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Post Post #3974 (isolation #200) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:59 pm

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I am dying according to Benmage. On Page 157. Must now drunkread p158-9 whoooooooopa
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Post Post #3975 (isolation #201) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:07 pm

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I DID NOT WARD YOU BENMAGE YOU IDIOT

I FUCKING STALKED YOU AND FAILED

I WAS BEEFING ABOUT IT YESTERDAY AND WHEN YOU CLEARED IT UP SIAD OKAY LETS GO AND FUCKING STALKED YOU

I HATE FUCKING LARGE GAMES GGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHH

Oh yeah so kill me if you want but I think you shouldnt BECAUSE I'M A FUCKING INVESTIGATOR

I tried to doi what BENMAGE SAID but still he thinks IM CULT WTF?!

And oh yeah also someone said something AND I CANT REMEMBER

Something about uh
WHAT?!

OH YEAH

CANT WE PUT EVERYONE ARTIFICIALLY AT L-2 and then that person L-1s themselves to check FOR SUICIDLA?!
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Post Post #3977 (isolation #202) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:18 pm

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PLZ CUDDIL

I LIEK CUDDILS

I AM NOT LETTING BEMAGE GET AWAY WIT HIT HE SAID STALK ME AND I DID NAD NOW HE WANTS ME DEAD WAT?!

IF HE IS CULT (he is not) I WILL BE THE ONLT ONE TO SAY IT EVER!!! GRRR!!
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Post Post #3979 (isolation #203) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:27 pm

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I STALKED BENMAGE LIKE HE ASKED

And SEACORE AND ICE?!?!??!! stalked me.


I am dsad. :(
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Post Post #3980 (isolation #204) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:39 pm

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I'd rather test Ice. Get Ice to murder me if anyone. He's less likely town than Seacore. Esp. with his "Oh no I should have stalked Andy instead" bull.
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Post Post #3982 (isolation #205) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:45 pm

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xvart can still go murdererererer. Just saying. Could be lying about his stalk target :(
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Post Post #3985 (isolation #206) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:49 pm

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<3 Benmage is so evidently town. I just wish he didn't have a boner about me finding him suspect D1/D2.
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Post Post #3987 (isolation #207) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:57 pm

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I'm okay with Iec doing it because I hope he's scum and will FAIL and so we keep ME INVESTIGATOR in the game. Btw shall I reveal my equips? If I'd known I was getting murdered I'd have kept both of them, as it stands I've destroyed one of them :(
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Post Post #3991 (isolation #208) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:23 pm

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<3 we can always be friends I am still as town as then I have maintained my style of disproving SpyreX and being against Ben, but the way Ben turned out has made me look like a fool

SEACORE I figured when the bastion of light VP BALTARD said I was not worthy of being on there than it was good reason to expect that I'd be safe. I did buck a little when Ben put me on there but assumed folks would think it was mostly BenmageOMGUS and not really stalk me (no one did the night before last)

Shall I claim my actions or what?
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Post Post #3992 (isolation #209) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:24 pm

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I AM A SAD LEMON

I have so much more to give. :(
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Post Post #3994 (isolation #210) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:28 pm

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Okay.

N1: Searched FORENSIC TOOLS
N2: Searched RES KIT
N3: Res'd VPB
N4: Res'd VPB
N5: Robbed grave
N6: Stalked Benmage

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Post Post #3995 (isolation #211) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:29 pm

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I will die and come up town. I promise. I am sad to be out of the game. But lynch whoever. Nico today. Watch plum.
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Post Post #3998 (isolation #212) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:56 pm

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Well you don't get it for killing me. You get it when someone humps my corpse and reveals me as town.
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Post Post #3999 (isolation #213) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:01 pm

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AurorusVox wrote:CANT WE PUT EVERYONE ARTIFICIALLY AT L-2 and then that person L-1s themselves to check FOR SUICIDLA?!
Don't ignore me because im drunkposting

wouldnt this work?

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Post Post #4001 (isolation #214) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:26 pm

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A nightmare, but worth it? Y/N?
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Post Post #4002 (isolation #215) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:26 pm

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^To add to this, notice that BabySpice took Suicidal. Presumably he discussed his insanities with the cult. I think they could all have potentially garnered a hankering for suicide.
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Post Post #4005 (isolation #216) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:39 pm

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Ben: its my death. I think Seacore is town. I think he's more likely town than Iec. I'd FAR rather Iec to stalk (because he has higher chance of failing and thus being revealed as scum pew pew pew)
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Post Post #4010 (isolation #217) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:45 pm

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Actually how about we all agree I'm town or someone res me that'd be cool?

