Mini 1093: Fates Mafia (Over)


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Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:11 am

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There is no past.
No future.
No present.

There is only fate, the Moiraes, and those who would meddle with the borders of life and death





Fates Mafia


Awaiting their fate:

xRECKONERx
Parama

Katsuki

Gandalf

Hiraki

Plum

Smargaret

Shadow Dancer



Fate sealed

Chronopie,
Persephone the Action-Immune Goddess Lover Reflexive Fate Vanillaizer
, lynched day 1
Exe,
Hera the Action-Immune Goddess Lover Reflexive Fate Vanillaizer
, vanished day 1
CooLDoG,
Fate-Meddling Fatecop
, ended night 1
TheLonging,
Fate-Meddling Goon
, lynched day 2



General Rules

Modified, but stolen from Vi with... its... permission. (And now I notice I still don't know what Vi's gender)

1)
Starting and Ending States:
The game starts during the Day. All roles that can communicate can do so at any time. The game will end when one faction has fulfilled its win condition, unless otherwise specified.
2)
Day Procedures:
Each player may discuss the game and cast a single vote at a time against people they want to lynch. Day ends when either the deadline hits or a strict majority of the votes are on one person.
3)
Voting:
Votes should be in
bold
in order for them to count, for instance:
Vote: Nikanor
. If you wish to vote for a different player, you don't need to unvote. As long as I can tell who you're voting for, I don't care if you abbreviate someone's name when you vote them.
4)
No Lynch:
As an alternative to voting for someone, you may
Vote: No Lynch
, but for it to take effect, enough players must vote No Lynch that it would be impossible to form any other majority.
5)
Deadlines:
Deadline will be 3 weeks.
6)
Mass Inactivity:
In an act of pure villainy, I may shorten the deadline if I deem the activity level is unsatisfactory. You will be warned if I want you fellows to pick up the pace.
7)
Deadline Lynches:
If no single player has enough votes for a lynch at the deadline, the result is
No Lynch
and the game proceeds to Night. Deadlines are there for a reason.

8)
Twilight:
After someone receives the majority vote, everyone may still discuss the game, but votes and unvotes will not be considered - the person voted for by the majority will be lynched regardless. Twilight will last until I waltz in and post a death scene.

9)
Night Length and Procedures:
The topic will be locked at Night. If your Role PM specifies that you have a Night Action, you may follow the instructions on that PM to use it. In this game, Nights will last 48 hours for non-Fate actions, followed by another 48 for Fate actions, barring extenuating circumstances.
10)
Night Action Resubmission:
Due to the nature of this game,
you cannot change the person you target once you've submitted.
Think carefully before you send an action
11)
Role Overlap Policy:
In the event of overlapping and/or contradictory Night Actions (i.e. a mutual roleblock), priority is given to whoever PMs the mod with the action first. However, if two kills are submitted on the same target, the most damaging death will be the one displayed (You can slit someone's throat first, but if he got blown to smithereens no one will care about his throat...)

12)
Bolding Stuff:
Bolding something is how you get the mod to notice it. It's that simple.
13)
Mod Color:
If the mod needs to edit your post, it will be done in
brown,
italicized and bolded. Don't impersonate me.
14)
Activity, Prods, and Replacements:
You will be prodded if three days have passed since your last post. You will be replaced if you do not post after another two days, or if you need to be prodded three times throughout the game. If you know ahead of time that you will not be able to participate for at least 48 hours, go ahead and announce it in-thread so nobody (such as
the mod
) thinks you're lurking. I reserve the right to blacklist flakers or people who maliciously replace out.
15)
"Last Words" for replacements:
If you request replacement, you may PM me a message that you would like to have passed on to the person who replaces you.
16)
"Bah!" Posts:
If your player slot is killed off, it's probably because people don't want you around. Unless your role specifically states you can keep talking/voting/play parcheesi with me, you are allowed one informationless "bah" post and then scram til endgame. Special mechanics can of course overlap
17)
Outside Discussion:
Don't discuss this game outside of this thread with anyone unless your Role PM lets you do otherwise.
18)
Post Edition:
Editing or deleting posts is not allowed (and usually not possible). Doublepost with your changes instead.
19)
Mod and PM quoting:
You could potentially try to reformulate your Role PM, but if you quote it, you will be modkilled. You can send me the reformulation and I will tell you if posting it is allowed or if it needs further modifications. If you quote a PM from me, you will be terminated. If you quote a PM from you to me, you will also die. That's all.
20)
Modkills:
Breaking any of the above three rules (or flagrantly violating Rule 16) will result in you getting modkilled. Modkills can be retroactive. If a living player breaks any of these rules, the day may or may not end, depending on what would disadvantage that player's faction the most. A dead player breaking any of these rules will result in someone from the same faction getting modkilled. In addition, getting modkilled results in an instant loss for that player, along with my general hatred. In short, follow the rules. Note that I'm not planning to keep a blacklist of people to refuse in my games, but I have goooood memory

