Best of the Internet Mafia: Over!

[Sotty7]

Vote: Bamboomancer

Random related stuff

[Sotty7]

I took the CA mentioning of bringing Iammars back to life as a joke so I don't really agree with the wagon as of right now.

A black man stole my vote. I can't vote today..

screw all yall

vote: coron

Unvote, Vote: Dranko20

[Sotty7]

Unvote: Dranko20

no the reason is: elvis_knits' post #98 in which she pointed out the face that Jecht was inconsistant in his support of bandwagon's, CA's point in saying Jecht was shady is basicaly saying "Yeah he did look kinda scummy"

FOS: Crop

for defending stupidness.

FOS: Jecht

for being scummy internet thing.

Vote W!nt3r

Why are you FOS'ing and not voting in a game this size?

In other news I'll be out of town until after the weekend.

[Sotty7]

Back from my trip earlier than expected

I think Winter needs to explain more why he doesn't care if we lynch him. If he doesn't its prolly just best to lynch him.

I agree here

He dies in the lynching scene.

So why come out for all to see as the day killer? If you didn't understand why he was not dead, you should have asked the mod first and not admitted your role. Now you just have a big target on your back, if in fact you are pro town.

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I'm sorry, but as long as we have all these long analysis posts, I'm barely going to be able to keep up in this game for the next few days.

Personally, I think all this analysis is hurting more then it is helping. It's drowning the thread when we don't even have a confirmed innocence yet. It's hard to come to a conclusion about anything when we don't know if the players that were on the recieving end of the wagons are scum or town.

To be honest, I think the “analysis” posts made so far in the game have all brought up good points and make good arguments. Sure we don't know the alignment of people yet but we can always look back on day two to see if any apply. Discouraging analysis, even if it is long to read, is something that does not sit well with me. I understand it's hard to keep up (I just had to catch up myself) but discussion helps the town.

Unvote

I initially voted for W!nt3r because his reluctance to vote early on. In a game this size, throwing a vote onto somebody is a good way of showing your suspicions without having to worry to much about a quick lynch. This struck as even more odd seeing as he had random voted at the start of the game. Since I voted and started the W!nt3r wagon, I am starting to believe that this could just be his play style and he hasn't really done anything else to draw my suspicions. So for now IGMEOY

I'm interested in the discussion that is going on between JechtMurray and inHim. Elvis made some good points about inHim and JechtMurray has picked up that ball and ran with it. I am waiting to see the rest of inHim's post before I think about where to place my vote.

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Unvote, Vote LostProphet

I was almost there to voting him, but this wagon seems like a reason to. Plus his other post have been scummy like none other.

I'd like to see these posts you talk of.

And the game is stalling but that is also due to a lot of people not posting very often. Pooky and Tyfo both only have one post, bigbenwd, Coron and diggy to name a few seemed to have dropped of the face of the earth.

I remember being ready to vote for inHim when I unvoted but I think I need another read though to see about the Ject wagon that has just popped up.

[Sotty7]

Maybe the long analysis post ARE clogging the thread up too much I'm getting confused! I keep mixing up LostProphet and Ject.

I remember being ready to vote for inHim when I unvoted but I think I need another read though to see about the

Ject

lostprophet

wagon that has just popped up.

Fixed

[Sotty7]

A the moment, I see no reason not to believe Lostprophet's claim.

Ject - Do you really want him lynched or are you just jumping on the next wagon to save your own skin?

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Although I have no where near the amount of post you have, vague is one thing I have not been.

Look at this from my point of view. Up until now, you have been the main bandwagon (after the itinal CA one) and now it's like you have jumped right on top of the Lostprophet one and you are intent on shaking it until he's dead. What happened to inHim being scummy? Only after Lostprophet claimed, did you vote him and then your post analysis made it look like you had been voting for him and looking at him all along.

Just struck me as odd.

Looking back you have jumped onto EVERY mini or full bandwagon we've had so far. CA, Dranko, inHim all, expect the W!nt3r one, where you only happened to FOS him. Either your scum and W!nt3r is your partner or your a very eager beaver townie. Right now, I'm not sure which it is.

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That's a bit of a false dilemma there at the end. Had you just said 'Either you are scum or eager town' it would've been better, but by implicating W!nt3r you're making it a bad argument.

I wouldn't say a bad argument, just maybe a hasty one. I still have an odd feeling about you, but that could just be a clash of play styles. You have answered my points well enough though.

The next part of SV's post is a misconstrual, IMHO. SV's making a mountain out of a molehill of a comment by Hez, and then he wants Hez lynched for it.

Vote: StrykkerVerde

Hasn't Strykker asked to be replaced?