T~T

@Seacore: you could be relegated to item-based activities and try to not get any more insanities if that's what you're worried about. But in my world that'd be from tonight onwards with NO MURDERING OF AURORUSVOX taking place. :(

@Ben: Trust you like when you said STALK ME PLOXX and so far I'm the only fucker who did it and yet you still want me dead? I feel betrayed!!
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Post Post #4014 (isolation #218) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:51 pm

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I WANT TO STAY ALIVE QQ

Okay for the good of the town

I sign my death warrant
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Post Post #4042 (isolation #219) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:54 pm

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Xvart. Any reason you took it from "only the following 8 people vote for Kunk" --> "only the following 6 people vote for Kunk"?

What happened to poor old 7?

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TNM: Claim your target. If cult want to res and ritual them then at least YOU'RE picking their NK (on a presumably scummy player). And soaking a res kit. And we might still lynch you anyway tomorrow in that scenario, but its better you out now if you're town. Scum will very likely know who you stalked thanks to noise claims. Only scum motivations are served by not claiming. Especially when asked point-blank.

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Post Post #4044 (isolation #220) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:36 am

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Since you have to get all the way to L-1, I don't think there's another way. We should be able to organise it with just the active players since it needs to be a little under half the players in-game, and I think it'd be useful to start asap to trim scum ranks sooner if we can. But I get that it'll be awfully hard. Probably doing it alphabetically would work, like down from the top. Nominate however many active players and suck it up and away we go...And do it like whoever proposed the plan in that other post. That was awesome. Names and L- numbers.
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Post Post #4047 (isolation #221) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:54 am

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TNM:

We've gone over this a thousand times so dont try to say we're not coming up with anything ourselves.

First let me clear this up: If you murder and cult Ritual, it will say they were murdered UNLESS the cult resuscitate them in which case it will say they were ritualised.

Now onto why you need to claim your target: it doesn't matter for Cult whether you out your target or not. They will be able to tell who heard noises that wasn't their doing, and they will cross-reference that with people who claimed to have caused those noises. Even if they do not get a definitive answer, they will still be able to narrow it down and chances are they'll know who you're targetting. So if you don't out it, they'll PROBABLY be able to res the target if they want to, regardless. If it's one of them, they'll know they heard a noise and res themselves anyway.

Hiding your stalk target from TOWN, on the other hand, helps you (as scum) keep your options open and we're not the trusting type.

---

Also, Xvart should rob a grave tonight. Just in case he's wifoming us about stalking Ben (I know he COULDN'T stalk Ben since Ben was warded - what I mean is what if he stalked someone else). Just to be on the supercautiousrabbitbabyside.

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ALSO also, just thought, if no one else claims they were murdered last night, that gives Seacore proskills townpoints amirite? So isn't him getting confirmed on me a waste when we can get Iec confirmed on me (or outed) and keep Seacore very-probable clear (assuming there are no other attempted-murder claims)

My thought process goes further thusly: normally the order of claimed stalks doesn't matter due to noise hearing revealing who got stalked, but cult wouldn't know I was stalked though noise last night since they passed me a fetish and I'd have heard a noise anyway. So Seacore fakeclaiming a stalk on me (first) would be VERY risky, esp. considering no one claimed to stalk me before so he could have outed himself like a motherfucker. Put that on top of his attempted murder claim, and bam. Also Iec's reasons sound like he was preparing to back down killing me because "whoops I made a mistake guess I shouldn't have stalked you then <3"
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Post Post #4049 (isolation #222) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:08 am

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So if your murder "doesn't work" you won't protest your imminent lynching?
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Post Post #4053 (isolation #223) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:33 am

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TNM: lolol TNM I'm scum now because I want you to out your stalk target? SCUM WILL KNOW WHO YOU STALKED ANYWAY.

I presume VPB is also scum then? And Benmage too? Owait.
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Post Post #4064 (isolation #224) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:58 am

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^That's a fair point but it only works if he's actually stalked a townie. If he stalks a cultist, they'll have heard an unexplained noise, and then that'll tip them off that they're the target. If he tells us his target and that target does not die, we could have a SpyreX situation again.

