Square Enix IV (GAME OVER)

[Bunnylover]

I was going to RVS vote Fate, but in a recent game of my we actually had an RVS lynch in the first 2 pages <_<.

Vote: Reckamonic

POE SCUM WILL HAVE THEIR REVENGE!

[Bunnylover]

Like an accidental one, or someone slipped? I think Fate already has 4 votes or something, for that matter.

I did it because I had a broken breadcrumb, but now I have fixed it into an even stronger breadcrumb.

It was no accident lol.

[Bunnylover]

It takes 10 votes for a hammer BL, so I see your reason to not pressure wagon Fate to be moot. I also note that you didn't question Fate even though you wanted to add pressure there. Either/or would have been sufficent to pull information from the Fate wagon. Why didn't you question pressure Fate? HMMMZ? You wanted to wagon him.

RVS vote =/= questioning nor pressuring Fate

I wanted to vote Fate for the lulz of it. And because he lynched me last game we were in <_<

Except for me I think :3. I think I was the only poe scum you didn't kill v-v. LLD killed me <_<.

@DTM: Fate just softclaimed Heartless. DEATH TO HIM NOW!

[Bunnylover]

I see what MoI is talking about.
lol the reactions were funny.

[Bunnylover]

But Prana jumping on a building bandwagon proclaiming ‘That was easy’ without even stopping to ask why Fate ignoring Vezok was worth noticing?

Scumtastic.

You mean your attempt to get attention off you by saying "hey look at Vezok!"?

Because 3 votes is attention?

Unvote

Vote: PranaDevil

[Bunnylover]

@DTM: MoI's argument on Fate is strange. The more I think about it, the more I'm entitled to believe about it. I mean, normally Fate should have come in here with his caps lock on and yelling something like, "OMFG VEZO IS IN THIS DAMN FREAKING GAME, LYNCHING THIS DAMN BASTARD TO HELL!". I'm more then sure the majority of the people can agree with me on this.
Prana vote was just bad. That was easy? Like really. Its obvious bandwagoning.
Other then what MoI pointed out, no, not yet.

@RBT: When I saw your post, I just lol'd.

[Bunnylover]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bunnylover
No mention in post 49 of Prana's vote, now he's saying it looks like obvious bandwagoning only after Magna points it out.

The DTM-avatar discussion seems like a pointless distraction, so I'm just going to ignore it.

RBT, any reason you didn't claim in your first post but decided to claim just now?

So I can't vote Prana because MoI voted him for bandwagoning?

lol Fate to me seems like a jester at the moment.

"What?! I didn't know that guy was bad!"

@DTM: I looked at the post you mentioned where you point MoI says Fate's was Fate. I've played with MoI twice, and on the game we lost together he tunneled me pretty hard and I got him lynched because he dropped my case with like a snap of his finger. I'm not sure if its Meta MoI that just doesn't multi-task, or what.

@MoI: Was the day kill really or was it fake like the other fake ones <_<.

[Bunnylover]

@Kdub: I didn't ignore it. I'm just not confident. I constantly question myself if my thinking process is right or wrong. So when I saw MoI post, my mind was ease since I knew that I wasn't the only one thinking the same thing.
You'll notice in my play that I don't become bold with my post until I am frustrated or aggravated.

[Bunnylover]

Fate can you enlighten me in why you are attacking people who voted you when you claimed Scum?

In hence sight shouldn't you be attacking those people who didn't vote you?

I just think I'm missing something in that logic :<.

[Bunnylover]

But Fate D:.
When Toog claimed scum in Decon mafia, only 2 or 3 people went, "That isn't serious."
Everyone else went "Herp Durr vote: Toog" without even questioning it or saying is that for real :<.
Reason why is because you don't ignore Scum claims.
Reason I bring this up is because claiming scum gets not only other scum involved in lynching that person for said mislynch but also townies as well who can't play that WIFOM was that a serious claim or not.

The three people you are attacking are 3 people who

DID

vote you.
Zordiak was the first one to vote you after the claim. He actually called you scum.

Dutch One, I mean if he already had his vote on you, I don't see why you claiming scum should matter to him his vote is already their. Although I do agree that his lack of contribution is disturbing.

DTM, I have no comment on with what you posted.

Basically I have no idea what you are doing and if other people do then thats all fine and dandy I'll let them explain it to me x-x.

