Well I'm going die no matter what I do. Fuuuuuuuuuuuu
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Post Post #350 (isolation #49) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:51 pm

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In post 348, uctriton00 wrote:This all got really confusing for some reason.

Slimer: "If someone does say they are the Jail Keeper, I'll gladly die. Hell, I'll even hammer myself."

lol what? If you're the jailkeeper, and someone else comes in and says the jailkeeper, aren't they obviously lying then? Why would you hammer yourself in that case? That only happens if you know you're caught as scum.

And Thor, is it because you don't think I could have not seen the Mirhawk vote? I seriously went:
- I want to vote Slimer
- Let me scroll for a vote count. None on this page, let me go back another one.
- I see Slimer at 1 in the latest count.
- I see another vote for Slimer. That should make it L-2.
- I don't see any other votes as my finger is scrolling.
- I vote.

I can take screenshots from my phone if it helps.

The mere fact that you're not catching the logic here is scummy and ignorant.

If someone else claims, they'll believe them, not me. And when that happens, I'm taking it upon myself to kill myself to prove my innocence/take that person.with me for framing me and causing my death.
For the most part, I thought this was easy enough to.understand, but I suppose the scum has to change words around so I can get lynched. Sigh
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Post Post #352 (isolation #50) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:55 pm

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It's called "I am what I said I am, prove me wrong and you're scum"
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Post Post #354 (isolation #51) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:09 pm

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Only one way to find out.
Willing to make that sacrifice?

VOTE: uctriton00
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Post Post #358 (isolation #52) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:50 pm

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You could still get the wrong guy and be left with no info to go on. I'm only giving you insight on how far I'll go to stick to this role.
If you're going to point out the bad in my death, then don't also point it out as useless because my death would
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Post Post #367 (isolation #53) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:58 pm

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In post 360, Vintermute wrote:
In post 358, theslimer3 wrote:You could still get the wrong guy and be left with no info to go on. I'm only giving you insight on how far I'll go to stick to this role.


I would have assumed someone who wasn't lying about their role wouldn't have to think about things like how far they were willing to prove it. On that note slimer did seem rather prepared for a counter-claim.

And I know context and all but
In post 358, theslimer3 wrote:
my death would
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:D
I wasn't prepared at all, it just got out of hand and I honestly forgot my role in this game xD
I do this atleast once every game.

But on your second note, burn in hell you weaving pickabelly parasitic bowel sucker >.>


In post 361, Thor665 wrote:@Uct - yeah, a picture would be awesome.

@Robert - it is super exciting I 'stick out'...and...?

@Slimer - if you are town, you should take a deep breath and re-read what you're posting. It makes little sense.

I would really like a few more people to look town about now.
Right, I was posting quickly from my phone >.>
Sorry bout dat


In post 362, leviathan93 wrote:UNVOTE: Guys. I just want to say WTF!!!??!?!?! a lot has happened since I have last been on...I also don't want to cause the lynch of the jailkeeper...lying or no. I'm sorry real jailkeeper if you are out there. I honestly believe slimer at this time. Yes, he has been playing all mischieviously and not seriously. he even says that he normally "would have gotten serious" but never did. this means either he messed up. or he is lying. I see more messed up in his playing and thought maybe thought we weren't as serious as we were about lynching him. believe me I thought he was scum. but with the power role out. I'm incredibly nervous now.
The hell? You keep talking like I'm a liar, but going on like you don't want to be the reason for being scum.
You're the exact opposite of me. Fuck being suspicious, I want to win.
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Post Post #368 (isolation #54) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:59 pm

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In post 366, leviathan93 wrote:so he means I should go back to lynching slimer? and that NOT lynching slimer is anti-town? and well, I just get the feel that slimer was very stupid in this game if he is to make us believe that he is the jailkeeper. because he said that "as a power role, I thought to be more serious later in the game" or something like that, but things kind of changed quickly and he was never given the opportunity to change his playing style. if this is an innocent mistake then he could be telling the truth. I honestly really value thor's opinion in this game as i really want to believe he is town. if he thinks I should go back to lynching slimer then I will. if he had claimed to be just town i'd still be on the wagon, but with the mention of a power role as I said, i'm really very nervous about it. Thats a HUGE bluff. and a HUGE fall for town if the jail keeper AND another town are killed on the first day and night...maybe i was wrong when I said he could mess up, but thats how I interpreted the situation so i'm being extremely cautious on the matter.

