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would it make more sense to lynch Acosmist relatively soon (before lets say... day 3), than leave him alive being unconfirmed?

serious discussion time folks.

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I think I'd rather do a MOD meta of Pappums... I'm not sure I'm sold on the idea of a PGO. AND SOLID SNAKE????? Dudes the muthafuckin l33t assassin.... PGO??? PGO??? You're looking at a JoaT, strongarm vig... Something like that, but PGO....... doubting it tbh.

you're right. if you've played any MGS games, you'd know snake keeps his cool and isn't a bitch.

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Why are you role fishing?

flavor fishing. Glad someone else found it to be a scummy post.

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This is my first large theme game, but I have to agree that speculating on PRs and alignment this early is dangerous. Wouldn't this type of discussion be more suited for D2?

poor post, no real content, no vote, no pressure
+scum points.

NOTE TO EVERYONE: THIS DISCUSSION IS VERY DANGEROUS.

Then stop being a douche and let Jason answer the question directed at Jason for reasons Jason put forward in a post by Jason.

Also bear in mind the fact I never asked Jason to provide flavor nor did I ask Jason to provide his character. Explanation later - after Jason reflects on his post and my question.

If Yates is scum, almost any response that jason gives(gave) will indicate something or other to yates. fucking, major scumpoints to Yates.

-So clearly scum could have such a motivation. Miller > Cop.... PGO > All town PRs. And zero excuse for why scum didn't NK. Scum might NK a baddass TownMiller. Scum will never NK a PGO.

-this exactly.

It's the same thing with a vig or sk, they won't target the claimed PGO. If Aco's play isn't shinning bright town, he should be gone before LyLo.

Kublai Khan's 30 came off as scummy. My self-vote was RVS vote, no reason to treat it as anything but, just because I chose myself to RVS vote.

clearly this isn't true.

VOTE: Rapidcanyon

Thoughts?

I am not a fan of anybody on the Aco wagon.

The claim fits the theme,

but it's different enough from the expectation that it's unlikely that he pulled it out of his ass. I'm pretty sure some of the pressure on him is scum looking to push a mislynch.

Also, Solid Snake is a main character, and one that we'd generally assume is in the game. I feel like it would be too ballsy to fakeclaim when somebody could very easily nameclaim and send him to the gallows quick.

This struck me as a very bad post.

FoS: Zabriel

I am more enlightening everyone to previously effective scum tactics. I think this is the second time you've made false undermining statements regarding me.

But Ben, all but a few of the playerbase have been here awhile. So there's little need to enlighten. That's cute. Ben pushed back.

I am not a fan of anybody on the Aco wagon.

no one is voting him. lol

Why do people think this is town? Zab is ignoring

EVERYTHING

directed at him. Slot needs death.

1. i am unaware of the current meta game.
2. yes

I am more enlightening everyone to previously effective scum tactics. I think this is the second time you've made false undermining statements regarding me.

But Ben, all but a few of the playerbase have been here awhile. So there's little need to enlighten. That's cute. Ben pushed back.

I am not a fan of anybody on the Aco wagon.

no one is voting him. lol

Why do people think this is town? Zab is ignoring

EVERYTHING

directed at him. Slot needs death.

That's a good point, what wagon? Did I ever even get a vote? I certainly have none now.

Yea, I voted you on page one, then unvoted when it was pointed out to me I was wrong. Sorry about that one lol

don't apologize.

I dunno, it's early day 1 and people have been going mad over stupid. People have been going apeshit over a claim based on a couple of fanboys bitching about Solid Snake being the most badass badass that ever badassed. And no, I didn't look at the vote count. I was just looking at the pressure in thread. That's what I meant by wagon.

No, Ben went apeshit about how scum claiming PGO is the new scum claiming Miller tactic. Very little of it had to do with Snake being a badass.

Acosmist seems town, and his claim seems legit. I think the FOXDIE part seems like a good explanation to the role.
Right now, out of what has been posted, Yates seems the scummiest to me. His role/flavor fishing doesn't seem good, especially because I get the feel that he's experienced enough to know that that isn't a good thing to do.
I need to do some ISO's and stuff though.
More tomorrow.
UNVOTE: for now.

vote someone............

Ben is so town that it hurts. Also Tammy are town.

Yates, Zabs, Cyber are scum reads.

Vote: Zabriel

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Kise has failed to meet activity requirements so a search for a replacement will now begin. If he posts within the thread before a replacement is found he will remain in the game.

BloodCovenant has recieved his first prod.

YEEEEEAAAAH READING NOW

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the only reason why i'm playing the game, thank god your back in.

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If Yates is scum, almost any response that jason gives(gave) will indicate something or other to yates. fucking, major scumpoints to Yates.

