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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:42 pm

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Alright, here's the thing, your points aren't. They are obfuscated in this wall of meandering, so even if you have a point, it's lost.

If you could restate each of your points with bullets, I'd be more receptive to answering them, if they exist.

One bullet per point, no meandering, no games. What the hell are you trying to say?

As for Zodiark, I'm still trying to figure him out. Your point sounds like my initial reasoning, but you haven't moved past it yet like the rest of us have. While I see your point I still say there's enough incongruity so we need more data.
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:45 pm

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Ah I see.
The question is why I'm not targetting you. I actually haven't reviewed your posts. Zod stood out and I'm going to try to focus on him.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:46 pm

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I don't feel like re-typing what I already have for you. Read my posts and ask for clarifications.
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:48 pm

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But you've also jabbed at Spyrex and LambdaDelta, who are guilty of much the same things I am. But you focus on them without a thought to me. That's odd.

@Carrot cut: Then you're of no use to me. I've read your posts. I have no idea what the hell you are saying. I DO know that you aren't answering Lambda's questions. Nor do you have any reasoning for doing so. Logical reasoning rather. Your latests posts don't even try to defend yourself, merely use numbers to scare us, which is really a rather terrible defense. I'd like to think maybe, just maybe, you just post in a bad way that obfuscates your points, and if you put everything out clearly things will make sense. Your refusal to do so does not assist you.

Also, this should have gone with the last post.

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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:50 pm

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I'll get to what Carrot has just said in a second, but first.

UK, what the hell was town thinking? You got role-copped N1, and basically outed D2, and yet (with the aid of a rather unfortunate ModKill) you didn't get lynched.

Great play on your part, massive fail by town. But I can't help but feel that Riceball was robbed of a win in that game.

Anyway, next post is back on-topic to this game, but I just thought I'd share that, after I read your whole game.

Also, I have a much better idea on UK's meta now.
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:50 pm

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WHAT QUESTIONS NEED ANSWERING

bullet points plz.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:54 pm

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To be fair, that's rather old meta Lambda :P. And yeah, I got lucky, but I was still able to utilize it. I personally like my second inquisitor victory better. It was less dramatic but I never even got touched.

And, no, Riceball wasn't robbed of jack shit. He is a detriment to ANY team he is on, and a displeasure to play with. He doesn't play mafia, he plays idiocy.

Quite simply, he should have claimed rolecop the minute he had the read and gotten me lynched before I got momentum.

@CArrotcake: The main things I want you to do is A) Restate your position on flavor
B) Restate your cases on Lambda and SpyreX, and anyone else you have a case on
C) State why we should lynch you from a behavioral perspective.

Is that clear enough? I reserve the right to add to this but I can't think of anything immediately.
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:58 pm

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Carrotcake wrote:If you want in on the talk kitty, tackle my points directly. Don't dance around them.

Yes. - Please talk about it. You have no authority, so you pretty have to come up with reasoning. Rather than leave raw words.
What questions?

If I may, I'm tired of this. Allow me to clarify.

UK has stated that she is unclear on your points.
It is impossible for UK to tackle your points if she cannot understand them.
You have in the past complained of being misrep'd.
If you do not want to be misunderstood, you MUST clarify your posts.
It is anti-town to refuse to make your points into a clear bullet form list.
It is anti-town to refuse to answer questions.
Taking our arguments, and throwing them back at us does not disprove our original points on you.


And, for much lol'z:

As long as you continue to do what you are doing right now, I have only one statement that is relevant for you.

"You are incompetent!"


I hope those red truths clear things up for you Carrot. You can ignore the last one if you want. That was just to be funny (and make UK laugh).
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:00 pm

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And yes, this has reached a point where I'm throwing down the red truths.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:00 pm

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I hope you enjoyed my wall of red after I won TRADTiMM. That was fun.

I ended up using red truth in quite a few games after that because it was so much fun.

To be honest, when I saw you were playing, Lambda, I was half hoping we'd run into a disagreement so we could make this the most colorful mafia game ever :P.
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:04 pm

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To be honest, when I saw you were playing, Lambda, I was half hoping we'd run into a disagreement so we could make this the most colorful mafia game ever :P.

The game is still young UK. Don't be so sure we won't end up dueling truths.

I know drench would /in for that.
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:06 pm

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True. Well, we'll see what comes in the future.

Also, I am flabbergasted that I DIDN'T have
You are incompetent!
in my victory list. I could have SWORN I did.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:09 pm

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I noticed that you didn't.

So I decided to sneak one in here.

Anyway, back to Carrot... oh wait, he's disappeared again.

Can we push him to L-1, so he can claim, and we can move on?
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:12 pm

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To be fair a solid bullet point takes some time. So I wouldn't be so quick to accuse him of disappearing. Yet.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:17 pm

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I'm so done with "fair" on Carrot.

