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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:28 am

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/agreed
I thought it over more and I think this will give us some more info to go off of either way
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:31 am

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Why do
you
specifically think Wrath is the best vig candidate?
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:41 pm

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All powers that are eliminated on deaths will be revealed as was done with muh316's death. An absence of mention of lost power, such as in AntB's case, signifies that they were not carrying any ability when they died.
Cyclic Experimentation Set x02.


Equality is a perversion of the natural order!It binds the strong to the weak. They [the weak] become anchors that drag the exceptional down to mediocrity. Individuals destined and deserving of greatness have it denied them. They [the strong] suffer for the sake of keeping them even with their inferiors.
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:53 pm

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Ok, I honestly would vote for me for the same reasons I was being voted by Lateralus. I haven't done much scum-hunting, but this is mostly due to the bad timing. I'm a 95% at-work poster and I'm on vacation right now. I'm lucky to get a post in a day until 1/3/11 where I will become much more active. So for my few posts I get in in-between I was trying to address what was directed at me. Here I am doing it again. I will claim if needed. I don't want to be vigged.
I swear I left my gun somewhere.
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:00 pm

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WrathChild wrote:Ok, I honestly would vote for me for the same reasons I was being voted by Lateralus.
Bwah...? You're admitting their was no pro-town motivation for your play there... which is essentially claiming scum?

How do you feel about Parama/didden now? Do you suspect anyone else?
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:48 pm

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The Eruci wrote:
AntB,
Eruci
altered to
Neutral Survivor
, executed by The Judges Day 1.




Day One Continues.
wait, was he scum or town?
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:53 pm

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popsofctown wrote:ebwop, the mod said he was a townie. I got confused by the town alignment being named after the mod :S
where did the mod say that?
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curiouskarmadog wrote:what exactly is your definition of fluff?...also why do you think it is scummy that I didnt vote Prama but did vote Diddin?...do you know something I dont...also you are misrepresenting me here why?.. Did I vote Diddin before his "claim" or after?
You're totally right. You voted him before he claimed. So my bad. But still your posting fluff.
are you afraid to define fluff?
themanhimself wrote:Alright, AntB was town so I checked who's voted him and it's been CKD and powerrox so I'm gonna read them both in ISO and post my thoughts.
I am missing it..how do you know he is town?
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:56 pm

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The Eruci wrote:
AntB,
Eruci
altered to
Neutral Survivor
, executed by The Judges Day 1.




Day One Continues.
oooh I see..."Name, Eruci altered to Survivor"...

I read it as "Name, Mod altered to Survivor".....
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:50 pm

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Mod never answered my question.

MODDY MCMODDERSON - have you made any alterations to the abilities or are they as they are written on the MSwiki?
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:53 pm

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+1 "bullets for Wrathchild". Brings the total to five, (Parama, The man himself, Diddin, popsofclown,
Ryuk
Lateralus) who support such a shot. His defense does little for me, there's always an RL reason for not posting but they get a lot more colorful when you're trying to be scum. And the manner in which he defended himself was more upsetting than the disproportionate focus on his self defense, and the latter is the only thing explained by RL factors.

After Helghast's reaction to pressure, or rather, lack of reaction really, I'm going to have to follow RC and
Vote: Helghast
. (meaning Wrathchild isn't the person I absolutely most want dead, but he's a number two or maybe three and I want things expedited so we have 2 lynches today. )


@chkflip: dude. The wiki is not God. It's a wiki for crying out loud..
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:00 pm

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No, it's not God, but it could answer a question we've been shooting back and forth... which was whether we keep the stump or not. Among other abilities which may have been re-written or modified for this game.
"Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times." - Gamma, to me, right before confessing to being the town vig and murdering my scum partner N1.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:05 pm

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chk, do you think implosion's lying about his ability?

What do you think about Wrath & helghast?
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:21 pm

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It lacks so much authority I feel like asking if the abilities were modified from how they appear in my blawg.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:27 pm

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I don't think he's lying about being the stump, no, but the answer would help my stance on trying to keep the ability versus giving it to someone we're agreeing to vig out.

I think WrathChild has very unique circumstances... I wouldn't mind giving him until the 3rd to prove himself, as we have more than one avenue to go down right now.

Helghast, on the other hand, just seems scummy. But I can't pinpoint anything scummy (that hasn't already been addressed) and I hate parrots, so I've yet to give my full read on that situation and I will continue to play it by ear.

Lateralus, why do you ask?
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:28 pm

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Cuz they're both probable scum, can you please lay a vote down? It'll be easier for me to read you.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:31 pm

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I'll likely be voting Helghast as Wrath seems to be our vigbait, but that'll have to wait until something more substantiating happens. If my lack of votes clouds your read on me, I apologize, but you should certainly see why I wouldn't budge to such an obvious threat, right?
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:34 pm

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curiouskarmadog wrote:wait, was he scum or town?
curiouskarmadog wrote:
popsofctown wrote:ebwop, the mod said he was a townie. I got confused by the town alignment being named after the mod :S
where did the mod say that?
curiouskarmadog wrote:
The Eruci wrote:
AntB,
Eruci
altered to
Neutral Survivor
, executed by The Judges Day 1.




Day One Continues.
oooh I see..."Name, Eruci altered to Survivor"...

I read it as "Name, Mod altered to Survivor".....
Wondering if your confusion with the word Eruci is tied to another team's allegiance... :?
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:44 pm

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^good potential catch. I wouldn't mind lynching ckd today.

I'll wait for Wrath to claim and unless he has something amazing or somebody has a serious objection, I'll shoot.
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:25 pm

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Ok ... have to sleep now but an mostly back from the Holiday insanity.