Well, that isn't true now is it? He satisfactorily answered my question. Do you know anything about Jason's alignment, role, or flavor? [Just for the uber paranoid - DO NOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION - unless you are scum buddies - then cool.] If you do, it isn't because of anything I asked him.

so i'm not allowed to answer a question that taints me in a bad light. got it. thanks.

Wow, first time I've seen a daykill before.

Not much information.

From what we've got out though, it looks like flavor is matching the works pretty well, since if I remember right Psycho Mantis is the guy that can read your mind and keep you from doing things. Roleblocker fits that well.

I'm not sure we're dealing with coaching. It's possible, but it seems like the kind of thing you'd say to create fake associative tells. I don't know AV's scum meta, but it felt a lot like the last micro I played with him. He was arrogant, but he managed to peg the scum team pretty early in that game. I have townread on Yates, but if we're dealing with

two mafias,

Jason might not actually be a bad vote.

For now, I think I'm going to jump over to the KK wagon because I agree with the points put forth by RC and Kise.
VOTE: KK

This post is just full of fence sitting/IIoA.


what do you mean two mafias?

Kise has failed to meet activity requirements so a search for a replacement will now begin. If he posts within the thread before a replacement is found he will remain in the game.

BloodCovenant has recieved his first prod.

YEEEEEAAAAH READING NOW

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the only reason why i'm playing the game, thank god your back in.

You are the biggest fucking douche on this site.

well fuck you too. now i have a scum read on you.

I actually did have scum feel on KK earlier, I'm not sure if I mentioned it or not though.

And I don't have town feel on Ben

exactly because the things I disliked about him weren't much to do with AV.

I'm mostly just pretty sure Ben isn't scum with AV.

like you said before, two mafias, what do you mean? do you think there are two scum teams?

Vote: Zabriel

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@nero, i just noted two possible slips where he indicated more than 1 scum team. interesting shit man.

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@nero, i just noted two possible slips where he indicated more than 1 scum team. interesting shit man.

And this is bad "Look at this nail in the coffin I found" stuff. He didn't slip. He's not saying "there

is

2 scum teams". Furthermore it's not even scummy to postulate about multiple scumteams in a large theme game.

How do you know, why are you answering the question for him? covering for your scum buddy?

Unvote:
Vote: Theadmiral

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@MOD, NO access until 10pm est tonight, or possibly until tomorrow mid-day.

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Nero and BloodCovenant jumping on Yates' #78 doesn't sit well with me.

It's pretty clear he wasn't fishing for roles or flavor.

This kind of shit you just can't know for certain.

Seriously doubting his claim because of this is just absurd, especially without knowing the flavor. Unless he's actually doing something scummy, why lynch him, it's not like, say.... A hated townie.

ಠ_ಠ

And not to mention, the whole 2 mafias thing with Zabriel.
My thoughts are the same as ThAdmiral in his #277
And why the vote on ThAd? You haven't said anything before this.
VOTE: Blood Covenant

I voted Thad because of his chainsaw defense of Zab.

I am not entirely sure that it was a dayvig that killed AV as opposed to a daytime serial killer. AV made 4 posts and none of them seemed really scummy to me when read while ignoring the fact that we already know his alignment. So, why would a dayvig feel the need to shoot so quickly and on someone who barely had any posts?

the same question goes for a day SK. And what makes you think there is a Day SK? Can you link me to the last game where you know of a day SK?

-BC/Zab are not teammates, but I'm willing to be that at least one of them are scum. Maybe both if Zabs slipped on this being multiball

How does that indicate my alignment?

Zabriels 418 feels like a sheep of Benmage's 416 as a way to start a new wagon.

good posting from jatown

Ya. Melmond should die too.

Votes Zabriel for gut.
Switches to BC for doubting the Acosmist claim.
FoS's Acosmist.
Defends Zabriel from the 2-team slip attack.
???
Townread on Zabriel.

best post from you all game.


Town
Ben
Tammy
Jason
Kise

Leaning town
Nero


Null
Aco
zoro
snifit
kk
RC
Shahrizai

leaning scum
Yates
KK
RC
AP

Scum
Zabriel
Melmond
Cyber

Vote: Zabriel

Rather lynch him first over Melmond.

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BC, you have been posting elsewhere, why not here?

takes time to read dude.

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BC, you have been posting elsewhere, why not here?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4426464

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No sweat, AP. You seem to be a decent chap.
And yeah, meta only goes so far, but it is especially worthless when one can't make comparisons to both town and scum games. Like you, I've only played as town, so I just kinda shrug when people say I'm not showing my town game or whatever.

I can't imagine how it's possible that BloodCovenant is not the leading wagon. Unless we lynch Melmond instead, I guess. At any rate zabriel and AP would be bad lynches.
P-edit didn't BC just come off V/LA?

Hey, in your catch up post you made no mention of IAmInnocent, but you said that you'd be willing to lynch him over me, what about AP's posting made you change your mind on the slot?

