NY135: Sexy Sedilla Semi-Open - Town Wins

[Knight of Cydonia]

They see me confirming
They hating

[Knight of Cydonia]

/claim Jester

Vote: Knight of Cydonia

Evening all.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Okay, let's make this quick - scum, out yourselves now, we'll lynch you, everyone is happy.

[Knight of Cydonia]

"Trying too hard" is right up there with "too town to be town" and "so scummy he must be gambiting". Fuck that shit.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Fourteen pages? Fuck you guys.

[Knight of Cydonia]

RECAP MINI WALL GO

Well sure mate.

I don't know you, i really don't, i was baiting for a reaction, pretty nice and stuff, people said you're an accqiured flavor and i'm tasting it myself.

UNVOTE:

my real is most likely oversoul, but he's noob so there's the hard line between noobscum and noobtown, but it's a good vote nonetheless.

VOTE: Oversoul

THEY SEE HE BACKPEDALLIN'
THEY HATIN'
Also pushing a lynch on a noob because he's a noob? REEEEEALLY NOW?

Later claims his vote was a) because Oversoul claimed responsibility for the Idher wagon and b) to end RVS. Here's the post he referred to:

w00t! I started that Idher wagon.

Must get rid of all the hydras.

Yes, this looks

entirely serious

to me and

totally not a joke at all

. [/sarcasm]

Ythan, kanye and Îdher are town. Hiraki and parabollocks are scum.

Unvote, vote: parabollocks

-implosion

Parabollocks wagon also kinda stupid. In fact, I would go so far as to say that he's probably town.

-Ether

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE REASONING BEHIND THIS? YOU PROVIDE NOTHING. NOOOOOTHIIIIIINNNNNG

Hiraki is the single player most likely to be scum.

Voting Ythan is stupid.

-Ether

SCUM.

Unvote, Vote: Îdher

Mmmm, I love the smell of OMGUS in the morning. Wait, no, no I don't. Stop it. Naughty Hiraki.

If you had a second vote, you would want to also put it on Hiraki. Cydonia is still on the "figure out later" list.

-Ether

I should bloody hope so, since the only thing I'd posted at that point was a joking self-vote Jester claim, a request for the scum to out themselves, and a comment on Parabollocks' bollocks.

Hmmzorz.

Hiraki, you're playing a tad different from 00's, i don't think i remember you this jokey,

Meta is not a valid tell where anyone semi-competent at Mafia is concerned, and your attempt to slyly imply something about Hiraki is noted.

Parabollocks still town. Hiraki still obvobvobvscum. Dunno what SpyreX is smoking.

I am eagerly looking forward to what Swag thinks about that stuff he was reading yesterday.

-Ether

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSOOOOONNNNIIIIINNNNNG
WHERE IS IT

Para's constant answering of the question he wants to answer, instead of the one SpyreX and then T-Bone ask of him, is noted.

Could you give your reasons?

both me and hiraki.

Well Hiraki I was kind of following Idher, but I realize he isn't scum, and do you really need an explanation?

Swag, come to the Headmaster's office for 6 of the best. Very, very bad. Following an unconfirmed-alignment player for no reason? Check. Jumping off that onto another major wagon and not giving a reason? Check.

Parabollocks as newbtown is completely obvious in every way.

I would like to know what he thinks of Hiraki, though.

-Ether

Giving someone a newbtown pass, and then leading questioning of that person? Ew.

There is absolutely no substance in this post. If you mean to make a point here then make one.

is basically

"it's not helping the town, he's scum."

i'm not even attacking you anymore.

Jesus H Christ bleeding and crying like my baby sister on the cross, could you

be

making more of a leap here, Para?

Para, you've made a lot of unbiased posts, and not very smart moves. You're trying to cover yourself up too hard. Obvious scum is obvious. VOTE: Parabollocks

Erm... would you like to explain what these "not very smart moves" are, and how precisely he's trying to "cover himself up too hard"? For the record, I agree, but you don't get to make "obvious scum is obvious" calls without, y'know, actually providing some evidence.

This whole Ethos vs. Ythan/SpyreX...

thing

reads like three townies beating the shit out of each other. Guys, there are far squishier, scummier targets. LAY YOUR PIPES UPON THEM. Do agree with Ythan that the whole "look at my games as scum, I do this, I'm not doing that now" thing is the worst kind of meta bullshit defence though.
(For those who need this explaining: statement "look at my games as scum, I do X, therefore since I'm not doing X here, I'm not scum" is logically flawed as it fails to account for the fact that the person making the statement has noted their action X as scum, and could therefore be making a concerted effort to avoid action X - actively playing on their meta)

That said, Ethos' (Regfan's) list of reads are B to the U to the L-L-SHIT, how can you have null reads on some people who've hardly posted (myself at this point, Kunk) and scum reads on others (Mask)

Oversoul #268 is [goodposting], I wonder whose alt you are...