[Sotty7]

Alright guys, i hoped it wouldn't come to this but I need to be replaced. My internet has been down for way too long and it does not look like it's coming back up for quite some time. I'll get back onto the site as soon as I have a real steady internet hookup but for right now I don't wanna leave anybody hanging.

Sorry about this guys, i hate to leave a game half done.

[Sotty7]

Pretty sweet

Welcome Dripping Goofball

P.S - I don't find lynching a claimed townie a good idea just because we can't find anything better to do.

Armlx - That's the second time you have said he's scummy with out saying why. Care to say why you find him so suspicious?

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I took it as a joke too and Ject's over reaction seems way over the top.

I can't pin point exact details, but he is scummy. Thats about it..

No way - we're on page 15! There has to something more you can say than that!

Vote Armlx

[Sotty7]

Sorry for the double post

Also notice the excessive use of ...'s and the o_0. Do you honestly,

honestly

think that's any way to fish for information? In my position? I mean, 'I've been on the chopping block for ages' according to a recent post, I really should've been grateful for the chance to just relax for a while.

Again, I'm proving my point again as to why I should just lurk like all these other people. If I'd just ignored that and let someone else make a sarcastic comment instead of me maybe they would've been leapt on instead.

Again, Ject you're very jumpy and it's making me take notice of you. Maybe you

should

try and relax for a while before you dig your own grave. Plus, I believe DrippingGoofball is a she not a he.

I still want to know about other replacements. Why replace Tyfo as the first person?

It's strange, I saw Tyfo post in another game today so maybe he just signed up for to many?

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Is there any possibility of getting a post count? Even without it I am pretty sure more people need to post.

Here is one I just because I have way too much time on my hands. If you ever want to do one Smilax, just scroll down to the bottom of the page and there you can select it to show all the posts by a single person.

Post count

W!nt3r - 48
JechtMurray - 35
Lostprophet - 31
VisMaior - 25
elvis_knits - 24
inHimshallibe - 18
Commodore Amazing - 16
SpamWise - 16
Sotty7 - 14
Armlx – 12
cropcircles - 12
Aureal - 11
Smilax765 - 9
Coron - 9
Dranko20 - 7
DrippingGoofball / Tyfo – 7
HezLucky - 7
Macros - 7
Bamboomancer - 6
Nightfall - 6
nonny - 6
TSAGod - 6
ibaesha - 5
PeaceBringer - 4
StrykkerVerde - 4 (asked to be replaced)
Mastermind of Sin - 3
bigbenwd - 2
diggy - 2
PookyTheMagicalBear - 1
sinister_bunny - 1

I'm not really sure what a post count can tell you scum wise. People argue that scum lurk but if that was truly the case every game would be easy. If the town decides to lynch a lurker, I can't argue with that but it would be effectively the same as a random lynch.

FOS: Sotty7. Lynching a claimed townie is acuallty not bad for play.

We'll just have to agree to disagree here.

[Sotty7]

You make a good point there!

I'm looking forward to what the new people might think about what has happened so far, so welcome to the both of you.

[Sotty7]

Fritzler - O RLY Owl (Cop) - Had his ears blown up and his brains leaked out

I haven't quite finished reading through the thread, but I couldn't help noticing that the killing MO seems to fit LP's claim of Bubb Rubb.

unvote, vote: LostProphet

That's a very good point, something I didn't even think of. I would also be temped to vote LP now...

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Yeah, I know. It degenerated a bit. Even I think I'm the best lynch now.

Unvote, Vote: Lostprophet

.

Note: This is not a gambit. Better luck tomorrow night. I won't be terribly missed, promise.

Voting for himself + a plausible method for his claim to be a killer =

Unvote, Vote: LostProphet

[Sotty7]

Unofficial Vote count!

Lostprophet

14

- ibaesha, Aureal, armlx, TSAGOD, Cropcircles, W!nt3r, Jecht, VisMajor, Cogito Ergo Sum, elvis_Knits, Lostprophet, DrippingGoofball, Spamwise, Sotty7
Jecht

5

- Nightfall, Bamboomancer, CA, inhim
Commodore Amazing

4

- Pooky, PeaceBringer, Smilax, Bigbenwd
TSAGod

1

- Coron
Strykker

1

- HeZLucky
sinister_bunny

1

– Mikeburnfire

7 Not Voting - bethelmark, dranko, roland, sinister_bunny, nonny, Macros, MOS

Feel free to correct anything I might have missed but we now have 14 on LP with 17 to lynch. Normally I do think self voting is bad form, but this game seems to be dragging out to an almost painful point, I can understand were you are coming from LP.

[Sotty7]

I didn't see the problem with it either...am I missing something?

