Mini 1099: The Prisoner Mafia. Game Over.

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VOTE: SPYREX

form obvious scumbaggery.

FOS: PLUM

for lurking.

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Numb er 4053096096029.

Seriously what the hell kind of question is that?

It's a very good question - especially if you are familiar with the show. Some numbers are better than others. Some numbers worked for number 2. Some numbers became the new number 2. Some numbers betrayed number two and helped number 6. You obviously lied about your number.

expand on this, tia

chesskid and fate are town.

jack could be town but im not sure,

hiraki could also be scum.

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Tajo you misspelled Jack. I understand though.

And I'm seriously about Ruffles being town.

why

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and I'm serious about Hiraki being scum.

why

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changed my mind, spyrex can be town after all

Unvote Vote: Ethereal Cookie.

hiraki is also a good vote.

just fyi, we should lynch/vig/stone/fry/etc the two millers before endgame.

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if you kids are not doing your homework then ill explain why the ethereal cookie is a good vote:

I'm trying to confirm whether or not I missed something; I've re-read, but I still can't spot something. So, my question is, why?

Why claim a power role on top of Miller, Jack?

many people have asked this already, i seriously dont care if jack's answer makes sense or not, but this etheral cookie keeps asking... scum wanting to join the hate without putting his vote where his mouth is, please die.

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No.

I am not dealing with this until "endgame".

i didnt say until, i said before

if millers act scummy lynch accordingly, if not then proceed normally with typical scumhunting, ive always played like that before and good things happened.

why do you think jack is acting scummy?

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Thoughts of the cookie please?

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V/LA until Monday. My birthday is tomorrow and Im drinking like a beast today.

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in b4 lock

first things first, you know, while i understand that you guys (fate and chesskid principally) are high on hormones and like spamming the thread instead of doing more productive things, you'll do the game a favor if you just tune it down a little. I think you guys are town and did a good job at lynhing the etherealcookiescum but we need more reasoning and less spam to catch the tricky ones.

would have liked a little more conversation but im ok with this.

good night.

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CHRISTMAS TIME MEANS VERY LITTLE ACCCES UNTIL 26TH. WILL PROB POST SOMETHING FROM MY PHONE TOMORROW

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ok lets do this the ol fashioned way

towni (will prob reevaluate for odds of sk in the mix)
chesskid3
Jack
SpyreX

dammit unreadable zone
Sotty7 (replaces Ojanen) - last post was good though
The Rufflig - debating wether this guy is just obnoxious townie or a very bold scum.

could be scum but need more reread
Camn
Plum

scumzorz
Nachomamma8

Vote: Nachomamma8

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aditional notes that do not explain my reads:

bulbasaur needs to calm the fuck down

and ojanen, my friend, you are prob not reading this, but I sincerely wish things get better for you.

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now as for some reasoning

EtherealCookie: 7:

populartajo (19), SpyreX (26), Jack (28), Zang (31)

, Plum (33),

Fate (36)

, Camn (37)
Hiraki: 2: Ojanen (29), chesskid3 (32)
SpyreX: 1: Nachomamma8 (16)
Jack: 1: EtherealCookie (23)
Fate: 1: The Rufflig (27)

one of plum and camn is scum, if not both. spy reaks of town for some of his analysis and his stuboorness. jack is gut for some one liners.

there is also at least one scum lurking and yes this makes me a hypocrite (and you are free to make cases about me prioritizing other stuff) but thats how thing works when all scumzors are alive. Im thinking stratgical posters like plum and nacho, maybe maybe jack.

between chess and camn, chesskid screams genuine town while camn feels more fabricated. Chess is a very solid read, i dont think his scumteam would have killed fate. I agree with a lot of his reasoning. (sheeping rufflig, voting nacho from the go). Also this:

I am not against this lynch.. but I think the wagon is moving a bit fast. I want more meat in day 1 discussion. You know as well as I do it can be a gold mine. But this so far looks like tons of filler.

In other news... This cookie wagon is still too fast.

