Mini 1097: Simple Mafia

[Nachomamma8]

There really is no Rule 6, holy shit.

Anyways,

Vote: Guderian

for some terribe spelling.

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote, Vote: TBM

Why attack StrangerCoug for bandwagoning while still keeping your vote on LC?

I wonder which scumbag is going to sheepishly show up and bus their partner?

What makes you think they haven't already done just that?

[Nachomamma8]

Since you sound so 100% sure on this - avatar bets. If you're town and you lynch me as scum, you can pick my avatar for the next month. If you're town and you lynch me as town, I pick yours.

Weak, considering you're an alt >.>

Wait, so you're admitting you think I'm scum (using the word bus) yet you call TBM out for leaving his vote on me? Herpderp contradiction.
I did say the same thing earlier but I also don't think I'm scum.

Erm, don't know where you're seeing a contridiction.
Guderian shared the belief that your scumbuddy was going to pop up and bus you. I asked him why he thought they weren't already voting him. Just because you question someone else's logic doesn't mean you actually prescribe to it.

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: TheButtonmen

Still hasn't answered my question.
Still is scum.


I didn't vote LC because I didn't find his play scummy enough for a lynch until the whole claim situation, and I wasn't around when he was hammered. I didn't post a whole lot Day 1 because I wasn't around a whole lot in that 48-hour timespan. And of course he didn't mention me a lot; I wasn't around a lot. He didn't mention Jerbs a lot, either.

I'd say that scum would be inclined to bus in a quicklynch situation. When the flow of the town is going in one direction that strongly and that quickly, then usually scum are inclined to go with that flow.

[Nachomamma8]

Totally irrelevant vote here. SCUM

No. At this point, the town had began to move against LC. TBM accused SC of bandwagoning without a case, but kept his vote on. That way, he was encouraging an SC bandwagon without being criticized for getting off the LC wagon.

You posted very little day one, which is scummy. SCUM

D1 lasted 48 hours. And IIRC, Jerbs didn't get the chance to post a whole lot either. IRRELEVANT

So why aren't you voting the busser? whoever that is. TBM was the first person to vote LC You nk of jerbs makes sense, you want to distribute blame about the LC wagon and claim scum bussing.

I am voting the busser. As scum, I wouldn't want to give up my first place spot on my buddy's wagon either.
And if you want to get into NK analysis, then no, it doesn't. It wouldn't make sense for me to kill someone in the "didn't vote LC" group because then I would have less room to hide.

[Nachomamma8]

Friday evening/Saturday/Sunday morning are not good posting time for me, for the record.

I find TBM infinitely scummier than Guderian or Plum.

[Nachomamma8]

You could've waited for me to return, you know.

Also @Nacho: Who's your 2nd suspect after me?

SC.

[Nachomamma8]

Guderian was already hammered by TBM

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: TheButtonmen

Vote: Guderian

Yesterday you made a post in Newbie 1027 which had just ended discussing how you felt the game went; you were lynched in that game November 17th so there is no way your "brother" could have made the post game analysis post.

Lying is bad.

Linked below is the Conrad post Guderian made in #161, in three different games, at the exact same time. I don't see how TBM could've missed them if he went through Guderian's posts...

Mini 1094
Newbie 1034
Pick Your Power 4

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote

What do you mean?

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: TheButtonmen

I figured that I might as well cover all of the bases so I wouldn't get modkilled...

[Nachomamma8]

the only reason I didn't hammer when I unvoted Plum is because of my meta'ing him showed that his style of defence had been used before as town and because I felt we hadn't gotten enough information out of day 2 as there hadn't been any good counter wagons

But how did this change when he lied? You knew that the lie had absolutely nothing to do with alignment, so why didn't you at least wait for the answers to your questions?

[Nachomamma8]

Waiting for a TBM response. Also, Plum? We're still holding.

no, I lost my post, shit.

I wonder how long it would've taken you to type it back up; after all, you posted this only 8 minutes after your previous post...

[Nachomamma8]

@TBM, I assume that role claim is town? correct?

?

[Nachomamma8]

Quick look at the ISOs of everybody but me on the Lord Cable wagon:

• TheButtonmen talks to me more than Lord Cable, and I can't determine the vote reason from the latter just from the ISO. There is only one post between his ISO's 1 and 2, and it's LC's, so I'll waive that as a context-dependent thing.
  
• Internet Stranger was pushing against Lord Cable very hard, so I think the odds of them being scumbuddies are low.
  
• Guderian guns Jerbs first, then starts switching off to Lord Cable. Given Jerbs was the Night 1 kill, Guderian as scum makes no sense to me.

CooLDoG seems a tad off as he said he wanted a vote count before he hammered Lord Cable. Then he pushes for a Lord Cable claim, which he refuses to give twice. Why did he respond to the first denial to claim by asking again?

I'm not going to vote CooLDoG since he's not scummy enough to me to warrant my vote. I want my question answered, though.

[Nachomamma8]

But the problem is that you didn't even read IS's posts that closely before voting him for them. That's overeager opportunism.

[Nachomamma8]

CooLDoG, what holiday you celebrate on January second...?

[Nachomamma8]

Cooldog.

[Nachomamma8]

Mafia goon, town.

[Nachomamma8]

Okay, first person I'm looking at is cooldog. His position on the LC wagon was a bit unique; he seems especially reluctant to hammer in his ISO #1, but he also seems pretty ready to vote. His gut scum read on the main person attacking LC seems like a weak attempt at a chainsaw, and I don't like it AT ALL. His spot on the Guderian lynch is really that good, either. He mostly lurks through the entirety of Day 2, but pops up at the end of it with a demand for a claim and intent to hammer. He had former suspicion on me that he never pursued, and he had a previous town read on Guderian that was discarded completely by his intent to hammer post. Day three, I'm not going to hold the Dec 30 - Jan 2 posts against him since his explanation is sound enough, but I still find the "i lost my post" with no making up for it afterwards suspicious. I previously thought his questioning TBM's claim of Mafia Goon to be town to be a little scummy as well, but I think even the dumbest of scum could look on the first page or look at what people have flipped thus far. So that's more of a towntell because scum never expect anyone to claim scum.

StrangerCoug's position on the LC wagon is a bit more complicated. His reason for voting LC was "he called someone obvtown on page 1", which I find a little reaching, considering I'm known from time to time to do it myself. His case on him doesn't exactly seem as good as he acts in ISO #7. I've already explained why I found a problem with his Day 2 play. Day 3 play seems pretty solid to me, though. In particular, how he handled what he perceived to be an ongoing game infraction seemed protown to me. I'd expect scum that saw something like that to just PM the mod if they wanted a modkill, especially when they were the only member of their faction remaining, and they could keep an easily mislynchable townie around until LyLo. On the other hand, sheeping IS on D2 and sheeping Plum on D3 seems a bit passive definitely makes sense for play aimed for self-preservation.

Overall, I'm definitely leaning more CD scum than SC scum. Definitely would like to see some content out of the two of you, though.

[Nachomamma8]

Not hammering, to show my confirmed townness.

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: StrangerCoug

Kidding, kidding. I'm scum.

[Nachomamma8]

Mildly disappointed because of the whole Guderian's little brother nonsense.

It was a gift that kept on giving, yes, but it takes a bit of the fun out of a scum win...