The worst thing to happen would be him stubbornly not reveal his target, and mafia to res his target and kill him in the same night. If his target does not die we at least need to know who the target was. If he reveals the target today we don't have to waste res kits ensuring he survives to tomorrow. If he doesn't, and gets killed tonight, and flips town...we'll be gutted we didn't know who got res'd by cult. In fact, thinking of that, if he doesn't reveal his target, we may even have to only allow sanctioned rezzes, in case his kill gets intercepted by a townie res kit. I mean, come on. Which is better? Him NOT revealing would actually require MORE night action directing (double res on TNM, no other rezzes) than if he did reveal it :\
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Post Post #4077 (isolation #225) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:17 am

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Nefarious things. Like not hearing noises. Hmm. Sounds too good to be true.
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Post Post #4084 (isolation #226) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:51 am

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I was just sitting there nicely rezzing until Benmage hated me :(
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Post Post #4088 (isolation #227) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:56 am

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<3 Andy we shall cuddle in the graveyard QT and if you're cult we'll put our differences aside and it'll be like a poster for scumial equality or something.
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Post Post #4093 (isolation #228) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:14 pm

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Seacore did you see my reasoned argument for why Iec should murder me, not you? ._." It had to do with who claimed first, but NOT in a stupid way :D
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Post Post #4095 (isolation #229) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:19 pm

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Andy, why do you think I'm here?

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Post Post #4098 (isolation #230) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:38 pm

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<3 skills.
Hey Iec, you hear that?


As for coinflip rez kit; sure thing. I will die clutching a pair of electric paddles in the hope that somewhere, somehow...my spirit will live on.

Unless Iec is cult in which case PEW PEW PEW.
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Post Post #4100 (isolation #231) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:01 pm

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I'd watch Plum swing but only if TNM reveals his stalk target.
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Post Post #4109 (isolation #232) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:20 pm

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I think it's just die or die now. Like Ben says, he ignores the PEW PEW PEW dead TNM non-revealed cult-targeted murder (which should be one of his greatest concerns if he's town)

Trilo, also looking forwards to details.
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Post Post #4111 (isolation #233) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:24 pm

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AurorusVox wrote:ALSO also, just thought, if no one else claims they were murdered last night, that gives Seacore proskills townpoints amirite? So isn't him getting confirmed on me a waste when we can get Iec confirmed on me (or outed) and keep Seacore very-probable clear (assuming there are no other attempted-murder claims)

My thought process goes further thusly: normally the order of claimed stalks doesn't matter due to noise hearing revealing who got stalked, but cult wouldn't know I was stalked though noise last night since they passed me a fetish and I'd have heard a noise anyway. So Seacore fakeclaiming a stalk on me (first) would be VERY risky, esp. considering no one claimed to stalk me before so he could have outed himself like a motherfucker. Put that on top of his attempted murder claim, and bam. Also Iec's reasons sound like he was preparing to back down killing me because "whoops I made a mistake guess I shouldn't have stalked you then <3"
Benmage, please respond to this. This is a fresh(tm) argument.
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Post Post #4123 (isolation #234) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:12 pm

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totallynotmafia wrote:
IF I WAS CULT, THERE WOULD BE NO WAY I CAN CONFIRM MYSELF BECAUSE I WOULD BE INCAPABLE OF COMMITTING A MURDER, SO IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHETHER YOU KNOW MY TARGET OR NOT.
IF YOU ARE TOWN AND YOU GET KILLED AND CULT SUCCESSFULLY SAVE YOUR TARGET

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Post Post #4128 (isolation #235) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:23 pm

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Do we have our plans in place?

IEC ----> kills ----> Vox ----> Res -----> Iec/Seacore

VPB ----> kills ----> Andrius ----> Res -----> ???

Ben ----> robs ----> TNM
(I guess since there's only one grave to rob we can't shut xvart down even if we wanted to)

And everyone else do the happy dance?
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Post Post #4145 (isolation #236) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:23 am

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TNM you ARE being selfish. A one-for-one trade is fantastic for town. If you get mislynched your target gets lynched later along with you. THAT IS GOODTHINGS.
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Post Post #4149 (isolation #237) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:44 am

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SEE.

I'd have Rez'd VP tonight if I hadn't been getting killedkilled. And then all sorts of kerflooey would have occurred.



Option: No one (town) rez VPB. Hito kills Andy instead since we don't need the dead cleared.