21)
Win Mentality:
Play to win.
22)
Policy:
Have fun. Or else. And remember, it's a game - keep it classy and don't take things personally; everyone's doing what they have to to win.
23)
Setup Design:
Please do not attempt to outguess me as the mod or the setup designer. I have a very fertile mind and if I were you I wouldn't expect my games to fit in the usual mold.


You know at least one of these appear in the setup:
Welcome to Fates Mafia, XXX

You are a
Vanilla Townie (Townie)


One day you heard in the street about people mysteriously dying. Worried, you locked yourself in your house, which kept you safe... but now there are only twelve of you left.

-You may vote and post freely. That is your only ability, so use it well.

You win when all threats to the town are dead.
You know each one of these appear once in the setup:
Welcome to Fates Mafia, XXX

You are
Clotho
(Doctor)


You are the first of the Fates. You control birth and life's beginning. Using your spindle and distaff, you create the threads of life. You and your sisters Lachesis (LLLLL, cop) and Atropos (AAAAA, vig) are infuriated some people have been toying with your roles and killing people, so you've decided to take matters in your own hands.

-You may vote and post freely
-You and your sisters don't have threads, but can still be targetted by actions not executed by Fates.
-Every night, you may use your spindle and distaff to lenghten someone's thread (AKA protect them for the night).
-You may not communicate with your sisters at night, so don't.
-Being in direct contact with the threads, you know who was targetted before having to submit your action, although you don't know the actions done, by who and if one of your sister has yet to action.

You win when the ones meddling with fate are no more.
Welcome to Fates Mafia, XXX

You are
Lachesis
(Cop)


You are the second of the Fates. You are the apportioner, and the one who decide destinies. You measure the thread of life with your rod. You and your sisters Clotho (CCCCC, doc) and Atropos (AAAAA, vig) are infuriated some people have been toying with your roles and killing people, so you've decided to take matters in your own hands.

-You may vote and post freely
-You and your sisters don't have threads, but can still be targetted by actions not executed by Fates.
-Every night, you may touch someone's thread with your rod to see their alignment (AKA investigate them). Result will be either innocent or meddling in your affairs.
-You may not communicate with your sisters at night, so don't.
-Being in direct contact with the threads, you know who was targetted before having to submit your action, although you don't know the actions done, by who and if one of your sister has yet to action.

You win when the ones meddling with fate are no more.
Welcome to Fates Mafia, XXX

You are
Atropos
(Vigilante)


You are the third of the Fates. You are the inevitable, and the one who end lives. You cut the thread of life with your abhorred shears. You and your sisters Clotho (CCCCC, doc) and Lachesis (LLLLL, cop) are infuriated some people have been toying with your roles and killing people, so you've decided to take matters in your own hands.

-You may vote and post freely
-You and your sisters don't have threads, but can still be targetted by actions not executed by Fates.
-Every night, you may cut someone's thread with your shears, killing them (AKA vig them).
-You may not communicate with your sisters at night, so don't.
-Being in direct contact with the threads, you know who was targetted before having to submit your action, although you don't know the actions done, by who and if one of your sister has yet to action.

You win when the ones meddling with fate are no more.
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:12 am

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It is now pregame. Until 10 players have confirmed it will be!
Once that is done the day will begin
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Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:18 am

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Special Rule Reminder


The setup is semi-open: It is general knowledge that there are three Fates: A doc (Clotho), a cop (Lachesis) and a vig (Atropos). They are confirmed to each other, however they cannot target each other and are unaware when they are being targetted (having no thread of life, see below). They have no QT.

