Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

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confirm.

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I've never done this before, but it's right.

Claiming Miller

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Now to actually read.

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Greatpostan about Andy's FOS and no vote.

Nikanor and Mastin are town. Secret townlean as well, will reveal after a while.

vote: Andrius

Guy Gardner.

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WHY?

Mastin is town, and he asked.

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Why is Guy a miller, inHim?

From what I understand, it has to do with all the red energy I have.

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None of that was mentioned as a reason. Has to do with Red Energy/Lantern-ness.

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If/when Andrius turns up scum, Toast is a viable lynch.

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^^Vote on me was bad.

Hello, scum.

Voting me for being an idiot when kondi and vezok are in the game? Do you not see the problem here?

o_O

1) he's not voting you
2) he's not calling you scum for "being an idiot" - it's based off your play toward Andrius.

vote: Toast

- I like this better than Andrius because while Andrius MIGHT be scum, the above post is all kinds of KILLITWITHGREENFIRE bad.

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I see.

Hm.

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Pretty sure thats not how it works, or thats what i got from my PM at least.

How sure is "pretty sure"? Is this an actual counterclaim? Since you've already made it obvious that you're a white lantern you should ask for more detailed information from vezok. If white lantern PMs are worded in a specific way we can potentially clear a couple of people.

Toog is scum, etc. Probably not going to unvote him ever.
I'll be voting Toasty once Toog is dead, though.

My PM is worded in a way that makes me not believe he can straight-up claim white lantern right off the bat, it says something along the lines of we have to wait for them to become part of the game.

I suppose i could just be an exception, but I'm pretty sure he just scum-slipped due to not knowing how our PM's are structured

I hope that made sense :roll:

For vezok, this seems completely null. It wouldn't surprise me if A)he is town, skimmed his PM and saw "White Lantern" or B)he is scum with or without a fakeclaim and skimmed THAT.

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@Toast: Kept it there as a continuing means of observation.


Jeebus people, when talking about game-related info, think first. I know I know, lolfirstpostclaim from me too, but that's a function of Miller play, not a function of getting excited over a theme game. :igmeou:

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vote: Toogeloo

More for what Toast pointed out and less of LLD's "scum trying to get a mislynch" (well, duh.)

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Toog, you're acting awful serious for a vote that is "in jest".

I think by this point we can say that the "Joke Vote" defense is bullshit.

So tell me Toog, am I scum?

Cut by Vezok being creepy and Nikanor echoing me (or me echoing him, whatever).

I don't agree with this.


Actually, considering I DO think it was a joke vote...

unvote
vote: Andrius

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Subliminal and mastin are town btw.

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It's possible that I'm a white lantern, but I doubt it. tans could be lying I guess, but I don't know why he'd do that.

Go to Wikipedia and look up “White Lantern Corps” under the “Members” and “Labors of the Twelve” sections look to see if your character is listed. Report back with a simple Yes or No.

rolefishrolefishrolefish

I read your post, AGMoI, and can't help to think this is a rolefish attempt.

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@tans: you're Larfleeze again?

Ironic eh? That's what I meant, I think the mods may be screwing with us and MoI is black cult again. My alignment is town this time though. Apparently the green lantern's couldn't handle the black on their own and had to ask me for my help. :lol:

I knew this is where you were going with it, and just. No.

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Clarify please. So we're not scummy? Just moving there as you decide whether or not to push these lynches? Because I find tans very town ATM.

Wanted everyone on the list to answer to my suspicions. The only person who has failed is nopoint.

Unvote:Vote:Nopoint

RED ALERT RED ALERT RED ALERT

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Let's get one thing straight
- Black lantern(s) are mod-confirmed to be cult (Dueling cults is fun to speculate on but barring new info, I'll just assume it's one cult)
- Really shouldn't matter who the scum team is right now
- "Lynch scum for the first lynch; lynch cult for second lynch" is funny. Cult's obviously the growing threat and trust me - we are going to have a hard time lynching CR even if two lynches are spent on the cause.

Also, finally, Andrius is not cult - so your votes are better used elsewhere.

I'll whittle down the rest of the list for possible CRs and come up with a lynch list - expect a post on this in

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Take a good look, everyone - ooba just dropped the single largest possible tell in a multiscum game.

He wants us to focus exclusively on the Black Lantern cult instead. There are at least two gaping problems here:
- Cult growth will be weaker than in a game with a single lynch per day, since town can outlynch Cult.
- So, what happens when we spend, say, three game days focusing lynches on Cult (assuming 4-5 kills per cycle [lynch x2, Mafia kill, SK kill, Vig kill?), managing to get a few of them but not finding the leader? Well, unless we managed to accidentally catch a Mafioso or two along the way we probably LOSE, because that would leave about 10 players alive and we're probably dealing with a larger-than-normal Mafia group.

See, I'd say the wiser course of action is to lynch scummy players D1 and start focusing on one faction once we've seen a few flips from the other faction.

Now, why does ooba want us to focus exclusively on one scumgroup D1? Because he's scum from the other faction (Mafia) and wants to a) buy a pass for not hunting other members of his faction and b) potentially buy his faction a free pass into lategame.

Dogpile on ooba, everyone, he's not town. We can find the Cult Recruiter with the second lynch, kay?

- Tar

This is a good post.

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Do miller's ever have any abilities?

role modularity

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I actually don't agree with the last part of Tar's logic there inHim.