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BC, you have been posting elsewhere, why not here?

takes time to read dude.

Prob town.

for a second there, i almost thought my posts weren't going through

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P-edit: BC, why the townread on Nero?

1. he's not voting me
2. he's proactive
3. he's funny.

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Hey, in your catch up post you made no mention of IAmInnocent, but you said that you'd be willing to lynch him over me, what about AP's posting made you change your mind on the slot?

Err, I'm having trouble finding things that aren't wrong in this post.
1) My catchup did mention IAI (granted, just that I'd mostly skipped his posts and would be reviewing him).
2) I didn't say I'd be willing to lynch him over you--I said I didn't object to his wagon.
3) AP's towntelling like a boss.

hmmm, i misread the end of your post then. Also, what i meant to say (instead of saying that your post made no mention of him) was that you didn't go into detail on him at all.

And are you sure AP's towntelling? and you're not just giving him a free-pass because he replaced in and is actually posting?

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@ThAd, I've got a heavier scum read on cyber, and no real read on Zoroaster, wanna start a Cyber wagon with me?

Unvote:
Vote: Cyber

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Anywhose, glad to see noone was like zomg Snake must be town, as that is baloney.

Do you want to roleclaim?

That isn't a role fish and you know it. I never asked him for his role OR his character name. It's a simple exercise. If you are going to speculate that roles

may not

match flavor, wouldn't you check yourself before posting?

Yeah, it is.

This bolded really stood out to me while ISO'ing zoro. Doesn't sit well at all.

that would be MGS theme exclusive.

I forgot there for a moment that Acosmith claimed Snake. Don't know how.

@Zoroaster, I'm assuming you're up to date with the thread now? What's your opinion on IAI?

Actually do not remember reading one post by him, so you're going to have to give me time on that.

That being said, if he's not a replacement, he's leaning scum off the bat.

Ah. I see why you ask now Benmage. That does throw my read off a bit. There's time though--so I'll stick with gut for the time being.

Unvote, Vote: Zabriel

scummy post. calls an inactive player scum. It's kind of like calling the kettle black. hmmm... that would definitely be interesting if he votes AP in the future based off that reasoning.


Actually, Cyber and Zoro have some interesting interactions between each other, almost as if there is some coaching coming from Zoro to Cyber, but i could just be misinterpreting that. If either of them get lynched that would yield some juicy shit.

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So both Zoroaster and AV were coaching me? Interesting that I never picked up on any of that.

Not going to bother reading through this right now as things are heating up in my other game.

I don't like how confident you're sounding in this, AP. That picture should be /picardfacepalm.jpg

convenient that you showed up at 3.17am (est) to respond to this wagon. shows that you're paying attention, and yet not scum hunting.

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ask me stuff too

what's your thoughts on this cyber wagon? who are your top scum reads?

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IDK, I kinda think AV scum would be less likely tell his buddy to sheep him but idk.

Wait. What? Are you saying scum have day talk?

scum can usually talk pre-game even if they don't have day talk.

what makes you think AV would tell his buddies to sheep him pre-game? Not only would that be poor play, but that would mean that AV would likely be the best player on the scum team. regardless, that's poor speculation.

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ask me stuff too

what's your thoughts on this cyber wagon? who are your top scum reads?

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Jason, what does the Zabriel flip tell you about Acosmist? You've spent an awful lot of time saying that, but you have done very little to clarify why.

It has been clarified... it was due to the amount of defending Zab was doing on Acosmist.

Yes, but is Zabriel White-knighting or defending a buddy if he flips scum?

Whatever way you'll twist it. What do I win for getting that right?

ideal: you die today so you can't!

Who are your top scum reads, and what do you think of the cyber case?

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8 posts in name of the wind

1 post in political corruption

3 posts in GD

Just shut up and play and stop being a whiny lil' prick.

Chill the fuck out Nero. If she wants to play, let her play at the pace she can. Don't be so insensitive.

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I've been voting Pidgeon for a while and he doesn't acknowledge me at all. Obviously doesn't want to start a fight with my slot. But my vote is on him; how can he not? How can he be so sure that my vote is legit and I'm not scum trying to railroad him?

Benmage was saying things that were objectively bad strategy. Until someone comes along and says that Benmage is really, really bad at mafia, something I haven't noticed in my experience with him, I'm holding him to the standard of knowing the basics of the game. Bad advice is scum advice in cases that aren't borderline.

ThAd's posts (at least some of them) don't engage with the thread at all. It's like he's posting here accidentally and means to be responding to a different game. "Wait, that never happened" is my response to most of them replying to or talking about me. It's like he wishes I said things so that he could criticize them, but I didn't, but, hell, he's committed to the passive-aggression anyway, so RAMMING SPEED.

Yates is off. I'll figure out why he is off eventually.

you were just asked for scum reads, and you give this which is borderline fence sitting.

