Mini 1099: The Prisoner Mafia. Game Over.

[Jack]

vote:ojanen

[Jack]

I like hammering without claims too. But I have a feeling this is an all vanilla setup anyway.

[Jack]

I'm the miller, I doubt there are two.

unvote, vote:fate

[Jack]

Jack, why would you say you think there are no prs in your first post if you're a miller?

My role would be overpowered if there were any other pr's. The miller bit is to weaken it.

unvote

Adding another miller to cast suspicion on me could be part of zorblag's plan.

[Jack]

It's not in the interest of the town that I reveal more details about my role at this moment.

[Jack]

Zang is town.

[Jack]

It's not in the interest of the town that I reveal more details about my role at this moment.

inb4 "I'm a miller bomb cop double-voting princess"

This is not my role but I'm not going to disconfirm any other suggestions as that will lead to too much narrowing of the down.

[Jack]

Currently Jack would be lynched at Deadline.

You guys are making a big mistake.

[Jack]

...if there would be no other roles to your claimed overpowered one, how would the miller part weaken it?

Standard miller strategy is to claim to start, which I wasn't planning to do however, but with fates claim I believe this scenario was zorblag's intention it was like a test which I failed but you all still have a chance to pass if you think about the setup and the flavor and what makes sense for this game I think you'll come to the conclusion that it does indeed make sense particularly if I'm NOT the only pr but there is a tracker or something of that sort.

[Jack]

Yes, I know - but I bet some people hadn't seen that and might have tripped themself up with a number greater than 200. Thanks for spoiling my trap.

TOWN

vote:SpyreX

[Jack]

vote:Jack

I'm not going to respond to votes with no reasoning to back them up.

[Jack]

So Jack is town?

That what you be sayin up ins?

(I REALLY dont want to have to go into a detailed discussion about saying its an all vanilla setup AND being a super powerful PR AND being a miller and how those three pieces don't touch each other in a pleasant way)

I already explained that

DIE SCUM

[Jack]

I'm the scum.

I'm the scum.

I'm the scum.

I'm the scum.

[Jack]

COOKIE IS SCUM

MUST REPROCESS

[Jack]

MUST REPROCESS

I actually have no idea what I really meant by this, except something about spyrex being on the wagon.

UNVOTE, VOTE:COOKIE

[Jack]

I remembered something from lay of leithian that makes me feel better about spyrex.

Cookie is still obvious scum though.

[Jack]

Two miller claims already? Mmmm.
UNVOTE: Plum

Either of the two millers wish to put a number with their claim?

Why did you say "two miller claims already?" and what were you thinking with the "mmmm"?

[Jack]

@Oj, fate, rufflig: vote cookie

[Jack]

Forgot the 1st and the third one.

If you want to know why I think cookie is scum read his iso.

[Jack]

Well we didn't want to wait for claims so:

vote:Cookie

See you all tomorrow.

[Jack]

Nacho is scummy.

[Jack]

Nacho is scummy.

Why and where?

a) because he's scum
b) Mini 1099: The prisoner mafia, I would link but it should just be this thread here barring any weirdness

[Jack]

Great. That us totally helpful.

I assumed cookie is scum and then looked through the playerlist/his iso and intuited it.

Also I have a theory that zang lurks more as scum.

COOKIE--NACH--ZANG

BOOK IT

let's get to tomorrow already.

[Jack]

That was a pretty major scumslip from fate...

[Jack]

no reread or comments on people who looked scummy in my review after the flip, but a big FOS for ruffligs awful posts today. THE SCUM KILL IS OBV FATE AND NOT ZANG

[Jack]

MUST REPROCESS

I actually have no idea what I really meant by this, except something about spyrex being on the wagon.

UNVOTE, VOTE:COOKIE

vote:spyrex

[Jack]

camn and rufflig are scum. More later.

[Jack]

unvote

[Jack]

I didn't have either of them down as scummy. Fail.

I feel like I've barely been here though.

[Jack]

Oh I see now post 442.

If that's a serious claim he should clearly be the "vig" shot.

*If Plum flips scum.

This was pretty obvious in retrospect.

[Jack]

I reread a page and tajo fos'd plum and voted spyrex I think.

[Jack]

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@Jack: It's bloody later. Where is the more we were promised late yesterday?

There's been two scumflips since then and I forget.

[Jack]

I missed day two. Rather clueless right now.

[Jack]

Tajo should claim.

[Jack]

I was absent for the holiday. I missed enough that I'm not in my scumhunting zone. So I will judge the ideas of the people who are.

It really does look like tajo though.

[Jack]

I was absent for the holiday. I missed enough that I'm not in my scumhunting zone. So I will judge the ideas of the people who are.

It really does look like tajo though.

Will you explain your Day 1 play, then?

What on earth is there to explain?

