Mini 1085: Higurashi Mafia Game Over!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

/confrim

There are many people here who can confirm flavor for you all.

Drench and I are 2 people I know of... (considering Drench showed my brother who showed me etc.)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ATTENTION:

Anyone who has not seen this series should do so NOW. Not because it's required for the game. No. Because it's just that fucking epic.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Season 3 was an OVA.

Except Dice Killing... which was... just ignore it. It's not worth the effort to explain. xD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Drench, Me, Exilon, TheLonging, Zazier.

DAMN, we have a lot of fans

Dont forget Rena!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The anime is epic in it's own right.

However,

The VN is always infinitely better by definition.

If you own it, read it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I managed to get my hands on them at one point... but only for a bit.

I would like to have them again XD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Expect me to use this at least ONCE this game.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

/confirming
I love Higurashi too. It's the pokemon with purple wings right?

Vote: Tumescence

Don't be comparin' Pokemon to Higu.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I was waiting for the Miyo Takano vote to come.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

True friends help others hide the bodies. ^_^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That's what I'm talking about <3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Lamba, telling us that you are going to use that later on takes away some of the magic when you finally do use it.

Vote: Lady Lambdadelta

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'll get us going with some questions:

1. What is your experience level? -how many games have you played in?
2. Do you agree with Lynch All Liars?
3. Do you agree with Lynch all Lurkers?
4. What would you do as scum at L-1 to try and shift the lynch away from you?
5. When do you find it appropriate to hammer someone?

My own answers:

1. This is my 8th game, the 2nd one on this site.
2. Depends. Lying is generally anti-town but I've seen a few games were a town lie helped the town.
3. No. Inactivity rarely determines alignment (but "active lurking" is a different story. When someone hangs around the thread alot but never posts any real content, this is a scumtell.)
4. I find that fake-scumhunting and suggesting a new lynch target doesn't work that well, it's usually seen as deflecting. I find alot of it is attitude, getting angry instead of depressed, providing a reasonable explanation for your behavior, and just voting for the next best lynch most of the time (that might be seen as scummy, but really thats would I would do as town. Town would rather lynch an unknown than a confirmed town (themselves).
5. Examples of when I would hammer are: a. When I am positive they are scum b. when it's not LyLo and they are the scummiest of the only viable lynch options

1. Dunno. X_X
2. No.
3. Not quite.
4. Uh... At L-1? Shift the blame on to Someone else? Maybe someone who had lied or lurked
5. L-1. Claim. Believe? Y/N. If N, hammer.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Can I ask why CityofA's is doing this though? It's not particularly useful evidence.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The questions are role-indepenent. So it seems to be more of a getting-to-know-you more than anything.

This, more than anything, explains why we get so little from this? The answers you post, may not be how you play. If you go back to this later in the game and say "You said NO to Lynch all Liars question, yet you are insistant on lynching Liar A, even though he explained why he lied! That's a contradiction!" etc.

It doesn't work like that. My opinion on these questions is just one of a general view point. It's not what I would use in every situation, regardless of my allignment. Just because I say "No" in the questions, doesn't mean I won't do it for other reasons later on.

My point being, succinctly, that using this as evidence is rather pointless. And if we can't use it as evidence, we're wasting our time on it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm thinking that Miyo Takano is obv scum, if she's around, she's a scum.

I have a feeling Hanyuu and Rika are lovers. If one dies, so does other etc.

I'd hate to see Rika die... She's probably like "baker" role. 2 days after her death, town loses, unless all scum are dead.

I'm thinking Dr. Irie and Detective Ooishi are probs players.

Shion's probably a vig.

Satoko lays traps... Maybe a PGO?

The problem is... I can give a power for all these roles... But none can be confirmed inno except Rika and Hanyuu. That's an immediate inno claim.

I have a feeling that at least ONE of Keiichi/Shion/Mion is a scum.

Satoshi is probably in the game... And Satoko might be reflexive scum, dependant on Satoshi's death.

Actually, Shion is probably reflexive scum based off Satoshi's death.

Should I continue? None of this is really useful. It's just speculation, but I'm willing to share my specs with those who ask...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Note that Rena said in her opening post that she could be scum. If this is bastard, I wouldn't rule it out. It's Rena Ryuguu after all xD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Uh... What difference will it make asking as players keep their role names hidden?

It might actually help give us an idea of what kind of setup we can expect to have.

But, in any case, I'll refrain if you wish.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

-sigh-

Nevermind... That was stupid.

Sorry.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Generally it'll give more information to the scum than the town, rather helpful information. I don't want to elaborate but will if pressed.

No need. I came to that conclusion about 10 seconds after I posted why I did it >.<

I'm just looking for some kind of lead outisde of using RVS/RQS.

But you are right in saying that this isn't the way to go about it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Question 4 can be taken as WIFOM, if you expect that if someone was scum in that situation, using what they answer the question with to determine their guilt at L-1. That would be WIFOM, and that's what I expect TL meant?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think the questions are pointless to be quite honest, but I also see no pro-town reason to NOT answer them.

I'll support UK in her request to see you answer these questions. Please do, if it's not too much trouble. ^_^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK OF A FLAVOR CLAIM?

UNVOTE: VOTE: Carrotcake

That's what I think of it. Right after I was being really idiotic, and posted a lot of flavor info, you want to have us all claim our role flavors? What pro-town motivation can come from having everyone claim role name and flavor? If there is any, please enlighten me. As of right now, the only motivation I can see is scum wanting to know what kind of town roles they're up against. What I did was stupid. What you're doing is blatant rolefishing, and scummy.

More votes here please.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

May I ask what insight into the "character" of a player will do for you in a game?

Protip: The answer begins with "It doesn't do anything".

On another note, why are you so adamant in defending CityofA's RQS statement? It's weird.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Or, alternatively, you could not avoid the questions, and answer them now.

What pro-town motivation does Flavor claiming have?
Why are you defending CoA's RQS post so adamantly?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Good job of NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS.

EITHER OF THEM.

Instead using the "I'll let someone else answer you" at the end of your post.

Give me a break. This is the lynch for today guys.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Just so I'm clear. You've now told me HOW you defended CityofA, but not WHY... Avoided that question.

And you've told me you don't like me. That's awesome. And relevent to the point at hand... How?

You completely dodged the "How is flavor claiming pro-town" question.

So, do you want to try again? Maybe this time you can answer the questions clearly, instead of throwing up walls of BS?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I would change my vote for you, if it wasn't already there. I answered one of your questions, inluding why. Re-read, or learn to read and then re-read. You must have a selective reading problem. You would have picked up on the role-fishing isse too if you were a bit sharper. Go go go, push the speedlynch anyways.

So what you're saying is that you would OMGUS my vote, if you had not already RVS'd me.

Yah, you're really not helping yourself here.

Also, I'm the one bringing up points against you, that you REFUSE to answer to.

