I dislike the idea of a mass roleclaim this early. We can use the probable structure of the game to our advantage, but I think we need to have more information before that's actually feasible.
So, I'm suspicious of EnPaceRequiescat. Part of it is his eagerness to vote for me, for what (as far as I can tell) is no actual reason. A while back he voted for me because my rule my rule had a flaw -- people could "choose to ignore your rule and follow other rules... it just makes following rules annoying." The first half of that little quote there was part of the point of my rule; the second is completely false.
After that, he jumped back onto the Gnome bandwagon just before Gnome roleclaimed, unvoted afterward, didn't really participate in the debate over what plan to follow, and then made this post:
At the top of page 7, EnPaceRequiescat wrote:Hey... I think coolbot made an important observation on calvin's imagination versus real characeters. under that, god's rule has a smaller margin size (as gnome is more suspicious, so we have a larger chance of catching scum). And with god's latest quote of modargo, I think modargo is very likely an ally of MGIA. And remember Polar Boy's post on how masons are not as important, and therefore may not be as high priority. The mafia could easily go back later to kill gnome, and they also know that if gnome is a role blocker and follows god's plan, they will not be role blocked.
so,
vote: modargo for his subtle protections of MGIA
and I'd also note that modargo was anti-rule before, perhaps trying to draw our attention away from them? But it is important to note that carefully used rules can be beneficial for the town, such as picking out dangerous loopholes like those in MGIA's.
Now, if you read over that post once, you might think that there's some actual reasoning there. But then if you read over it again, you realize that his argument is "modargo is trying to protect Gnome. Therefore, modargo is an ally of Gnome. Therefore, we should vote for modargo."
Now, maybe it's just me, but I don't see how he supports that reasoning at all in his post other than just saying it, and I also don't see why you would even follow that reasoning. In the same breath, you're saying that Gnome is suspicious but we should test him, and that everyone should vote for someone who could be his ally? If you find Gnome so suspicious that you want to vote for people who could be Gnome's allies, why wouldn't you vote for Gnome? And more importantly, if you're uncertain enough about Gnome that you want to let him live long enough to be tested, why would you vote for someone because they are "very likely an ally of MGIA"?
Basically, either you think Gnome is suspicious enough that we should lynch him and people who could be his allies; or you think that there's enough of a chance that Gnome is innocent that we should leave him alive to test, which implies that there's no reason to lynch people who are "very likely an ally of MGIA" until MGIA himself is tested. And whichever way it is, it's a contradiction between your rhetoric and your actions.
It looks to me like he just posted a bunch of random agreements with Coolbot, God, and PolarBoy, and then tried to start a bandwagon on me, using whatever reasons he could come up with. Most likely because he thought people would be eager to jump on someone who was disagreeing with the majority about what plan to follow.
Thus,
vote: EnPaceRequiescat
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Also, I'd like to note that my arguing in favor of Gnome was in no way subtle. I argued for a plan that would produce better results if Gnome is innocent because (gasp)... wait for it...
I think Gnome is innocent
. It seems to me that if he were scum, he would have done a number of things differently (probably starting with not claiming a role that could be viewed as antitown, and not claiming something as rare (or testable) as a roleblocking mason group). But anyway, just in case that somehow wasn't clear before, I'm stating it clearly here.
Directed to the Mod: I'd like to see a vote count. I'd also like to know the following: Who PolarBoy replaced and why it isn't noted in the first post (he isn't on the list in the signup thread either); if tehgood is still in the game; and if Leonidas is still in the game (I assume so, but he's still made only one post).