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Post Post #3425 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:43 am

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In post 3418, MagnaofIllusion wrote:So why instead of ignoring it before did you not just do that in the first place? Frankly I'm fucking sick to death of Acosmist's stupidity this game and you getting in on the act also when I have actual scum suspects doing the same (Nero NEVER addressing his "MoI knew I had three shots" lie for example) thing makes my blood boil.


Ah, the fact that he called you stupid or did you actually meant something game relevant?
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Post Post #3426 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:59 am

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Deadline is in approximately 14 hours. Let’s get a move on people …

Oh look, suddenly Zab isn’t scum and Mykonian is happy to wagon with him. Lulz

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– so what say you about Mykonian wagonnind today with BOTH players he has either voted or called scum (myself and Zab)?

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Just take this post for example. That's a huge ass posts which does just one thing: ask perv for a roleclaim. Oh, and barking some more at people.


See this is pure fluff. You are taking pot shots when frankly I’ve been more effective this game in getting my scum-reads lynched than you have (Tammy, Elos since I replaced in). And while Els was just a terrible, terrible Town that doesn’t take away from the fact I’m more effective and useful than you.

Of course you are scum hiding behind Mastin’s derp-Town read on you so you don’t need to be effective but that’s secondary to the issue of your scummy posting above. It is nice to have loud but terrible misguided players defending you for terrible reasons isn't it?

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Why is it so hard to lynch this cheecky active lurking scum-fuck?
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Post Post #3427 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:20 am

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Post Post #3428 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:23 am

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MoI - where do you go if zabriel flips scum?
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Post Post #3429 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:24 am

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I go on to lynch the rest of his team if they are stupid enough to leave me alive. Duh.

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Post Post #3430 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:25 am

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So they'll kill you, but somehow your reads will appear for us when zab flips scum?
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Post Post #3431 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:27 am

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Where did I say that? No-one listens to me after I get Nightkilled anyway but anyone with a reading comprehension level above my daughter's can clearly read my posts and see who I think is scum.

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Post Post #3432 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:27 am

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In post 3428, Acosmist wrote:MoI - where do you go if zabriel flips scum?


So why not answer that? If it's so obvious. Just answer it again. I'm stupid, remember?
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Post Post #3433 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:37 am

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Anyone here going to say this is town MoI posting?
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Post Post #3434 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:38 am

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Because frankly I don't feel like humoring you since you likewise aren't telling me who is scum ... funny how that works.

Why aren't you reading the thread?
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Post Post #3435 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:38 am

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I'm not reading the thread?
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Post Post #3436 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:39 am

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In post 3428, Acosmist wrote:MoI - where do you go if zabriel flips scum?


Hey look at this, BEFORE your post asking me who's scum!

Your attitude has been off all game. Do you want to explain that or can we get a wagon on you now?
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Post Post #3437 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:42 am

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If my reaction not answering a simple question is off yours is also off for not likewise answering a simple question. DERP

You aren't reading the thread as I've multiple times today stated who I think is scum. I asked you who is scum since you haven't committed to anything concrete on that end since I joined the game.
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Post Post #3438 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:43 am

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UNVOTE: , VOTE: MagnaofIllusion

ok then. I even asked you to convince me you weren't scum, and you didn't.
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Post Post #3439 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:46 am

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Lulz.
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Post Post #3440 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:55 am

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In post 3433, Acosmist wrote:Anyone here going to say this is town MoI posting?

Yes.
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Post Post #3441 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:49 am

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In post 3410, MagnaofIllusion wrote:@Mastin – Post 3387 is stupid. It’s not VCA it is what you expressly called bad VCA analysis in your rather long work in progress.. You aren’t looking at motivation and context just arbitrarily assuming scum are in a specific place when you acknowledge that you have experienced mislynch wagons that were all Town.
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So it's perfectly within my guide. I'm not arbitrarily declaring some number on, some number off. I am, however, analyzing who is most likely to be scum of those on.

And, yeah, of course I'm not following lots of my own advice; the guide is as much meant for me as it is for the rest of the community. Do you know how tempting it's been for me to add a "Do as I say, not as I do." disclaimer to it? :P
Ultimately, I decided not to, since it's unnecessary, it brings into question my credibility, and since I intend for the guide to be used after my potential retirement, then people wouldn't be able to even know that I wasn't following it. :P

'Sides, the guide is exactly that: a guideline, more than a hard-fast rule.
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Post Post #3442 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:54 am

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In post 3426, MagnaofIllusion wrote:@Mastin – so what say you about Mykonian wagonnind today with BOTH players he has either voted or called scum (myself and Zab)?
In absolutely no way scummy; at WORST null.

Look at me, I'm negotiating with
terrorists
former top-scumreads and joining them on lynch candidates.
And look at you; you're on a wagon with two of your main suspects. (Or were; dunno where you/they went since then.)