There may or may not be other power roles in the game.

The Threads and NAR: Night actions are not processed normally in this game. All night actions submitted on a player that isn't a Fate will cause the targetted player's thread of life to vibrate. As such, the Fates will know that person got targetted.

Let's say player A targets player C and player C targets player F...
example wrote: C's thread is vibrating...
F's thread is vibrating...
Once all non-Fate actions are submitted, a Fate is informed and may action. Once he has actionned, another is informed and may action. Once he has actionned, the last is informed and may action. basically...

Action Order:

Non-Fate
Fate A
Fate B
Fate C
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Post Post #15 (isolation #3) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:11 am

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You guys are aware of course none of these votes count right?
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Post Post #18 (isolation #4) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:21 am

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By the way, even though their wincon wording is different, the Fates are part of the town and win with it...
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Post Post #25 (isolation #5) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:33 am

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Fate is being meddled with.
I don't know about SpyreX
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Post Post #34 (isolation #6) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:40 am

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It is now day 1!
With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch!
Deadline is the 26th... fuck it, deadline is the end of Christmas!
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Post Post #44 (isolation #7) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:44 am

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Extra note of the day: You can't lynch/kill/target your mod. Don't try
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Post Post #69 (isolation #8) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:56 am

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Votecount 1: Remember Ariadne? Now THAT was one long thread!



Chronopie (2): Parama, CooLDoG
Exe (1): xRECKONERx

Not Voting (9): Shadow Dancer, TheLonging, Katsuki, Chronopie, Gandalf, Hiraki, Plum, Smargaret, Exe



With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Christmas

No baby, I'm sorry but you can't haz mutliple dayvigzz :(
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Post Post #73 (isolation #9) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:57 am

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Guys... I began typing that votecount right after post 44 and it appears in 69.
Seriously...
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Post Post #117 (isolation #10) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:07 pm

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Votecount 2: Holding on by a thread!



Chronopie (5): Parama, CooLDoG, xRECKONERx, Gandalf, Plum
xRECKONERx (1): Chronopie
Exe (1): Katsuki

Not Voting (5): Shadow Dancer, TheLonging, Hiraki, Smargaret, Exe



With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Christmas
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Post Post #155 (isolation #11) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:15 pm

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Votecount 3: Threadbare?



Chronopie (6): Parama, CooLDoG, xRECKONERx, Gandalf, Plum, Katsuki
xRECKONERx (1): Chronopie

Not Voting (5): Shadow Dancer, TheLonging, Hiraki, Smargaret, Exe


Chronopie is at L-1!

With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Christmas

I'm going to eat... PLEASE let there not be 200 more posts when I'm back (Not that I think you guys'll listen to me...)
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Post Post #176 (isolation #12) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:20 pm

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CooLDoG wrote:@reck, yeah but your wagon wouldn't be at l-1 anymore would it?
Technically with 11 alive it would be 6 to lynch, so that is incorrect :P

That's a joke, daykills, just like modkills, reset the votecount
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Post Post #191 (isolation #13) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:23 pm

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CooLDoG wrote:@mod, yeah but I would be gone, making 5, not 6.
5 is L-1 to 6, AFAIK :P
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Post Post #301 (isolation #14) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:53 pm

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Votecount 4: CUT THE RED WIRE!



Chronopie (7): Parama, CooLDoG, xRECKONERx, Gandalf, Plum, Katsuki, TheLonging
xRECKONERx (1): Chronopie

Not Voting (4): Shadow Dancer, Hiraki, Smargaret, Exe


LYNCH!

Seriously you guys... modscene coming
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Post Post #304 (isolation #15) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:02 pm

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"Come my sister, we have work to do. The Moiraes can't do their jobs properly anymore, I will not have this anymore."
"But... Persephone, we cannot get involved! What if the humans lose their faith in us?"
"Please, the humans are peons, mindless sheeps. They would never root for our deaths"
"Then how to explain this growing mob?"

"Foolish human, how dare you rise against your goddess? I will destroy you, all of you!"
"Alas my sister, we are powerless against the humans. Our powers are dependant on their faith. If they are willing to kill us given the chance, we have no choice but to retire..."