Very stupid? How so?
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Post Post #370 (isolation #55) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:13 pm

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Did you see my predicament? I'm piloting this ship, I can't let it sink, if I do, the goodies for the Towns people won't get to everyone. I was going to die because of MY way of playing. It was a holiday season that I OBVIOUSLY had no way of knowing how much time it would take. If you think im a liar, say that and stick with it. Don't play around it and try to pretend that you really dislike being scum. Being cautious is not being full. And that's why I have a problem with it. You can dance around with pretty words all you want, but you'll never get your full point across without sticking your neck out to get information like I was TRYING to do. It's very very damaging, but highly.informative when I can control it.

So I'd prefer you stop rewording things and be straight up, because your full point is shatters and structurally contradicting
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Post Post #374 (isolation #56) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:37 pm

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No, stop twisting my words. I want to say what I want without fear of being lynched.
There's a huge difference between being cautious and bold. If you really are townie, be bold and not a little bitch, acting frail and being afraid of everyone thinking "omg he said that?!? He must be scum!"

I say what I want because it's how I feel/I'm in the mood to test your reactions.
When a player plays like "I shouldn't say or do that, that would be scummy" you're setting yourself up for one hell if a ride. You're not taking chances and you're not attacking with all your might. You're letting scum go, and whispering your true intentions.

Twist my words again and see what happens, BOY.
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Post Post #376 (isolation #57) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:07 pm

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I'm sorry that you haven't finished any real games, I take credit for that as my fault xD

However it's not exactly an ability to scum seek persay, just optimizing use of awareness. The scum tries to fit in, but it isn't experience that helps us find that out (different players do totally different things)
we use what we think, and 70% of the time we're wrong. But at least we are able to focus on what's right or wrong with situation.

Whether it be a town read on a really sloppy goon, and a scum read on a really well tracing townie, we atleast showed that we can find something wrong.
That is Mafia. The glorious gam e where you can keep trying till you get it right, building observation and logic skills Image
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Post Post #379 (isolation #58) » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:43 am

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Nope, just dropped my guard :3
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Post Post #386 (isolation #59) » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:14 pm

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Hmm. should I block you tonight, or is that going to backfire too much in your plots of killing me?
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Post Post #388 (isolation #60) » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:35 pm

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Kfien, for today only
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Post Post #421 (isolation #61) » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:52 pm

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I was saving this bit of information for my wiki development, but my townie abilities are to cause disruption. Since I haven't played as scum yet (which would probably be dangerous since I'll be 'helping' town xD) it is to make everyone move around more.I stir up, the easier it is to watch players. In a boring setting, scum loves to be as casual as.possible ingame, where as versus a player who changes everything, they'll want to adapt so they don't look suspicious. I'm not exactly anti townie though, though this move only benefits me. I can't exactly say "Hey, Vintermute I'm about to change things.up a bit by saying over and over again that I'm not Mafia, then when someone catches it, I'll OMGUS the hell out of it"

It's the classic noobscum move, but then at the blink of a sentence, I'll completely change my attacking person, way of talking, then drop completely and apply psychological logic to.everyone who changed their votes to me or find me suspicious. A lot should be legit, but things like "I just don't like the way he did that" will be how I determine how they are due to isos.

I usually end up having to do a lot to get myself cleared, but I believe it.to be Rather informative if used correctly
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Post Post #426 (isolation #62) » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:59 pm

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If I was VT, I'd die leaving my info about how I feel about everyone. It should be of use
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Post Post #428 (isolation #63) » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:48 pm

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I still say uct is maf.
If I die tonight, then maybe not
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Post Post #430 (isolation #64) » Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:27 pm

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That I'm very lazy and going to most likely going to die tonight or tomorrow
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Post Post #434 (isolation #65) » Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:06 am

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In post 432, Vintermute wrote:
In post 423, zabriel wrote:Vint's been looking scummy, plus with the vote left on the claimed JK, it doesn't look good.