[Bunnylover]

This is what I was missing:

But you can TELL between people who are voting for GENIUNE reasons and people who are voting for INGENIUNE reasons.

Forgot about that.

IM SORRY, DON'T HIT ME. MY BRAIN IS RATTLE WITH THE GORRAD GAME.
Gotta go to work, Didn't read your entire post, will when I get back.

[Bunnylover]

@Kdub: I didn't ignore it. I'm just not confident. I constantly question myself if my thinking process is right or wrong. So when I saw MoI post, my mind was ease since I knew that I wasn't the only one thinking the same thing.
You'll notice in my play that I don't become bold with my post until I am frustrated or aggravated.

The problem is, playing this way looks a lot like scum trying to make up revisionist excuses to justify their votes, so you'll excuse me if I choose the simpler explanation that you are scum.

Starbuck is the current leader in "most posts with zero relevance" in the game. Just saying.

I understand.
Basically my playstyle is like testing the waters.
Fate I am voting scum, Prana ;D.

[Bunnylover]

DTM is town.

Prana is like in the last game so town. And Iec I don't know.

never never never never never assume DTM is town
see Ocarina of Time

Who to say we didn't know DTM was scum v_v.

[Bunnylover]

Hmmm something tells me to not trust DTM, but I thinks that just my feelings from the past game v_v.
@DTM: What would be the point of MoI dropping what he brought up against Vezo and Fate? Thats the only thing I'm not getting.

Preview Edit:
1) I don't understand what you said, but I don't think its important v_v.
2) D: While I was alive I thought you were scum because you never once attacked me for my obvious sheeping of you. Thought you were going to save me till the end so that I would vote the other person to get rid of the other scum team. OR WAS I. I don't know D:.

@Your Fate Discussion:
1) Yeah, someone thinks that too. I was able to survive in SSBB mafia because I literally said, "Fine then I'll just do what ever Fate does," and that got his vote off of me. I take an intense look at those who buddy up to Fate (in Decon Mafia I was wary of Fate - Spryex - Socio because of their buddy buddy), but had to established if this was meta them or what.

[Bunnylover]

(I think bv's just always kinda quiet tbh.)

This.
Although I disapprove of it.

[Bunnylover]

Frankly I'm a little suspicious of Dutch One town read on me.
Although he is correct in which I'm town, his reasoning and me only been his town read are strange. Frankly with reasoning like that, their should be like 3 to 5 people their.
Possibly trying to make me seem as his buddy?

FOS Zodiark

Prana reads come across a little OMGUS and follow the crowd to me. Although he is providing some of his own reasoning.

[Bunnylover]

Sorry that FOS should be Dutch One.

[Bunnylover]

Knock, knock.

Whose there?

[Bunnylover]

Iec and Fate aren't lovers, he's just acting like a nervous townie to lose votes.

First he votes for himself, so it appeares that he doesn't care.

And now he claims to be lovers. He's just joking

So when Fate does it, it's "acting" to lose votes, but when you do it, it's...?

lol, actually this post made me laugh very hard (not as an insult to you, it's the conclusion that makes me laugh because I would've said the same). Well, you are not very stupid, pretty good analyze. But if I would really use that to lose votes, then that was the most stupid thing I could've done, it would've been a bit to obvious, it was just 2 posts earlier.
No, serious. I want to show you how bad that reasons were, just vote for me, so you can see it yourself. And I'm not afraid you are accusing me from this because that's exactly what I want.

The problem with what your posting and everything is that no one has voted you except for Chrono.
I FOS you'd but nothing else.
So this whole self vote, huge defense wall, over-reaction, isn't sitting well with me.

Unvote; Vote: Dutch One

[Bunnylover]

Bah this is why I hate games with Fate, too much sheeping of him which everyone will just say, "Were allowed to sheep Fate."

Holding off on my vote till I see if Battousai post content.

[Bunnylover]

I'm surprised this game has become slow.
Usually with Fate in a game, the game has some content or post been posted from him which makes other people post as well.
Still waiting for Battousai content post.
Expecting to see Fate pull some kinda crazy move out of his but that makes us all go wtf but ends up working.

[Bunnylover]

Scum: Reckamonic (if DTM is scum and their are no 2 teams he is town), Vezo, Bv130, PranaDevil, Battousai, Starbuck
Town: Kdub, MoI, DTM, Fate, Iecrient, Midnight's Sorrow, Nero Cain, Chronopie, Riceballtail, Katsuki

[Bunnylover]

I LIKE PIE.