If you think I'm scummy, please make a case. Right now, all you're doing is saying that "I'm gonna vote you, because you don't agree with me and you think I'm scummy."

Note that you have STILL refused for a third time to answer EITHER of my questions. Could it be that you don't like how your answers would sound? Could it be that answering my questions would show people how scummy you are? If I'm doing "selective reading" as you claim, then prove my questions invalid, and answer them. But I don't think you can.

So, for the 4th time:

What pro-town motivation can come from asking for a flavor claim?
Why are you so adamant in defending CityofA's RQS?

I'm more interested in the first one than the second one, but I want to see both.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And maybe I need to clarify for you. What I mean by the second question is "Why aren't you letting CityofA defend his own posts?"

I hope that clears it up.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@Lambda: OMGUS is a silly concept and a buzz word.

I couldn't think of another way to express the point >.<

I could try saying "You are saying that you would vote me, simply because I voted you, if you had not already RVS'd me?"

Is that any better?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If you think I'm scummy, please make a case. Right now, all you're doing is saying that "I'm gonna vote you, because you don't agree with me and you think I'm scummy."

I asked for kinda the same here. The second part is biased slightly, due to it being me he's throwing this vote at, but the point is the same.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

He's done nothing but refuse for me. I hope he responds to you. It will be infinitely more helpful to town if he responds.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Zodiark, what do you think of Carrotcake and his refusal to answer to the points raised by me (as seen above)?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

My point being, succinctly, that using this as evidence is rather pointless. And if we can't use it as evidence, we're wasting our time on it.

There is a HUGE difference between 'evidence' and 'a case'.

However, there is information to be had all over. I said I'd hammer even without a claim and not a peep.

I said this? o_o I don't remember that.

He's confused. I remember that because I'm the one who said it, not you.

P-Edit: UK, he's posted a list of "reasons why people disagree with Flavor Analysis". He carried himself in that post as someone who knew what they were talking about.

So either he was blowing out his ass, or he has /some/ kind of experience.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Don't get me wrong UK. I would rather have him answer the questions too... but I'm pointing out that from his posts, it's rather unlikely that he has so little experience, as to make that mistake.

I'm not truly calling for a lynch, I'm calling for pressure. He's scummy enough (new or not) for me that I would like to see him answer my questions. He refuses to do so without pressure apparently, according to this:

I'll let this sit for a while. I want a lot of people involved. Though someone else will probably answer you anways.

I make it fairly obvious I have an older account. And actually, I think join date/post amount here does matter.

If you've played off site, you should very well know the style of play here is different. Some things are acceptable in other places that'd never fly here, and vice versa.

What I'm trying to determine if it's one of those or if he's, as LL says, blowing out his ass.

She's right in saying this TL. I've had some recent experience with certain tells that I've used off-site, that people shot down and deemed ridiculous. Contrastingly, I had never heard of RVS until I got here, and in the first game I played (halted due to mod error) I had some serious pressure applied to me, due to questioning RVS. So I can see where UK is coming from.

However, that doesn't mean I don't want to see him pressured and answer my damn questions. xD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

As for his scumminess, I think that I need my requests answered before I can

certainly determine his intent. I'm sure you know a lot about certainty, right?

Oh you.

But yes, I'll agree to that. If his explanation is sufficient that I can believe his intentions, I will remove my vote. I'm not going to tunnel him to the gallows UK.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I know players that would .

Would this person happen to speak in an excessive amount of Caps, and have a name that rhymes with Mate, Date, Late and Ate?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

He can? Damn.

Not what I've been seeing LOL. It's all "my way, or you're fucking dead" with him.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

-takes notes-

Interesting...

While we wait for Carrotcake to return: I went back through Higurashi/ Higurashi Kai last night.

I know for a fact that Rena/Haylen has never read the VN, so I think everything in this game will be based off the anime. If you haven't watched it in a while, I suggest doing so UK.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Heh. Ooishi kicks ass.

Seriously though, I'm pretty sure Drench won this thread earlier with "I'll hammer like

mario

Mion

Shion".

Props if you get the second joke inside a joke.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Good UK. -hands a cookie-

[Lady Lambdadelta]

SSSSSHHHH!

Don't say that so loud! She might think you're helping the aliens!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I want him to answer my questions, so I can either formulate the full case on him, or believe him, and focus on other suspects.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I believe I explained that as a momentary lapse of judgement on my part. I thought it might help town in some way to have a rough guess of what roles could be scum/in the game etc.

Then I realized how stupid that was >.<

And even after I get chided, and I admitted that this was a mistake on my part, Carrotcake comes in and asks for role names from everyone.

That's what caught my attention. I made the mistake already... So how can someone public male that mistake a second time without having an intent to do so?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If you have answered in any way shape or form the question of "How is Flavor claiming pro-town?" please show me.

Other wise, you've just refused to answer my question.

AGAIN.

Also, trying to shift the blame onto Zodiark doesn't make you look more pro-town.

Also, you told me to stop "insulting you". (Which incidentaly, I never did) I'm sorry, but isn't calling Zodiark a troll and telling him to go get some friends just that? Pot, meet kettle.

Final note: You're still asking to have people claim roles! Seriously? We said it's a bad idea, so enough!

@UK: Have you seen enough? Another refusal by him to answer the question.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Do some research? To find out you dislike RVS, and that your tastes are even worth researching? Hahaha. How self centered can you possibly be, troll?

Go and make more friends.

Like that?

And you did ask for a Flavor claim! >.< why are you backtracking now?

What pro-town motivation can come from a flavor claim? <--- for the sixth time

I said it's just for the pressure because, guess what? I'm not going to tunnel on you. I voted you for a reason. If you could satisfy my question, I'd unvote you. You refuse, my vote remains.

Also, can you stop asking 15 questions, and answer my 1 that you've avoided forever?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Are you fucking serious?

Did you seriously just post a fucking wall of questions, expect me to get all of them in one post, and when I miss one, use the same thing I've been presuring you for? You're unbelievable. Stop wasting everyones time and start being useful FFS!

How will a flavor claim instantly win us the game when scum has fake claims that are prepared by the mod?

What pro-town motivation does flavor claiming have?

P-Edit: You're asking people "what does everyone think of a flavor claim?" that means that you support it. Don't deny that you support it, because you just said "a flavor claim could win us the game instantly".

So, my point is still valid. Also, the question I'm asking remains independant of this.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

BTW, generally, people put quotation marks around other peoples words to, shock, QUOTE THEM.

Sorry that I CBA to use the quote function every time I want to show that you've said something.

Your deflecting at Zodiark when you avoid the points I make, and instead attack him, with no base other than "you're a troll".

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I've now answered all your questions. Because unlike you, I'm not afraid to have questions asked of me because I'm town.

And you, who refuses to give me a straight answer, are scumming it up.