[Sotty7]

Good to see the game back up and running, even better with the death of all those scum types. Still though, it seems that there are lots of groups that can kill, which is slightly daunting to think about.

I have kind of forgotten about what happened yesterday, so I'm off to refresh my memory with a re-read.

[Sotty7]

It seemed pretty clear that Hez had a PR yesterday, so I'm unwilling to vote him just for that. I would like to hear what he has to say though, if he can post game related content at all.

[Sotty7]

I haven't been contributing to this game because I've been sick for the past few days.

Ya downloading bastards.

Am I going to contribute now? Nope. Still sick.

So you've been sick all though January, since the game started? Or just since the game reopened?
If it's the latter then can you tell us if you still have a PR, or if you ever had one in the first place..

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I asked if you were sick since the game started because you have hardly posted day one at all.

Your response suggests that you still do have a PR. That or your just really mean

[Sotty7]

Yeah the fact he just slaps a vote on you Adele is really not helping his case in my eyes

[Sotty7]

My beef's with Hez. I'm waiting on him, but I know he's got a lot on right now. In the meantime,

If my wagon gets big enough I'll be able to point the scum out to you easily.

Right now, it's too likely that my wagon is either concentrated with more town or more scum than the numbers usually provide. I need a bigger wagon on me before I am to do any pointing.

So you need more people to vote for you to contribute best to the town?

You heard him, people. Vote for him! Unless, of course, youre scum and are scared he really

will

peg you...

seriously, though, I do think he's got some explaining to do, but I think it's up to other townies if they feel the same.

I kinda had the feeling that he was making some kind of ability claim as well. So for the time being

Vote HezLucky

I'm not too comfortable voting for CES just yet. My gut is telling me to stay of the wagon right now. I kinda feel the whole thing is being blown out of proportion.

[Sotty7]

Unvote, Vote Rolandofthewhite

Lurkers are evil. Can't believe we didn't notice until now that he has posted at all!

[Sotty7]

With our amount of lurkers, we simply need to move on, we can't have all of them replaced. Suffer not the lurker to live!

Agreed, unless Nightfall....You have someone else in mind?

[Sotty7]

Quit arguing with Hezlucky, unless it leads to him voting for Rolandofthelurkerscum.

Why on earth would I vote for someone who can't defend himself?

It just doesn't make sense.

Some would ask why you would fake a post restriction....

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Quit arguing with Hezlucky, unless it leads to him voting for Rolandofthelurkerscum.

Why on earth would I vote for someone who can't defend himself?

It just doesn't make sense.

Some would ask why you would fake a post restriction....

I'd be bored to death if I didn't.

To be honest, I prefer to lynch a Liar over lynch a lurker.

Unvote, Vote:Hezlucky

[Sotty7]

Well to be honest, Pooky is right here. If we lynch Roland we get no information for tomorrow, so what do we do then? Lynch another lurker? I'd rather bandwagon Hez right now because he misrepresented having a post restriction during day one and because of his semi ability claim here.

Well no duh you can't always tell.

But sometimes you just have to believe in the Hez.

If my wagon gets big enough I'll be able to point the scum out to you easily.

Right now, it's too likely that my wagon is either concentrated with more town or more scum than the numbers usually provide. I need a bigger wagon on me before I am to do any pointing.

If this is true he can prove his worth to the town. So why not test it?

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If we lynch Roland we get no information for tomorrow, so what do we do then?

Unvote if I'm voting, Vote Sotty7

Sounds to me like Sotty already knows Roland's alignment.

Umm no, I was saying that with the way everyone was just piling on the wagon at this point we won't be able to pick anyone off it for having poor reasons to vote. The scum would (or already have) jump on and no one would question it.

Seems someone was trying to put words into my mouth mikey

Ehhh, not quite. If we lynch him and he turns up scum, we can examine the people who derailed his lynch. If we lynch him and he turns up town, we can take a look at the people who pushed for his lynch.

Now that we've got people weighing in on *both* sides of the issue, we may in fact have some direction if we go forward with the lynch.

So

FoS: Sotty7 and Pooky

for claiming that the Roland lynch would give us no information when, in fact, it would give us something to go on.

Actually, this is quite true. If I had kept my trap shut and just sat back and let scum and town alike jump onto Roland then maybe someone else would have tried to derail, or like you said if he turns up town we would look back on who pushed the wagon.

[Sotty7]

But I'm not claiming yet, I want more juice.

And what kind of juice do you want?

I think he means more votes

[Sotty7]

A very rough and quick count puts you on 8 (I think). How many votes do you need to claim?

[Sotty7]

Please, no more votes on Hez until we hear his claim.

Goofball...where are you?