Chronopie,
Persephone the Action-Immune Goddess Lover Reflexive Fate Vanillaizer
, lynched day 1
Exe,
Hera the Action-Immune Goddess Lover Reflexive Fate Vanillaizer
, vanished day 1

It is now Night 1! Deadline for Non-Fate actions is in 48 hours. If at least 9 of you PM me to fast-forward to the second phase of the night, we'll skip whatever time there would be left in those 48 hours!
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Post Post #308 (isolation #16) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:25 am

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*Snip*

With my shears, I'll end you
With my staff, I'll see you
With my spindle, I'll save you

We are Fate
We are the inevitable.

To oppose us is to walk the path of the doomed


CooLDoG,
Fate-Meddling Fatecop
, ended night 1

It is now day 2. With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!
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Post Post #333 (isolation #17) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:57 am

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Votecount 5: And That's A Wrap!



TheLonging (5): xRECKONERx, Katsuki, Smargaret, Parama, Gandalf

Not Voting (4): Shadow Dancer, Hiraki, Plum, TheLonging


LYNCH!

Seriously you guys... like... yeah...
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Post Post #334 (isolation #18) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:59 am

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How they managed to make it this far is and will remain a mystery.
What has been shown however, is that meddling in the affairs of Fate has a very steep price...


TheLonging,
Fate-Meddling Goon
, lynched day 2


And with this, the
TOWN
wins... already!



roles and actions coming...
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Post Post #341 (isolation #19) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:05 am

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dramonic wrote:
Welcome to Fates Mafia, xRECKONERx

You are
Lachesis
(Cop)


You are the second of the Fates. You are the apportioner, and the one who decide destinies. You measure the thread of life with your rod. You and your sisters Clotho (
Shadow Dancer
, doc) and Atropos (
Plum
, vig) are infuriated some people have been toying with your roles and killing people, so you've decided to take matters in your own hands.

-You may vote and post freely
-You and your sisters don't have threads, but can still be targetted by actions not executed by Fates.
-Every night, you may touch someone's thread with your rod to see their alignment (AKA investigate them). Result will be either innocent or meddling in your affairs.
-You may not communicate with your sisters at night, so don't.
-Being in direct contact with the threads, you know who was targetted before having to submit your action, although you don't know the actions done, by who and if one of your sister has yet to action.

You win when the ones meddling with fate are no more.
dramonic wrote:
Welcome to Fates Mafia, Plum

You are
Atropos
(Vigilante)


You are the third of the Fates. You are the inevitable, and the one who end lives. You cut the thread of life with your abhorred shears. You and your sisters Clotho (
Shadow Dancer,
doc) and Lachesis (
xRECKONERx
, cop) are infuriated some people have been toying with your roles and killing people, so you've decided to take matters in your own hands.

-You may vote and post freely
-You and your sisters don't have threads, but can still be targetted by actions not executed by Fates.
-Every night, you may cut someone's thread with your shears, killing them (AKA vig them).
-You may not communicate with your sisters at night, so don't.
-Being in direct contact with the threads, you know who was targetted before having to submit your action, although you don't know the actions done, by who and if one of your sister has yet to action.

You win when the ones meddling with fate are no more.
dramonic wrote:
Welcome to Fates Mafia, Shadow Dancer

You are
Clotho
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You are the first of the Fates. You control birth and life's beginning. Using your spindle and distaff, you create the threads of life. You and your sisters Lachesis (
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Plum
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-You may vote and post freely
-You and your sisters don't have threads, but can still be targetted by actions not executed by Fates.
-Every night, you may use your spindle and distaff to lenghten someone's thread (AKA protect them for the night).
-You may not communicate with your sisters at night, so don't.
-Being in direct contact with the threads, you know who was targetted before having to submit your action, although you don't know the actions done, by who and if one of your sister has yet to action.

You win when the ones meddling with fate are no more.
dramonic wrote:
Welcome to Fates Mafia, Parama

You are a
Vanilla Townie (Townie)


One day you heard in the street about people mysteriously dying. Worried, you locked yourself in your house, which kept you safe... but now there are only twelve of you left.

-You may vote and post freely. That is your only ability, so use it well.

You win when all threats to the town are dead.
dramonic wrote:
Welcome to Fates Mafia, Katsuki

You are a
Vanilla Townie (Townie)


One day you heard in the street about people mysteriously dying. Worried, you locked yourself in your house, which kept you safe... but now there are only twelve of you left.