Now answer my question. 1 line. 1 post. No other shit mixed in.

What pro-town motivation comes from a flavor claim?

If you think you've already answered this, go back, find what you said, quote it and post it!

Thank you!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, before you say "you're avoiding my question!"

If I missed a question, repost it on it's own, and make it clear you want it answered.

I'll then answer it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I've never seen a mod that hasn't done this. UK, along with others who have nodded before, can back me up on this.

So no, the answers not because I'm scum. It's a general rule.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

A flavor claim might win us the game, instantly. The question is for you guys though. You want a discussion, then answer it.

This is what I'm referencing when I say he supports a flavor claim.

P-edit: thank you Drench for making my point much more succinct.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Drench wants to believe that a miracle can occur.

But I don't see Bern in this game.. Just Lambda.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Despite my username, I love Bern more than I do Lambda.

It's just Lambda reflects me more than Bern does.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

http://www.mafiascum.net/archive/viewto ... 1fdc605496

Look at this game in the archives.

Guess who was strangled Night 1?

Looks like CarrotCake has had some experience prior to the site's move.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

In that mess of confusion, I can't find anything legitimate.

Carrotcake, if you have a Legit question you want answered, post it alone in one post, and not 5 straight posts.

However, I'm going to LOL at Carrot saying this was a Gambit to draw out scum.

The gambit was apparently that ONLY

SCUM

WOULD BE AFRAID OF A FLAVOR CLAIM.

That's just inherently wrong. Scum would love to see a flavor claim. Gives them tons of info.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Note: Carrotcake is @ L-2.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Would it be considered taking it too far if I responded to that with:

What pro-town motivation can come from shooting Carrot in the face?

And then expecting you to answer?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Please stop avoiding the question UK. I would like to know the answer.

(Spyrex, I'm just messing around. I'm fairly sure UK is too. Or I hope so LOL)

P-Edit: Yah, I was playing along.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I was just making a point about the question that Carrot had refused to answer:

"What pro-town motivation does flavor claiming have?"

And I was just making a joke based off that.

Though, UK's right. I may be friends with all of you... But in this game, you can't trust anyone.

Though, for the most part, I have a strong town read on UK and Drench, followed by Spyrex.

P-edit: You can tack CityofA's vote on the end of Carrot's wagon SpyreX

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, the "Stop avoiding the question UK" was a reference to when he kept repeating that line in his posts. xD

P-Edit: I know. My syntax is weird. I have a tendancy to put too much into a post when I'm not paying attention.

Like, or the first half I'll be sarcastic, and then I'll get serious, forgetting that I was using sarcasm.

My bad.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

CityofA's vote was suspicious to me. Like... He wanted to disassociate himself from Carrot(especially after Carrot had defended his RQS so hardcore).

If I were a betting woman, I'd go after him if Carrot flips scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I didn't like how Zodiark tried to halt the lynch.

I mean, if carrot flips town, I see no scum motivation in it. Just a paranoid townie.

But if carrot flips SCUM, and especially a scum with some kind of power... I'd be very interested to hear why Zodiark was so intent on not lynching him.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

In other news, town just won StrangerCoug's Worst Nightmare.

Which means I won my first game on the site (baring the one where SC had to halt due to mod error).

Good times

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Nah. Wasn't that unbalanced.

It's just that Antihero got a day vig ability and shot 3 of the 4 scum.

The other scum died at the hands of the Town JOAT, who randomly selected a box to give to mafia member, which had a kill inside.

P-Edit: I stopped using the PR for the most part TL. I would have kept using it, but it was a pain in the ass. I use it every now and again though, when I feel like it xD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

When I am forming a really long wall post, I'll use red to outline facts given to us, and blue to outline my theories. It makes it easier to read that way.

Otherwise, it's useless in a short post.

About Zodiark: if he "knew carrot was town", why would he suddenly have a change of heart and OK his lynch?

P-edit: 1)Link me 2)LOL, you fake claimed BEATRICE? That's just going from the frying pan and into the fire, no?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

5) Papa Zito, Light Yagami (from Death Note), Mafia Infiltrator, Clawed His Own Throat Out Night 1

K. Was that you spreading Hinamizawa sydrome?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What's up with all the Modkills?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'll get to what Carrot has just said in a second, but first.

UK, what the hell was town thinking? You got role-copped N1, and basically outed D2, and yet (with the aid of a rather unfortunate ModKill) you didn't get lynched.

Great play on your part, massive fail by town. But I can't help but feel that Riceball was robbed of a win in that game.

Anyway, next post is back on-topic to this game, but I just thought I'd share that, after I read your whole game.

Also, I have a much better idea on UK's meta now.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If you want in on the talk kitty, tackle my points directly. Don't dance around them.

Yes. - Please talk about it. You have no authority, so you pretty have to come up with reasoning. Rather than leave raw words.
What questions?

If I may, I'm tired of this. Allow me to clarify.

UK has stated that she is unclear on your points.
It is impossible for UK to tackle your points if she cannot understand them.
You have in the past complained of being misrep'd.
If you do not want to be misunderstood, you MUST clarify your posts.
It is anti-town to refuse to make your points into a clear bullet form list.
It is anti-town to refuse to answer questions.
Taking our arguments, and throwing them back at us does not disprove our original points on you.

And, for much lol'z:

As long as you continue to do what you are doing right now, I have only one statement that is relevant for you.

"You are incompetent!"

I hope those red truths clear things up for you Carrot. You can ignore the last one if you want. That was just to be funny (and make UK laugh).

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And yes, this has reached a point where I'm throwing down the red truths.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

To be honest, when I saw you were playing, Lambda, I was half hoping we'd run into a disagreement so we could make this the most colorful mafia game ever .

The game is still young UK. Don't be so sure we won't end up dueling truths.

I know drench would /in for that.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I noticed that you didn't.

So I decided to sneak one in here.

Anyway, back to Carrot... oh wait, he's disappeared again.

Can we push him to L-1, so he can claim, and we can move on?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm so done with "fair" on Carrot.

I have

THE TOWN HAS given ample opportunity for Carrot to do something with his posts.
Earlier, I requested that he specify questions he wanted answered, and outline them clearly.
Carrotcake refused.

So fine, I'm still willing to see his points (assuming they even exist), but in the mean time, I would still like to see him put on L-1.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

UK has stated that she is unclear on your points.
It is impossible for UK to tackle your points if she cannot understand them.
You have in the past complained of being misrep'd.
If you do not want to be misunderstood, you MUST clarify your posts.
It is anti-town to refuse to make your points into a clear bullet form list.
It is anti-town to refuse to answer questions.
Taking our arguments, and throwing them back at us does not disprove our original points on you.

None of those tie me as scum

.Most of the misunderstanding from my posts come from the incompetence one the person reading it. If you want something clarified, bring it up. I'm not going to retype.