[Bunnylover]

giving lists like that is extremely anti-town.

QFT

MY ROLE RELATED INFO WORKS IF YOU DO AS I FUCKING SAY

Yeah... and being as none of us know if you have a role as such, it could all be bullshit. What's more so far this day phase (If you are town) you may as well have gone "hey scums, you need to kill me tonight". As you've announced you have a role that (somehow) requires you to know who everyone else believes is scum or town.

For a start, I call absolute bullshit on any role like that, second you know as well as anyone else that posting a full scum/town list is just letting the scum know just how well they're doing, and helps them much, much more than it helps town (if it even helps town at all, I'd say it doesn't). Thirdly, you're basically saying that everyone in the game should follow you or they're scum.

Fuck that shit.

Thats how Fate plays the god damn game. You follow him, or your dead. You don't believe me, go look at Decon 2 mafia and you'll see who opposed Fate and how quickly those people died.

Omg Scum know how well they are doing!!!! So what? Reads can change like that, faster then lightning striking the ground. One slip up and no matter how many people think your town, you can be lynched. So saying its incredible anti-town to post a Scum/Town list, well I say bullshit. It doesn't help scum, it helps the Vig to know who they should shot, it makes connection because Scum aren't going to put their scum buddies all as town/scum.

THEIR IS NO GOD DAMN ANTI-TOWN SIDE OF DOING WHAT FATE IS ASKING. I AM ONE OF THE FIRST PERSON WHO WILL STAND UP AND CALL FATE ON HIS BULLSHIT ACTIONS IF HE TRIES TO DO SOME BULLSHIT.

This is like a cop coming out and saying, "Who should I investigate?" and everyone saying, "OMFG IM NOT TELLING YOU WHO TO INVESTIGATE BECAUSE THAT WILL BE ANTI-TOWN HURRRR!????????".

This is my first game where I am actually siding with Fate because I'm actually agreeing with him. I find it strange x-x.

[Bunnylover]

So if it doesn't help town, try disproving what I've posting above. I dares you.

It's fucking Mafia 101.

IT FUCKING DOES HELP TOWN IF SOMEONE IS CLAIMING THAT DOING THIS HELP THEM FIND SCUM BASED ON THEIR ROLE.
WHERE DOES THAT NOT MAKE SENSE TO YOU?
IF FATE IS TOWN, HE IS GETTING SOME KIND OF INFORMATION THIS DAY, RIGHT NOW DURING THIS DAY. THIS IS A CLOSED BOOK CASED. EITHER FATE IS DOING SOME KIND OF DUMBASS GAMBIT AS SCUM OR IS TOWN WITH A POWER THAT CAN HELP US.
IF SOMEONE SAYS THEY HAVE A POWER THAT CAN HELP US, BUT THEY NEED OUR HELP, SHOULD WE NOT HELP THEM?
ESPECIALLY IF WE GET INFORMATION

DURING THIS DAY.

[Bunnylover]

HOW does it help scum? It doesn't. It helps town AND let's me use my role effectively to catch multiple scum.

For someone who's been here a year, you're dense as fuck.

How does it help scum? Let me list some ways:

Scum know exactly how well they're blending in (while otherwise they are only guessing based on people's comments. If I only have a slight read on someone I wont necessarily call them out on it, scum would be thinking they're playing well, and slip further because of it. If I announced I felt they were likely scum, they would pull themselves in). So that's point one.

Scum would then also know exactly who the most obv town players are. If this works out to being one of them, then they know exactly who to keep looking extremely pro-town out of their group if there's a need to bus. Point two.

If there's a couple of people causing trouble for scum, but aren't viewed as that "obv town" could also be killed by scum while knowing there's almost no chance of a doc protect (and if it appears there is, then they'll have a nice small list of who likely protected them. Namely those who felt they were town). So there's a third point.

Anyone who shows up as town (and as far as scum are concerned, IS town (they wont know if it's town or opposing scum) will be ignored regarding night kills because it's almost guarenteed the doc would protect them. Meaning scum can look elsewhere and get a free kill in. Without the lists the scum might not be entirely sure, and would target the player, meaning scum lose a kill. Point four.

