Mini 1127 Cult vs Masons OVER. TOWN WINS

[Parama]

I think this is the first game on site where I've played a game to some extent with everyone involved, including the mod.
So Hi to everyone!

vote: chesskid

chainsaw

[Parama]

unvote, vote: Exe

He is scummy mcscumpants.

[Parama]

ANDY. PARAMA, ANDY, EXE ALLIANCE IS GO.



I don't understand the scumandy argument. Sounds like Frenzy Mafia andy to me. Never seen your scum though.

I haven't posted ANYTHING of content, and there's literally no way you could already have me pinned as obvtown, so trying to start an alliance that includes me... you have alterior motives. Like, well, not being lynched.

[Parama]

This is not the AV I remember from Gorrad's FFC Mafia.

lolmeta

[Parama]

Meh.

unvote

for now I think. Want to hear more from everyone.

[Parama]

Andy is starting an alliance, at page 2. Alliances are bad in cult games(Alliance people get recruited, and it'll be bad from then on.)

...no, that was Exe. Start reading.

[Parama]

Let's read thread from start and post reads:

TOWN
Kat
VV
Nacho

SCUM
Exe
AV

NOTICE: My Town reads stay private, but I will leave myself notes so I'm sure I don't forget them.

Scumreasons:
Exe still the same as before
AV might as well just be posting "BAAA BAAA BAAA" with his Exe vote
Then he leaves the vote on Exe even after he says the reasons I'm voting Exe for aren't solid, even though he voted Exe because of my reasons.

Ololol.

unvote, vote: AurorusVox

Less sure about Exe than him, but AV is scum.

[Parama]

NOTICE: My Town reads stay private, but I will leave myself notes so I'm sure I don't forget them.

EBWOP: Ignore this, I didn't have them listed but then I decided (probably against my better judgment) to list them.
BTW, I want a lynch by page 5. The less information for cult, the better.

[Parama]

...

MOD can you fix that there tag? kthx.

No.

[Parama]

V/LA 2/20-2/21

[Parama]

yeah plum i'm the cult leader
you got me
you go girl

Sarcasm of this type is usually disguised honesty. I now believe you are actually the cult leader. Good job.

unvote, vote: chesskid3

[Parama]

Fos: AV

Would be a vote but I like the pressure on Andy.

screw you.

unvote, vote: Exe

For clarity: That's a scum's excuse to stay on the biggest wagon.
Haven't even read past this post yet FYI.

[Parama]

my gut says Parama is CR
>_>
time for gutvoting

Unvote

Vote: Parama

You're next.

[Parama]

Andy, who are your top 3 scumreads? By that, I mean scum in general, not just "oh man this guy is CR".

[Parama]

THIS WORKS TOO.

unvote, vote: Adumbro

LET'S LYNCH SOMEONE, THIS DAY HAS BEEN TOO LONG.

[Parama]

Does Andrius get pissed off every game he's in???

No, only the ones where people put him to L-1 for no reason <_<

[Parama]

Adumbro, claim. I will hammer

regardless of what you claim

.

Added the italic bit, but that's how your statement reads regardless.

[Parama]

lolchessisscum

[Parama]

meta

this is the point where I stop listening to you

[Parama]

HoS: Andy

All the scum are here:
Adumbro
Andy
Exe
chesskid

[Parama]

unvote, vote: chesskid

[Parama]

unvote, vote: Exe

[Parama]

I see 3 wagons on people I want to lynch. This is very good.

[Parama]

unvote, vote: Adumbro

This is the most response to your "case" you're getting <3

[Parama]

OMGUS?

He was already on my scumlist, but now he's attacking me so he needs to die first.

[Parama]

unvote, vote: Adumbro

This is the most response to your "case" you're getting <3

So, could you explain why you think I'm scum then?


Or for that matter why any of these 4 people are scum?


Adumbro
Andy
Exe
chesskid

I find it especially interesting that Andy's on your scumlist and you have never tossed a vote on him even though you've shown a love on wagon-hopping for everybody else and he's had a good strong wagon as well.


So in addittion to that, answer me this, what changed between your 15 and your 19? You were clearly defending him in your 15, why did you drop a HoS there? Why use a HoS when you VOTED EVERY OTHER TIME?

I could.

But... I'm too lazy to do that.

[Parama]

Reposting old stuff:

ANDY. PARAMA, ANDY, EXE ALLIANCE IS GO.



I don't understand the scumandy argument. Sounds like Frenzy Mafia andy to me. Never seen your scum though.

I haven't posted ANYTHING of content, and there's literally no way you could already have me pinned as obvtown, so trying to start an alliance that includes me... you have alterior motives. Like, well, not being lynched.