[Sotty7]

OK, I was thinking that Hez's role would lead to him receiving info on players on his wagon from the mod, not him posting his own thoughts, that's my own fault though, for assuming too much. Still there was a lot of what he posted that I happen to agree with, a few players however are slightly higher up in my suspicions than in Hez's post there (Elvis and Mike for example). As for his role claim, there is only one thing that is bugging me

Tamuz - Blue (FBI)

- Shot in the head Night 1

Here is “Blue” for people who haven't checked back, Tamuz. Notice he is also “FBI”. People wondered out loud and Crola later posted this

EDIT: When I said FBI, I meant something more along the lines of psychiatist, you know, the classic search and destroy role.

Which does kinda go along with Hez's role claim, the whole search and destroy thing. Hez, are you just Red? Or is there something else to your role claim like Tamuz's? Or has FBI have some meaning in the Red v Blue thing that I don't know about. (Sorry Nightfall, I hadn't heard about it until just now either)

Hez's seems happy enough offering himself up to be vigged tonight that could mean -
1)He's telling the truth, he has already won
2)He's scum that cannot be killed tonight and maybe even kills anyone who attempts to kill him. (Or some other elaborate trick)
At the moment I am willing to give him the befit of the doubt, as it would seem to much hard work for scum to go though all of this just to

maybe

get us to mis-lynch today.

DG hadn't really entered my radar at all today and Hez's paragraph on her only really made me want to check out her posting habits again for myself, but her reply to what he said was a little extreme. Defensive much? Especially for someone, who at that point, only had one vote on them (casted by Hez himself). After that some people put their vote on her too which has caused her to claim already with only three votes on her (I think) which is crazy to me. It's almost as if she's already given up, thinking that everybody will just take Hez's word for gold. DG – it's more your reaction towards what Hez's has said that has caused me to look your way. I can understand frustration, but this goes a little beyond that and really makes me wonder.

Unvote

[Sotty7]

So tamuz was blue and Hez (red) shot him? I wonder why Blue got an additonal role (Tamuz was FBI) and red didn't. It was a pretty good guess on Hez's part to nail the only red player on night one. Wasn't it?

You meant "to nail the only BLUE player on night one," right?

I wish I had noticed that myself, good observation, Smilax765.

It's in line with the point that I am trying to make, which is that HezLucky

is not telling the whole truth.

But that the truth really is, is anyone's guess.

Hello...I pointed this out earlier, but it was during your melt down so you probably didn't notice

After everything that has been said since Hez's post my gut still thinks DGB is town so for now I'm happy not voting for her after what happened with LP yesterday (just lynching a claimed townie).

Sorry - but YOU ARE SHEEPING. All of you. You are sheeping because until he came up with his "75% scum-o-meter" nonsense,

nobody had much of an eye for me at all.

And if YOU MAKE THE EFFORT of reading his long dribble carefully, you will also see that it's full of holes.

This was the only real thing that DGB said that really struck as wrong. The whole “nobody had much of an eye for me” sounds kinda like scum pouting that they have been found out. To an extent I can understand the temper tantrum, but this just felt wrong to me. If Hez had listed me up at 75% I'd would have been pissed too but a pro active townie should really learn to control their reactions especially if it leads to pages and pages of back and forth over small things.

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Once you vote for yourself, it's pretty much showing that you don't care and/or matter.

I unvoted. Maybe you should, too.

It doesn't matter. It's never worth it.

Never TSA?....Are you sure about that?

Adele is laboring to whip you all into a frenzy to lynch me, and steadfastly refuses to consider my arguments, and the very good points and rational brought up by Sotty and Smilax. This refusal to reason is meaningful, it is not accidental.

I would hardly say Adele is whipping anyone into a frenzy, from what I've read. In fact I happen to agree with a lot of her points against you Goof, I'm just not quiet ready to add my vote. Like CES says, all I have at the moment is my gut and I'm gonna work off that. Your use of the word frenzy certainly seems like you are misrepresenting things though...

If how ever you had commented on Adele's sudden helpfulness in posting the last two unofficial vote counts, then that might be something we agree on. The fact that she is keeping a very close eye on how close DGB is to being lynched is something I have noticed. I do feel that for scum, getting a lynch on DGB (if she is indeed a townie as claimed) would be a relatively easy thing to do, considering the way she has acted to Hez's posts. It almost feels to easy. Maybe I am over thinking things though.

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Once you vote for yourself, it's pretty much showing that you don't care and/or matter.

I unvoted. Maybe you should, too.

It doesn't matter. It's never worth it.

Never TSA?....Are you sure about that?

99%. If you vote for yourself, there isn't any reason to keep you in the game. I cannot think of a reason to do that, unless you want to get votes.

So....what about the time you voted for yourself in mini 249?