A) VPB survives -----> claims if he was murder targetted -----> if YES, clear TNM*
------------------------------------------------------------> if NO, lynch TNM -----> if TNM flips town, lynch VPB


B) VPB is murdered --> clear TNM


C) VPB is ritual'd ----> lynch TNM



Efficient but upsetting plan, right?
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Post Post #4152 (isolation #238) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:09 am

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I think TNM picked VBP to gambit that people would say "OH NOEZ DON'T GO THROUGH WITH YOUR STALK! WE <3 VPBOBVTOWN"

Regarding Option 2: although I'd love to kill off TNM over VPB, it's probably more useful from a catching scum/clearing town multi-perspective to let him go through with his stalk. The only legit reason to lynch TNM today is if we think he's cult. And if he's cult it'll fail anyway. Plus there's always the chance that TNM is obvscum town, and VPB is obvtown scum.
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Post Post #4155 (isolation #239) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:06 am

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The obvscum comment was more for chiasma.

As for 1-v-1

If VPB survives, and claims he was targeted, then there is no tradeoff because TNM is cleared (unless they're both cult gambitting, which would be lulz and explain the delay)

If VPB survives and claims he was not targeted, then of course we have to lynch TNM. If he was not targeted, he is claiming TNM is scum. This is how we catch liars. It's not a trade, because VPB would still be alive. It's only a trade if VPB then lies which signs his own death warrant. Which is scum dictating the terms of the trade and getting themselves lynched. If VPB wants to put himself on a silver plate, go ahead, but don't then complain that I'm trying to engineer it ;)

If VPB is murdered we get a clear. This is a tradeoff, but isn't that WHAT YOU WANTED in the first place TNM?

If VPB is ritualed, well, that's the WIFOMscenario but that's always going to be a problem.
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Post Post #4157 (isolation #240) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:25 am

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Hey, I got put on the stalk list for saying it. At least you get a chance to live.
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Post Post #4162 (isolation #241) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:37 am

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xvart wrote:Plum - what do you think of this whole TNM situation?
An astute question.
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Post Post #4170 (isolation #242) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:30 am

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That looks.../jawdrop
I would be happy to sheep on that and lynch Seacore today. Lol.

Trilo: dyu think Seacore was risking that I would get stalked by someone else?
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Post Post #4172 (isolation #243) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:45 am

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(a) I think scum could. No idea why they'd want to though, unless it's to protect Iec, but the case was promised before you'd even said you agreed to it. TriloScum = IecScum though. Maaaybe misguided townie, but that would imply the case is weak and it looks strong. Also, I'm only happy to sheep BECAUSE I'm dying tonight, duh.

(b) Easy dust is a great counter, though.

(c) No kill could easily be for gambit-clearing two scum if Seacore/Nico are scumbuddies.
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Post Post #4208 (isolation #244) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:54 pm

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Seacore killing me is good. I'm still happy with my TNM vote but I wouldn't mind seeing Plum go down today if we're not taking out TNM. There is NO point in asking or hoping for town to rez VPB, because that entirely fucks with programme of confirming and you WILL end up in WIFOMtown. If we sanction town rezzes on VPB, it allows far too much "what if". If you don't lynch TNM today it has to be at the cost of VPB.
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Post Post #4217 (isolation #245) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:22 am

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:( I wish Seacore and Iec hadn't both stalked me. CONTENTIOUS ISSUE.

Hito's Wall-O-Counter seems to have less holes in that Trilo's Wall-O but now I want to see Trilo's Wall-O-Counter-Counter.

SO LONG AS WE CLARIFY WHO IS STALKING BEFORE NIGHT.

If they fluff and say "Oh no I stalked it" when they weren't the guy to do so lynchlynchlynch.
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Post Post #4219 (isolation #246) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:10 am

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RE: the TNM lynch, I think TNM was hoping you'd get rez'd, and in fact it looks like he's still even counting on it. Which doesn't make any sense from his "keep it a secret perspective" or from his "confirm myself" perspective.

But hey, if you Rez, rezzes on you fail, right? So if we're letting TNM kill VPB, we should have Hito kill Andy and VPB rez someone. Then the cult can't screw with it and if it's ritual, TNM was bullshitting.

So Seacore kills Vox who rezzes Seacore = confirmed inv. or cult
And Hito kills Andy who rezzes Hito = confirmed inv. or cult
And TNM kills VPB who rezzes TNM = confirmed inv. or cult

We'll either have three confirmed townies or three confirmed cult or a mixture of all three. Why were we even worrying about cultWIFOM?