My vote is no longer on slimer and wasn't when you posted.

@slimer
Has your strategy ever actually worked?

And, if you aren't nightkilled or lynched tomorrow how do you plan on proceeding?

I've never won a game. That tell you anything?
Not "I haven't been endgamed" it's "as a townie, I have died and my townie group has not won"
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Post Post #438 (isolation #66) » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:18 am

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In post 437, Vintermute wrote:
In post 434, theslimer3 wrote:

I've never won a game. That tell you anything?
Not "I haven't been endgamed" it's "as a townie, I have died and my townie group has not won"


That sort of answers my first question. What I wanted to know was if your strategy ever lead directly to a sum lynch.

It doesn't answer my second question. The reason for my second question is that I'm afraid if you live and are town you will enact master plan phase 2 and do something else ridiculous.

In post 435, Mirhawk wrote:
I guess what it boils down to is that I'm worried that if you're scum we'll never catch you at it. So I leave you in the null category.


Hmmm I believe I tried to tell you that before..... and you tried to lynch me for it.

Sorta, most times im right and everyone doesn't beleieve me xD

But I only do this once pet game, don't worry :3

And besides I'll probably die tonight anyway for revealing my role
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Post Post #452 (isolation #67) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:06 am

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I'm voting you because your logic seems to only be to take out anti-townies instead of scum. Image
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Post Post #482 (isolation #68) » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:15 pm

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In post 481, Thor665 wrote:
In post 473, Mirhawk wrote:No, if we're lynching someone useless today then I want Zabriel. He's the worst of the three, Roberts in the middle, and Uctrion's the best.

Except some people actually think Uct is scummy.

I second this
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Post Post #517 (isolation #69) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:05 am

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In post 497, leviathan93 wrote:I would like to mention that judging from a previous game that ended, was that under pressure as mafia slimer cleanly slid through my sights and held himself to look like town. This has made me extremely more aware of him in this game. and extremely more suspicious of his claim as jailkeeper. This was because the pressure was really put on him that he claimed. the judgement on this goes back to whether or not what he said was real. no counterclaim has come up yet. this could either mean that he is telling the truth and the mafia cannot risk trying to counterclaim, the fact that scum also cannot lynch him openly, because it may look bad on them. or he is lying and the real jailkeeper just doesn't want to be realized yet (i personally find that hard to believe though and that it wouldn't help town in the long run). thoughts anyone?

Oh, that was Pan, I lurked the hell out of that game with like 2-3 posts because I didn't think I would be good at scum xD
I'm preeeeetty sure if I talked more, you guys would be on to us, so I did pan a favor and didn't talk at all


@edo: Are you telling me that since I called him out for role fishing, that means we both know that I'm lying about my claim?

You should really consider looking at things from another person's perspective before jumping on their case and pretending that your logic is absolute.
From any side, you can clearly see that I've been acting as though I'm a derp mafia and I'm trying to wiggle my way out. But from the mafia's perspective, they see it as opportunity. They know I can do no harm and would probably wait to see if there really is some other JK and if I'm lying just so I can stay in the game.
It's not hard to see that at this point I'm incredibly useless, the mafia isn't afraid of me at all. If I'm JK, they'd either kill me, or know I'm going to make the wrong choice. If I'm not, which I suspect that they don't think I am, then they'll probably be trying to get the real JK for their kill tonight and simply lynch me tomorrow.

And before you say that I'm calling myself noob scum or a useless townie, keep reading, sonnie. There's a lot that I hide under this mask.
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Post Post #519 (isolation #70) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:38 am

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Yeeaaah I guess one thing to look for if I'm scum is me talking less xD
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Post Post #521 (isolation #71) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:48 am

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In post 520, uctriton00 wrote:
In post 517, theslimer3 wrote:But from the mafia's perspective, they see it as opportunity. They know I can do no harm and would probably wait to see if there really is some other JK and if I'm lying just so I can stay in the game.


Because anytime someone questions you, you accuse them of misconstruing your words, I'll just ask this politely:

Is it possible and beneficial for any vanilla townie in Mafia to lie about their vanilla townie status and claim they are a PR, in order to not be lynched?