....well if Hez has already won, and really does just want to help the town, I would advocate him quoting his role PM. Like CES said, it wouldn't *replace* a lynch. It'd just get him... out of the way, so that we can get a few answers.



How 'bout it, Hez?

I like this idea...

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Firstly – I made a big mistake. I made reference to game that is still ongoing when I asked TSA a question earlier. That's a big no no and I apologize to those concerned. I was coming to rephrase the question but seeing as TSA has already posted answer, I ask a different one instead.

TSA – are you voting for DBG for the soul reason that she voted for herself? Or is there other reasons in there to?

[Sotty7]

To be honest, I feel like we are just going round and round in circles here today. I'll even admit to skimming the last page, just because it's becoming a chore to read all the posts regrading Hez's analysis because it seems as people are just repeating themselves over and over and over.

There is no point forming a wagon on Roland as the mod said he would cut dead weight tonight, so he'll be dealt with. I'm almost at the point I was at this time yesterday, in that putting my vote on a claimed townie just to move the game forward. We still have a few inactives cluttering up the place as well, ibaesha, kain and stark haven't even posted today at all.

Now I'm off to actually read what I skimmed...

[Sotty7]

I really can't see the problem in lynching Hez and have DGB vigged if he turns out to be who he says he is. It would NOT be a wasted lynch and would affectively give the town the same end result. If we did that way round it would eliminate the possibility (however small) that Hez's has a vengeful role that somehow enables a 2 for 1 situation.

The thing about Glork is he has done a pretty neat 180 turn here. He was one of the ones to jump quickly on to the DGB wagon, so just don't know how to take his sudden change of heart. Is it genuine? Or is he scum distancing himself from a possible townie lynch? Or something else completely....who knows for sure? That said, he has raised some real good points and there is a lot of stuff I agree with. This being the quote that hit me the most.

The way I see it, DrippingGoofball is guilty only of failing to express her concerns. An inability to out-logic another player does not equate to being a scumbag.

Another strange thing is that since Glork posted his thoughts about Hez's analysis, Glork has “skyrocketed” on Hez's scum-o-meter. Is this just because he advocates lynching you Hez? Don't you think you would be a noble scarfice for the town. Plus you've already won right? So.... I thought you didn't care.

There isn't a pro-town reason. Of course she wasn't asking that, so that doesn't actually matter. She posted a vote count and noticed discrepancies between people's behaviour and where their vote was. Therefore she asked those people why. It seems logical to me.

Not explicitly. But Sotty, DGb, and I have all found reason to believe that there is a tacit implication, a subtle prodding of sorts. Break down the HezWagon, build up the DGWagon. Remind everyone that DG's pretty close to being done for, and see if impatient, careless, or easily impressionable players will come along for the ride.

I don't find it scummy when players post vote counts, I have done his several times my self in various games with various different alignments. The thing that got to me was just how close together Adele's two counts were, in fact they were less than a day apart. It was like she was keeping a real close eye on who was and was not voting DGB and it was something I found....odd.

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I really can't see the problem in lynching Hez and have DGB vigged if he turns out to be who he says he is.

That is a BS argument because even if Hez is who he says he is does not mean DGB is a liar/scum/should die. Hez is not an investigative role. He does not KNOW if DGB is scum or not. You are forming a relationship between the two where one must be scum and that is not necessarily true.

unvote; vote sotty

Actually no I'm not. I wondering out loud about the possibility that Hez will be able to kill our vig at night, that's completely different and has nothing to do with DGB and Hez BOTH being scum at all.

I do understand this possibility is rather small, but why couldn't it exist? To be honest I'm starting to get really sick of this day, and if DGB she is a townie, maybe she should just submit to a lynch for the good of the town. (ala LP) It seems both sides of the argument are sticking to their guns and we really have got plenty of information to act upon tomorrow.

[Sotty7]

Jeepers OK

I believe Hez's claim
I also believe DGB is a townie
I also think that there is a possibility that Hez hasn't revealed the whole truth, so ideally I would like to lynch Hez and if everything is what he said then I'd be more than happy to follow his post. Even if that mean going against my gut and voting DGB tomorrow (if the vig doesn't kill her)
I feel this big discussion has enabled

most

of the scum to lurk.

Major Lurkers

Bamboomancer
Coron
ibaesha
kain
rolandofthewhite
stark

I have only included the people who haven't posted in the game at all, or those yet to post in day two. I'm starting to wonder just how many people will be culled in the mod kill tonight and just how many of them have useful pro-town roles.
As well as these people there are a dozen others that are lurking though the day today (Crop, CA, Smilax765 to name a few) So I'm getting frustrated and feel like we've hit a brick wall.