That said.. lets see the flip. Sometimes a quickwagon IS useful. And that 'defense' was anything but.

wtf happened between these three quotes (the first one the 19th, the last ones from the 20th) to make you hammer Ethereal?

im debating wether rufflig is onboxious townie or some kind of scumzor with some couching. and ive seen some poeple think he is obvtown, please help me here, spy, chess?

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why nacho is scum:

-strategical lurking scumtell.
-convulated case against spyrex that he later discards

I agree with you that the Jack conversation is getting a bit stale, and I'll also agree that it's missing a lot of Jack. We're done with this conversation for now.

- actually his ONLY vote and suspect all the game has been spyrex. (scared of attacking people scumtell)

alot alot of fluff

Plum, why didn't you pay any attention to Jack today?

Sotty, what's your interpretation of this post?

?, what kind of scumhunting questions are this?

The FoS is adequately hypocritical, considering tajo is gone like dust in the wind.

wtf this has been in the game for years, what is the point or motivation to bring it? oh, i know

Spy, what's your read on Tajo?

trying to mislynch tajo scumtell.

PLEASE DIE

Confirm vote: Nachomamma

Good votes also: Plum and camn.

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hey rufflig please link me to a scum game, tia.

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nachomamma, scumlist (towns, neutrals, sumz) in your next post plz. feel free to add some commentary attached.

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This, of course, totally destroys POE as actual 'reasoning'.. it is like saying "I think camn/plum are scum and I will tell you why: cuz I think it!! haha!"

Keep in mind.. I am not disputing your conclusions, per se (Plum could really be scum).. but your logic is questionable. I think you can do better.

wtf, you know how i play, i always do that all the time.

an easy wagon guarantees at least one scum on it. Mixing confirmed results with my town reads, that I explain in the same post, POE works eficiently with the people I dont have a read on, therefore increasing their odds of being scumz.

you dont think that wagon has scum on it? if no, why? if yes, who is the scum in that wagon?

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Nacho. Post. Here. Now. Explain.

i agree with this sentiment

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I dont know, Tajo .
I think if there is scum, they would have got on early... but part of the reason I hammered is because I had a pretty good town-read on everyone but Zang that was on at the time... and Zang flipped town.
Not enough data for good VCA on that wagon right now, i think. If ever.

Also, you should read this game with town-camn in mind. . . it would be more accurate.

camn who is scum?

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rereading now

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im Number 129, 2-Shot Bulletproof Village Resident

discuss

further thoguhts in following post

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nacho and jack should die. gg.

Vote: nacho.

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VOTE: SPYREX

form obvious scumbaggery.

FOS: PLUM

for lurking.

vote town, fos scumbuddy. lurking comment makes little sense.

these are the types of noob mistakes i'd avoid, fyi.

changed my mind, spyrex can be town after all

Unvote Vote: Ethereal Cookie.

hiraki is also a good vote.

unvote previous town, but don't vote for fos'd scumbuddy. Instead vote other town.

mmm, town never vote other town?

chesskid and fate are town.
jack could be town but im not sure,
hiraki could also be scum.

town reads on chess and fate, sort of town on jack...

if you are town, then omg im so scum for being right!

just fyi, we should lynch/vig/stone/fry/etc the two millers before endgame.

But both should die. Refers to us as actual millers.

this was me joking about the miller BS you guys were trying to achieve.

i didnt say until, i said before
if millers act scummy lynch accordingly, if not then proceed normally with typical scumhunting, ive always played like that before and good things happened.

backtrack.

this was me being serious in case some of you were telling the truth.

dammit unreadable zone
Sotty7 (replaces Ojanen) - last post was good though
The Rufflig - debating wether this guy is just obnoxious townie or a very bold scum.
could be scum but need more reread
Camn
Plum

Plum still scum from the lurking?
Sotty unreadable but last post was good. nice.

it was good indeed.

one of plum and camn is scum, if not both.

oh yes i was right again.

Makes big case on nacho. Vote analysis and "I think strategical posters are scum, maybe plum". Goes after camn on quotes. Last post is going after camn as well.

i thought camn was scum, wats the big deal.

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im also pretty sure there is a way this is a town win with the actual mix of power roles. let me think.

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Any cop or doc drops to try and draw a nk from the scum, populartajo?

im usually good at drawing nks just being me. guess cheskid and fate spam were more dangerous for scumbags shrug.