-You may vote and post freely. That is your only ability, so use it well.

You win when all threats to the town are dead.
dramonic wrote:
Welcome to Fates Mafia, Gandalf5166

You are a
Vanilla Townie (Townie)


One day you heard in the street about people mysteriously dying. Worried, you locked yourself in your house, which kept you safe... but now there are only twelve of you left.

-You may vote and post freely. That is your only ability, so use it well.

You win when all threats to the town are dead.
dramonic wrote:
Welcome to Fates Mafia, Smargaret

You are a
Vanilla Townie (Townie)


One day you heard in the street about people mysteriously dying. Worried, you locked yourself in your house, which kept you safe... but now there are only twelve of you left.

-You may vote and post freely. That is your only ability, so use it well.

You win when all threats to the town are dead.
dramonic wrote:
Welcome to Fates Mafia, Hiraki

You are a
Vanilla Townie (Townie)


One day you heard in the street about people mysteriously dying. Worried, you locked yourself in your house, which kept you safe... but now there are only twelve of you left.

-You may vote and post freely. That is your only ability, so use it well.

You win when all threats to the town are dead.
dramonic wrote:
Welcome to Fates Mafia, TheLonging

You are a
Fate-Meddler
(Mafia Goon)


One day, you and
CooLDoG
(Mafia Fatecop) convinced yourselves that killing people sounded like a thrill, but now there are only 12 of you left... And the Fates are pissed. Well, you and your partners
CooLDoG
(Mafia Fatecop) should be okay if you kill them too, right?

-You may vote and post freely
-You may communicate with your fellow goon at night about who to kill.

Here is your QT:

You win when only the fate-meddlers remain.
dramonic wrote:
Welcome to Fates Mafia, CooLDoG

You are a
Fate-Meddler
(Mafia Fatecop)


One day you and
TheLonging
(goon) convinced yourselves that killing people sounded like a thrill, but now there are only 12 of you left... And the real Fates are pissed. Well, you and your partners
TheLonging
(Goon) should be okay if you kill them too, right? You studied the enemy too, so you might be able to spot them!

-You may vote and post freely
-You may communicate with your fellow goon at night about who to kill.
-Every night, you may PM me the name of a player you’ll analyze (rolecop). I’ll either return to you “You’ve spotted a Fate!” or “This person isn’t a Fate...”

Here is your QT:

You win when only the fate-meddlers remain.
dramonic wrote:
Welcome to Fates Mafia, Exe

You are
Hera
(Action-Immune Goddess Lover)


You are the wife and sister of Zeus. You have descended to earth along with your step-sister Persephone
(Chronopie)
to judge the humans, unsatisfied with how the Fates are doing their job. After all Zeus keeps finding mortals to impregnate! As such, you'll lead everyone to be killed just in case. You refuse however to soil your hands.

-You may vote and post freely
-You are immuned to all actions. Fates targetting you will be vanillaized, others will simply miss.
-You and Persephone
(Chronopie)
are linked like lovers. If humans loses faith in one goddess (lynch her), they instantly lose faith in the other too.
-You do not possess a kill

Here is your QT:

You win when only you and Persephone are alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
dramonic wrote:
Welcome to Fates Mafia, Chronopie

You are
Persephone
(Action-Immune Goddess Lover)


You are the wife of Hades. You have descended to earth along with your step-sister Hera
(Exe)
to judge the humans, unsatisfied with how the Fates are doing their job. Being an unforgiving deity, you want to kill the innocents as punishment for being so gullible, not just the Fates. Well, you want to, but you won't soil your hand, that's too barbaric.

-You may vote and post freely
-You are immuned to all actions. Fates targetting you will be vanillaized, others will simply miss.
-You and Hera
(Exe)
are linked like lovers. If humans loses faith in one goddess (lynch her), they instantly lose faith in the other too.
-You do not possess a kill

Here is your QT:

You win when only you and Hera are alive.


NIGHT 1 ACTIONS:


TheLonging kills Parama
CooLDoG inspects xRECKONERx

xRECKONERx inspects TheLonging
Plum kills CoolDoG
Shadow Dancer protects Parama
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Post Post #346 (isolation #20) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:12 am

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So...