Sotty

, are you a bit too eager to carry out your night action? I hope I'm wrong.

Besides, my lynch isn't going to happen. Come on... you can figure it out. My roleclaim is there.

Let us be deadlined if need be. But "sick of this day?" No. You ask a Townie to submit to a lynch? For the good of the Town? How on Earth could this be for the good of the Town?

Maybe I shouldn't have asked DGB to submit to a lynch, but instead directed that question to Hez. Just as of right now I really can't see enough of us that are will to lynch Hez.

[Sotty7]

Vote: Hez

may as well put my money were my mouth is.

Blue/FBI has a bit of a "law-enforcement" and perhaps pro-Town ring to it. I would not be surprised if Red/??? has more of a pro-Mafia ring to it. We are all guessing. That's my guess. I disagree quite strongly that "Red" does not make sense as part of a Mafia group. I think it does make sense. Like you, I believe Hez is Red. But unlike you, I don't believe that's the whole story.

This is my thinking too. Red is often the color mods use in games to denote dead scum, sure there could be nothing in this but what is the harm in finding out?

CES, I don't understand what you mean with:

It appears we have a "I'm sorry for you" and an "OMG WTF?" mafia

Care to elaborate?

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Mastermind of Sin - William Hung (I Feel Sorry For You Mafia)

- had his eyes melted out and the rest of himself blown to bits Night 2

bigbenwd - Tubgirl (OMG WTF Mafia)

- was killed by a super pissed off person. Killed Night 2

Here we have two mafia members already dead both from different groups, the I Feel Sorry For You Mafia and OMG WTF mafia. This is what CES is talking about

Speaking of cults... Hez/Adele/CES/mikeburnfire? Could there be a cult here? It's only an idea but it might explain your recent behavior.

w!nt3r - Cult Recruit

- blown up Night 2

Yes there is a cult as we already have one dead member. I'm not to sure about your claim that CES, Adele and MBF are all members though...

[Sotty7]

Ah CES beat me to the punch ...just

[Sotty7]

CES I agree with your post 1021. I believe Hez is red, and that RED makes no sense being in any mafia group that we know of. I also agree that the SK or cult recruiter would not offer themselves up for vigging or lynching the next day if that doesn't work out.

(here comes the big but)

BUT, I also cannot discount the possibility that Hez being red, will somehow manage to kill our vig tonight.

I really can't see the problem in lynching Hez and have DGB vigged if he turns out to be who he says he is. It would NOT be a wasted lynch and would affectively give the town the same end result. If we did that way round it would eliminate the possibility (however small) that Hez's has a vengeful role that somehow enables a 2 for 1 situation.

[Sotty7]

Any ideas on who?

I personally wouldn't mind lynching armlx. Second on Hez's list of scum, hasn't brothered defending himself, lurked though the day. Not really posted any content. Recently moved his vote from Hez onto DBG after stating he was “sure Hez is not pro town.”. And basically been very vague though out the game.

Unvote, Vote Armlx

[Sotty7]

Armlx won't be culled tonight, he has posted though out the day.

[Sotty7]

I thought she was talking about Adele as DGB has already claimed badger badger badger townie....now I'm confused

[Sotty7]

I too want to know why she never claimed mason before. A lot of what happened today could have been avoided

[Sotty7]

I am

not

going to unvote DGB unless I find someone else more suspicious. She's led us on a ridiculous ride with her repeated, vehement insistence that she was just a plain townie.

How many times did she scream about how she had no way to confirm herself because she was just vanilla? I don't even want to try going back to count.

This is just sheer insanity. Even if it is true, she's shown a dangerous lack of judgement and we may very well be better off without her anyway.

This is VERY true. I'm almost tempted to put LAL into affect....
DGB - Why did you send the town on a crazy goose chase like this?

[Sotty7]

I understand if some of you are angry with DGB or don't like the choice she made not to reveal that she is a mason, but I still think that lynching her is not helpful. I don't think she's the cult recruiter. I could be wrong, I guess. But let's not lynch her just because you don't like the way she played.

I will say that I am angry with the choice DGB made about claiming.

Exactly. That would mean she lied and needs to die.

But I didn't lie.

She repeatedly lied to the town and I still can't think of any pro-town reason she would do that. This new information put DGB in a very bad light and nothing she has really said since it came out has made me want to trust her. As a town I think we need some answers and if we let DGB live, we will forever be wondering about her. I know I will

Unvote, Vote:DGB

[Sotty7]

That's really the point we're all at right now Ibby. Apparently she didn't want to out her partner...so lying to us all was a better thing to do in her eyes

[Sotty7]

As the cult cannot get any bigger, I'm pretty sure that the remaining couple of cultists (assuming they remain in a cult, and don't just disband) are a lower priority now for the town to hit, rather than actual Mafia.