Yes it's possible.
I can tell you all that I'm a cat who sneaks on it's owner's laptop so he can play this game.
Words are words. There's no way to prove them without action or sight.
Right now there are 2 people lying about their roles right now, and you're not on their case. Why? Because you can't prove it, you don't trust anyone else, or you yourself is the one who is lying.

I have lied about my role in another game. But that was a unique lie. One that was a message to the person who claimed that role.
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Post Post #525 (isolation #72) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:31 am

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In post 522, Edosurist wrote:@Whoever wanted our top 2 reads
Uct – Scum
*Did nothing in the beginning (attributed to being busy IRL)
*Added bits of information and explanation of scenarios for the whole middle section. Almost nothing in the way of scumhunting
*L-1/L-2 issues. Scum like town to accidentally hammer someone.
*His best post since then has been post . Here, he explains his reason to vote leviathan. What this post did is that the other posts just before that seemed brief, and really applied no pressure. In 451, you question his intentions directly. Even then, he should still do more.
Lev – Noobtown or Scum
*Cautious
*Tried to get a claim from Vintermute when he thought he was town, which benefits the town in no way
*Wishy-washy, likely because he follows everybody’s reasoning and does what everyone wants.




@slimer, post

You should really consider looking at things from another person's perspective before jumping on their case and pretending that your logic is absolute.
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WTF? You're still doing the weird "I'm JK, but somebody should cc me!" thing.
If I'm JK, they'd either kill me, or know I'm going to make the wrong choice. If I'm not, which I suspect that they don't think I am, then they'll probably be trying to get the real JK for their kill tonight and simply lynch me tomorrow.

How does this make any sense? Scum believes that slimer is just a VT, being a complete idiot, claiming JK, therefore, they are role-fishing for the real JK to claim. Why would they not think you're the JK? Are you suggesting that you actually AREN'T the JK?

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Can you please kill slimer tonight because of that last post? Intentionally lying as a VT helps town in nooooooo way. If worst comes to worst, he's my pick for a backup lynch.

You're really starting to become a bother to me.

You seem to be getting agitated over this whole thing, making it a much bigger deal than it should be.
What else do you want me to do? Simply say "Kay guys, I'm the JK, don't lynch me pls" and let that float till I die?
One thing about you is that you keep saying what I say doesn't make any sense, yet you pull words against me as though it was perfectly planned out. That's fallacy my friend, stick with one point for your argument.
I'm suggesting that I AM the JK and if anyone has ANYTHING to say against that is scum.
Those who think that I am lying (roughly 50-75% of you) are saying you should lynch me tomorrow. You really think I'll just take that and go "Yay! I get to live one more day!"

It's not a fake claim, and it's not me trying to overcontradict myself. It's me trying to solidly seal tight my claim, and if ANYTHING crosses my way in this, that isn't a lie- rather my own words, then you may kill me. But for now, I'm simply trying to dig myself out of this 40 foot hole I dug myself into.

Another thing I find interesting is that you seem to not think of me as scum at all, but seem to be pointing towards me being a scummy player. Are you trying to say that you know for a fact that I am not scum and simply trying to put me out of the game? Because a small portion of that leads me to believe that you yourself are scum.

@Vint: Because he is one of the few who are more focused on my claim being a lie than it is a claim. May I ask why you request my reasoning?

@Mir: Why would you be angry, exactly?
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Post Post #569 (isolation #73) » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:00 am

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In post 564, Edosurist wrote:...
That post was very unfulfilling. I was expecting you to actually do something about your impending lynch.

Welcome, penguin. Now there actually IS a girl in this game. <looks at slimer>

*cough cough* :roll:
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Post Post #596 (isolation #74) » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:10 pm

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My eyes still fall to Uct.
You're safe from my hammer for now, Vint, I don't particularly find you scummier than him.
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Post Post #630 (isolation #75) » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:36 pm

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If we lynch Vinter and he flips town, then what?
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Post Post #632 (isolation #76) » Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:36 pm

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How exactly does his innocence cross out my own?
POE this early?
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Post Post #639 (isolation #77) » Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:07 pm

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FIIIIIIIINE
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Post Post #644 (isolation #78) » Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:51 pm

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In post 641, uctriton00 wrote:
In post 639, theslimer3 wrote:FIIIIIIIINE


This is going to be a comedy movie with two people who absolutely despise each other are forced to work together.