I think the only real issues are whether (a) we let Seacore or Iec kill me;
and (b) whether we'd prefer 3 confirmed roles with TNM alive instead of VPB (i.e. lynch Plum today), or only 2 confirms but keep VPB alive (i.e. lynch TNM today). Though I hate to say it, killing VPB for 3 confirms either way is probably the better option.
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Post Post #4220 (isolation #247) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:12 am

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The only question would then be, if the person's alive, did they go against the rules and not rez (i.e. got cult to rez them) or was the stalker fake. Ones' flip will indicate the other's. Game. Set. Match.
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Post Post #4221 (isolation #248) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:34 am

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^Whilst eating a hotdog I realised this plan doesn't work if the cult were ballsy and claimed to stalk a fellow cultbuddy since if we flipped one we'd assume the other was town. I don't think that's too likely but it's worth baring in mind. Although we'd still get at least one dead cult which is better than none.
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Post Post #4224 (isolation #249) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:15 am

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Well both you and Hito have given compelling arguments. My opinion was that Iec should kill because of reasons I stated earlier. Then you countered with what looked like a reasonable argument for Seacore to do it. And now Hito has poked holes in your argument.

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I don't understand how you can say rez VPB and if VPB is ritualized kill TNM. If VPB is rezzed, then OF COURSE cult will ritual him. Rezzing VPB is just asking for trouble. The only way to save him is to say triple rez him. And if we say that cult won't even try to kill him, TNM gets screwed, and we waste four night actions. Saying rez VPB is like saying "ah, go on, make all our worst fears come true, cult."

The options have to be: lynch TNM today OR do not rez VPB.
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Post Post #4225 (isolation #250) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:16 am

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Also, note all you want. I'm probably dying tonight so I'm not trying particularly hard to pussyfoot around people anymore. This is the situation. Deal with it. You can't have it both ways.
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Post Post #4227 (isolation #251) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:43 am

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If VP rezzes someone, then cult can't ritual kill him. If he flips ritual'd, we know TNM is cult. So in fact, by having VPB rez someone, we actually save his life if TNM is cult.
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Post Post #4230 (isolation #252) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:13 am

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1a) If TNM is cult, he was probably hoping to use the wifom of "Cult rez'd VPB, that is why he has shown up as ritualed" to explain why he could not murder VPB.
1b) However, if VPB rezzes someone, any rezzes used on him will fail.

2a) Since murder resolves before the ritual, if VPB shows up as ritual'd, it means he was never murdered.
2b) Therefore we know that TNM could not murder, and is cult.
2c) Therefore cult can ONLY kill off VPB by exposing TNM as cult.

3a) Their only hope would be to not kill him and push the scenario of VPB being cult, not rezzing anyone himself, and having his cultbuddy rez him.
3b) Therefore VPB would not die.


Bare in mind though that cult could just make the trade and get rid of VPB at the cost of TNM. This would be a one-for-one trade that catches TNMscum which isn't that bad for town.

Even bare in mind that (3a) could actually be true if everyones' VPB townreads are way off. This is more difficult but is solved by lynching TNM first; and then if he flips town, lynching VPB, so in this scenario it's at worst a one for one trade that catches VPBscum, which isn't that bad for town either.
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Post Post #4231 (isolation #253) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:15 am

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VP: if cult successfully ritual you,

- if TNM is town, you'll show up as murdered. So we won't mislynch him.
- if TNM is cult, yes, you'll show up as ritual'd but then...well, in this scenario killing TNM is goodthings.
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Post Post #4232 (isolation #254) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:15 am

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EBWOP: replace "successfully" with "attempt to"
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Post Post #4235 (isolation #255) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:25 am

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VP Baltar wrote::( Life is so unfair.

Seriously though, if TNM is town and is allowed free reign to kill me tonight I'm going to be a little bitter. I don't think I could actually play anymore obv. town than this.

--preview edit--

I understand what AV is saying now. Thinking (and trying not to be biased).
This is just it. I really don't want to see you dead, I mean, you were my consistent rez target. But cold, hard, objectivity states that it has to be this way. :(
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Post Post #4237 (isolation #256) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:06 am

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Yep, the same logic can be applied, because me and Andy are both rezzing tonight. I used TNM as the example to highlight it because it's VPB rezzing that is the debateable issue. Though if TNM is our lynch today, its only useful in terms of mine and Andy's murder/death.
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Post Post #4241 (isolation #257) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:51 am

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Andy: Hito got swapped in because VPB was possibly getting killed tonight anyway so it was pointless having him cleared. Whoever does it, it'll be nice to get the obv-towns proper confirmed town.

