Fall of the Matrix: Game Over!

[HezLucky]

Alright another wall.

We'll start from that last post of mine.

RESPONSE TO AMRUN #531: I think you misread my post. I was saying that I agree with your analysis.

Medicated Lain #532 - seriously? did you just FOS furcolow for something you "find scummy" and then vote a lurker, rather
than piping up to the mod to get him replaced? Badddddd.

ABR #535 - Original town read on ABR. Looked bad with buddying of Surye as mentioned in previous post but I let it slide.
Now he's calling vezokpiraka for his post #534, which is a completely relevant attack on Medicated Lain. CHAINSAW.
(back to scum he goes)

Kison #543 - I'm of the belief that everyone who comments on Medicated Lain #532 should be attacking him over being so
noncommittal and acting like he's scumhunting (by pointing out something scummy and only layin a weak FOS). Kison has been
terrible all game. Notice how he just hops onto a wagon without any explanation as well.

Yosarian #545 - THANK YOU! This vote for Lain is one I now support.

Furcolow #547 - Furc is a bad wagon. I already said this in my previous post. Now he's got a very legitimate vote on
MedicatedLain going. He's also suspicious of LlamaFluff which is ++town in my book.

Zindaras #550 - agree with the "Vezok turns up town" bit, but what is the fucking point of linking to all those games? Ugh.

Agar #554 - wrong. we've had two.

Amrun #557 - I don't see it.

ABR #559 - But at least Amrun had been suspicious of Zindaras before. Ugh @ ABR - youv'e basically gone from obvtown to
obvscum this post.

Zindaras #568 - this is why I didn't see the "Zindaras is useless" view. Zindaras is right. How many players in this game
have been truly useful? [Amrun goes back to a null read - I had him as town my very first post and that is biasing my
observations] [Uneasy on Zindaras' scumtargets though, besides Surye]

Agar #576 - agree here. The Zindaras wagon is baseless. (I have him at 54/100, so he could be scum yes, but how the wagon
was formed has no merit whatsoever so +scum points to anyone on it)

CPE #609 - OKAY WTF NOW HE VOTES FURCOLOW? That's it.

Unvote, Vote: creampuffeater

who has been on seemingly every
poor wagon in this game. (three votes for three obvtown people. okay I don't consider ABR obvtown now, but he was when CPE
voted for him, and when ABR started doing scummy things CPE UNVOTED the guy)

Porochaz #623 - stop with the fucking nicknames dude.

SCUMLIST:
creampuffeater - 61/100
Kison - 59/100
Surye - 56/100
Medicated Lain - 55/100
Zindaras - 54/100
SensFan - 54/100
Toon Fighter - 54/100
AlbertBRampage - 54/100
LlamaFluff - 53/100
Porochaz - 53/100
mozamis/CES - 51/100
MBL - 51/100
Everyone else - 50/100
BrianMcQueso - 50/100
Internet Stranger - 50/100
Amrun - 50/100
Agar - 49/100
vezopiraka - 49/100
Furcolow - 48/100
Yosarian2 - 48/100
Primate - 46/100



Voting CPE for being on every shit wagon this entire game. Furthermore, his last vote was tacking onto a poor wagon. This guy
needs to be lynched.

[Porochaz]

Valerie is Vezok.

And only if you stop it with these pointless point posts.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR #535 - Original town read on ABR. Looked bad with buddying of Surye as mentioned in previous post but I let it slide.
Now he's calling vezokpiraka for his post #534, which is a completely relevant attack on Medicated Lain. CHAINSAW.
(back to scum he goes)

I already mentionned I am biased against a certain someone in this game because he is annoying, but as it isn't relevant to this particular game, I said I would ignore it and move on, although if the opportunity presents itself, I will kill him without hesitation.

[AGar]

Reading up.

We could go for a Furcolow lynch. We haven't liked his play this game either, yaddayaddayadda pretty much what's been said. If there's a vig though, it would be very nice if you could get rid of Vezok for us. <3

-Singer

Please town player, save us a night-kill on this obvtown player so we can optimize ours.

...so, the theory that you're going with here is really that the scum are considering nightkilling Vez, the claimed vanilla who hasn't done anything useful yet and who about half the people in the game want to lynch?

No, I'm saying scum are asking a vig to kill Vezok so they don't have to once they realize pushing a lynch on a player this blatantly town is going to be near impossible, coating it as him being obvious vigbait.