I don't hate you D:

YOLO

Hammer vote
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Post Post #646 (isolation #79) » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:00 pm

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Nope. I'm voting for the reason I saw Thor voted. This day has gone on long enough and you're already looking scummy to everyone. I'll let you rage at me in the dead qt on day 3 :3
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Post Post #650 (isolation #80) » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:14 pm

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That wasn't an official lynch btw
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Post Post #651 (isolation #81) » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:15 pm

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Though me tricking you into giving your final reads proves your innocence. Yay
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Post Post #655 (isolation #82) » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:22 pm

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<3333333


@mir: 5 bucks says if everyone disbands their vote, you will too
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Post Post #661 (isolation #83) » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:33 pm

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Forget proving stuff, I've finally got a hold of that feeling. Like scumthing just clicked. I don't know why, but between everyone who has posted in the last 2 days, I have found a someone to be genuinely scum. More than a feeling that I can't prove, it's leaning towards fact for me the more they post. I actually can't wait for them to say scumthing again.. It's amazing!
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Post Post #665 (isolation #84) » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:46 pm

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Jk jk jk jk jk!
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Post Post #667 (isolation #85) » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:51 pm

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Nah, I don't think he's scum. I sorta said so on 596
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Post Post #672 (isolation #86) » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:24 pm

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A fake hammer in a noob game from someone who's been messing around in this game from the very beginning. Is this really what you argue against?
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Post Post #682 (isolation #87) » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:36 am

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Say, Edo, if you were the mafia, who would your partner be?
Hypothetical question.
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Post Post #714 (isolation #88) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:51 pm

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Well then.. I'm either right, or they intentionally didn't kill someone so that I could get the wrong lynch and lead to my death as well.

But very interesting.
Either my WiFOM worked, or they're toying with me
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Post Post #719 (isolation #89) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:04 pm

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Edo, remember before when I asked you if you were scum, who would your partner be?
I'm going to have to reveal that I blocked Mirhawk and that you know I blocked him. The only way that would be possible is if in fact you ARE scum.

But let us lynch Mir. Lets see what he flips.
VOTE: Mirhawk

I suppose I could trust that the mafia did not toy with me
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Post Post #721 (isolation #90) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:07 pm

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You hammered him, so I suspected you would suspect I would roleblock you. However, reversing the case, I went after mir. You two were the people I suspected, and that is why I made absolutly no indecation that I thought you were scum.

It's probably also why you hammered, so you could kill Uct and I would block you instead of Mir. And by now, you would lynch Mirhawk to make it look like a big setup if I ask for your lynch later or something
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Post Post #722 (isolation #91) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:09 pm

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In post 721, theslimer3 wrote:You hammered him, so I suspected you would suspect I would roleblock you. However, reversing the case, I went after mir. You two were the people I suspected, and that is why I made absolutly no indecation that I thought
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It's probably also why you hammered, so you could kill Uct and I would block you instead of Mir. And by now, you would lynch Mirhawk to make it look like a big setup if I ask for your lynch later or something

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Post Post #724 (isolation #92) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:13 pm

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It doesn't incriminate him. But you're getting lynched today. I wont be satisfied until you do. And I am going to continue roleblocking edo until he is also lynched.
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Post Post #725 (isolation #93) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:15 pm

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Levian, I will ask for your assistance on this.
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Post Post #730 (isolation #94) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:24 pm

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In post 723, Mirhawk wrote:I would guess there was at least one scum on each wagon.

Including this one
Slimer, Edo, Thor, Mirhawk, Vintermute

With regards to the wagons I'm thinking Thor and Zabriel.

@Slimer
You're not a roleblocker
,I could have also been a kill target, and Uct claimed doc. Also not seeing how my guilt would incriminate Edo.

Oh heavens no. He never even hinted that I wasn't a roleblocker. Where did you get that idea from, Lev?