I still think, cold-hearted objectively, it makes more sense to have TNM do his kill and lynch someone else today. But if TNM is cult then lynching him today is far superior. I'm not confident enough in TNMscum to say DEFINITELY SCUM but enough to be happy to have him swing.

Lol remember when Ben was going to kill Fate? What happened to those days?
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Post Post #4244 (isolation #258) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:59 am

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Andrius wrote:I remember. It was a long time ago, back when we were young men. Now we are old men filled with regret, waiting to die alone...
/cookie to whoever can tell me where that is from. lol
I want to say No Country for Old Men, but it's probably not.

Benmage wrote:
AurorusVox wrote:Lol remember when Ben was going to kill Fate? What happened to those days?
I agreed not to. Then Fate got two townies modkilled and put the town in a whole to start. Then I caught cult, but others thought it better to lynch town. Now I'm grabbing everyone by the hands and dragging them into the light.
Yeah. Ah, how things change. I want to leave a legacy of SURGING AWESOME, so I hope my logical plans help somehow.

/goes to lie in a grave
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Post Post #4247 (isolation #259) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:01 am

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Nice to see you're still around Kunk.
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Post Post #4250 (isolation #260) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:15 am

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Kill attempt on SpyCult.
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Post Post #4252 (isolation #261) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:24 am

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He outed Spy as scum by attempting to kill him. That was the reason we lynched Spy.
Unless you think they're playing the long-game and traded SpyLessObvScum for BenmageUnderSuspicionAtTheTime?
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Post Post #4263 (isolation #262) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:05 am

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^I'm happy for this. If both VP and Hito are getting themselves confirmed over the next few days, it'd be preferable to have VP do it earlier to save the additional-stalk insanity.

HOL DUP

You and Hito have the same # of insanities. DAMN YOU, BALTARZAAAAAR!!!
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Post Post #4266 (isolation #263) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:29 am

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TNM
Plum
Andrius (ploxx noez!)

Possibly Nico+Seacore as a package since I think they implicate each other.

Failing that, possibly one of Nacho / VV
Then lastly, possibly one of the "Tri" (Triglav / Trilobyte) just because I can't really remember which is which

Though, probably one super obvTownie out of Hito or VPB for ultimate blindsight will replace someone on the list. Ugh.
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Post Post #4267 (isolation #264) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:30 am

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*Oh, herp, put Iec in with Nacho and VV as my "not really sure but could be scum" candidates
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Post Post #4269 (isolation #265) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:45 am

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Won't work. I tried this on you and Fate. VPB will just get told someone tried to kill him, not whether it was Cult or a Murderer. To confirm a murderer you need the person to die.
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Post Post #4272 (isolation #266) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:00 am

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Eh. Cult can Greater Ritual him. Too much WIFOM. The only way to clear someone as a investigator/murderer is to have the target use a res kit so you KNOW they were murdered and cult can't interfere.

If you don't mind risking VPB, we can use my original cold hearted plan and lynch Plum today?
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Post Post #4276 (isolation #267) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:41 am

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Oh. I completely missed Kunk. FFFFUUUU-
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Post Post #4279 (isolation #268) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:02 pm

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I'm rezzing tonight so cult can't mess with your murder of me. I'll show up murdered if you're an investigator.

If Seacore is cult, his plan was to get his cultbuddies to ward him so that any stalk on him would fail. I see right through it, if it's motives are nefarious. I guess tonight's murder will clear this up.
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Post Post #4281 (isolation #269) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:18 pm

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Yep. If I survive, then FMPOV you're cult, but we can lynch me to prove it, since I'd only lie about not rezzing if I was cult and if I was town you'd be lying about the murder attempt. Cold-hearted objectivity ftw. We could use this plan for all the stalk-kills.
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Post Post #4284 (isolation #270) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:14 pm

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Yep, basically, at the moment it's a tool that exploits the one-for-one trade aspect of murder. We either get a confirmed townie, or confirmed cult. That can happen either tonight, or after a one day delay (which is where we'll need to get careful).