Why its fence sitting in my eyes

-You were asked scum reads
---You listed 4 players and called none of them scum .
---Of the listed players you mention shit they did, but don't mention how or if it's scummy.

I'd definitely be kosher with your lynch after a post like this.


Preview edit:
I just noticed Aco, you've been voting AP for 10 pages now (pretty much when he replaced in) for when he essentially poked fun at you. And your for your reasoning in your top line... well.... that's pretty shitty. If you've been paying attention to the thread, i think you would have better reads than the cop-out response you gave in post 666.

So aco, who are your real scum reads?

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????????????????

Those are the real ones. Wanna lynch me today?

the only reason you gave for calling someone scum was benmage, and it was hardly any sound reasoning. If that's the best detective work you can do, we probably should lynch you pretty soon. >.>

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You sure like PLs, BC.

This has nothing to do with his role if that's what you mean.

I've willing to vote him based on his negligence to give actual scum reads, something a town player isn't likely to skimp on.

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You think hes lying about his list of reads? It sounded like you were just calling him bad town before.

hmmm.....

It's not so much that i think he's lying, i think he's trying to look like he's scum hunting, when he's not doing shit.

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Frysquint.jpg

If what i've said makes any sense =/

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cyber wagon is a distraction from actual scumwagons

So cyber is town?

Who is "distracting" with the cyber wagon? This implies it is scum driven. Is it? By whom?

This could be interesting.

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Nero/AP fuck that noise. Let's discuss something else....

like....


why you're not voting Cyber? (directed at Nero)
-and what is your opinion on why i'm voting him?

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That's really the only thing I'm seeing from Snifit that could be seen as scummy. His movement on BC seems gradual and natural. He's a little lurky, but I think there are definitely better targets out there.

hey zab, while you're here, can i get your input as to why you slipped that there might be two scum teams?

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@BC because flavor and scum reads that didn't make sense in my mind to be connected to AV, but still didn't feel town after he died.

and that makes you believe that there are two scum teams?

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It makes me believe that it's a possibility. I also just like it for flavor. I'm a huge HP dork and prefer Voldemort to not co-operate with muggles.

what makes you think Voldemort is in the game? (let alone mafia) And that's terrible logic to presume two scum teams.

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How is this not real content?

Wallposts with no content are, by definition, not real content.

I'm not reading them and my presumption is that anyone making one is scum trying to hide stuff behind squid ink.

So, by all means, let the scumclaims continue.

Really you're just not going to read the game..
You're not really scumhunting, just voting various people with no reason, saying your not reading the wall posts, you're just making a bunch of jokes. And you seem to be riding off your PGO claim.

What I've been thinking for a while now is that if you're not a PGO, you're a jester. That would make sense to me, because by claiming PGO you're not going to get NK'd and by playing like you are, you could very easily get lynched at some point, it wouldn't be a bad way to play it.

we should policy lynch you for suggesting this.

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@BC because flavor. There weren't a whole lot of important villains in HP. Unless all the villains are MGS characters or we have some shenanigans going on, I feel like Voldemort is a reasonable assumption. All my thoughts on the subject are based on the flavor being consistent with canon. I feel like I'm repeating myself a lot and it's not really helping to keep talking about my flavor-nerding.

Well, he's not going anywhere unless we lynch him KK. I'm not really up for a policy lynch right now though.

Speaking of, what's that about a policy lynch on Melmond BC? Why not just actually call him scummy?

He's suggesting that Aco is a jester.

There were plenty of villains in HP. The Deatheaters, Draco, Bellatrix, wormtail, hell.... the dursleys could be scum. playing the game under the assumption that this or that character based on the flavor has to be scum, is a worthless way to play.

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@AP, that flavor portion of my #736 had nothing to do with the jester speculation, just zab's view of the game.


@AP, hell yeah it's scummy.

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UNVOTE: Cyber
VOTE: Melmond

@BC: Why did you specifically suggest a PL of Melmond for the jester spec? Is it scummy or not?

you're fucking putting me in an annoying spot here bro.....

Saying that if melmond flips scum that i am likely scum too, when you're essentially asking me to vote him >.>

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@mod Probably /LA till sunday.... at latest monday. Work long ours the next two days. sorry

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Hey guys, i'm about to have a fucking hurricane rip though my city. I'm probably going to be going dark for a day or two. With that, i'm still interested in going into the night phase, that way while the powers out i won't be missing anything. With that, i'm going to vote the lead wagon, and won't move my vote until the powers up (if no one hammers).

Also noted that Cyber is replacing out... zzzz....

Definitely willing to lynch melmond though,

Unvote:
Vote: Melmond

I've had scumspicion of him which may be available in my iso.

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Forgot about this game T.T

Going to work, hopefully a post tonight or tomorrow. I have a shit ton of catching up to do.