Yes, the cult is balanced much better by having double day lynches.

HOWEVER;

Ooba searching for a cult recruiter and wanting the cult dead ASAP is not a scum tell for me. Sorry, I don't see the logical process in which that is exclusively SCUM.

And considering that Tar's entire case as far as I can tell is based on this point, I do not agree with an Ooba vote (especially since he's gut town for me ATM).

It makes him more likely to be scum, imo. Not exclusively, but more likely.

I'm not voting ooba at the moment, I'd like him to list his 8 potential CRs...

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I don't understand why people think that they can tell one type of scum from another on day one with no flips.
HUMILITY IS DEAD.

The only thing close to a guarantee I can give you is that the CR has not gambited out of the gate. As for other stuff, loliagree.

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Also I can't believe you guys actually bought the fake guilty.
LOL SANE MASON DAY COP.
It worked out well though. :D

trolololololo


Hi, LLD. Not scum, thanks for playing. Good read on Toog, I was there until your attack lol.

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@FM:
1> No.
2> I think cult would get a bland kinda fake-claim like a VT.

Tans confirmation that Lex Luthor is in the game is more reason to think Ooba's not a fake claim, fake alignment maybe, but not fake claim,

thus not cult.

Mastin needs to play or die.

I don't think Ooba is cult. I think Apok is cult

HERE"S A SCUM.

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ooba dead yet?

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Oh yeah, Apok is likely scum.

nopoint, Tans went over how he also had Ganthet mentioned in his role PM.

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Am I just going to be able to OMGUS LLD when I'm town and catch scum? Sweet.

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nopoint's town, mastin. Just trust me on this one.

Is he part of the PManigans?

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Third cult is Twilight cult.

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Good God this is frustrating.

Ok inHim, question time:

Why did you believe Toog's vote was a Joke Vote?

Why did you vote Andrius?

Why did you vote Ooba?

You explicitly said you believed that Toasty's case was good and thought Toog was scum. Why did you abandon that train of thought until a cop claim came around?

You're lucky I'm in a



Toog's vote had a smiley with it, I do believe.
I voted Andrius because he started the game on the scummy side of aggressive. He got better.
Did I vote ooba? Yeah? Probably because of the attention he gave to CR hunting.
Yeah, Toasty's case was good. Your vote on Toog was terrible, because I DID believe it was a Joke Vote, and so I leapt off of that with the greatest of ease. I wasn't around post cop-claim, don't know wtf you're going on about there.


Your rage is unconvincing.

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Actually if that was LLD busing Toog that's funny.

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Ok Andrius, time to play a game then.

Mastin
Subliminal
inHim
Oversoul

One of these is red scum.

Guaranteed.

I think it's inHim. You think I'm wrong.

Show me which one it is.

LLD is confirmed for death.

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but after I looked at a wiki article on him I think his alignment could change to SK with a BLkilling wincon

ooba, if this is the case come clean now and we'll let you do your thing.

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but the fallout from it has produced a lot of nice content and has people

Mind finishing this sentence?

on edge based upon his reads of them.

(Hint: he's scum. Now confirmed. Especially with Friend apparently as town. There should be zero doubt that Ghost is scum.)

Wait, how is Friend confirmed town?

Hm.

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ooba said he'd deliver thoughts.

I won't hammer until then, but not much else out of me for the rest of this weekend, methinks.

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LLD prob deserved it. :roll:

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BAHABAHABABAHABAHABAHABAHABAH

i will catch up today.

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WLC over Apok for CR? Why?

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Fuck work.

vote: Apokalyptika

Someone's going to have to explain to be the White Lantern nonsense. My take on it thus far: White Lanterns don't have their rings yet. Mr. Subliminal gambitclaimed The Entity, Sender of Rings, and some WLs responded yes and some no? Or just hiplop yes? Can we get a list of Yes/No answers to that question?

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to me* the

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DISCLAIMER: I don't remember all the claims, and won't get myself around to figuring out everything just yet. From memory:

The Wonder Quads

- nopointinactingup
- Nikanor
- Friend
- zMuffinMan

Town

- ToastyToast
- vezokpiraka
- tanstalas
- hiplop
- Mr. Subliminal
- inHimshallibe

Floaters but probably not CR

- GhostWriter
- Oversoul
- PeregrineV
- Blackberry

Bad

- Kast
- Andrius
- WeyounsLastClone
- Apokalyptika
- Candle Jack

Shoot holes in this.

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Toasty isn't town, bah. :|

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I knew I forgot something.

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Inhim, I'm curious, what is your reasoning for putting me on your baddie list?

I don't really read your posts, I just make lists.

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Not really. I read a few of your openers, decided you spent a lot of words saying very little, so I just read the first few words or so of a paragraph, and read further if I think it requires such.

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V/LA through tomorrow. Not at work at all today, so I won't be at a comp past 9:00 or so.

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ohai breakage.

Will list my faves momentarily...

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GW, CJ, WLC


Multiple bad people in there. ^^

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Claim.

vote: GhostWriter

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Did not like Subliminal's skrewing around with the Friend vote and such.

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Who do I vote to make this Day end?

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Oh. Well, come on then.

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already voting :p

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Sorry for not being here. Well, I'm not actually SORRY, but I do regret my general uselessness.


Anyone with a recap? I'll start reading.

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Thanks. You can be town now.

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Why did CJ out the power change information?