How about a little more flavor on the bulletproof?

total flavor can be summarized in me being at one time a general who helped keep secrets for the government, but then these circles changed and i wasnt needed anymore. then i had to retire but i knew too much. i cant escape from the village, i cant live fine if i follow rules but if im unlucky, i cant get caught up in some plots from the powers that test the residents. Fortunately, ive got a trick or two from my days in the army to protect me.

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flavor is not what you should worry about

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ok, with Ruffig claiming bomb, i dont see a scum doing this in this precise moment, im now 100% sure that its Jack and/or Nacho.

i dont see how this makes me scum though.

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V/LA for a couple of days due to sickness

That said.. Nacho must be a SK, probably the last threat to the town.

So I'm guessing you're assuming that all the talk of #2 (big bad of the show) and "his cronies" is a red herring, then?

The Zang kill doesn't make sense from a Nacho as SK standpoint, considering he was the only person who lurked as hard as I did D1.

of course the zang kill makes sense from an inexperienced SK who thought could play the vig card in the dance claim.

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@ populartajo... so riddle me this: have you used these 'protections'? As in.. if you get shot at tonight... you stay alive?

the ability is reactive, so if someone tries to kill me, this ability triggers.

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ok, with Ruffig claiming bomb, i dont see a scum doing this in this precise moment, im now 100% sure that its Jack and/or Nacho.

i dont see how this makes me scum though.

Game balance.

1 scum watcher, 1 scum jailkeeper
1 town bomb
2 masons
1 sk

Completely screws over scumteam.

1 scum watcher, 1 scum jailkeeper, 1 scum 2-shot bulletproof
1 town bomb
2 masons
1 sk

Is balanced. Scum risks losing one of their guys to bomb, but the bulletproof guy can kill him and can survive an sk hit.

bulletprrof doesnt work with bomb

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mi ability is reactive, i cant target.

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the problem is that i am not scum

do you really think a bulletproof scum is more likely than a bulletproof town with a sk in the mix?

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also its totaly unfair for the sk to have a bulletproof scum

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seriously, why is nacho still alive?

i understand the dance between jack-tajo, but nacho is the play today.

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tl dr,

we need to hit a killling faction today, jack is scum and nacho is the sk.

tajo is town btw but i understand the jack-tajo dilemma since ive been really lazy and what not.

but nacho should have died years ago.

@ruffig, seriously do you think im scummier than nacho?

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seriously, why is nacho still alive?

I'm not willing to hammer Nachomamma8 right now because I think you or Jack stand a better chance of flipping scum. Nachomamma8 stated a rather obvious point that everyone seems to be missing, but that I happen to believe in. The sk could be legitamately scum hunting. So, from my point of view we have a 1 in 2 chance of lynching the last mafia with you or Jack vs a 1 in 4 chance of hitting the sk by lynching you, Jack, SpyreX or Nachomamma8. (If camn was an unconfirmed mason then I don't think Fate would have made that outrageous bet). Also, I trust that number 2 is in this game as I don't think the mod is lying to us about him. You're welcome to address any of these points after SpyreX makes his case -- either that or try and get Jack to hammer Nachomamma8.

the only way to win this is by getting rid of a killing faction so that we can still have room to fuck it up tomorrow, so we need to hit the likely scum left or the sk left. The scum left is between jack and me, since camn is uncounterclaimed mason, spy and you are pretty clear town, jack and me have been a bunch of lazy bastards, and nacho is the "survivor" that doesnt fit in a 3 scum-1 sk most likely scenario.

so yeah

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It will. I'm the vig, I just thought you would lynch me as SK if I claimed it.

Camn, Number 41, Village Resident Mason, was garroted night three.

explain now

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i think ruffig is very unlikely to be scum after that vanilla bomb stuff, his love for flavor and overall a fresstyle voting approach.

i dont want to even analyse spyscum, so ill gladly give him the win if he is the tricky one,

that leaves jackas our garroter, i caguth him when he tried to mislynch me yesterday thats tight

gg

vote jack

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im still bad in this game sigh

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seriously fuck me