AV might as well just be posting "BAAA BAAA BAAA" with his Exe vote
Then he leaves the vote on Exe even after he says the reasons I'm voting Exe for aren't solid, even though he voted Exe because of my reasons.

Ololol.

unvote, vote: AurorusVox

Less sure about Exe than him, but AV is scum.

yeah plum i'm the cult leader
you got me
you go girl

Sarcasm of this type is usually disguised honesty. I now believe you are actually the cult leader. Good job.

unvote, vote: chesskid3

Fos: AV

Would be a vote but I like the pressure on Andy.

screw you.

unvote, vote: Exe

For clarity: That's a scum's excuse to stay on the biggest wagon.
Haven't even read past this post yet FYI.

Adumbro, claim. I will hammer

regardless of what you claim

.

Added the italic bit, but that's how your statement reads regardless.

[Parama]

I agree with:

Unvote, Vote: AdumbroDeus

FOUND HIM GUYS.

I get a flailing scum read a mile wide from this post. ATEs, Implicit appeals to consequences of actions, the works.

BUT IS THERE A VOTE?
NOPE.

GOGO LYNCH.

Especially since this is coming from a town read.

Glad to know you're still a useless bag of f*** that still plays games and doesn't bother to read them or actually TRY.
I'm sick of playing with you.

WHY THE FUCK NOT.
YOU HAVEN'T EVEN READ THE FUCKING GAME.
YOU ALWAYS FUCKING DO THIS.
NOT READ AND SHEEP WHOEVER.
GOD DO YOU EVEN FUCKING CARE ABOUT PLAYING GAMES OR DO YOU FUCKING /IN LIKE "LOLOLOLOL THIS LOOKS FUN ILL JUST FUCK UP THE GAME FOR EVERYONE BY JOINING".

I DONT BUY YOUR BULLSHIT EITHER.
FUCK.
EXCEPT I KNOW BETTER BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DO THIS AS USELESS TOWN TOO.

It'd work if it wern't for the fact that you're scum.

I don't buy any of this Town-Andy anger.

It really looks like Andy's just trying to discredit Kats here without attacking him as a scumspect... and Kats is another of my town reads.
Kat himself really said it best.

I'm not being USELESS.
I'm not being HORMONAL.
I'm IRATE.

And this is bullshit.

I feel that last line is "You got me, but for the wrong reasons, which really makes me pissed" from scum.

That's all you'll get from me~

[Parama]

OMGUS?

He was already on my scumlist, but now he's attacking me so he needs to die first.

Defensive much? Why'd you feel the need to post the game?

Posterity. To prove to morons that I totally do this kinda stuff whenever I'm on fire with my scumreads and I know it.

[Parama]

Man, there's 2 scum on both the Exe and Andy wagons, and no scum on the Adumbro one. I know who I want to lynch d(''d)

[Parama]

Deadline isn't for like 4 more hours btw <_< You hammered about 12 hours too early but at least we got a scum lynch out of it

[Parama]

BTW

I'm already lynched so I have no reason to lie now.

is an outright lie. Scum can totally lie - last minute WIFOM, y'know. Especially since, in almost every case, a scum lynched D1 has buddies (third parties aside, of course, but in this game, well... that's really more likely.)

[Parama]

It happened in my very first mafia game, which is exactly why I only believe what the mod says in terms of alignment. Oh, Pie.

[Parama]

vote: Andrius

He's scum.

[Parama]

hey CooL
Andy's list was from least scummiest to most, if you weren't paying attention
Thanks for at least contributing to a scum lynch though, X's and O's

[Parama]

unvote, vote: Exe

QUICKLYNCHES ON SCUM HELL YEAH

[Parama]

I LOVE YOU GUYS
I REALLY DO

[Parama]

chesskid is still scum too d(''d)

[Parama]

LOL.
Who the hell would kill Katsuki?
We have a retarded mafia out there.

we have an Andrius mafia out there.

vote: Andrius

[Parama]

Go ahead and set up that fakeclaim in advance. Your post screams "I'M A PR B****ES", which is exactly what actual PRs tend not to post.

[Parama]

Despite the fact that you loaf off everywhere... that was more or a less a PR claim, not a breadcrumb.
plumthoughts in a minute.

[Parama]

Reading Plum, she could be mafia, but Andy and CooLDoG at the very least need to die first. I'm assuming a 2-man scumteam for the record, since any larger and the game's balance would be more than questionable. So the two scum we're looking for are probably in that group of 3. If there's not even 1, then I should just stop playing mafia, because that'd be terrible scumhunting.

[Parama]

Not going to waste you guys' time. I'm the last cult member. BUT. There is NOTHING in my role PM that says I cannot be recruited. Which means I can likely be masoned. And we have a mason recruiter still alive. Feel free to lynch me tomorrow if I somehow don't end up a mason. It's not like I'm really a threat anyways.