I wonder: if any of you out there were cult and now reverted back to normal, it might be quite good to know.

Sometimes, doesn't the ability to recruit pass down the chain of the cult if the leader is killed? I'm sure I've read games like that.

I'd really like to know why the vig didn't kill Hez last night. What happens if he survives today and tonight? How long we willing let him live?

[Sotty7]

unvote; vote adele

Though I still think these people need to die ASAP:
1)CES
2)Hezlucky
3)MikeBurnFire

I agree with this list

Vote: Adele

[Sotty7]

Hmm? Adele is top of my list but the other three need to die too.
What's wrong with that?

[Sotty7]

He speaks the truth. Elvis knits just outted herself for a player who didn't really deserve to be given the role of mason.

How has she done that?

[Sotty7]

To be fair, given that the mod said that "Badger Badger Badger" was clean in the opening post (or at least that dancing badgers were too obvious to be scum), I'd be annoyed if I was elvis_knits.

I really think you need to read the craziness for yourself

OK looking back, the list thing was a bad idea (and bad play on my part) to agree with. I still have those people high up on my suspicions though, and now I'm more than happy to explain why.

Adele.

Adele is laboring to whip you all into a frenzy to lynch me, and steadfastly refuses to consider my arguments, and the very good points and rational brought up by Sotty and Smilax. This refusal to reason is meaningful, it is not accidental.

I would hardly say Adele is whipping anyone into a frenzy, from what I've read. In fact I happen to agree with a lot of her points against you Goof, I'm just not quiet ready to add my vote. Like CES says, all I have at the moment is my gut and I'm gonna work off that. Your use of the word frenzy certainly seems like you are misrepresenting things though...

If how ever you had commented on Adele's sudden helpfulness in posting the last two unofficial vote counts, then that might be something we agree on. The fact that she is keeping a very close eye on how close DGB is to being lynched is something I have noticed. I do feel that for scum, getting a lynch on DGB (if she is indeed a townie as claimed) would be a relatively easy thing to do, considering the way she has acted to Hez's posts. It almost feels to easy. Maybe I am over thinking things though.

This post sums up my thoughts on Adele and to why I suspect her. I can understand her reaction to DBG, but it was the way she was helpfully pointing everyone towards the DGB wagon that rubbed me the wrong way.

MBF

If we lynch Roland we get no information for tomorrow, so what do we do then?

Unvote if I'm voting, Vote Sotty7

Sounds to me like Sotty already knows Roland's alignment.

Umm no, I was saying that with the way everyone was just piling on the wagon at this point we won't be able to pick anyone off it for having poor reasons to vote. The scum would (or already have) jump on and no one would question it.

Seems someone was trying to put words into my mouth mikey

WAY back near the start of day two I felt MBF completely tried to misrepresent me here. This was during the time we were running a bandwagon against lurker Roland and he unvoted him to vote me for a reason he just seemed to make up on the fly. When I called him out on it, he ingorned me (but later responded to Hez's comment on this post by saying he was just trying to provoke me) so I've been weary of him ever since.
Also he never once voted for Hez. I remember finding that suspicious as the time I thought that Hez had some kind of role ability that enable him to get info from the mod as the scum content of his bandwagon (was I the only one that thought this?) So I became even more suspicious of him when he kept hanging around to question Hez but never voting him like he asked. Since then it's been hard to get a read on him and the only thing that really stuck out was his complete instance at the start of DGB's bandwagon that she should be lynched.

CES is lower down for me than most people, as it's really just a gut feeling that I have with him. I have no hard evidence so if my list was still present, I'd probably cross him off....for now.

Looking back I'm more suspicious of MBF than I am of Adele so

Unvote, Vote: Mikeburnfire

[Sotty7]

Vis...have you just killed our replacement?

[Sotty7]

No. Did I mentioned that I can FLIP OUT again, now that I fulfilled my obligation for killing a townie? So Thok, are you scum?

His whole use of the word townie there bothered me.

FOS: VisMaior

[Sotty7]

Quick post: I've been getting weird vibes from sotty7 all game. I recently got a few scum vibes from Jecht as well. If CropCircles is just posting fodder then we can off him too.

That's all for now! Toodleloo!

Funny how you get these "vibes" after I vote you huh? Talk about timing!
Jokes aside, present your case and I'll try and explain my thoughts at the time

I agree that Hez should be flipped out on

do i have to do anything for this to happen?

Just be sandwich between Vis's posts I believe

[Sotty7]

CES and Crop, who's the thrid, I must have missed it

[Sotty7]

That's what I thought. Hez's hasn't been sandwiched yet as far as I can see.