Jesus Christ this game is even more painful to read than [REDACTED FOR ONGOINGNESS]

To be perfectly honest, it's mostly meta-related. The last game I played with TheMask was Spare Me Mafia, he was scum and active lurked and V/LA'ed through the game until he ended up replacing out. The complete lack of attempt by him to to assist progressing the game in any way before leaving reads as highly similar to that.

Regfan.

FUCK YOU
Meta is not good enough to upgrade null to scum(and not part-scum, leaning-scum or whatever, you specifically stated

scum

at page 12 on D1. HE'S V/LA. V/LA =/= SCUM. IS THAT A HARD CONCEPT TO GET IN THERE?
Agreed with T-Bone that the Spyrex/Ythan/Ethos circlejerk accomplished nothing but take focus off the likely scum.

unvote; vote: swag

... I dunno, I still think there's something behind him lurking when the game started. Haven't read the 11 pages I missed but I see 6 votes on Para so lol, no.

...dammit Mask, I just called someone out for bitching at your for lurking and shitposting AND NOW YOU DO THIS

In conclusion
SKEET SKEET MOTHERFUCKER

Vote: Parabollocks

[Knight of Cydonia]

Gimme an O!
Gimme an M!
Gimme a G!
Gimme a U!
Gimme a S!
What do you get?!
PARABOLLOCKS

[Knight of Cydonia]

OMGUS =/= voting the first person to vote you

[Knight of Cydonia]

VOTE: Parabollocks

peace MS.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Protip - don't join games if you're going to throw the metaphorical teddy in the corner as soon as shit hits the frying pan.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Parabollocks is still throwing out parabolic arcs of... well, bollocks.

[Knight of Cydonia]

You should probably re-evaluate that KoC townread.

-Amrun

You should probably come up with some kind of reasoning behind this.
Being in a hydra doesn't mean you get to throw shit around without explaining yourself.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Oversoul, I have many reasons for my vote on Quilford and it has little to do with Ethos. I'll throw you all a bone, though, and offer a few:

Quilford, you've asked a lot of questions. What I'm missing are the conclusions.

And the way you talk about people's alignments is sketch.


Oversoul, those in glass houses throw the most stones. (Hint: give actual content before criticizing others' style of play.)

SpyreX, just because parabollocks called you a faggot doesn't make him scum.

-Amrun

You should probably re-evaluate that KoC townread.

-Amrun

You should probably come up with some kind of reasoning behind this.
Being in a hydra doesn't mean you get to throw shit around without explaining yourself.

I'm going to keep asking you for a reason for all this backhanded calling me scum until you give me one.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Oh, and yes, Mask, when you've been lurking like fuck all game so far, to vote for someone because you "still think there's something behind him lurking when the game started", that's shit posting. Also kinda scummy. Oh, and also, what the hell did you mean by

Haven't read the 11 pages I missed but I see 6 votes on Para so lol, no.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Placing my vote on someone and leaving it there = fencesitting? Cool definition bro.

You should probably re-evaluate that KoC townread.

-Amrun

You should probably come up with some kind of reasoning behind this.
Being in a hydra doesn't mean you get to throw shit around without explaining yourself.

I'm going to keep asking you for a reason for all this backhanded calling me scum until you give me one.

Hey look, I'm having to ask you

AGAIN

for an answer to my question.

[Knight of Cydonia]

KoC, parking your vote on the biggest wagon doesn't mean you're not fencesitting. Either way, I don't know why you're getting ypur panties all in a twist. I could be wrong; convince me by doing something original and/or that doesn't suck, not by pissing your pants because one person mentions a mild, off-hand suspicion of you while voting for someone else.

-Amrun

I fail to see how expressing suspicion of two people (Para/Yos and TheMask) equals fencesitting. Please feel free to elucidate, whilst also giving the reason for

You should probably re-evaluate that KoC townread.

-Amrun

You should probably come up with some kind of reasoning behind this.
Being in a hydra doesn't mean you get to throw shit around without explaining yourself.

I'm going to keep asking you for a reason for all this backhanded calling me scum until you give me one.

Hey look, I'm having to ask you

AGAIN

for an answer to my question.[/quote]

this because, look, yet again, you're brushing the questioning off instead of actually answering why you told Ythan (IIRC) to "re-evaluate that townread". It's a clear implication that you don't think I'm town, yet you've given no clear evidence as to why. (Hint: stating it's a "mild, off-hand suspicion" isn't an explanation of why you have that suspicion.)
Also, "parking my vote on the biggest wagon"? 3rd out of 4 (who are still on it), on Day 1 with 9 to lynch, that's hardly parking.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'm starting to grow concerned about how much you care about this.

Do you think there's a scummy reason for Idher to not be saying...whatever it is you want her to say? If there is, then make a case about why it's scummy and start an Idher wagon. If not, then it seems like you're making noise for the sake of making noise.

What part of "not directly answering my question" is not scummy to you, Untrod?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Ok. I just wanted to call you out incase you were trying to lurk and coast through out the game.

