Mini 14 ~ Mafia Holographica (Game Over!)

[curiouskarmadog]

I am here...but the party is in my cell

[curiouskarmadog]

strange "PM"

[curiouskarmadog]

so far this feels more like a Mish Mash game...would love to play it there.

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if I had money to lay down, I bet with this cast of characters (no offense to be had), the game will not stabilize. I can hear it now "I played this was when I didnt know my alignment"

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like number 1.

I wont leave if it remains a mafia game, but would prefer a mish mash.

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I am here...got to get caught up, but it looks like it is the same old game, people shooting based on nothing.

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we could actually play this like a mafia game....we vote like normal, give ourselves two week deadlines that we stick too....at the end of the two weeks, the one who has the most votes die by firing squad of sorts...we dont use our powers until we vote...

..or we can just keep doing the same old bullshit.

@chess, you want me to "overreact"? trust me you dont...and yes..it was a threat.

[curiouskarmadog]

in reference to your idea.

here are my problems with it..

first, you are making a lot of assumptions about how the mafia/town can shoot....how do you know? am I missing something else? I shoot in a linear way, but I dont know if my shot will go through the people in my "box" first....and yes..I say first...and though I dont have it now...in the demo phase I had a kick ass ability that did a ton of damage, but had a chance to miss and hit someone else in the same line.

first you say there is already a group, but then you suggest the groups being broken up into towniest, town, scummy...so which is it? if we break up people in those groups, who is going to say who is the scummiest...it will take time to come up with lists...then, by the time we get the lists there wont be much time for the individual groups to make a decision...

so no..I dont like your plan.

[curiouskarmadog]

VP

I shoot in a linear way, but I dont know if my shot will go through the people in my "box" first....and yes..I say first...and though I dont have it now...in the demo phase I had a kick ass ability that did a ton of damage, but had a chance to miss and hit someone else in the same line.

and in regards to this (which you left out)

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Which breangs me to: What say you people of a demo weapons claim? More info is always better.

I think this is a good idea...especially if people rally behind VP's idea...which I am still not liking.

another question VP...if you were scum, could you come up with anyways that scum could use your idea to their advantage?....whether it be in group creation, placement, "voting" or anyting. you are a smart guy, so I really am looking forward to your answer here.

[curiouskarmadog]

@ckd 247 - sigh, what are you not understanding? I did address this. Most weapons have to have a selected target, therefore they do not cause collateral damage. THIS IS TRUE OF THE MAFIA FACTIONAL KILL THAT IS LISTED IN THE OP. Are you suggesting that's not how the mafia kill works? If so, I'd like to hear on what grounds you think that's true.

I thought that the powers were randomly given as were the alignments...if that is true..then they could have the power I had in the demo phase...I chose a target..it had a 70% chance of hitting the target..if it missed..it had a 30% chance of hitting someone else...

given your "plan" it could cause problems.

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VP, maybe I just am not understanding your plan.

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my god you are misrepresenting EVERYTHING I am saying..you are taking quotes out of their context and twisting shit..you want to to overreact douchebag?....fine..

PlasmaWhip(chesskid3)
PlasmaPistol(chesskid3)

no doubt this action will bring the wraith of game....but (shrug)..the truth of my action will lie in my death.

[curiouskarmadog]

oh god i must be scum, i am not even reading the rules..."how did you ever get that Best Mafia Performance CKD"?..did I mention I would have rather played this as a mish mash?


ok, reading rules.....ahh...can only use one at a time....well...guess we will just have to wait.

[curiouskarmadog]

(crossing fingers hoping someone says I am now overreacting scum)

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care to wager?

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^^^obvious scum gambit...so you shouldnt have a problem doing.

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lol, not an answer

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come on..you dont even know the stakes.

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you want everyone to BELIEVE you think i am scum....soooo...a little bet.

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so quiet now...come on..I know you are reading this....lets bet..

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no...testing something VP...if he REALLY thinks I am scum...he should at least be interested in the stakes...

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@ckd - honestly, if you're town. it's not helping and it's making me want you dead. Just let it go for now.

am I scum?

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anyway CKD's ridiculous tantrum makes him look more like really really annoying town, so i'm ok with him living for now, but I do want him dead by endgame.

so I wasnt under reacting scum or..?

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ewww. a module in my area....so who should pick it up?

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I think we should talk about who gets it...

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Iiiii'm probably going to take it.

if anyone wants CKD/someone else to take it say so quickly please.

and dont put people on a time limit(I think some town discussion first would be great.)...if I was going to pick it up, I would have done so by now.

[curiouskarmadog]

Iiiii'm probably going to take it.

if anyone wants CKD/someone else to take it

say so quickly please

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why do they have to say so "quickly"?