You sure have a lot of principles. Weak players use principles. Tailor them to this game.

C

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ARE FUN

First off, you are not one with Access to the red truth.

I, Lambdadelta, Witch of Certainty, am one who has that right.

(Kidding here, but only moderately so )

Secondly,

it is the will of a large number of players that you do this favor for us, and get your points organized. The town should not have to tailor to the wishes of one player.

Thirdly,

You continue to refuse anything we ask of you about your arguments. You dodged UK's request that you state your case on SpyreX and myself.

I can infer only one thing from this continued refusal (baring the possibility that

You are incompetent

) @UK: Dammit, I did it again xD

You have no evidence or case against either SpyreX or myself!

This level of reasoning is possible for

Erika Furude

Lambdadelta.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

...LambdaDelta, why the fuck weren't you in my Umineko Game awhile back? I even had an Erika Furudo role. Who

had a post restriction requiring them to end cases with "This level of reasoning is possible for <playername>."

(You probably hadn't signed up for MS by then but still!)

@Spy: the manager is a person alluded to in at least the first arc of Higurashi. Considering that's as far as I've gotten so far...:V.

Well, gotten in the VN, recently.

Bolded part makes me smile.

Fact I missed an Umineko game makes me Sad Face.

Why is Carrotcake still alive?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

8. magnus_orion, Ushiromiya Eva,

Child Abuse

Mafia Demoralizer, has been moved to a deadly kakera N1

You sure the bolded part wasn't meant for Rosa?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

"Child Abuse Mafia Faction"

Priceless. Pure fucking GOLD.

Ok. Full claim thanks. Then we can lynch you because I'm NOT buying the Watcher claim for 1 second.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm thinking the PR had something to do with that. xD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

But Beatrice's red truths combined with Erika confirmed did.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

On a more serious note, if Carrotcake just left instead of full claiming... Gah. >.<

P-Edit: oh, so that's what that meant. Yeah, you're right.

Why in heavens name did Kairyuu self vote?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't feel like full claiming. Why don't you people just kill me right now?

This can be arranged. Refusal to claim @ L-1. Waiting for Rena to provide fake claim?

Who wants to hammer?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Zodiark is online, and is not already on Carrot.

Zodiark, would you mind doing the honors?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You're gonna get yourself banned from all BaM ruleset mafias dude >.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Uh... Is there even a case on this? Or is this a quick lynch based on something else?

I'm so confused. >.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

He is scum

For clairification, this is what has me confused.

Is this a serious red truth? Or are you just fooling around.

If you're using that Red Truth seriously, confirm that for me, and I'll vote him.

P-edit: your most recent post answers my question for me, I guess.

Vote: Zodiark

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ok then! I have a strong enough town read on you (coupled with the fact that this would be a stupid gambit for scum), to follow you on this.


Either way, town catches a scum.

More votes on Zodiark guys! Thanks!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ok, so now all your soft claiming is making me curious dammit!

>.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't actually.

He was useless to town.(Even with his watcher role >.<)

He didn't help anything, and acted in an anti-town way.

I'd go as far as to call him a VI... Maybe.

Do I regret losing the player slot? Yah, a bit. Ooishi would have been useful.

But I don't miss his play style >.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like your searching for something...

Something deep inside...

Or, You know, it could be a harmless question ^_^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Maybe I'm too soft, but I'd like there are.

You can have fun while playing, right?

I had fun talking to you about that Miyo Takano game you played.

Is there some kind of hidden meaning in my questions there?

Maybe I'm trying to see if you're Miyo Takano again this time

[Lady Lambdadelta]

But, in anycase, I certainly think the question came out of nowhere.

That's the only weird thing about it for me ATM.

P-Edit: Don't get me wrong. I'm watching carefully.

I want to win this game badly.

I can say that regardless of alignment.

But seing as I know I'm town, I am willing to take any advice from people, and apply it to my play in this game. Obviously, not taking all advice at face value, due to obvious circumstances.

I just want to play well. This is a game with a flavor I really enjoy, and I'm motivated.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Eh. I talk more than I should. I just like to converse with players in game. Get a feel of who they are, rather than just a player slot. If I have nothing to discuss, I'll often let my mind wander in game. And that's when I do stupid things, because I try too hard to start conversation. See: The flavor shit I posted early in the game.

I really should learn to rectify this :S

P-Edit: I feel no remorse when killing someone. I am a witch after all!

By the way UK: I have something for you.

Knox's 2nd: It is forbidden to solve the case through supernatual means!

Your red truth is knocked down... Anything to say? Or have you stopped thinking?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

As you wish. Take as long as you like! We have

an eternity

a week!

I wonder if I should use Knox's Decalogue more often.

And damn it if "I would have a counter of pressed" doesn't pique my interest.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Did anyone else notice that in Rena's OP, there are 2 lists of dead people? One for those spirited away, and one for those who are just plain dead?

Just noting this for later... In case something shows up. Because this could be useful.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Note: That's L-1 folks.

Don't be hammering without a Zodiark claim.

Can he quote PM's in this game? If so, please do. If not, I want a full claim of abilities and role name. Thanks.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That's a lynch.

inb4 locked topic gogogo.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Rena forgot to lock the topic >.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have an interesting piece of information that could potentially make or break your claim.

I need to know though: Do you believe Miyo Takano to be part of the mafia?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

By this, I mean, doyou think the character Miyo Takano would be mafia alligned?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I guarentee that Miyo Takano is not alligned with the mafia.

I have role-related info that confirms Miyo Takano as a serial killer.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I can't explain that. All I know is the following:

Miyo Takano appears to be an SK(she can't be anything else. If you push me, I'll elaborate).
This means there is a mafia group outside the Miyo Takano control.

This leads to two thoughts:

If you are telling the truth: Then either Takano or Mafia has the ability to make people kill for them. I'm assuming Hinamizawa shots.

If you are lying: I'm assuming a Sonozaki family mafia here. 2/3 scums, Mion, Shion, Kasai(if only 2, leave Kasai out).

I cannot account for the lack of kills. I could make a theory, but my info only stretches to what is above.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Maybe I should elaborate my role a little. It would help greatly I think.

Do you want to understand where I'm drawing my info from?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Would you object to me revealing my role name?

I think that might help you a lot...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Screw it. I'm posting my role name.

I am Frederica Bernstakel.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: UK

Leaving it here, in case of Sonozaki mafia. For now.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Wrong Account Haylen-chan

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have two problems with your vote CoA.

Firstly, your claim is weird. Suddenly outing yourself as a ONE-SHOT RB, and telling us that you HAPPENED to target UK. It's all too convenient. TBH, I would only see you claiming this if you were a Mafia RBer, and wanted to further frame UK.

Secondly, I've been thinking. There is no one, and I mean, NO ONE, who I can think of, that would fit your role claim flavor wise. I /MIGHT/ understand if you said you were a complete RB. Like, you could use it more than once. But the One-Shot thing makes it near impossible.