Mafia got raped thoroughly!

The Goddesses were immune to any and all action, with the extra benefit of vanillaizing the Fates if they were targetted by one of their actions, but did not possess a kill.
The Fate-Meddlers had a kill and a Fatecop to find the Fates. Keeping in mind the town PR had absolutely no way of knowing they were being targetted or protect themselves from kill, I think it was mostly fair.

Of course, that supposes the Lovers don't get lynched day 1, Mafia shot and investigated during the following night...

Perfect Town win, quite amazing!
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Post Post #347 (isolation #21) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:15 am

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xRECKONERx's 52 wrote: People who should eat rope: Exe, CooLDoG, Chronopie.
People who might need to eat rope eventually: Shadow Dancer
(his buddy, distancing)
, TheLonging, Hiraki.
seriously...
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Post Post #350 (isolation #22) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:18 am

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FIFTY-FUCKIN-TWO!
WE'VE BEEN OUT OF RVS FOR 18 POSTS, FFS 0_0
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Post Post #359 (isolation #23) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:36 am

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BTW, Goddess would win any endgame with ambiguous setting (like 2 scum vs 2 goddess)
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Post Post #419 (isolation #24) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:14 pm

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Chronopie wrote:The Fates knew, before they submitted their actions, just who was the Scum Kill, Given the Thread mechanic. (well it could have been the Fatecop investigation, but w/e)

Roles: VT's, Fates, Goddesses. Therefore, the only ones actioning before the Fates are... The scum. Therefore The Doc has a
high
chance of successfully protecting the NK target. (understatement). Also, anyone targeted before the Fates get to action is immediately cleared of being scum.
I should clarify some more.
As said in the rules, the Fates don't have a QT for one thing.

Also, they had a specific preset actionning order (that's in the rules too)

The cop actionned first, then the vig, then the doc.

Case A: A fate is targetted for a kill.
The doc cant protect a fellow Fate, so she'll just die. Also, low chance to block the vig kill

Case B: No fate is targetted for the kill.
The doc has to choose who of 4 players is the scum target. If he mischooses, he might block the vig. THere's also a chance he vanillaize himself.

Also, the Fate could theorically claim and direct the town, but then they'd get picked off one by one. The odds of no-kill/lynch/vanillaization happening on the Fate is fairly slim.
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Post Post #420 (isolation #25) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:17 pm

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Gammagooey wrote:The scum lovers were pretty unbalanced even if they hadn't played terrible though, if town lynched regular scum d1 and d2 even if the maf killed a Fate the lovers would be screwed by process of elimination and not having a kill.
2 Fates, 3 Townies, 2 Lovers

I don't see the screwed by PoE =S
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Post Post #421 (isolation #26) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:19 pm

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Also, the vanillaizing wasn't to HELP the lovers, it was to somewhat WEAKEN then

investigation-immune BP SK is the most horribly broken thing ever, even if they dont have a kill, just an opinion.


EDIT: actually I see the screwed by PoE suddenly XD
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Post Post #422 (isolation #27) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:21 pm

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Herodotus wrote:At that point, since they're outed, they may as well direct the lynch, and maybe even coordinate the other fates' next night actions. But you aren't likely to be wagoned to claim when 2 townies know you're town.
Well, that can backfire quite bad, since when you see three players who are never voting one another and know there are three QTless masons in the game you can connect the dots as scum.

Frankly, I think if the day had lasted more than 1,5h the scum could've probably shot down Fates each night.
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Post Post #423 (isolation #28) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:27 pm

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Overall, the point was experimenting with all the town PRs being impossible to protect, though I guess giving them cross-confirmation was too big a boost.

Fun fact: In the original setup, there was only one scum team of three players. The third was Persephone, action-immune GF and lover to the town role Hera, AIT lover. She could not perform the mafia kill and would win as an absolute usurper lover after everyone but Hera was offed.
After consideration I noticed 90% or so of my non-open run games had absolute usurpers and scrapped that idea since I wanted to go for something new and avoid mod-metaing.
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Post Post #426 (isolation #29) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:46 pm

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other fun fact

Alphabet, CEBM, OoT (with Reck mlove <3) and This game all have ridiculously fast beginnings.

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