At this point, if Vezok was going to be lynched, he'd be hanging. The case on him is nothing more than mere policy with a hint of "Well I don't like how he's playing, he's not intelligent." If people were going to be swayed, it would've happened by now. He's not going to die, the people who are against voting for Vezok aren't going to change their minds. It's fairly obvious that this was a mislynch that petered out, and as many people have said such, even people (like yourself) who were voting him noted there is a higher probability of him flipping town. This is a player that scum now need dead simply because he cannot be lynched. But killing him wastes a night-kill that could have been instead spent power-role hunting or eliminating stronger town players. Scum don't want to kill him, but they need him dead, as him being alive narrows the mislynch pool.

This Vezo and Furc hate is getting annoying. I'm not supporting their lynch now simply out of principle (or at least until in convinced that they are scum).

Surye is scum for sure.

Consider this:

Furc shows up after his name pops up a bit with some negative connotations about his activity level.
Furc posts, and votes for Vezok, the leading counter-wagon to himself.
Furc justifies his Vezok vote with "Well, he claimed VT." Picks up the worst part of the argument to run with his vote.
Furc is dodgy since, not posting any content, just deflecting any accusation that he was active lurking, and generally lolligagging around.

Surye is still prob-scum, but I see a juicier wagon on Furc right now, with just as good a result. Even better because we might be able to sort out some of the politicians who most definitely have a few scumbags between them.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Why isn't Furcolow dead yet?

[Furcolow]

You voted me without any reasoning whatsoever
Why aren't YOU dead yet?

[Furcolow]

Medicated Lain wrote: "Uhm, what the hell? There's no reasoning here at all, I don't understand this post at all."
I stated "SEEKING A KICKLYNCH ON D1" did I not?
Is that not reason enough for you?
You want to lynch someone who is inactive, when we are fully capable of getting replacements
Only scum should want to do that

I am going to claim
I am a vanilla townie, like Vezokpiraka has claimed
If you want to lynch me, now, ask yourself why the fuck you didn't lynch him as you ever increasingly grow towards outting your power roles

that will be all

[Furcolow]

p.s. i hate to outguess the mod and all, but what mod is going to give me a power role, or put me on a scumteam?
yeah

[Porochaz]

You have been here a year right? So you should know that the roles should be given out totally randomly.

[Internet Stranger]

Heh, I seen Furc be scum at least twice in games I been in.

[Amrun]

IS and I were scumbuddies with Furc.

He got lynched D1.

We won the game withot him.

'Nuff said.

[Yosarian2]

So now we've got TWO people who are claimed vanillas. Greeat.

Furc, did you miss the whole part where I explained why vanillas should never claim, not even to pressure? So frustrating.

[Yosarian2]

That being said...I still don't especially want to lynch Furcolow today. I just don't think he's all that likely to be scum.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Hey hey, let's be consistent here, Yos. Furcolow claimed VT and must die.

[Surye]

Hey hey, let's be consistent here, Yos. Furcolow claimed VT and must die.

Between the self-vote, the VT claim, and trying to push the votes back to Ani in his dying breath for ... yea.

[Yosarian2]

Hey hey, let's be consistent here, Yos. Furcolow claimed VT and must die.

Bah. Consistency is for scum and losers.

Between the two of them, I'd rather lynch Vez then Furcolow. I think Liam is more likely to be scum then either one of them, though.

[Amrun]

Who is Liam?

Can we stop using first names?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hey hey, let's be consistent here, Yos. Furcolow claimed VT and must die.

Bah. Consistency is for scum and losers.

Between the two of them, I'd rather lynch Vez then Furcolow.

QFT

[Yosarian2]

Who is Liam?

Can we stop using first names?

Sorry, typo. Liam should have been Lian. As in, Medicated Lain.

[Porochaz]

You mean Lain then

[Yosarian2]

...yes, yes I do. Sigh.

[Furcolow]

unvote

I have pretty strong townreads on ABR and Yos

[Amrun]

You seriously have nowhere for that vote to go?

[Primate]

I think it's unlikely Furc is scum. I think self-voting is indicitive of town, also I just don't think his behaviours particularly scummy (and I not long ago finished a game with him as my godfather).

I think Suyre probably is.

unvote: Vote Suyre

@Sensfan: Who do you think is likely to be scum outside of Furc?

PS: I am having a hard time getting into the game and would appreciate it if a couple of people would start asking me questions about it, if they're ok with that.

[Primate]

About the game, sorry, not about the fact I'm having a hard time to get into it. Reread that sentence and it looked weird.