Best case scenario is the person murdered is cult (1-0 town)
And worst case scenario is still only a 1-1 trade

Just a quick note, though, Person B should rez Person A so that the potentially clear townie doesn't get killed off.
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Post Post #4286 (isolation #271) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:34 pm

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Except this time you have me as a Person B Q_Q

But yeah. I am confident enough in the plan that I will take the bullet for the town. Just promise not to let WIFOM into your hearts! It is the cruelty of the Cthulu!
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Post Post #4289 (isolation #272) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:26 pm

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TRIGLAV! RAGE!

This plan was my baby that I've been nurturing as my dying town legacy. And you say you like SEACORE for it?! WHAT IS THIS TREACHERY?!

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Ahem, back to Seacore:

That's my proposition. I think that gives us the best chance of catching and clearing. BUT, people were unsatisfied with TNM murdering VPB. I don't know. If we're pretty sure TNM is scum we can just lynch him today and save VPB, but it DOES mean we have one less "confirmed" townie.

Hmm. The plan is potentially at fault in the future though. After tonight, people won't be CLEARED by lynching the stalkee and having them flip cult, since cult can claim a stalk on one of their own and then not follow through. If they have buddies that are getting lynched anyway (Nico, Plum) then cult could manipulate this plan to make sure they're slated to stalk that person. Because I think we have the element of surprise, this shouldn't be a problem tonight. Also, because we have the element of surprise, it's the best night to maximum the stalk-kill-checks.

On the other hand, you CAN catch someone by lynching the STALKER and having them flip town. In this case, the stalkee didn't rez themselves and is cult. But again, if the stalker flips scum, that doesn't mean their stalkee isn't their buddy.

Lastly, you CAN catch people by lynching the stalkee and having them flip town. If the stalkee is town and claims they were not murdered, since they'd have no reason to lie, their stalker was cult.

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Stalkee flips town -- Stalker = Cult
Stalkee flips scum -- Stalker probably cleared TONIGHT ONLY

Stalker flips town -- Stalkee caught
Stalker flips scum -- Stalkee probably cleared TONIGHT ONLY
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Post Post #4304 (isolation #273) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:30 pm

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totallynotmafia wrote:He was trying to set up a fake 1-1 between me and VP, and then he set up my lynch as the only way to save the much loved VP Balter
Show me how its fake 1v1? IT IS A ONE V ONE. My logic is rock solid.

Your lynch IS the only way to save VPB. But I've been saying, and have always said, that though I don't want to see "Balter" go down, having you fulfil the stalk (that you in all likelihood can't do anyway) is a better option. Logically. Cold-heartedly.
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Post Post #4307 (isolation #274) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:43 pm

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TNM. You have just proven that you haven't read any of my most recent posts. So how you can say I'm scum when you've not been reading is beyond me.

Like seriously. My last million posts have been talking about VPB using a rez kit so that cult can't interfere.

Seacore: VPB said he was thinking it over, implying it was possible.
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Post Post #4319 (isolation #275) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:41 pm

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totallynotmafia wrote:Do we have enough rez kits to save VP Baltar? The only way cult will be able to fuck with my confirmation that way is to forgo the ritual, and I'll be happy to be lynched tomorrow if it means no town is ritualised tonight.
VPB rezzing and exposing himself prevents scum fuckery, and means we dont have to spend like, three kits on him to keep him alive. I.e. scum will just not bother and we'll have wasted your murder and 3 other actions...
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Post Post #4321 (isolation #276) » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:02 am

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If TNM is murdering VP, you don't then have VP murder Andy. You have Hito murder Andy.

Um. Delayed flips. FML.

We'd know in time for the next day unless Cult are content to ward every target (if they wanna stack insanities like motherfuckers let them). I don't think it'll be THAT big a deal, though it is a spanner in the shining joy that was my babycake.
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Post Post #4324 (isolation #277) » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:55 am

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Because you said you wanted TNM to murder VPB. What's the use of clearing VPB as an investigator if he's getting killed off tonight?
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Post Post #4331 (isolation #278) » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:38 am

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They can think we're dying scum.
<("<)

EDIT: Ninja'd by VPB

It's rather upsetting to see that hardly anyone is putting me on their list and I'm going to die tonight anyway ;_;

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Post Post #4334 (isolation #279) » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:23 am