@edo: I'm not exactly 100% calling you scum, but it's merely gut at this point. The person right now that I confirm is scum is Mir.
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Post Post #732 (isolation #95) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:30 pm

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Exactly. It's all about word play in mafia. Image
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Post Post #734 (isolation #96) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:35 pm

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In post 661, theslimer3 wrote:Forget proving stuff, I've finally got a hold of that feeling. Like scumthing just clicked. I don't know why, but between everyone who has posted in the last 2 days, I have found a someone to be genuinely scum. More than a feeling that I can't prove, it's leaning towards fact for me the more they post. I actually can't wait for them to say scumthing again.. It's amazing!

All you, babe <3
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Post Post #737 (isolation #97) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:41 pm

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I've been pushing that idea too far away. Clarify why on earth maf would target Mir, and why uct would possibly protect him when he was given strict orders to protect me? The only way the mafia targeted him was if uct was mafia and I blocked him, which was not at all the case, I've claimed my reasoning.

If you want to twist logic around my words, atleast make more sense


@Levi: I think the point of being able to role block is to stop scum from killing, thus, no you can't change hosts of who will kill. The roleblocker stops them and there is no kill.
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Post Post #740 (isolation #98) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:47 pm

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It's like this


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Scum 2: Go for it bro.
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Scenario 1:
RB: I don't think Scum 1 is mafia. I will target Scum 2.
(Kill action did not stop)

Scenario 2:
RB: I think Scum 1 is mafia. I will target him.
(Scum 1 has not completed night task. He will not be told, but his kill has not happened)
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Post Post #742 (isolation #99) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:57 pm

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I recede my logic, thoughts, beliefs, religions, and blood in my bones.
But I do not receed my vote. There is no reason to kill you. That would be a bad kill. So I'd say you're the mafia regardless
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Post Post #747 (isolation #100) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:06 pm

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In post 745, leviathan93 wrote:I would say that it makes me a noob for not knowing EVERY in and out of this game yet. =P

I'm about as new as levi, 2 weeks difference pretty much (Well, plus a 1 month exp on another site, but that was 1 game... Then the countless party games)

I play the fool then observe. That's how I get away with stuff.

Also, Edo, All I'm saying is that I roleblocked/doctored him and no one has died. I can't think of any reason why Mirhawk would be a good kill over thor, so I'm sticking to it. Don't question me because I am keeping this as my vote. I advise you all to join in
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Post Post #765 (isolation #101) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:50 am

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We're either lynching me or Mir today. No exceptions, no loops. One of us will flip scum. Just pick a side and vote already
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Post Post #767 (isolation #102) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:26 pm

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I've lost my trust the moment you flip and vice versa. No matter what it's you or me.
If I blocked you I'm obliged to think you are scum at this point. It's all.I can do after announcing it.
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Post Post #770 (isolation #103) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:37 pm

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If thor is behind this (as scum)
Townies have lost this game. This will cause a major disruption
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Post Post #783 (isolation #104) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:44 pm

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@Thor tbh because I blocked him and had high hopes of him being Mafia.

And why do you think Uct is Mafia under this scenario? There's less evidence covering from what happened
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Post Post #787 (isolation #105) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:49 am

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Agreed with above
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Post Post #790 (isolation #106) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:08 pm

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Mafia member stuttering. Oh snap
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Post Post #792 (isolation #107) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:22 pm

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^ me or uct?
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Post Post #795 (isolation #108) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:27 pm

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Does anyone here support the idea of "One of you are lying, and one of you are not."?
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Post Post #798 (isolation #109) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:47 pm

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Dumb scum in a noobie game? I wouldn't put it past them.