That's merely off the top of my head. Those are some fucking important things for scum to know, I see absolutely fuck all that would help town though, beyond your "but my wole wud be gud!" Which is bullshit in the first place.

The fact I'm having to fucking TEACH YOU THIS FATE is fucking ridiculous. You're going to play the fucking "dur, I don't know how it's anti-town to reveal full lists, dur!" card despite being here longer than me (albiet only be a week), and think you wont get called on it? Fuck that shit. Either you're a complete plank who needs to go relearn the basics, or you know full well how it's anti-town and are pretending to be a dumb fuck and were hoping you wouldn't get called on it.

You're scum who is attempting to pull the wool over the town's eyes by bullshitting about a role.

1) It doesn't matter how well scum blend in. Actually scum knowing they are blending is actually great for us. Scum have to play safe because they don't know what everyone thinks of them (do they think I'm scum or town). But the moment you find out the majority of the town thinks your town, your gameplay begins to change.
Have you ever been in a game where someone got Confirmed town (like they died and were rebirth)? You will notice their gameplay is not the same as previous. Reason why? Because they are confirmed. It doesn't matter what they say, they aren't going to be lynched. Its the same logic basically.

I gotta go eat, so I'll get to your other points tomrrow.

[Bunnylover]

or later tonight.

[Bunnylover]

Fate: I don't know what you want... I gave you a scum list. I have no town reads so everyone goes in the scum list (but I point out who I find actually scummy and not really null).

PranaDevil- Ok, you refuse to post your list. Why not try scumhunting instead of fighting Fate with mafia theory and logic. If Fate is scum, then he should have a scumpartner. Why not try and find him/her?

Also I'm noticing people posting, but ignoring what I brought up about Vezok. This question is to everyone who hasn't answered (not Fate/Prana/MoI). Why did you ignore Vezok's claim of VT and MoI's fake daykill?

You realize when you play with Vez, having him be daykill, him claiming VT, is all blah. He's not a player that you want to see in the end game. If a person claims VT, oh well, yes its a townie dead, but it wasn't a power role.
MoI Shooting (faking) Vez was nothing strange. MoI made a connection between Fate and Vezo (kinda), so its not like anyone was shocked by the fact.

Basically because it was Vezo, we all ignore it.

[Bunnylover]

Wait Fate, if they called themselves town, wouldn't that mean they are lieing?
Or does your power fail to do that?

[Bunnylover]

There are restrictions, like I said I couldn't make everyone say "I am town" and catch them that way, but if they lie about their BUDDIES I coulda caught them. Also it doesn't work on fakeclaims, as Kise provided fakeclaims count as the "truth"

So how does this affect your read on Prana and Batt who are likely in the same discussing how to avoid my role?

Also very interested in Pranas next post.

I've been reading Prana as scum the first moment he said it was anti-town to do what you ask.
Batt, not too sure about. He's not outright refusing it, and unlike other people I can see him putting himself as the only town read since he did replace in.
I would lynch Prana > Batt, but probably still lynch Batt.

Now that Batt just made that post, and still have not posted his list, I would say he scum.
Their is now no reason for anyone to post their list (not like their was any reason before).

PREVIEW EDIT:
HOW THE FUCK IS THIS WASTING TIME?
HUH?
IF FATE DIDN'T COME IN HERE WITH THIS WE WOULD STILL BE ON PAGE 10 GOING, "DUH.......I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO DUH............"
FATE WANTS TO USE HIS GOD DAMN POWERS, AND THEIR IS NO REASON FOR YOU NOT TO COMPLY.

WHAT HAVE YA'LL DONE TO SCUMHUNT? FATE IS FUCKING SCUM HUNT, BUT HE CAN'T COMPLETE THIS GOD DAMN SCUMHUNT BECAUSE THE SCUM AREN'T COMPLYING WITH HIM, BECAUSE THEY ARE SCARED OF FATE.

[Bunnylover]

Batt, what caused all this discussion?
I'll tell you what, me telling Fate to get off his ass and do some crazy ass scumhunting because I know how Fate works and although I usually disproves of his method, it does have result.
We had a lynch yesterday, one of the reason that happened was due to Fate.
"Maybe we can pick up where we left off"
Their was about 3 days of no one posting. So how exactly were we expected to pick up where we left off?

Bv vote makes me laugh. Lurkers will lurk. Please just go back to lurking, or actually provide reason for your vote on me.
Since I played that Secret Invasion game with you, you will go back to lurking.