[curiouskarmadog]

maybe I wouldn like to pick it up?

or maybe I would like to see who says who should pick what up...maybe develop some links between people...I dont know...scum hunt?

[curiouskarmadog]

whoa whoa whoa???..I cant pick up?..but you give us a deadline before you will?

and who the fuck cares if 5 people give you a town read..it is Day 1 and that means exactly jack....if you have ever won a game as scum, someone thought you were town to get there...so that arguement is BS.

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I am not saying that I think I should get it...i am saying I want to what OTHERS have to say(develop some links)..just because you and I are in this space doesnt mean you or I should get it...why are you so scared of conversation? lets get some stances on the subject before you "quickly" pick it up.

and the fact that I was town in a game you were scum has nothing to do with my point...

what have I whined about?...wanting Chesskid to put some action to his words?....wanting the town to have some conversation before you "quickly" pick something up? Calling you out on a silly argument?..what exactly?

[curiouskarmadog]

sure is nice to not have a shield

waaaaaiiiiittt a minute...

you dont have a shield? I should have done 5 points of damage to you , but you only took 4...explain?

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Gamma, just pick it up; he's already cruising for a bruising as scum. Just my two cents, but.

based on what?

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also, am I scummy for not picking it up?

am I scummy if I pick it up?

looks like I am scum either way..


this doesnt bother anyone?

the only arguement out there that I am scum is that I under reacted?

this doesnt bother anyone?

[curiouskarmadog]

you take away the basic structure of mafia...and people forgot how to scum hunt....or really just play that game.

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ninja ninja everywhere-
@CKD- you've bitched about chess misrepping you when he was asked and explaining what posts of yours were scummy.
I will give you that this conversation is silly, because it is. Also pointless. You've asked me questions, I've answered them, and you've bitched about how I'm STOPPING DISCUSSION OH NOES.

oh lord more ninjas.
I've seen at least 3 people tell me to do this so yeah.

Pick up Module

I'll read the rest in a sec

lol, interesting...guess you couldnt wait till midnight then?....and yeah, you stopped discussion by picking up the item...

so complaining about someone misrepping you, is whining?

[curiouskarmadog]

why havent you asked for mine?

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also move

move west

Chesskid...if you are going to kill me...lets get on with it.

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when you are trying to establish links...to scum hunt..you want to know people's stances (and watch if they backtrack later)...I am curious why he didnt ask for mine....

for example..you have expressed that you think I am scummy...why exactly?..

[curiouskarmadog]

@CKD-Because I already have a read on you.

I can't read CKD for the life of me.

do tell

You think I'm scum too Gamma?

What the hell is going on this game

if it makes you feel any better, I think you are an ass...a town ass, but still an ass.

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I'd be pretty surprised if he's scum at this point, but Gamma should take the module because I think he's town that will use it more responsibly. You're my boy ckd, but you have to calm yourself sometimes.

if I felt like it would have helped us (the town), I would have picked it up. I wanted more conversation as to who should pick it up..and I am not sure why it was just between Gamma and I. I get pissed in games...usually more pissed as town, but been known to fake it (or geninuely) as scum. either way comments like "Scum typically "overreact" and (this is new for me) "underreact"" annoy the piss out of me. I think there are scum motivations behind this type of attack on Day 1....or any day for that matter.

in regards to responsibly...meh...the fact that I didnt pick it up should say something...but I get scum in my position (ie amount of heat I have) probably wouldnt either.

I think ckd is less town than gamma for their conversation on the item, especially when not coming to grips with Probtown reads getting preferential treatment. Seems a little bit, "but that's UNFAIR" type scum deal.

ahhhh.....now here is an interesting post...

lets say I was saying "that not fair"...what is scummy about it? and for the other side of the coin how was I saying "its not fair"...what the fuck i was saying was that is claim to picking it up was ridiculous for day 1...had nothing to do with fairness.

this looks like an attempt join the CKD hate wagon, without actually having a real reason....soooo...I want more explanation now...

Quote tag fixed. ~Vi

[curiouskarmadog]

Mod please fix quote tag.

[curiouskarmadog]

I do. If you want me to shoot, I'd be glad to - but I'd rather do a proper vote and lynch-type thing. I could do the 0 damage thing (EDIT no wait that didn't work?) . . . or could voice my support for killing off CKD again.

why do you have to support it, just do it.

move south

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top three scum...plum, VP (sorry bud), and Plum

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ha...plum twice....guess I have an itchy trigger finger..

chesskid...his crap attack then backing off when I pressured him.

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hey plum, you never answered me...why am I cruising for a bruising?...what have I done to deserve that label?

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ckd, as the only person trying to keep the wolves at bay for your temper tantrum earlier, I am disappointed...any reason for a scum read on me?

a gut call...couple different posts gives me that vibe....and I think you are now overstating what you did...you kept wolves at bay? that almost sounds like you defended me.

