Mini 255 - RajÔÇÖs Freaktown I (The Beginning)- GAMEOVER

[LyingBrian]

random.org says to

vote: darquiel

P.S. can we please stop spamming other people's threads

[LyingBrian]

i wasn't talking to you, Iammars...

i was talking to the people who are not involved in this game...

[LyingBrian]

is it a post restriction (not really RESTRICTING you, but nevertheless), or are you just role-playing?

[LyingBrian]

on another note, why is it that people always use the Greek sigma (Σ) to represent an "E"? do they think it just looks cooler, or something?

sorry, but it kinda annoys me b/c "Σ" has an "S" sound, not an "E" sound, and the Greek alphabet does have a capital epsilon (Ε)

[LyingBrian]

The picture is. The rest is roleplaying.

i'm going to guess Tim Curry as Long John Silver from "Muppets Treasure Island"

[LyingBrian]

Yup. I just watched the movie yesterday.

And you seem to be good at naming those obscure Disney/Disney-like movies.

And where's the sigma?

while i have seen the movie, i actually recognized Tim Curry the first time i saw the picture (he has a very unique face) & looked up what movies he was in from www.imdb.com (plus, when you go to save the picture, it default saves it as muppets.jpg, so that helped out)

the sigma is in rajrhcpfreak's avatar, it used to have mu, sigma, alpha, tau, (presumably to spell the english word "MEAT"), but he changed the alpha to a christmas tree for the holiday.

[LyingBrian]

@RabidRodents,

i think you might be in the wrong thread, the crazy, nonsensical posts go in PookyMafia2!

[LyingBrian]

so, what do we think, mafia, SK, & vigilante? i don't see 2 mafia families with only 12 people, but still, 3 killing "groups" with 12 people is big, right?

[LyingBrian]

unvote

vote: RangeroftheNorth

does that count as making something happen?!?

[LyingBrian]

Unvote

Cool role. I apologize. I didn't think about the fact that there were only nine people alive before I put on the third vote. I wouldn't have done it if I actually thought before hand.

well that's what makes you seem so scummy. i would think if you were pro-town, that you would review the votes & vote count so as to make sure you weren't placing the lynching vote. scum are more likely to just react than to think about what their doing, IMHO...

[LyingBrian]

unvote

vote: Stewie

[LyingBrian]

****BUMP****

FOS: everybody not posting

[LyingBrian]

unvote

vote: logicticus

[LyingBrian]

almost hit the 48-hour mark! sorry, guys, somehow this thread fell off my watched list!

i do not have a problem with us claiming posting restrictions, seems a good way to catch scum! saying that, i do not have a posting restriction!

vote: RangeroftheNorth

[LyingBrian]

i do not have a problem with us clai

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Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one wit

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splain your weird voting habits, if they're not caused by a restriction?

[LyingBrian]

unvote

vote: RangeroftheNorth

[LyingBrian]

well at least i can claim it was a simul-post!

[LyingBrian]

I guess I'm going to perform the fastest

unvote

in history here, but LyingBrian is acting

WAY TOO WEIRD

.

it was a toss up between that & LyingBrian...

seriously though, what's so weird about voting for RangeroftheNorth?!

[LyingBrian]

What's weird is that you quoted my question about your voting habits, without answering it.

In addition you've changed something in the quote both times you've quoted me now

that's all i'll say!

[LyingBrian]

[LyingBrian]

Darq,

Srory to beat this aroudn so much, but I had one questoin. In one post you say it tells you how many "killers" are out there and in another you say "scum." I just want to confrim with you which one it is. Scum is scum, but killers could be vigs and sks.

As for postign restrcitions, I have to misssssssssspelllllllll five words every post. or be modkilled.

Right now, LyingBrian looks pretty bad to me, but I cant tell if he is just dicking around or not. And RangeroftheNorth has calmed down a bit after it looked like trying to get someone lynched, but his previous actions are still quite suspicious.

besides "dicking" around, do you care to explain why you think i'm "bad"?

[LyingBrian]

meh, sorry guys, i think this is the first time i have been caught lurking, though not intentionally...

for whatever reason, this game keeps falling off my "Watched Topics" list...