Fate, your a bad influence on me <_<.

Also Batt, couldn't you have just ignored Fate and done your scum hunting? Just because a person is trying to do something, doesn't mean you drop everything your doing and focus on that. That means you could have done scumhunting, but instead you choice to focus on what Fate was doing, the exact same thing Prana did.
Fate is not wasting anyone time. If you disagree with him, fine. You can disagree with hiim, but don't blame him for wasting your time, blame yourself for not been able to multi-task.

Vote: Prana

[Bunnylover]

Fine. Have this then:

I know, as 100% fact, that Fate is not the same alignment as me.

Do the list.
Town: Fate/Prana
Scum: Fate/Prana
If your town, put Fate as scum.
If you want to tell the truth, put yourself as Scum.

Doing it the way your doing it isn't helpful.
Just make the god damn list so we can either lynch gambiting Fate which their will be much rejoicing or we lynch actual scum.

[Bunnylover]

@Chrono: I'm pretty sure I didn't leave out anyone in my list. Looking at Reck list, yeah he left out people (I am one of them).

@All: Fate if you aren't lying about your role, then I have nothing to fear. If you believe I am scum with Reck + MS/RBT, then your power should say that I am lieing about my list. I know I'm not lieing about anything, because I don't know anyone alignment.
But, if you were to choice between me and Reck to lynch, who would you choice first?
On the people I am sure about I would lower my list to this:
Scum: Reck (Flip of DTM could change this), Prana, Vezo, Batt
Town: Fate, Kdub, DTM,
The rest of the list was just, "Well I don't find this guys scum/scummy so I guess town."

[Bunnylover]

But, if you were to choice between me and Reck to lynch, who would you choice first?

Uh, where's my vote at? You're both scum, but Reck NEEDS to did first.

Also thanks for confirming that you are indeed scum to anyone that had doubts. Your reaction to my claim is "if youre not lying I haz nothing to fear" and not "ZOMG FATE YOU ARE LYING! IM NOT SCUM WITH ANYONE ON MY TOWN LISTZ1!?!!?? FATE IS GAMBIT! FATE IS DIEDIEDIE!" even though you SAID you would be the first to do the latter.


Get lynched.

Help me by bussing Reck though for style points

Your only looking at this from a scum point of view and not a town point of view, which is expected since you are scumhunting.
You yourself said that if a person is town your lie detector wouldn't do nothing to them (or something like this) since they do not know who are town and who are scum other then themselves, after I posted my list. So either I knew about your role beforehand and did was scum would do knowing your role, or I didn't know about your role and made my list on who I thought were Scum/Town/Don't have scum read therefore I put them as town. If your power doesn't make a difference between a town scum/town list and a scum town/scum list, it would be impossible for you to find scum as you are trying to do with that role.
But I am in favor of Reck been lynched. I do feel that Reck killed DTM because of DTM play in OoT mafia. It wouldn't be that strange of connection in my sense.

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My god. TELL ME everyone else just saw what I saw.

Bunny just friggin CLAIMED scumbuddies with Reck, and told us WHY Reck wanted a DTM kill last night in their QT.


HOLY FUCK LETS GET THIS GAME GOING.

o.o No. God no.
The reason I believe DTM is dead is because Reck killed him. The only reason I can think of that DTM died is because someone from the previous game (OoT mafia) who is in this game killed him. They know how well DTM can play, and therefore didn't want him to be in this game.
The only people in the game who could be possible of that is: Me, Fate, Reck, Vezo, Kat.
I eliminated myself from the list because I know am town.
Eliminated Fate because I don't feel you would want revenge on DTM since he actually saved you. Wouldn't make sense for you to kill him.
Eliminated Kat because.........well to be honest I don't think Kat had a brain during OoT so she probably doesn't remember anything from the game.
That left Reck and Vezo. Vezo is too much of a VI to be this devious.
That left Reck.
Process of Elimination Fate. Common tool used.

Now please stop . You are trying to twist my words into something I am not saying. I find it odd that you haven't voted for either me or Reck, even though you've already said that you wanted one of us lynched before the other.
Don't tell me your playing the same way you played in Decon mafia, afraid of having townies mislynches on your hand, so your trying to see who people vote over Me or Reck so you can say you weren't at the "head" of the wagon, but did help it.