So

FoS: CityofA's

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Interesting...

That flavor is correct... but not something you couldn't have learned (thanks to my stupidity).

I said in chat that Satoko was known for laying traps. This could easily be a formulated fake claim.

I still don't like it. And I don't see how a trap=RB.

IGMEOY

P-Edit: UK, remember when I posted all that flavor shit? Satoko's traps was in there.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I didn't say chat did I? >.<

I did. Great.

I meant thread. Topic. Game. Whatever. You know what I meant.

I'm too damn tired. :@

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh, so that's what you meant.

I was /wondering/ why you focused in on that.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Possibility: Does anyone else think that maybe the scum faction hasn't been created yet?

Rather, that scum can't kill until a certain counterpart dies?

This would make sense of the lack of kills (the N1 kill being performed by Miyo Takano).

Really and honestly, I'm trying to understand the lack of deaths in this game so far. RB's and doctors are fine and dandy, but that can't account for 3 out of four factional kills MISSING.

1 out of 2, I could understand. But 3/4 is beyond that.

By no means is this to be taken as a solid theory, based on facts. I'm speculating. Trying to think of ways in which the facts presented work out.

If you take an Occam's Razor approach, we just lynch UK and that should be the end of it. Simplest Explanation.

But this is a bastard mod, so I'm thinking maybe outside the box is better. If we are to believe UK, there is already some kind of faction that can make other people kill for them. This alone makes me think that even my wildest theories are plausible.

It is my belief that we will get the furthest with this line of thought. We need to understand what is happening to stop these night kills (if they exist ATM).

[Lady Lambdadelta]

OH! Another possibility! Perhaps ONLY Rena could kill for the SK, and without Rena, the SK actually loses their kill.

You're forgetting that I have name verified this SK for you, as Miyo Takano. (Assuming you believe that)

That flavor doesn't match.

At this point... my role would suggest the SK as compulsive, UK. /softclaim

So... there HAD to be something stopping Takano last night. Mafia could for go their kill... but why? If they really were aiming to gun you down as the lynch today, they'd be able to do it with or without having killed someone. Them making a kill doesn't affect how I would see your allignment.

So.... considering this, I'm still lost.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also...how can you have a compulsive SK in a game where if a night action isn't sent in, it's lost?

I'm probably wrong about this... but from what I've read, doesn't think go down as the mod randomizing a kill for the player?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I've had enough of this.

I'm calling for a wagon on UK.

I'm not going to be the one who let someone lead a quick lynch on a townie, and then not make them pay for it, only to find out they were scum later in the game.

This claim UK pulled out of nowhere about the "Enemy Mine" ability seems a LITTLE too rehearsed for my liking. Almost like she set up for this situation. She was prepared.

I don't buy it. I want to lynch her, if only to see if this ability is even out there.

But mainly because I find her way of worming out of being lynched a little too rehearsed.

More votes on her please. If you are legit town, I'm sorry UK. You're our best lead, and I'm not going to be the fool who let the

Neutral Inquisitor

Mafia Goon escape.

TL, that City vote is really pointless. I am certain that if UK isn't scum, he is. We'll be able to get him tomorrow. But UK is the lynch for today.

Drench, now is the time to vote her please. Don't hem and haw. She wants you to vote her, show her you're not afraid to do it.

All other town: Vote, thanks. More activity, thanks.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@UK: I tried to find something else to go on. I really did. No matter how I look at it, you look scummy to me, in 95% of scenarios.

The other 5%, lynching you is still our best option.

The lylo tommorow is easily solved with a CoA lynch. If it even comes. And if I'm right, it won't.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You forget there is a SK.

Likely, someone's getting killed from an anti-town faction.

Also, I pray that Haylen would give us more than a watcher and a tracker(if you are town) to fight back.

We'll manage.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You say this with the assumption you flip town.

I don't think you will.

But assuming you do, we still have a better chance at winning than if we lynched Tumenessence or CityofA for example.

On that note: Exilon, would you mind getting off the lurker? He's not doing anything, which could be scummy... But we have bigger problems.

I'm comfortable taking the risk that you might flip town.

But I doubt it?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That's all that's left to do, I suppose.

I pray town makes the right choice here.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

How is my info incorrect?

Lying scum is lying?

I read your post as saying that you know Miyo Takano cannot be SK, because she's Mafia.

That's awesome, because your absolutely right.

I lied. About everything. I was hoping someone would come out and object to Miyo Takano being an SK. The only way you can disprove it, is if you know she's mafia (or you are Miyo Takano).

I placed my vote on you today, not because of the lynch yesterday, but because you seemed to have some kind of hidden reservation about Miyo Takano SK.

You proved me right UK.

I won't be full claiming, since Bern's not even my role. No do I think she'd even be in this GAME. I only used her because I knew she had a connection to Takano.


So now, we have one confirmed scum, and we know that Miyo Takano is in the game and is another scum.

I think I've done my job here ^_^.

What do you think everyone? KIHIHIHIHihi- eh, I'll stop now. Dx

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Was I? I didn't intend to. All I know is that Miyo Takano is NOT the SK. So therefore LL is lying and should be lynched after you confirm I'm a mafia tracker, by lynching me.

You're right. I was lying.

About all of it. To catch you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You get a free lynch.

Protect your other members of your scum group for a round.

Create lylo.

Remove the most active player in the game.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Do it then.

Also, feeling TL as UK's scum buddy JSYK.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It's Mostly gut.

The way you responded the UK's post was weird.

Ignoring your vote for her, considering that mafia would vote her too.

But the way you are presenting your case against me Is weird. You didn't weigh in on it, you just decided that I'm next, as per a mafia's wishes.

Also, I don't really care if it's your policy. If you can't be flexible when it comes to your policy, then you're useless to town anyway.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm looking at another semi-active player as third scum too... Maybe Exilon? IDK :S that's a toss up for me.

But I'm getting the vibe from TL.

Also, UK, if you wanna self hammer, that's fine.

I claimed what I claimed to out a scum, and that's what I've done.

If town feels that I need to be lynched for that, so be it.

It would be a shame though... Putting then @ lylo/mylo because they felt I had to be lynched.

Waste.

P-Edit: I'm the SK? Nah. See, I only claimed there was an SK, BECAUSE you did that tracker thing. I had no idea if there was even one. I was actually hoping there wouldn't be one, so that it would make things much simpler.

If you want the SK, you should be looking at people like City.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I enjoy how you have done nothing but slander me in this.

You've substantiated no evidence. All you've done is claim scum, and say "She must be SK, because I claimed Scum!"

So, because you say I'm SK, I must be... Just because you're claimed scum? Yah, right.

Also, I see a scum. Yah, I'd like a hammer. See, why would I draw out a day in which we have claimed scum, who wants to poison the minds of remaining town?