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where is that vouching post again?

and why do you think people want me dead for shooting chess, when no one wants him dead for shooting me?

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@CKD:

What are your thoughts on Gamma?

I dont know....my gut says town, though I didnt like the way he nabbed the module.

Plum, that is my cruising for a brusing moment? Really?...you are better than this..if you think I am scum, shoot me, quit trying to drum up support...

that being said.

PlasmaWhip(Plum, 5)

if I am wrong kill me please....seriously..end me.

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"planned"?

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Plum, kill him too while you're at it, please?

funny comment considering we havent seen his flip yet...

you know something we dont chess?

[curiouskarmadog]

if he flips scum, your comment seems silly now doesnt it?

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insert "she"

[curiouskarmadog]

and if you can kill me...please do...starting to understand fate now..at least in this game

[curiouskarmadog]

If she's scum
she still might as well fucking kill you eh?

nice backtrack..

soooo, you want her to kill me if she is scum?..why is that?...I am scum either way from your stand point?....interesting, because I was "town" in your point of view...until I said you were in my top 3 scum.

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noooooo, you told her to kill me....not "you might as well kill CKD"

so I am still scum either way no matter the flip???!?!...bullshit.

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not to late to take my bet chess.

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not money yo...your life....I will put myself in the middle grid and let everyone take whacks without saying a word.

if....when I flip town...you do the same.

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come on...you want everyone to believe you think I am scum...then this is a perfect way to get rid of me right?

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IF I AM SCUM...THE IT ISNT ANTI TOWN IS IT?

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but you already know my alignment dont you...

I am coming for you chesskid....better kill me.

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it is anti-town to want someone town dead.....soooo, why encourage plum to kill me? especially when you supposedly dont know what she is going to flip?

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HE'S 100% TOWN DAMNIT

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lies

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it only changed AFTER I said you were in my top 3 scum suspects...up until then...I was 100% town...nice.

[curiouskarmadog]

move west

put some actions where your mouth is....you obviously dont need to see a plum flip.

hit me, i am all yours..

[curiouskarmadog]

9pm today
you die.

see you then.

Really, ckd...

She did what we asked of her. Someone kill the bastard.

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CKD can die for that retardedness

so many threats, yet no flip yet...so interesting....

CKD I actually wouldn't be THAT surprised if he flipped town but he's playing such a shit game right now that he absolutely needs to die.

is my game such a "shit game" if Plum flips scum?....do you know something I dont?...

[curiouskarmadog]

I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN VIEWING CKD AS TOWN BEHIND FEUDAL, AND TO A LESSER DEGREE VPB, AND WHEN PLUM PROBABLY FLIPS SCUM WE WILL HAVE A POSSIBLE ALLIANCE PROPOSITION. I HAVE A SILLY PISTOL AND I NEED A MODULE.

such a bold statement, now there has been so much CKD hate...looks like I am going to die, get comments like this in quick before I go!

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for what it is worth (before I go) Fate...I dont think you are scum.

[curiouskarmadog]

Give me one reason not to kill CKD right now.

lol

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time will tell.

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also my gut says CKD town, but I will killl him as promised, to prove a goddamn point to him.

I love it when people say "I am going to do this, not because I think you are guilty, but to teach you a lesson"......more anti-town play for chess...your "lesson" will come soon enough.

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...You just killed someone you think is town?

oh jump in an say that shit now, I will die...why didnt you pipe up and this yesterday WHEN I WAS SCREAMING ALL DAY?!?..oh right, the difference...i wasnt dying yesterday..scum points here.

and i dont know if I can, but..

PlasmaWhip(Chesskid)

pretty sure that both gamma and chess are scum...leaning moreso Gamma...I think Chess is just daft.

[curiouskarmadog]

I dont think you will ever hear me say this again, but

I 99% approve of Fate's postings and stances on the past 2 pages..

Chess killing me makes little sense if (and he does) thinks I am town.

what makes more sense?

Scum killing town for bad reasoning

Town killing town for bad reasoning

not are they both cant happen..but what makes more sense..

it is pretty obv I am town (at this point), Chess had to kill me.

[curiouskarmadog]

98.9%

[curiouskarmadog]

does anyone know if my shot counts?

if it does..

I'd rather at least wait for CKD's flip before chesskid gets shot at.

can I take it back?

[curiouskarmadog]

...You just killed someone you think is town?

oh jump in an say that shit now, I will die...why didnt you pipe up and this yesterday WHEN I WAS SCREAMING ALL DAY?!?..oh right, the difference...i wasnt dying yesterday..scum points here.

want this answered NOW, where were you yesterday when chess said this?

[curiouskarmadog]

good game scum, you had me fooled.