Sigh... Idk what to think anymore. Can we just nolynch and try this again?
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Post Post #812 (isolation #110) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:32 pm

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Odd
Did you just unvote Mir just so you can vote Levy for something less scummy?
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Post Post #813 (isolation #111) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:33 pm

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Well not exactly unvote, but give up interest
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Post Post #816 (isolation #112) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:38 pm

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Than your 1/4 chance of being scum. Gaining any more than 10% possibility is much better than a theory
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Post Post #819 (isolation #113) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:15 pm

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I think you should stfu and die for our knowledge buddy


@Thor, why the reminder?
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Post Post #822 (isolation #114) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:23 pm

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I'd rather wait till the next day

@edo why zab?
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Post Post #829 (isolation #115) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:07 pm

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How does not saying who I'll jail make me seem town? o.O
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Post Post #831 (isolation #116) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:16 pm

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Why do I have the strange feeling that I'm be tonights sacrifice < ]
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Post Post #833 (isolation #117) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:25 pm

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We all know he won't >.>
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Post Post #842 (isolation #118) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:42 pm

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Psst, Uct. Heads up: I'm running the show today. You trying to throw me under is not making you look any better here.
If you really want to risk my flip on yourself and risk a double role kill, go for it, but let the idiots follow, not the determined
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Post Post #844 (isolation #119) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:45 pm

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I refuse to stop being this way because when I stop I'll be modkilled for not having anything to say v.v
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Post Post #856 (isolation #120) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:41 am

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My fake claim (if not caught) will be one that requires brilliance and lots of foreplanning. As Mafia, I'd have to plot out every possibility before being an idiot and saying something such as "I jailed Thor" and end up having a doc get "Action failed"

This could happen very often because I'd have to use reason like "who should I jail and it would make sense"

If I keep saying random people (I did mirhawk because I felt a genuine scumread and saying it aloud would kill my purpose because scum would use WiFOM and not use him for the kill) then someone will catch on, BUT if I 'jailed' the doc's townread I would be caught, thus ending my hiding.

So I could be pretty easily caught, especially with the possibility of the doctor around. No doubt scum has read that I am the real JK and will plot to kill me regardless of the doctor because he could be stubborn again, that's why I strongly urge him to protect me tonight
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Post Post #858 (isolation #121) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:55 am

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Yes, he's the real jailkeeper :neutral:
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Post Post #866 (isolation #122) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:50 pm

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In post 864, leviathan93 wrote:goodbye fellow townie...i'll miss you...

Do not worry Levi. If he's town, i'll be scum.
and I'll be sure to kill you tonight
so I won't have to die alone
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Post Post #872 (isolation #123) » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:04 am

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Well well. Either our last guy is trying to get me to mislynch someone or they targeted me. Nice try, but I knew something like this would happen and I didn't target anyone.
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Post Post #875 (isolation #124) » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:20 am

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Because I had
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Isn't that right, Thor?
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Post Post #878 (isolation #125) » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:37 am

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Okay that didn't work, we're not secretly thinking the same thing...
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Post Post #881 (isolation #126) » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:54 am

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So far you're the only person here who I can trust, but at the same time, I was counting on your words hinting on what I should have done today. I thought you had clearly stated this, as it would only work once.
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Post Post #883 (isolation #127) » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:09 am

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I jailed someone /).-
And since my strategies revolving around you failed, I'll say it (ruining my chance to do it again) I did it to someone I thought you wanted me to protect
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Post Post #885 (isolation #128) » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:35 am

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But he might be valuable, that's why I protected him
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Post Post #887 (isolation #129) » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:42 am

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Well he's alive isn't he? What would be the point of letting him die if I was "assured to be protected"?
He would have died without a doubt if I hadn't. I thought that's why you kept telling him to protect me, because when they target him, he'd be safe
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Post Post #890 (isolation #130) » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:49 am

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Your plan is almost like saying "Let's lynch the claimed doctor. There's a chance that he'll flip scum"
Confirming a townie and killing a PR doesn't sound too town aligned to me
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Post Post #893 (isolation #131) » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:28 am

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You do have a point I guesa e.e

But he's alive. Everyone is
Andholdonasecond why did the rolecop scum make the previous kill?
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Post Post #915 (isolation #132) » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:53 pm

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Blah blah bbs, someone pm me if it's night and we need to lynch, I'm feeling sick
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Post Post #945 (isolation #133) » Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:17 am

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I'm that guy who doesn't say "I'll catch up and post when I get a chance" when I hat a prod/preprod, I say that I was lurking the whole time and that I'll post when someone gives me a reason to.