I'd be more concerned if he WASN'T willing to vote with 'em.
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Post Post #3443 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:57 am

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In post 3412, pappums rat wrote:zabriel - 4 (MagnaofIllusion,
jasonT1981, mykonian
, Cheery Dog)
(This is what I'm talking about, MoI. Last I checked, you had both jason and myk as scum with zab. You're concerned about myk being willing to go on a wagon with people he suspects, but it's a two-way street. :P)
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Post Post #3444 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:58 am

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In post 3443, mastin2 wrote:(This is what I'm talking about, MoI. Last I checked, you had both jason and myk as scum with zab. You're concerned about myk being willing to go on a wagon with people he suspects, but it's a two-way street. )


No I'm more concerned with you making light it in regards to me earlier and wanting to see if your reaction to Myk doing the exact same thing made sense.
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Post Post #3445 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:04 am

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In post 3426, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Deadline is in approximately 14 hours. Let’s get a move on people …

Oh look, suddenly Zab isn’t scum and Mykonian is happy to wagon with him. Lulz

@Mastin
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You'd almost think I've been accusing you of being a lot of bark and very little bite all game as well

Just take this post for example. That's a huge ass posts which does just one thing: ask perv for a roleclaim. Oh, and barking some more at people.


See this is pure fluff. You are taking pot shots when frankly I’ve been more effective this game in getting my scum-reads lynched than you have (Tammy, Elos since I replaced in). And while Els was just a terrible, terrible Town that doesn’t take away from the fact I’m more effective and useful than you.


Gosh, I wished someone had seen els was town... wait, I did!

And acosmist gets it. Brilliant.

And really. You got Tammy lynched. I never knew. I thought it was a cop claim and tammy telling us she was a SK. I might be wrong there.
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Post Post #3446 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:12 am

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AngryPidgeon - 3 (Kublai Khan, Nero Cain, PeregrineV)
zabriel - 3 (MagnaofIllusion, jasonT1981, Cheery Dog)
PeregrineV - 1 (Kise)
Yates - 4 (mastin2, AngryPidgeon, zabriel, mykonian)
mykonian - 1 (pidgey)
jasonT1981 - 1 (Yates)
MagnaofIllusion - 1 (Acosmist)

We're dangerously close to a no-lynch right now.

AP, zabriel, and Yates are the only wagons we have which can go through.
I'd strongly prefer not-AP, so again, it's either zabriel or Yates getting lynched today.
Everyone off both those wagons needs to choose a side.
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Post Post #3447 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:18 am

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They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.

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Post Post #3448 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:56 am

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So, a rundown of my reads.

3. zabriel
^
Lynch candidate number one.
It's either him or Yates.

4. Shahrizai mykonian
^
Town.


5. Kise
^Town side of null. I am re-evaluating his posts, but he's definitely not someone I want to lynch any time soon, if for no other reason than because he's not antagonizing anyone and has shown an evolution of reads which seems natural, with him willing to show reason and compromise with people. Could he be scum? Most definitely, he could be.
Is
he scum? At the moment, I'm saying no.

8. PeregrineV
^Cryptic Cheery Dog result. Presumably, when Cheery Dog dies we'll know what his results mean, and until then, PV gets a pass.

9. Amrun pidgey
^Been on the townside of null for much of the game. Amrun's posts were natural to me. Furthermore, pidgey's posts have largely been stream-of-consciousness-styled. If he's scum, he's managed to disguise it well. While I think he's pretty much wrong on everything, his posts just come across as being town. So
weak town
is my overall assessment.

10. Acosmist
^Claim about to be tested by the messenger. If the messenger refuses, I'm lynching their ass tomorrow, period end of discussion. Claim may be double-tested by Cheery Dog, though that's his choice. At this time, I believe his claim, for what it's worth.

11. Zoroaster MagnaofIllusion
^I currently am in line with AP's reasoning. MoI's frustration this game seems entirely genuine. And not in a "scum not getting their way" kind of genuine; it legitimately looks like frustrated town. Like Kise, I'm re-evaluating him, and like Kise, he's on the townside of null.

12. Yates
^
Lynch candidate number two.
If zab's not lynched, Yates will be.

14. I Am Innocent AngryPidgeon
^Mid-tier town. I liked IaI's posts, and AP's been dropping towntell after towntell after towntell. Though it's certainly possible he's scum tailoring his play to my expectations, I sincerely doubt that; his play seems like his normal ever-changing self, really.

16. jasonT1981
^Worth a look at in future days, he's utterly and totally null for me right now. Those on both the town-jason and scum-jason sides of the debate, I request that overnight, you prepare your case for your stance, so that when day five dawns, you can present it and I can weigh both sides of the argument while double-checking the facts presented.

17. snifit Cheery Dog
^Pretty close to confirmed town for his claim.

19. Kublai Khan
^Has been getting a pass from me most of the game. It's about time I got paranoid about that. I've had him as strong town, but the trend I saw in the VCA is something I want to investigate some more. Since the game will be in night over the weekend, that means I won't really get a chance to reread all 138 pages ('specially given my V/LA), but I really think that I should do so soon, in light of the flips we've got so far. I've been relying a lot on isos, and I think I stand a LOT to gain by looking at things in their entire context once more.

21. Nero Cain
^Not only do I know his claim to be accurate, not only do I think his play has been town, but we've also got a Cheery Dog cryptic result on him, soyeah; I'm treating him like a mason for me right now.
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Post Post #3449 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:01 am

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tl;dr version:

LYNCH CANDIDATES:
Yates
zabriel

INVESTIGATING (as close as I've got to scumreads):
Kublai Khan
jasonT1981

RE-EVALUATING:
MagnaofIllusion
Kise

TIME WILL TELL (literally!):
Acosmist
PeregrineV

TOWNLEANS:
AngryPidgeon
pidgey

TOWN:
Cheery Dog
Nero Cain
mykonian

Strongest at top for all.
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