All you are attempting to do, is ensure that your 2 remaining scum buddies have a chance (I'm assuming there are 2).

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think that the following is possible:

1) You think, incorrectly, that I am SK.
2) You already know who the SK is, and can kill them when you please with a mafia kill.
3) You pulled a stunt yesterday, got town to Quick Lynch and then use your plan to claim Mafia Tracker today, to frame someone as SK. (in this case, you never got a report on Zod. You are probably tracker, but you can still fake a report)

I will full claim tommorow if needed.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Uh... Let's assume for a second that you're not full of shi, and that I /am/ an SK. How would it be pathetic for me to play to my wincon?

Back to the reality. Nothing I've suggested is impossible. What's silly is that you assume people must think you're telling the truth? Just because you claimed scum? Yah... That's about the worst strategy I've ever heard.

Oh and UK? There's really no need for this to continue. This convo is done, because I've has enough of you resorting to AtE("you think I'm stupid Lambda?") and then go for personal attacks like the one in your last post.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You realize they were just possible outcomes right? By no means am I saying "LOL YOU TARGETTED ME".

I stopped caring when you inferred I was incompetent UK.

It's a game. Treat it as one. I let myself enjoy talking to you too much, and that's why that last comment hurt.

I'll know better.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm withdrawing from the current topic. Neither of us is gonna budge, so it's useless to afrue at each other.

I don't mind talking to you though.

More likely than not, I'll see you in the dead thread.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If I'm SK.

But, we will see

[Lady Lambdadelta]

True this.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Tume... >.<

You realize UK claimed scum right?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Scummy scum is scummy-

Oh wait.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What else is left to say?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

UK, at this point, I'm authorizing a self hammer :S

Seriously, Drench, TL, Tum, etc. Get your votes on UL, before this day ends in no lynch.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh you UK.

You know, I wish we were on the same side this game. Nothing would have stopped us. Considering no one else posts in this game

It's too bad that I'm town and you're scum (see, I can do it too )

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I was referring to where I mentioned I was town, which you conviniently ignored.

See, because I'm town, I don't need to worry about your antics.

Because I'm town, it'll all be ok.

See, cause I'm town... I'm town.

Did I mention that I was town?

Just thought I'd let you know

I'm Town

<3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

How about this?

Knox's 2nd: It is forbidden to use supernatural means to solve the case.
Knox's 8th: It is forbidden to use evidence not PRESENTED to solve the case.

I'd be breaking both those :/

Sorry about that

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If I was claiming SK, I'd do it like you did.

With style. -puts on Kamina shades-

Knox makes everything more fun.

My favorite is his 5th, where no Chinaman can be the culprit.

Best rule ever.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yep. For obvious reasons.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I just realized.

If you die, who am I gonna talk to about this stuff?

Shit! I take it back! Don't lynch her! ;(

Nah, I'm kidding. But seriously, who's gonna talk to me in this game xD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Noted.

I wonder how I'm gonna convince town that you're a liar tommorow? Dx

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cause you've painted my SK portrait for the past 4 pages xD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You've avoided answers, to keep that "I haven't lied" personna

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'll be using THAT line tommorow xD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

On another note, trying out a new Avvy. Like? Y/N

[Lady Lambdadelta]

She stabs herself seven times.

You now go and count.

EVERY LAST ONE.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/96856963/4291448

What do you think of that UK?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am gonna use this current one for the moment.

You should use this one. It's more you I think.

If and when I choose a new avvy, it'll probably be more kawaii and less Yandere.

You should def use this one if you want it ^_^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

OMG :3

It's so sugoi!

I like our new avvies

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Don't disagree. The kamina glasses added a whole new level to that.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Well.... I believe I called that one folks.

Now, to deal with some issues.

Vote: Tume

Can you explain to me what you were waiting for yesterday when hammering UK?

Because, you hammered UK awkwardly yesterday. You didn't give much a reason for waiting, and then once you did vote, it was because "no one had anything to say"?

IMHO, you were waiting for instructions from UK. You wanted to extend the day, so that you'd have a chance at getting info on what to do today.

Also, it's a shame TheLonging died... He was obv scum. :S

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Another problem: The kill flavors mean MORE than just lynched and NK'd now.

Exilon's death is proof of this.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Drench-kun ;_;

Take your time.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Drench... I'm very close to using the Hanyuu pick again.

But yay, you're fixed ^_^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fair enough...

But IGMEOY Drench. I am worried about how you defended UK's actions. It's the same thing TL did, and it's why I found him to be obv scum.

But as of now, you're still my top town read (mainly based on the fact no one else posts xD), so I'll let it slide.

Just don't reference UK's posts when making cases on me. She, by self admission, said that she was conceling things because "that's what scum does". Co-incidentally, scum lies too... It's a null point to use her arguments, so I'd like to avoid them.

On the other hand, the Carrot vote was pre-emptive, but would have been removes had he answered my questions.

Note: when you say "I've been on every wagon so far" you're forgetting something. Day 2 wagon was a quick lynch led by UK, and day 3 wagon was UK claiming scum.

Only vote that has any evidence on it is Carrots. If you seriously think I'm SK, I suggest you draw info from there. It's the only legitimate source.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That's L-1 yo.

Don't hammer until Tume responds....

And Claims....

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@ Rena:

Please Prod CityofA and Tumenessence.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Um, If you were scum, you would want to get info on how to proceed with your next move, before she dies.

Um... I believe that claim more than you would imagine actually...

Unvote

Can anyone confirm this claim? Also, are you mason or neighbors?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

In other words, if someone wants to come out and claim Furude Hanyuu, that'd be great.

Cause even if they are neighbors, and not masons, I'm seeing very little chance that one is scum without the other.

And with 2 scum dead, the chance that they are both scum is nil IMO.

So... I want to see a claim, so we can confirm you, and move on to a new target.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hauuu Auuuu~

Neighbors who want to lynch eachother? :S

With no more than 1 scum left?

I have SERIOUS doubts about the scum coming out of a Rika/Hanyuu neighborhood (which I called BTW ;P)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

OK, done with DnD, and there's virtually no chance I'm surviving this day.

I am Mion Sonozaki, mafia tracker.

Now why would I claim scum?

Because Lady LambdaDelta is your SK

She's lying about Miyo Takano. To be honest I've had a feeling it was her since yesterday, but her behavior today confirms it. There are other possibilities, but they are unlikely.

Further, I didn't lie about my track results at all. There is someone who uses Enemy Mine. That's why City was pretty fucking wrong.

So, while I may have sounded rehearsed, I still was telling the truth through much of today.

So, what you good townies will do is lynch me after you've done all your talkity shit. Then tomorrow, you are going to lynch Lady LambdaDelta so you don't have to worry about prisoner's dilemma shenanigans.