I have
THE TOWN HAS given ample opportunity for Carrot to do something with his posts.
Earlier, I requested that he specify questions he wanted answered, and outline them clearly.
Carrotcake refused.


So fine, I'm still willing to see his points (assuming they even exist), but in the mean time, I would still like to see him put on L-1.
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:19 pm

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That's fine, no objections here.

I'm probably overthinking anyway.
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:22 pm

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UK has stated that she is unclear on your points.
It is impossible for UK to tackle your points if she cannot understand them.
You have in the past complained of being misrep'd.
If you do not want to be misunderstood, you MUST clarify your posts.
It is anti-town to refuse to make your points into a clear bullet form list.
It is anti-town to refuse to answer questions.
Taking our arguments, and throwing them back at us does not disprove our original points on you.
None of those tie me as scum
.Most of the misunderstanding from my posts come from the incompetence one the person reading it. If you want something clarified, bring it up. I'm not going to retype.

You sure have a lot of principles. Weak players use principles. Tailor them to this game.

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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:25 pm

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We have devolved into personal attacks, instead of actual points. Fabulous.
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:27 pm

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Is that truly your answer carrot? How is it pro town for you to be willfully misunderstood? Even if the person reading it is "incompetent", is it not pro town to clarify so that you aren't mislynched, as you claim this will be? What do you gain by insulting us and refusing to comply with reasonable requests?
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:28 pm

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Simplifications don't work for you spyrex. I can come to accept my lynch, but used simple math to highlight the staggering lack of preparation for the likely outcome.
Exactly.
I never said we should do X.
I said we should discuss doing X.

Is it so hard to believe, that people bring up topics they may not agree in, in the interests of creating discussion.
"OHH IT WAS LOL REACTIONS AND TRAP SPRUNG NOW doesn't change anything."
Why?
Why doesn't it change anythign.
Are you implying that creating reactions on day one, is without merit.
Actually, you went "9/12 chance I'm town" which is placing a variable on a constant (even if we don't know it). That line is just a not so clever rephrasing of
statistically
, I'm town.

Which is junk.

And you're still holding to "Thoughts on a flavor claim?" didn't have the
implication
that you actually wanted a flavor claim?

Again, if right now I went "Thoughts on lynching UK?" what is the implication? WHAT IS IT? (Hint: the obvious response would be "What? You're not even voting UK?")

And LOL, REACTIONS and TRAP SPRUNG don't change anything (in regards to your alignment)

(which is scum)

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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:28 pm

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SpyreX just claimed manager. Obvscum :V.
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:29 pm

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Carrotcake wrote:
UK has stated that she is unclear on your points.
It is impossible for UK to tackle your points if she cannot understand them.
You have in the past complained of being misrep'd.
If you do not want to be misunderstood, you MUST clarify your posts.
It is anti-town to refuse to make your points into a clear bullet form list.
It is anti-town to refuse to answer questions.
Taking our arguments, and throwing them back at us does not disprove our original points on you.
None of those tie me as scum
.Most of the misunderstanding from my posts come from the incompetence one the person reading it. If you want something clarified, bring it up. I'm not going to retype.

You sure have a lot of principles. Weak players use principles. Tailor them to this game.

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First off, you are not one with Access to the red truth.
I, Lambdadelta, Witch of Certainty, am one who has that right.
(Kidding here, but only moderately so :P)

Secondly,
it is the will of a large number of players that you do this favor for us, and get your points organized. The town should not have to tailor to the wishes of one player.


Thirdly,
You continue to refuse anything we ask of you about your arguments. You dodged UK's request that you state your case on SpyreX and myself.


I can infer only one thing from this continued refusal (baring the possibility that
You are incompetent
) @UK: Dammit, I did it again xD

You have no evidence or case against either SpyreX or myself!


This level of reasoning is possible for
Erika Furude
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:30 pm

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Is manager a role ever?

What would it do? Its it like a governor?

(BTW I didn't even get into "Sorry kitten, you didn't seem important." / "I haven't read your posts")
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:32 pm

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...LambdaDelta, why the fuck weren't you in my Umineko Game awhile back? I even had an Erika Furudo role. Who had a post restriction requiring them to end cases with "This level of reasoning is possible for <playername>."

(You probably hadn't signed up for MS by then but still!)

@Spy: the manager is a person alluded to in at least the first arc of Higurashi. Considering that's as far as I've gotten so far...:V.

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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:36 pm

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UncertainKitten wrote:...LambdaDelta, why the fuck weren't you in my Umineko Game awhile back? I even had an Erika Furudo role. Who
had a post restriction requiring them to end cases with "This level of reasoning is possible for <playername>."


(You probably hadn't signed up for MS by then but still!)

@Spy: the manager is a person alluded to in at least the first arc of Higurashi. Considering that's as far as I've gotten so far...:V.

Well, gotten in the VN, recently.

Bolded part makes me smile.

Fact I missed an Umineko game makes me Sad Face.

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