Vote: Reck

If I can kill one scum before I die, fine by me.

[Bunnylover]

I apologize Fate, I didn't see your vote v_v.
I know your proud of it. But frankly I saw nervousness in the lynch of me. Why, I don't know, but you gave me like 10 chances to get out of my lynches even though you were saying I am 100% scum. Made no sense for a townie to do that on a person who was 100% scum. But I'm not going to repeat what I've already said.

But to be honest, I never saw your vote or this post:

Heh.

These are some pretty juice results I got here.

Bunny, why are you lying about your buddies being town?

/stare

What result did you get from me?
I haven't lied about anything. I posted who I believe is scum, and who I believe is Town/Don't have a scum read.
If I have known about that post earlier I would have called BullShit on your claim earlier. Your truly believing this gambit is going to work? Fate pretends to have a power like this, Fate sacrifices one of his scum buddies (Reck), Fate gets a mislynch on a town player (me), Fate then dies.
I frankly don't believe that because its a stupid gambit just to get one mislynch on a player who is eventually going to get himself lynch because he's stupid and a VI.
Since claiming would be inevitable, I am a VT, name is Wanderer, from Children of Mana and I love my fucking character <3.

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So Fate who did you use your power on, because frankly I am confused at the moment.
Can you explain how your full power works, because the way you've already explained (from my understanding and your telling the truth) that I should have been skipped over since I know no ones alignment.

Edit: <_< I don't have enough games with you to know when your fake guiltying or real guiltying.

[Bunnylover]

Unvote
Vote: Bunny

Reaction to failing lie detector was not a town reaction. Town would have reacted as if Fate was lying and calling for his lynch. Scum would try to convince Fate that they are town.

I'm still not even sure Fate has a role, he's lied so much that I much prefer my own reads than basing it on him.

<_< The reason I didn't call Fate lieing about me is because I didn't see that Fate had lied about me until he said he vote Reck on this page.
I missed his 2 post where he said me and Reck lied and where he voted.
When I noticed them, I called BS.

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Prana your an idiot.
Just make the list.
Its not that god damn hard.
You think Fate is scum then put Fate in the scum section. Saying were not the same alignement is fucking stupid. We don't know Fate alignment nor your alignment, meaning nothing going to happen if he used the ability on you.
If you do it like your doing this is the results we can get:
1) Fate says its a true, so we have to see which one of you is Scum/Town, or since you believe their is 2 teams, it could be that both of you are Scum.
2) Fate says its a lie, we have to decided if you two are on the same scum team or town team.
If you do the actually list, everything is fine.

Your stubbornness is stupid. God damnit, we should have lynched you the first day.

Fate when should we lynch MS?

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<_< The reason I didn't call Fate lieing about me is because I didn't see that Fate had lied about me until he said he vote Reck on this page.
I missed his 2 post where he said me and Reck lied and where he voted.
When I noticed them, I called BS.

Caught scum in a lie!

Post 464, Bunny's first post after Fate's "result" post.

@All: Fate if you aren't lying about your role, then I have nothing to fear.

If you believe I am scum with Reck

+ MS/RBT, then your power should say that I am lieing about my list. I know I'm not lieing about anything, because I don't know anyone alignment.

But, if you were to choice between me and Reck to lynch

, who would you choice first?
On the people I am sure about I would lower my list to this:
Scum: Reck (Flip of DTM could change this), Prana, Vezo, Batt
Town: Fate, Kdub, DTM,
The rest of the list was just, "Well I don't find this guys scum/scummy so I guess town."

You did read Fate calling you scum and you REACTED TO IT in this post.

Post 463 is what I was reacting to.
Well actually I was reacting to Post 461 of Chronopie (which is why I said @Chrono then @all).
If their are post I missed, I usually answer in chronological order. I missed Fate vote and result post which is why I started with Chronopie.
Why are you so hell bent on trying to scum hunt on me?

@Prana: Are you just ignoring the post I'm posting?
We don't know your alignment or Fate alignment.
So if you say Me (prana) and Fate are different alignement that could mean:
If a Lie:
Town - Town
Scum - Scum
If its true:
Town - Scum
Scum - Town
Scum 1 - Scum 2 (since both scum team have to kill each other to win, they are not of the same alignment)

Do you see how doing it the way your doing is stupid now?
It doesn't help, just do the list. Why is that so hard? Afraid to put some of your scum buddies in Town/Scum list?