[Sotty7]

I've been sandwiched?

No I can only see two people that have, but you said

No. But out of the

three

potential flipoutees, I'd say CES is the best choice right now.

And that confused me

[Sotty7]

Seriously, how can you insinuate that Crazy Frog is anywhere near as "OMG WTF" as those shock sites? =/

This is true, some of those sites listed were awful and Crazy frog is no were near as bad. Sure Crazy frog is annoying but isn't that what we said about Bubb Rubb (Lostprophet)? As for MBF's claim I may not have heard of the site before but it seems pretty harmless. Sure it could be a fake claim but I would think it's pretty hard to fake a claim in a game this big

Unvote

I'd be happy with a armlx lynch today as I said yesterday. He's posted just enough during the day to avoid potential replacement and has done nothing but jump on bandwagons.

vote: armlx

[Sotty7]

Name claim sounds fine to me

[Sotty7]

How about armlx starts and picks the next person to claim. That person claims and picks the next person and so on?

[Sotty7]

I'm the stickmen of Xiao Xiao

Adele next

[Sotty7]

mbf claimed zombo.com

cropcircles claimed homestarrunner

So it's TSAGod's turn to claim.

I think we'll need a

Mod Prod

on TSA God, he hasn't posted for a while

[Sotty7]

Hmm, perhaps I am missing something, but how does the spanish inquisition connect to the internet? www.spanish-inquision.com ?

I also don't how it relates and I'm not sure if I buy the one shot roleblocker claim either.

How about we carry on with the claim, I wouldn't mind having CES go next while we wait to hear from TSA again

[Sotty7]

Marguerite Perrin is most known for her appearance on the FOX network reality show Trading Spouses 2005 season premiere. She traded homes with a New Age humanist, Jeanne D'Amico Flisher, from Boxborough, Massachusetts. Many viewers were taken aback by her erratic behavior, vociferous attitude, yelling, unexplained vomiting and continuous proselytization.

During her stay with the exchange family, she attempted to convert them to Christianity, speaking with the three children and the father, Chris Flisher, individually. Later Perrin asked them to visit church with her, which they obligingly did. Perrin later vehemently refused to hear any words from Mr. Flisher on the host family's own beliefs and practices and became upset and confrontational when further questioned, claiming that Chris was "pushing her buttons".

Tried to convert them to Christianity? If she's not in the IFSFU mafia making people vomit themselves to death, then she could be the cross dagger killer.

Unvote Vote:TSAGod

[Sotty7]

That's the only result he got, I think before this pro town one

[Sotty7]

I think he was referring to Stark.

I'm gonna

Vote:Bamboomancer

because I think he is part of the IFSFY Mafia,

I'm gonna join you here, I feel damn sorry for those poor cats, I think this fits

Vote:Bamboomancer

I do, however, agree that Jecht, Adele, and stark have pretty sketchy claims, for the record. I personally have never heard of Limecat or Stickmen of Xiao Xiao either, so Nightfall and Sotty are on my list of questionable claims.

If it helps, I hadn't heard of the stick men either until this game.

[Sotty7]

Here's my link http://www.newgrounds.com/collection/xiaoxiao.html but the stick men can be found in lots of places.

At the moment I agree with Nightfall. Even if it's a joke I feel bad for the cats. My vote is staying for now.

[Sotty7]

FOS: Thok, Sotty7

You explain the vote in your post but not the FOS's so...what's up with that?

^ :goodposting: ^


That's basically how I felt when I said I'd be willing to switch to Nightfall.

Sure...why didn't you SAY that then?

[Sotty7]

I'm also finding myself having to a re-read. I'll get on that and have something up either today or tomorrow

[Sotty7]

Also, I could make an argument that stark's claim (if it is a fake) is more likely to be the (potentially) last OMG WTF mafia then Jecht; both Simultronics and A.S.H refer to parts of the internet that are really old (MUD's or Multiuser Dungeons for Simultronics, Usenet for A.S.H). Neither of them are something a youngster is likely to have heard of unless they were using the internet before like 1998 at the least).

This is a really good point. I'm all for presuring Stark at the moment, he seems to be stalling any which he can when it comes to proving his role and his latest post about just going after one mafia and not the other rings all kinds of warning bells for me.

Unvote, Vote stark

[Sotty7]

Unvote

At the moment it's a toss up between MBF and Adele about were I put my vote. I'm pretty convinced that Stark is scum and if he is still alive tomorrow I'll be voting for him. Still unsure on Ject but I remember being suspicious of him during the first day, he was quite jumpy on a few things.

[Sotty7]

I apologize for not posting over the last few days as I've been busy with work. I'll be back in tomorrow with something helpful...hopefully