Erm... what?
Proper course of action: Call someone out for lurking -> they don't post anything of substance -> continue to call them out for coasting
Oversoul: Call someone out for lurking -> they don't post anything of substance ->

CARRY ON!

Yeah, no.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Oh jesus fuck not Mastin.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I kinda am, in a way. I have raw thoughts in my notes. I then post the conclusions from said raw notes. The conclusion from the conclusion is likely what you're wanting. And I think that--now that the first five (most important, by the way) pages are out of the way, for the moment--I'll be posting less.

The best part is that your reads are probably completely wrong. Cheers.

Not a "here's why I think you're wrong", just "you're wrong stfu"? I may be more than a little pissed with Mastin over [redacted for ongoing] but that doesn't mean he gets an instant dismissal.

Also:

masons give you information

having two or three confirmed townies is incredibly powerful. Plus either the scum has to spend their kills on them instead of other possible power roles if they don't want confirmed townies floating around in the game. Also it gives a possible town cop or vig a smaller number of targets. Information won't hurt the town. It will, however, hurt scum.

to

As far as anything is concerned, we should be treating Masons as power roles. Pretty powerful for a group of people confirmed to each other compare and contrast notes privately. And thus further discussion on the rest of them outing themselves is not pro-town discussion.

Remember the list roles on the first page are POSSIBLE ROLES. What if this mason group are the only power roles and everyone else is Vanilla or scum? Then it would be very bad for them to be outted on Day 1. Bad enough Ethos had to do it.

I don't see a counter-claim, I don't see a mason saying "nope not in my group" which should lead everyone to the conclusion that he isn't lying.

The votes on this lynch train should stop at the next station and hop off.

This post is so wrongheaded it's making me dizzy.

makes pretty much zero sense.

I do just want to throw out a word of caution though - masons are only a

possible

role. For all we know, this is the three scum playing a massive gambit of

• One makes mason claim
  
• Wait for counterclaim
  
• If none is forthcoming, scumbuddies claim partners
  
• If claim IS forthcoming, well, you just found the masons

so while they

may

be extremely useful to town, we shouldn't give them a free pass. They're all confirming each other, which is not the same as being true-confirmed. That said, Untrod's probably the most viable lynch so I'm willing to give them a pass for now.

unvote
vote: UntrodTripod

[Knight of Cydonia]

Yea me too considering there's no way for Empkings "shot" to have not gone through.

Unvote, Vote: Empking

Pretty much this.

Vote: Empking

pending a damn good explanation.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Looks like you forgot a legitimate reason, too. "Hey, this is my one chance to confirm myself by using my vig powers... ehhh, never mind."
Looks like I'm forgetting to unvote too.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Okay. Now that the lynch is good and firm. Let's talk.

A BUNCH of people haven't checked in or made any posts of note.

Fucking this.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Unless we have a vig (which I doubt now) we're going to have to give the scum that double kill at some point. Better to do it now than later in the game, where it could potentially hand them the game during the night.

[Knight of Cydonia]

To clarify, I'm not saying "LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH NOW NOW", by all means have that week of discussion, it's vital, but Empking dies today.

[Knight of Cydonia]

True. If scum came in and speedhammered him to stifle talk, though, it'd be suicide. Can't see anyone doing it.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Hmm.

Kanye's point about Reck's ending night early is a valid point that I did not expect.

I'm going to place this for now though.

Vote: Knights of Cydonia

Btw. I can believe the Empking forgetfullness.

Give him one more night. Fuck it up then, and then there's a definite possibility.

I'd like something more than that for a lynch though.

FFFFFfff.

Tell me what I'm missing here.

Empking is pulling a really hard gambit here.

Not to mention, losing a plausible town PR isn't something I could decide for or against in two minutes.

Also, I don't believe that I found much of anything else wrong with Empking, while others did.

Ima keep my rebel(but correct) attitude.

Those suggesting otherwise are more likely to be scum.

since when did you form a totalitarian state.

I'm not really seeing you making a massive case for Empking's townieness other than "Well, I can believe the forgetting thing."
Chainsaw much?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Wait a minute there kanye.

Mod: would you announce if we were in a potential LyLo situation?

[Knight of Cydonia]

I didn't even notice that "we" at first glance of reading. That reads like a Quicktopic post that was copied over and forgot to have all the "we"s replaced.

Vote: Yosarian

[Knight of Cydonia]

Hrm. I'm still majorly sketchy about Yos, but then his previous record... benefit of the doubt for now, I guess. I'm a little behind here, will have to read up the last few pages.

unvote

[Knight of Cydonia]

Uh, yeah. I have 30 posts in this thread. You picked out a whole 1 in your ISO. Really?

Reeeally?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Oh god fucking dammit I meant to hit preview. EBWOP - That whole "wall" stinks of skimming and an attempt at :goodposting:.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Mod: requesting replacement.