P.s. This is I.C. Logic so don't question me
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Post Post #949 (isolation #134) » Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:59 am

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Levi has been.acting out of character lately but zab still looks town to me, sooooo

My vote goes on Levi, so before it becomes a physical action, I'd suggest that he tells me why Zab is a better choice
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Post Post #952 (isolation #135) » Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:26 pm

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One does not know the outer appearance of his actions to others. Only the knowledge of his actions in his own eyes.

If you know you're not acting normal, then it is something you can control. (or an outside factor that you are aware of that you cannot change)
You don't know, thus you can't control it. I'm not calling it scummy though. Just letting you know.


So tell me Levi, if I lynched you for this reason would you hold this against me?
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Post Post #953 (isolation #136) » Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:29 pm

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By the way I'll automatically Jail whoever hammers either, so scum be advised
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Post Post #958 (isolation #137) » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:07 pm

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If we lynch him and he flips scum will you take that blow to your town cred?
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Post Post #959 (isolation #138) » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:08 pm

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Town*

Sorry, I'm posting and reading while talking
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Post Post #965 (isolation #139) » Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:34 pm

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What do you say, Thor? Hammer Levy?
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Post Post #969 (isolation #140) » Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:07 pm

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Alright I'll do it. Post your reads first
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Post Post #970 (isolation #141) » Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:08 pm

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Don't want the mod rudely cutting this moment off
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Post Post #972 (isolation #142) » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:43 pm

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Well, that was... Unique.
Even though you failed my test, I'll chose to not hammer you after all.
Listening to what you said, it sounded a bit too much
Like a farewell, but this is your first game on MS, isn't it?

Nice to know such a thing. This game will probably be the base of your meta.
Openly, it's extremely scummy to be anti-town, but allow me to become the scum once more this game.
Listen to my words people of the town, I have a proposal.
You can turn me down, or you can try to see my point here.
Notably, a large amount of you think I am lying about my role. You may kill me in 3 days is my proposal.
Can we all lynch Edo? It's all I request.
Here me out. I promise to allow myself to go out in or before 3 days. Even the day after.
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Post Post #974 (isolation #143) » Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:14 pm

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Take this hint: everything I'll ever say is a psychological test to see how you'll react

I don't really believe in "What you say indicates that you are scum."
I believe in "While I'm here, I might as well fuck with you"
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Post Post #976 (isolation #144) » Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:53 pm

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I fuck with you all. How can you call someone anti-town when you yourself don't trust everyone else.
There's no such thing as playing for your team because you have no team. You're on your own trying to catch someone. That's how I look at it
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Post Post #979 (isolation #145) » Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:45 am

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Bby pls
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Post Post #998 (isolation #146) » Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:22 pm

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My claimed power role makes me too town to be lynched? Then allow me to even that balance since "it's unfair that I have such a unfair advantage"

VOTE: Penguin
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Post Post #1005 (isolation #147) » Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:02 pm

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I saved your life twice Uct xD
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Post Post #1006 (isolation #148) » Wed Dec 26, 2012 6:10 pm

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So my plan slightly worked. No one saw my message saying "No lynch"

It was suppose to throw off the last remaining scum, if he saw it.
I knew they were both town, so I didn't want them killed, so I attempted to atleast try to get someone else and not them. Zab did very well in turning the tables in this game, and my protecting Uct also helped us keep him for one more day. Who knows how this game would have went if he wasn't altering it slightly?
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #149) » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:22 pm

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Just randomly decided to read the QT
Great read! It proves they've fallen into each of my traps.

I seriously didn't think the fact that I always gender neutral everything that applies to a large amount of people would get to that xD

And another thing was I knew they would attack uct. So I've just confirmed that me saving him has drastically altered the game on that day. I managed to stop the lynch on Levi and Zab and someone else did the rest for me. God I love this game ;3
(Levi, Zab, Thor, and Uct were my town reads. That left Edo (I was actually kinda hoping I'd get him out) and Penguin.

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Post Post #1022 (isolation #150) » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:35 pm

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So this is the only town game I won? Kick ass!:D
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Post Post #1024 (isolation #151) » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:01 pm

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Something like a shot in the dark for PoE xD

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