Also, I applaud you all. The majority of you were willing to do the correct play. Even if I had been town you'd be right to lynch me.

LL, you might as well full claim, since I'm VERY curious about your...information which is quite incorrect.

Unvote, Vote Lady LL

Pointless, but might as well ^-^.

Remember this?

This is PROOF that neither HANYUU OR RIKA can be scum!

Why?

Because UK claimed that Miyo Takano was a mafia member.

She claimed mafia, and

FLIPPED SCUM.

She said she KNEW that Miyo Takano could NOT be SK.

The only way she can confirm this, given her role, is if

MIYO TAKANO IS THE THIRD MAFIA.

Also, just a notice: Okonogi, a USURPER.

Okonogi is the person who worked UNDER Miyo Takano, as head of the Yaminazu.

Thus,

this provides even more conclusive evidence that the last scum must be Miyo Takano.

This is where my Gambit last round pays off. We now know that the 2 confirmed character roles of Hanyuu and Rika (Tume and Spyrex)

CANNOT BE MAFIA.

In other words, they are

CONFIRMED TOWN.

Everyone voting Tume

UNVOTE NOW, OR BE LYNCHED.

This level of reasoning is possible for me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So, how does everyone feel about that?

2 cleared town, in a game with 6 players remaining?

Pretty good odds... even if there is an SK remaining...

Which reminds me. While Spyrex and Tume are now confirmed as not mafia,

that does not mean one of them isn't SK.

To be more precise, Tume or SpyreX may still be third party alligned, but it is impossible that they are mafia.

I hope this leads into more... relevant discussion.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That is possibly the WORST argument I have ever seen?

Drench, UK tunneled me into the ground after claiming scum. That's a null read.

What is not a null read is that she claimed Miyo Takano was a mafia, and not SK

That's FACT.

Sorry, but this combined with all the other shit you've done is too much.

Vote: Drench

This is the play for today guys. I just confirmed 2 town, and he shot it down with a elusive and idiotic argument.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, I know as scum it must be hard for you to allow 2 confirmed townies.

Seriously, Drench has a lot of scum points.

Buddying with UK.
Focusing today's lynch to ONLY include me or tume (I'll quote the post if you want it)
Trying to discredit two confirmed town (well, except sk, but you know what I mean)
Intentionally blurring the difference between UK's case on me and UK's scum claim. One is a basis of fact, the other was a smear campaign. One is red truth, the other is blue.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, <3 Nikanor ^_^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

First off: You're not dodging the fact that this is OMGUS by saying "you may call this OMGUS". Not gonna fly. I may call it that because it is.

Secondly: who's doing backflips? We're you the one who just discredited my Tume/SpyreX/Takano post, and kept your vote on tume for that? So what's with this "Because Tume is no longer a possibility" shit? You're agreeing with me that Tume is obv town now?

Contradiction, Drenchy. <3

Thirdly, where we you leaning UK scum? When you threw out a bunch of percentages, but NEVER VOTED FOR HER? Yah, that's a ringing endorsment of your "town play".

Fourthly, you could easily have made a case for CityofA scum. You simply chose to focus on the two easiest targets (as set up by TL and UK the previous day).

Fifthly, What is this "I never discredited them" shit? You were just saying "my vote is staying on Tume!" the SECOND I take away my "town read" on you, you immediatly attack me, instead of sticking to your original plan. Scum.

Sixthly, the difference between the citations on UK's posts are as follows: your citation was her speculating, and slandering.
My citation was a red truth claim. Fact. So unless she lied (in which case your Lambda=SK case is dead in the water), This is a fact. Not a theory.

Think that answers everything Drenchy-kun <3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, I like how your whole case is now based upon my "contradiction".

That's all it CAN be based upon, because that's what changed your vote from Tume right?

It wasn't anything to do with MY vote, right?

Also, the more you argue my guilt, you have to accept that my theory on SpyreX and Tume is correct. Which in turn invalidates your claim about it being contradictory.

Choose a path Drench. You're playing both. Either one is a BAD END anyway. Because you are scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Lady λδ*

DON'T BE GOIN HELPIN TAKANO AND COME BACK EXPECTIN SYMPATHY YA LITTLE

*haha bilingual bonus

Also, (this is a joke) I want you to be scum so I can see the sweet irony in this opening post/rvs by you ^_^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Which Blue Haired Girl?

Becareful when trusting those blue haired bitches. They lie a lot apparently.

I'll address the rest of your points tommorow when I'm not falling asleep at my computer ^_^

P-Edit: Uh, I'll tell him. I think he's re-watching Angel Beats, to prepare for Angel Beats season 2... >.<

P-edit-edit: Flaming Popcorn, Drench.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I very much enjoy how my gambit worked out this way. I knew that having Miyo Takano outed as a mafia role would help us somehow ^_^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ok, I really don't have that much more to say.

I want to know a few things:

First off, if you agreed with my theory from the start, why did you continue to vote Tume? Essentially, if you believed him to be obv town, why remain voting him? (The reason I chose to focus my pressure on you is mostly this BTW)

Secondly, why didn't you vote UK when you said you found her scummy? I have problems buying this "I didn't vote because I wasn't sure" crap. To me it reads more as "I didn't vote because I wasn't sure how much trouble UK was in yet". Like you were still holding out hope to save your scum buddy. Co-incidentally, not long after that exchange with UK, she decides to claim scum. May be co-incidence, but I find it interesting?

Finally, I don't like how you're being so firm UK's posts. There are parts of her claim that are facts, and parts that are slander. If you can't tell the difference, then I'm really worried for you. I mean, it would be different if I went and said "UK was slandering me all yesterday, and she is a flipped scum. Scum lie, so she must be lying about her SK case herp derp." I wouldn't do that because that's subjective. What's not subjective is the claim she posted, and how she claimed that Miyo Takano was mafia. That was the basis of her case against me. She would not have come out and said that if it wasn't the truth. That's the difference. I have problems with you using this as a scum tell.

Anyway, that's all I have left to say.

Also, if you want a case of CityofA, just look at his activity, over the 4 days. He came out strong day 1, and has lurked into day 4.

It's weird. Either you/he or Nik HAVE to be scum ( I assume there's only one left), and on my list right now, you and he are at the top, while I'm holding out for how Nik starts playing before I get a read on him.

You're just the only person available to get a read off of right now, and that's probably why you seem so scummy to me -shrug-. It's not that you are overly scum, it's that the other two aren't... (because they don't exist right now xD)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Lynching is the wrong word Drench.

Pressuring is better.

Running you up to the gallows is better still.

But I don't want you lynched until I see Nik post and City post.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Lynching is the wrong word Drench.

Pressuring is better.

Running you up to the gallows is better still.

But I don't want you lynched until I see Nik post and City post.