Will read and post something of significance in the next 48 hours.
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Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:05 pm

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I feel kind of sorry for AntB, but a rule's a rule. That was clearly communication.

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NC 340 wrote:If the virus and daykill are whipedout then...idk it seems like the game could be unbalanced without a mafia kill and he's said some pretty questionable things about it (the kill).
Can you elaborate on this, please? To me, this sounds like you have information about scumkills that I didn't get in my role PM...

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Helghast 341 wrote:I dont constantly vote, I dont see the need for it and I keep all the FOS in my head, I only vote until I see hard evidence against someone.
I'm not asking you to "constantly vote". You're blowing my allegation out of proportion. It would be nice if other people could see some of the "FOSs in your head" so that we can start drawing connections between people. I don't want to come across as lecturing here, but forcing other players to attack/defend different people is a good scumhunting tool.

Also, I have a personal question for you. Did you delete your account and remake it or something? Maybe I am thinking of someone else, but I could've sworn I played with you before. It would've been before last month though I'm thinking.

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WC 353 wrote:Ok, I honestly would vote for me for the same reasons I was being voted by Lateralus. I haven't done much scum-hunting, but this is mostly due to the bad timing.
Ugh. At first I thought we probably shouldn't use any Vig power on account of us not having any flips to work off of, but, come to think of it, we do have two flips now.

diddin
, if I was to vote, I'd actually prefer a vig shot on EC to WC. I can see how WC is looking scummy to some of y'all, but this post reads genuine to me. Maybe I'm a sucker for the newbie card in this case, but this comment, as despondent as it is, leaves me wanting more. What do you think?
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:16 pm

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/I could accept a WC daykill
The Eruci wrote:
All powers that are eliminated on deaths will be revealed as was done with muh316's death. An absence of mention of lost power, such as in AntB's case, signifies that they were not carrying any ability when they died.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:15 pm

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popsofctown wrote:
After Helghast's reaction to pressure, or rather, lack of reaction really, I'm going to have to follow RC and
Vote: Helghast
. (meaning Wrathchild isn't the person I absolutely most want dead, but he's a number two or maybe three and I want things expedited so we have 2 lynches today. )


@chkflip: dude. The wiki is not God. It's a wiki for crying out loud..
Lack of reaction? Doesn't that just show I'm calm?
I have no role, so I can't really role claim.
Personally I am more suspicious of Diddin and Parama, but at the moment it's just a gut feeling.
So ya if you think I'm scum go ahead, but I'm saying right now that you will lose a townie.
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:49 pm

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I had a big post to respond to AntB, but I guess it is irrelevant!
I Am Innocent wrote:My 2 cents...Implosion had no reason to out the power that he did other than in town interest.

Scum would know they would be a target D1/N1 based on trying to get this anti town role out of the game.

Scum would not lie about the power because they know a town would get the role and verify D2 (unless they and the power were DK'd or NK'd).

Scum Implosion would have kept this power quiet and just subtly passed it on N1.

Town Implosion would have brought this up to the group D1.

The biggest problem now though is getting rid of this power. Based on above, I don't want to get rid of this power on a player that is probably a townie. But can we afford to wait, esp if Diddin is NK'd and his power lost to the void (or whatever happens to it)?

I am sure we have some protection role(s), and I would think that they would consider protecting Diddin with a 50% to 75% likelihood.

PS - Still out of state with family for the holidays, can hopefully chip in more after the new year.
agree with you on the pro-townness of that action
My plan in relation to this action is to pass it on to a VI-town player
Whoever Implosion determines is both pro-town and VI

benefits of this
- Scum can't push lynch on said VI
- VI loses vote, can't indirectly hurt town with bad voting

reasons, for once, it's not me
- I am improving my game
- Vi is in the Hydra with me, so auto-not-VI this game

So, basically, either pass it to scum or policy-pass it imo
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diddin wrote:Never mind then. Still works if there is a doc or something on me though.
No doc is going to protect you
if a doc would protect you he is an idiot
The town is going to vote on who you shoot if I have any say about it
I hope to god this is Furcolow who posted this.

A doc protect would insure I pass off my dayvig power tonight. Why is a doc an idiot for protecting me?

Also we've already decided to vote on who I shoot.

The only way this makes sense is if you think I'm one-shot, in which case you're seriously blind.

pops has gotten more protown. AntB hasn't. HoSing someone for being a newb, then throwing around a ton of suspicion on Sait while keeping a vote on Narsis for voting for gut. Earlier he FoS's Saint for ...swearing and randomly posting... yeah.
I like this post from diddin
+town points

This also brings me to the next point I wanted to address, too!
We need to bring up who diddin should shoot
I would rather see a vig hit on Narsis or EC than WraithChild
RedCoyote, despite being on a few people's town list, is someone else I wouldn't mind shot because of his post #84. I don't feel he is posting as he does as town. At one point, it should even be considered a slip I picked up on in his post #84 in that it completely lacked direction and was mere responses to players. I also felt like it lacked a conclusion/substance and as such I'm fairly certain if shot he would flip scum.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:59 pm

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Count me in the group that understands why WC is getting so much attention, but would still prefer EC over him.

Obv Diddin should not shoot until said player has had a chance to claim.
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:35 am

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I Am Innocent wrote: Wondering if your confusion with the word Eruci is tied to another team's allegiance... :?
if I was on another team...wouldnt I know who was town and scum? :roll:

what I find interesting though is why you pointed at me, but completely ignore the other person who did the EXACT same thing.
popsofctown wrote:ebwop, the mod said he was a townie. I got confused by the town alignment being named after the mod :S
why is that?
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