[Jack]

Evidently not. What kind of question is that given my posts today?

The claim stuff is just standard play.

[Jack]

I'm not nothing, I'm vanilla. Gosh.

But it's obviously tajo.

[Jack]

VOTE: SPYREX

form obvious scumbaggery.

FOS: PLUM

for lurking.

vote town, fos scumbuddy. lurking comment makes little sense.

changed my mind, spyrex can be town after all

Unvote Vote: Ethereal Cookie.

hiraki is also a good vote.

unvote previous town, but don't vote for fos'd scumbuddy. Instead vote other town.

chesskid and fate are town.

jack could be town but im not sure,

hiraki could also be scum.

town reads on chess and fate, sort of town on jack...

just fyi, we should lynch/vig/stone/fry/etc the two millers before endgame.

But both should die. Refers to us as actual millers.

i didnt say until, i said before

if millers act scummy lynch accordingly, if not then proceed normally with typical scumhunting, ive always played like that before and good things happened.

backtrack.

dammit unreadable zone
Sotty7 (replaces Ojanen) - last post was good though
The Rufflig - debating wether this guy is just obnoxious townie or a very bold scum.

could be scum but need more reread
Camn
Plum

Plum still scum from the lurking?

Sotty unreadable but last post was good. nice.

one of plum and camn is scum, if not both.

Makes big case on nacho. Vote analysis and "I think strategical posters are scum, maybe plum". Goes after camn on quotes. Last post is going after camn as well.

[Jack]

Vanilla here.

My brain hemorrhaged when camn said claiming miller as vanilla for drawing an SK is a good idea.

It was pretty funny. Anyway, fate did it first.

[Jack]

Yes, me too. Except you don't need to remind me.

[Jack]

so Nacho IS the sk. He's the lynch then.

[Jack]

No, nacho is obviously the sk.

[Jack]

claim survivor "post hammer" but not really. He knew sotty was scum and is a good scumhunter. tajo was absent and didn't know nothing about sotty.

Didn't consider anyone else when looking for sk, since nacho was already known 3rd party.

[Jack]

I don't know...for either.

[Jack]

This has not been my normal town game. It happens from time to time, and this game went quicklynch-->absent for day 2 --> 2 scum dead/massclaim.

[Jack]

8 town
1 survivor
1 sk
2 scum

2 mislynches could result in:

3 town
1 survivor
2 scum

[Jack]

I'm not really happy though, because the game is a bit slow.

[Jack]

That is very strange. I guess there are three scum, simply because of the huge chance of one of the scum pr's hitting you. tajo must be scum bulletproof.

[Jack]

ok, with Ruffig claiming bomb, i dont see a scum doing this in this precise moment, im now 100% sure that its Jack and/or Nacho.

i dont see how this makes me scum though.

Game balance.

1 scum watcher, 1 scum jailkeeper
1 town bomb
2 masons
1 sk

Completely screws over scumteam.

1 scum watcher, 1 scum jailkeeper, 1 scum 2-shot bulletproof
1 town bomb
2 masons
1 sk

Is balanced. Scum risks losing one of their guys to bomb, but the bulletproof guy can kill him and can survive an sk hit.

[Jack]

Yes. You could work it out with survivor if you wanted I guess. But I think I'd be dead if Spy was the SK.

[Jack]

The person who targetted me will end up 'exploded' as cause of death, if they can not survive an explosion (Rover probably could have).

[Jack]

also its totaly unfair for the sk to have a bulletproof scum

As opposed to town bomb + town bulletproof?

We don't know what the SK has for abilities.

[Jack]

I might rather lynch tajo.

[Jack]

vote:tajo

Spyrex's posts make me uncomfortable.

[Jack]

unvote

I don't think sk + survivor makes any sense. But spyrex please disavow any believe in that setup nacho posted.

[Jack]

Yeah, nacho is the lynch I think.

[Jack]

vote:nacho

This game slipped my mind for a bit.

[Jack]

Goddammit.

Don't tell me you were about to post whatever it was. I was waiting for that and thought it had been two days.

[Jack]

You did post other places.

But that's enough self doubt for now.

[Jack]

It will. I'm the vig, I just thought you would lynch me as SK if I claimed it.

[Jack]

I tried a couple times but I can't seem to state the obvious succinctly.

[Jack]

I only had doubts about you and the not-actually-game-over comments were soothing in that regard.

[Jack]

hmm, yes.

Vote:Tajo

I'll feel stupid if it turns out to be SpyreX, but whatever.

[Jack]

[Jack]

No, it wasn't me.

[Jack]

aahhhh, oh well.

Good SK is very difficult to spot by nature, because it's only minimally different from playing town.

My thought about tajo being absent and being unlikely to have pegged nacho was a good one though, too bad I forgot about it when nacho flipped scum instead of SK.