Also this is how Fate plays. He knows he going to get Night Kill, so why not go out taking the whole scum team with him?

Im getting tired of this "list thing is anti-town" bullshit.
People ask other people for their scum reads and town reads.
How is this in different?
Because everyone is doing it?
Everyone already does this.
Prana you have no right to talk about who is scum or town. Your been very anti-town. This could be a game breaking power, and your not going with it because you know its a game breaking power and you know your'll be caught.

[Bunnylover]

._. Thank you Kdub.
Its as simple as Kdub put it.

[Bunnylover]

KAT- Because you arent really paying attention, are you? I think you get distracted by the caps lock. Maybe this will reach you:

1) WE ARE EITHER VOTING RECK OR FATE TODAY.
2) BUNNY IS SCUM FOR LIEING AND REACTIONS TO BEING CALLED A LIAR BY FATE
3) PRANA WILL NOT BE LYNCHED FOR REFUSING TO POST A LIST BECAUSE HE DOESN'T NEED TO ANYMORE. FATE IS NOT GOING TO BE AROUND TO D4.

See but thats not the reason Prana is not posting his list.
Prana is going on and on about how its anti-town, not how its pointless now.
I call Fate lie on me BS when I see it, and yet still been called a scum.
Let me ask you: If I didn't know that Fate had voted Reck, how would I have known Fate used his powers? If you read my post, you can see that I'm looking at the list Chrono posted between me and Reck lists.

@Fate: My reading skills are shit

@Prana:
Prana is not the same alignment as Fate.
If this comes up False.
That means if Fate is town, You are town.
If Fate is Scum, you are scum.
How do you get that your town regardless of Fate alignment? If it comes up false, that means you two are the same alignment, which means either both of you are Town or Scum. Not you can be town in both situation and Fate alignment change.
If this comes up true.
Then either its:
Fate Town - You Scum
Fate Scum - You town
Fate Scum on team 1 - You scum on team 2.
Thats simple.
If Fate is scum, then he just sacrificed one of his scum buddy to prove his fake ability to work. Which means your vote should be on Reck. That also means that the opposing scum team (since their are two) will shot Fate in fear of his fake power, which result in another scum dead.
So where is the logic in not pretending to go with this?

[Bunnylover]

I see no point in Reck not already claiming since Fate has a lie on him.

[Bunnylover]

@Batt: I believe that I was trying to figure out how Fate powers worked in that post.

@Prana: I kinda already said what your claiming your calling "First".
The two possiblities of it coming up false lies with:
You are town and Fate is Scum
You are Scum 1 and Fate is Scum 2.
I mean why won't you do the list? The list would end all this debate. If you have nothing to fear, then just do the list.

[Bunnylover]

@Prana: Regardless if Fate is town or scum, for him to survive he has to sacrifice his scum buddies to prove his role. Eventually Fate going to get in that situation where he no longer have scum buddies and kills an innocent which results in his death.
Your getting ahead of yourself with calling Fate scum. We need Fate alive so we can kill his buddies easily then just regular scum hunting.
This is all assuming that Fate is scum I mind you.

[Bunnylover]

Bah?

[Bunnylover]

2 freaking scum we lost to ._.. JUST TWO OF THEM!

Actually Fate, I would've caught Reck D:.
Obvious Reck kill DTM

Why did Town decide to leave a Hated person alive when we knew that it would take just one person to lynch him in LYLO? That is why we lost.

THE ONE THING I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY THE FUCK WAS I KILLED? WHO THE HELL KILLED ME? WHY WOULD YOU KILL ME? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HEY ALL OF YOU ATTACKING FATE FOR LYING AND SHIT LIKE THAT, HE DIDN'T FUCKING LIE. HE HAD AN ABILITY THAT WAS LIKE A LIE DETECTOR. DON'T BLAME THE LOST ON HIM. HE DID CATCH ONE SCUM WHILE EVERYONE ELSE WAS, "HURR DURR YOU BE SCUMZ DURR."

That what I didn't like about the game (still love it but like really), scum had multiple kills .

[Bunnylover]

But Fate was the one who got scum lynched.
How can it be Fate fault for costing town the game if he did his job as town to catch scum?

And yeah I forgot it was like 7 people left, which resulted in LYLO .