But I'm not mafia, and there is most certainly a mafia. I'm still thinking 2-player.

CooLDoG just claimed scum anywho. This is EXACTLY how he plays as scum.

unvote, vote: CooLDoG

[Parama]

no, it's just that CooLDoG is mafia. Even more than Andy is.

[Parama]

I probably should feel bad, I agree. My reads this game were crap but now that the scum are claiming scum it hardly matters.

[Parama]

Most games.

[Parama]

I didn't know my cult leader, which is why I accidentally quickhammered him <_<
I wouldn't have known any other members, had they existed. Only how many they were.
I'm rather certain the masons would be set up similar, and that they have no clause in their role PMs saying they are immune to being recruited; ie, masons can likely be culted.

I'm thinking the point of not letting members know each other is to prevent alignment confirmation - if I had known Exe was the recruiter, THEN was masoned, I could out Exe as the recruiter while also being confirmed town. Which is frankly unfair.

Andy, think of it this way: If I AM mafia, then I won't be masoned overnight, but the masons will all know if someone's masoned or not - the number of masons will change (sans a kill on a mason <_<). I CAN be roleconfirmed as cult, by masoning me.

And I am not a threat by myself, am I? I'm a one-man scumteam with no kill. Totally worth lynching when we still have mafia around. Even if I AM mafia like you accuse me of being, there's still another mafia out there, AND I'M FREAKING CONFIRMABLE. Only a moron or a scum would push my lynch today (or tomorrow, since at that point I'll likely be confirmed town).

[Parama]

Also, the rules say "Play to win".
I'm trying to win as town. That's my current wincon; yours is to lynch me and the rest of the town so that mafia can win.

[Parama]

Why would they kill me? At the moment, I'm not town.

[Parama]

You're not reading. Claimed cult can become confirmed town. Mafia cannot~

[Parama]

Because I want to win with town?
I don't "lose" as cult, I just stop being cult.

[Parama]

It can be used as a cop on me, so there goes that point.
And why would you kill me after I'd been masoned? Masoning me increases the town faction by one player, which is 20% larger than it is currently assuming a 2-man scumteam. Pretty big bonus.

[Parama]

The mason recruiter doesn't have to claim. All masons will know whether the amount of masons changed. And they only claim in the scenario where I remain cult, in which case irrelevantness.
AND IT'S NOT A COP INVESTIGATION YOU MORON. IT. CHANGES. ALIGNMENT.

[Parama]

Recruited N1, what other time?
No QT. That's obvious.

Andy, I already told you why I didn't know my recruiter - because my alignment is still subject to change. The masons can probably confirm this is the same for them, except I'd rather not have them claim just for that.

Andy, I'm going to play to a town wincon because there is still a chance I can have a town wincon, except now all the scum are trying to get me lynched.

From now on, I refuse to acknowledge Andrius' or CooLDoG's posts

. Because they're both scum.

[Parama]

I am the lone member of the cult. And there were no new cult members last night - still one.

[Parama]

the "other wagon" here is CooLDoG, and he's scum.

[Parama]

CooLDoG has 3 votes on him FYI. Because he's scum.
And I already voiced my thoughts on Plum.

[Parama]

I said she was scummiest right behind you and CooLDoG, dawg. And everyone else reads as town except ender, who is a flat null.

[Parama]

no no NO stop lynching plum you morons. CooLDoG freaking claimed scum. I think that's worth more than a lynch.

[Parama]

CooLDoG pulled the quickest 180 ever.
Sigh sigh. At least Plum still has "a chance" to flip scum, though I'd say she won't.

[Parama]

OK <3

[Parama]

No I didn't get masonized. Masons be trollin'. Or jerks.

[Parama]

vote: CooL, DawG!

[Parama]

I <3 Nacho

unvote, vote: No Lynch

Whatever helps me win ^.^

[Parama]

I can't kill any masons so ^.^
Thanks for being so nice and stuffs, masons. I appreciate it.

[Parama]

You wanted to kill me D3, jerk :<

[Parama]

chesskid is a troll, yes.

[Parama]

I couldn't recruit, chesskid <_<

[Parama]

lurk sheep lurk baa lurk

[Parama]

Exe, I had two options:
1. Get lynched and lose as cult
2. Claim and get masoned, win as town

Either way, cult loses d(''d)

[Parama]

^scum with Andy

[Parama]

I dunno what you mean by "my meta" but I wasn't the one who got lynched D1 anyways so

[Parama]

I point to my ISOs #26 and #27.

[Parama]

Those were all quotes of stuff I'd said prior. For the most part at least.