Mini 1097: Simple Mafia

[TheButtonmen]

V/LA

until Saturday night.

Exams.

[TheButtonmen]

Taking a brief break from studying.

Vote: IS

Long time no see Nacho / SC and as always it's a pleasure to play with you Plum.

VOTE: CooLDoG for sucking.

Is he actually policy worthy or is this just RVS stage stuff.

Anyways, confirm and all that jazz, preemptive OMGUS

vote: Plum

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You have never played a game with Plum before as far as I can tell so I'm curious why you would assume she's going to vote you.

[TheButtonmen]

Unvote; Vote: LC

[TheButtonmen]

ITT we learn SC is just bandwagonning without even reading the posts of the player he is voting as he takes time to;

it is an OMGUS vote, as it stands for "

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Explain what an OMGUS vote is to LC when;

Anyways, confirm and all that jazz, preemptive OMGUS

vote: Plum

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LC himself has already used the term and;

Anyways, confirm and all that jazz, preemptive OMGUS

vote: Plum

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You have never played a game with Plum before as far as I can tell so I'm curious why you would assume she's going to vote you.

@TBM: Alt alert at 11 o'clock!
Besides, pre-emptitive OMGUS lets you be wrong whereas normal OMGUS doesn't. The more you get wrongness out of your system earlier in the game, the more rightness you have when it actually matters. There's no need to question my logic but if you have questions about it feel free to ask.

His premptive OMGUS vote has already been a topic I have questioned him on.

[TheButtonmen]

Vote: Plum

We should do this again some time IS.

[TheButtonmen]

I'm awake, here and rereading*!

*After I correct the terribly wrong vote count I did before half asleep last night.

[TheButtonmen]

Lets start off with

Unvote: Plum

for now.

Re: Guderian He doesn't have enough finished games to really meta him but he has had this style (belligerent, demanding people explain why they are voting him rather then scumhunting) as town before, that combined with the lack of competing wagons so far today leads me to ask the following.

@IS, Plum and SC:

How open are you to moving your votes?

Also

@Nacho:

Who's your 2nd suspect after me?

[TheButtonmen]

Vote: Guderian

Yesterday you made a post in Newbie 1027 which had just ended discussing how you felt the game went; you were lynched in that game November 17th so there is no way your "brother" could have made the post game analysis post.

Lying is bad.

[TheButtonmen]

Vote: TheButtonmen

Vote: Guderian

Yesterday you made a post in Newbie 1027 which had just ended discussing how you felt the game went; you were lynched in that game November 17th so there is no way your "brother" could have made the post game analysis post.

Lying is bad.

Linked below is the Conrad post Guderian made in #161, in three different games, at the exact same time. I don't see how TBM could've missed them if he went through Guderian's posts...

Mini 1094
Newbie 1034
Pick Your Power 4

Mind explaining how his "brother" made these posts (1,2,3,4,5,6) about a game where Guderian was lynched on November 17th during the time period his "brother" had stolen his account? Unless your saying his "brother" went back, read Guderians previously completed games and decided to make postgame analysis posts about how he felt the game went and discussing Guderians playstyle?

I'm aware he posted it in multiple games, that doesn't change the fact he's lying.

[TheButtonmen]

Post / Vote tomorrow after I'm done a reread.

[TheButtonmen]

No I'm saying he was lying period; nothing about faction at all.

[TheButtonmen]

Kincaid the Very Vengeful Villager

has been lynched.

You thought everyone was disarmed for this meeting but the sudden bark of a pistol quickly shatters this misconception as Kincaid doesn't die easily or alone.

Kincaid suddenly pulls a pistol and shoots

[Redacted]

!

The deaths have started there is no turning back now....

Those with QT may now use them until the start of D2.

I will not be accepting night actions until Smarg has responded with her choice regarding the vengeful kill.

[TheButtonmen]

Errr whoops?

Please delete, wrong thread.

[TheButtonmen]

As long as you don't mind it cluttering your thread I'm fine with it being left there.