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VP Baltar wrote:
AV wrote:It's rather upsetting to see that hardly anyone is putting me on their list and I'm going to die tonight anyway
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VPB you share my pain. But yours is worse I guess. (INB4 you AND Hito flip scum though, you obvTown monarchs, you.)
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Post Post #4351 (isolation #280) » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:26 pm

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Yeah. No townie should rez. That means that if cult want to fuck with the plan they have to dedicate further resources.
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Post Post #4394 (isolation #281) » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:22 pm

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Oh. Why is Seacore murdering me tonight instead of Iec again? Didn't people throw water onto the "Seacore is a dirty cultbag" theory? *mutter mutter*

Plz test Iec tomorrow night if not on me. Have him confirm his target last so cult can't capitalise on it and say they stalked the same person. Maybe I'm reaching just because I
hoped
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Post Post #4418 (isolation #282) » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:01 am

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Vote: Plum


If TNM is going through with his plan, then Plum lynch ahoy!
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Post Post #4426 (isolation #283) » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:15 pm

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I'm stalking Iec tonight, right?

Loljk. I know my assignment. Rezzing Andrius, wasn't it? ;)

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Post Post #4437 (isolation #284) » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:46 pm

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I only stalked Ben because Ben specifically asked someone to stalk him. But I guess that was begging cult to ward him in that case. That, or Ben is scum. Don't treat him as fully clear, just in case. 99% will do until he proves otherwise.
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Post Post #4463 (isolation #285) » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:44 am

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I am also in the biggest mini game, txtmafia. Hells yeah for the posting.

For a brief time I was in the smallest Newbie Game T_T That record's been fellated into oblivion now though.
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Post Post #4465 (isolation #286) » Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:04 am

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I thought we'd already decided Nacho was scum?
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Post Post #4482 (isolation #287) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:52 am

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RE: IecScum = Triloscum

The thinking goes that TriloScum would push SeacoreTown to murder me instead of IecScum, because otherwise he would have been outed.
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Post Post #4484 (isolation #288) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:48 am

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Of course. But its a good starting point.
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Post Post #4497 (isolation #289) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:00 am

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DRUNKPOSTING IS FTW
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Post Post #4534 (isolation #290) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:42 am

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Hito, can I get an Andrius style insight and summary?

T~T I want to TAKE IT TO MY GRAVE
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Post Post #4536 (isolation #291) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:05 am

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VP Baltar wrote:
AurorusVox wrote:Hito, can I get an Andrius style insight and summary?

T~T I want to TAKE IT TO MY GRAVE
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Post Post #4548 (isolation #292) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:22 pm

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Goodbye, cruel world.
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Post Post #5496 (isolation #293) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:36 am

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Brief "Yay Victory!" post...I like how:

(a) I played much more townish when my death was sealed
(b) I got the TNM/VPB stalk the complete wrong way around
(c) I convinced myself Spy wasn't scum for a very long time based on not wanting to OMGUS
(d) My "stalked target uses the rez-kit" plan was somewhat effective
(e) This game fawking roxxed my soxxs.

VPB played a decent game for the first half, and it was thanks for TNM's ballsy gutsy deviance that he was caught. I submit myself to you.
I think I found out Feysal was scum way before his flip through the dead QT so its hard to judge him alone.
Triglav I kept getting confused with Trilobite. I still don't know which one was scum and which one was town...>_>"

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Post Post #5559 (isolation #294) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:47 am

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Percy wrote:Sorry to keep you all waiting for the big mod breakdown, but I'll make it worth it. :D
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Post Post #5561 (isolation #295) » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:05 am

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Post Post #5577 (isolation #296) » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:45 am

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Vi wrote:ReaperCharlie has a wiki term to put up now that this game is over.
I've been wondering what this term is...Any indications? :)
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Post Post #5602 (isolation #297) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:48 pm

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DRUNKEN HELLO

GIEF PLOXX FOR TO READ PERCY I HOPE HE'S ALRIGHT YO
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Post Post #5618 (isolation #298) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:54 pm

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YOU MADE ME THINK HE WAS BACK
DAMN YOU
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Post Post #5620 (isolation #299) » Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:16 am

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FFFFFFUUUU--

I was planning on posting on the Year Anniversary of this thread, and completely forgot to do it :(
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Post Post #5635 (isolation #300) » Thu May 03, 2012 6:37 am

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SHIT
I was going to post on the 1 year anniversary of Percy's final post but I forgot and now I'm over a month late.

Hands up if you still have this bookmarked...
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