WHY CAN'T YOU JUST AGREE WITH ME FOR ONCE

NO COVERING YOUR BODY IN HONEY AND LICKING IT OFF FOR YOU TODAY*

*

nipah~

Hauuuuu Auuuuu~

No! Please! I'll be good, Nyaa~!

[Seriously though, the whole point of this is to see your reactions so I can make cases against you. What reactions would I get if I agree with you all the time ]

Drenchy won't play with me anymore, nyaa~

[Ok, that made me almost physically ill to write, but you started it with your "nipah~"]

[Lady Lambdadelta]

EBWOP: Physically ill, not because it's drench, but because even /I/ have my limits on how far Japan goes.

P-Edit: Drench, do you want to grab the Trap Twins and post them here? >.<

ITT: Drench and I become bored and go WAY off topic ;_;

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Physically ill, not because it's drench,

i never knew you felt that way <3

<3

Ok, but seriously? More Nikanor and City thanks.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That's ok Nik ^^

At least you're trying

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Drench is also the homosex IIRC.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Drench is also the homosex IIRC.

*slap*

bisex-except-not-the-bisex-reck-'was'-before-he-forsake-the-pussy

there is a difference

So I see.

I should throw in a nanodesu~ here, but I won't.

And LOL Reck.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LOLCITYOFA

Oh, wait. Never mind.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cool.

Nikanor for SK if there is one.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Or, actually...

I trust that UK was being earnest with her posts following her scumclaim.

What is this, I don't even.

You trust a scummy scum? After they claimed? Are you mad?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I would support a massclaim today, actually.

If you want the flavor of who could be "spiriting away" people, that would be Oyashiro-sama. Better known as Hanyuu.

I think Drench has answered questions sufficiently enough to earn a pass for now.

Debating whether to vote Nikanor or CoA at this point...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

EBWOP: meant to

Unvote: Drench

there

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Deadline is in 5 hours. Wonderful.

FINE. We have this argument TOMMOROW Nik.

I agree. A CityofA is fine too.

Vote: CityofA

Fucking Deadline lynches...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

PLZPLZPLZPLZPLZ LET DRENCH COME ONLINE

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So, how does everyone feel about that?

2 cleared town, in a game with 6 players remaining?

Pretty good odds... even if there is an SK remaining...

Which reminds me. While Spyrex and Tume are now confirmed as not mafia,

that does not mean one of them isn't SK.

To be more precise, Tume or SpyreX may still be third party alligned, but it is impossible that they are mafia.

I hope this leads into more... relevant discussion.

Notice that I left room for one of them to be SK.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Drench dropped a hammer :3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

We had a reviver?

Oh wow.... @_@

Um, Drench is obv scum. Tune can't be scum, and I know I'm not scum.

Also, a claimed Mafia member essentially claimed for the purpose of outing me as an SK. Highly unlikely I am mafia.

Also, I can claim that I am the vig in this game.

I tried to kill Drench night 2. As you can see, he didn't die. I wasn't role blocked, so I figured one of three things.

Drench was a BP, Drench was Doc saved, Or Drench was scum with an NK immunity.

Day 3 I didn't bother looking for Drench, because UK was public enemy #1.

The way TheLonging played around UK sent warning bells in my head. He said too many things town should never say with a confirmed scum/ tracker claim that had gone wrong.

Shot him Night 3.

Then, Day 4 I wanted to test out Drench. Once I found Tume and SpyreX to be cleared town, I focused more on Drench because ZazieR and CityofA were so inactive.

Enter:Nikanor

He came in and did essentially the same thing I killed TL for.

So... When we were forced into a deadline lynch of CoA... I decided to kill him that night.

Another reason I killed him: I couldn't kill Drench night 2. More likely than not, I wasn't going to be able to kill him Night 4 either.

And now here we stand. There WAS no SK. All those "spirited away" kills are MINE. I am the vig. And because of that, I can confirm Tume as 100% clear, and thus Drench is 100% town.

I want a mass claim now.

As you can see, I am the Vig. My role name is infact Frederika Bernkastle. That is where the "spirited away" flavor comes from. People thinking that I am Oohashiro-sama. I am here to help town win, and create a miracle in Rokkenjima.

Vote: Drench

Tume, this should be GG for town. Don't fuck this up. Drench HAS to be scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

EBWOP:

And now here we stand. There WAS no SK. All those "spirited away" kills are MINE. I am the vig. And because of that, I can confirm Tume as 100% clear, and thus Drench is 100%

scum.

Bolded is fixed from town to scum xD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@ Rena:

Please prod Tume. We need him here for final day. If he doesn't come, can I request a replacement rather than a ModKill? Final day, modkilling Tume would hand victory to

Drench

scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Frickin' crazy ass mother of a game.

I honestly cannot believe that I did this well at all. I'm going to count it to luck. I'm probably lucky that my read on TL was correct. Lucky that UK claimed scum, cause I was getting ready to believe her. I thought my gambit was shit... I also thought Exilon was scum for the longest time. Lucky that Mafia killed him, because I would have wasted a shot on him. Lucky. That's all I can describe it as... :S

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Drench, propose a solution where you are NOT mafia.

The SK doesn't exist, right?

So the second kill last night had to be you, as Miyo Takano!

Unless you're claiming that Tume is Miyo Takano, disguised as Rika?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And yea. I do want your claim.

Please and thanks ^_^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Not flavor dude. Miyo Takano is confirmed mafia, by UK.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Drench. We both know where this is going.

With 2 kills last night, there HAS to be another killing role.

I claimed one of them. So is the other killig role you to Tume?

Pro-Tip: unless Tume is a Vig, the only way you can avoid claimng Mafia is ALSo by claiming vig.

So, what is your claim Drench?

Also, please note: if you claim vig, you can't explain how you just confirmed that you couldn't be night killed n2.

So, Drench: ACCOUNT FOR THE SECOND KILL.

P-Edit:

Drench commits logic error!

He claims a NON-KILLING ROLE.

So, now unless Rika/Tume has the ability to kill someone, you lose! You cannot account for the second kill! My theory DOES!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Drench, I didn't shoot you N4 BTW. I shot Nikanor.

So, lol, explain SpyreX's death.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You can ignore my request all you like!

Doesn't change the fact that YOU CANNOT ACCOUNT for the second kill.

Which means somewhere, there will be a lie. If Tume claims a non-killing role, then one of you is lying. And since Tume is town confirmed, despite what you say, you are the liar!

Now, why don't you get this over with? You and I both know that we can only vote eachother today. It's the only possible play. Either you are scum, or I am. So cut this bullshit, vote me, and let Tume fucking decide who is lying. He is obv town, and we should let him decide between our cases, rather than arguing back and forth on a endless debate.

So either prove that the second kill was possible, and it wasn't by your hand, or just vote me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And honestly, if after you just claimed a non-killing role, when there were 2 kills last night, tume still hands you the victory, I will be very dissapointed.

It's really clear cut why you are scum :S