Sorry for the delay people I had a player request replacement right near deadline I had to sort out and then a lynch / vengeful kill to sort out.

[TheButtonmen]

I've had some time to let it sink in, and I couldn't agree more with #179 by Plum. I'm practically on a date with Lynch All Liars myself, but you're supposed to take what alignment someone probably is into account when you vote someone post-RVS, not go "I don't care what you are; you did this wrong; goodbye."

He was at L-1, defending himself terribly with decent case against him with players seeming solid in their desire to see him lynched and no possible counterwagons on people I found suspicious, the only reason I didn't hammer when I unvoted Plum is because of my meta'ing him showed that his style of defence had been used before as town and because I felt we hadn't gotten enough information out of day 2 as there hadn't been any good counter wagons (See my post #158)

He then lied and I'm a fairly strong support of LAL and thus I became comfortable with ending the day there.

[TheButtonmen]

I'm

V/LA until the 26th

and may you all have a happy whatever you do(n't) celebrate.

[TheButtonmen]

This is my response to Plum; thoughts on current game to follow tommorrow as it is currently zero dark thirty and Buttons is very sleepy.

Button, why'd you random vote IS (after my half-reasoned RVS vote on him) while asking these questions:

It wasn't random, I never randomly vote. I voted him because of this post.

Button, why did you sheep IS and vote me immediately Day 1? You commented on me little if at all Day 1, if I recall, so. Why didn't you attack SC, whom you'd had issues with Day 1?

I didn't vote you D1 so I'm going to assume you mean D2 (feel free to correct me if I misunderstand)

I voted you because LC's expectation of interaction with you made you a person of interest so starting a bandwagon on you was something I was interested in. I didn't attack SC as outside of him bandwagoning badly he never caught my interest at that point in time.

Also Button - what in the world were your thoughts about Guderian's play, especially his Day 1 play, when you posted this:

Nothing from his D1 play really stood out for me; the only note I made of him D1 was that he was sitting back and sniping a fair bit but with how short it was and only one wagon to judge him off of I didn't really take anything away from his D1 play. As for his later play I found his response to the cases made against him much more damning then the actual cases but as I said the partial meta I was able to preform on him made me believe that his response wasn't too sure of a scum tell.

At that time my top suspect was fluctuating between you and Guderian (You for the interesting comments by LC and Guderian for his response to being attacked). I didn't speak too much about my suspects as I had nothing solid to latch onto and there was never enough votes free to start a wagon. I unvoted because there was enough votes tied up / inactive that I couldn't get a wagon on you started so I was starting to see if I could get Nacho, IS, Sc or you to free up your vote to be used in a wagon.

Claim: Mafia Goon

[TheButtonmen]

@TBM, I assume that role claim is town? correct?

Yes.

*jumps in a hammock waiting for TheButtonmen to die*

I flip town who do you suspect and why?

We are day three on page nine; generate content rather then waiting.

no, I lost my post, shit.

Aww well you guys will have to deal with the un-epic cliffnotes version...

I don't think the day would have ended any different, gard was lynch fodder. I'll have to do re-read when I have more time on my hands... but I don't like tbm play as of late. I don't buy the lal thing. I will read more before I commit to a lynch.

Expand/Follow up on this.

What in my play do you feel has changed (you used the term as of late), why do you doubt my stance about lal (have you meta'ed me at all?) and have you done the reread?

Also @Nacho: Who's your 2nd suspect after me?

SC.

What about his play has stood out to you?

[TheButtonmen]

@button, I didn't/don't currently have the time to do the re-read. I feel that you have become slightly more unstable under pressure. I haven't metaed you and quite frankly, I don't have the time over the holidays to...

What posts of mine show me being unstable underpressure, if you haven't metaed me then why do you doubt my stance towards LaL and if I flip town who's your 2nd suspect and why?

[TheButtonmen]

Prodding Plum

Unless anybody has any strong objections I'm moving deadline to 48 hours hence

I have objection.

Can the deadline be 48 after she responds?

[TheButtonmen]

Gg's all.

Cooldog your play these last two days makes me .