@logicticus, yes i was "dicking" around (or "penising" around, or "screwing" around, or "fu$king" around, or "whatever" around, it's all the same thing...) my 1st day anctics are generally pretty crazy, just like BabyJesus, just b/c there is little information to go from... the only response i have is if you truly believe me to be scum, have a vigilante (or even an SK or Mafia, for that matter) target me tonight... you'll see i come up a townie, just like you...

@elvis_knits, what exactly would you like to hear from me... sorry, i just did a quick read to catch up, so, if there is a specific point i need to address, please feel free to bring it to my attention...

[LyingBrian]

i do not have a problem with us clai

m

ing posting restrictions, seems a good way to catch scum! sa

y

ing that, i do not have a posting re

s

tri

c

tion!

Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one wit

h

out a posting res

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r

ic

tion, but care to ec

k

splain your weird voting habits, if they're not caused by a restriction?

in post # 107 i hid this secret message in case this exact situation came up... if you quote that post, you'll see that certain letters are surrounded by the "[color= black]" "[/ color]" tags... these letter do not appear any different, but if you extract just those letters you'll get my answer to Don Gaetano, "

my schtick

"

Unofficial Vote Count

LyingBrian - 2 (darquiel, logicticus)
darquiel - 1 (Stewie)
RangeroftheNorth - 1 (LyingBrian)
Stewie - 1 (Iammars)

mod

, can you confirm if this is correct?

a couple of other things...

@elvis_knits, why am i a ditz if this game fell off my watched topics list?.. i am a very active poster in all of my games, regardless of my role... so b/c i didn't post for a couple of days is not a valid logical argument as to why i am scum... as soon as i got the prod from rajrhcpfreak, i posted to this thread, and have continued to do so...

@everybody, i assume darquiel & Stewie are under suspicion as well? they also have not posted since Tuesday...

mod

i assume you prodded everyone at the same time, right?

@elvis_knits, a role-claim right now would not be helpful for the town...besides, i only have 2 votes against me, and we do need 5 votes for a lynch, it's not whoever has the most votes gets lynched...if you truly know everything like you claim, then you already know i'm clean... right now i agree that RangeroftheNorth has the greatest possibility of being scum, and that's why i doubt my vote will move...

[LyingBrian]

@elvis_knits, well if the scum do speedlynch me, that'll kill 2 birds w/ 1 stone, it will prove my innocence & reveal the scum... the "my schtick" doesn't

prove

anything, it was a hidden answer to Don Gaetano's inquiry... also, it's a meta-game tactic...(of course, now that i've told you it's a meta-game tactic, maybe i won't use it! )





edit: mod fixed his own stupidity error.

[LyingBrian]

@elvis_knits -- you know from experience this is not just a one-game antic... i DO NOT HAVE a post restriction... everything i've done has been of my own free will, i'm trying to judge people's reactions based off my antics... you gunning for me when you know i'm crazy like this in other games raises a red flag in my mind... if you put the 4th vote on me i will claim, but only if you promise to read the thread again before 8:00 p.m. GameDay (this goes for you too, Don Gaetano!)

[LyingBrian]

@Iammars:

are you promising you'll stick around to unvote when you realize the mistake you've made?

[LyingBrian]

well, i doubt you'll be able to confirm me, but here goes...

i am Erika, also known as wysiwyg...

i am currently studying Law @ BostonU, so there is not enough time for anybody to travel to Boston from Kentucky during the night, therefore i cannot be night-killed...

i hinted at this in post # 147...

the only response i have is if you truly believe me to be scum, have a vigilante (or even an SK or Mafia, for that matter) target me tonight... you'll see i come up a townie, just like you...

not sure i understand the importance of "wysiwyg" (what you see is what you get), but maybe somebody who knows rajrchpfreak can enlighten me?!...

[LyingBrian]

i do realize the townie who can't be night-killed is a powerful role, and one of the reasons why i really didn't want to claim! the other reason is there always could be a daykill role out there, so hopefully not... but yeah, whoever the doc is, don't waste your nightchoice on me!

on the bright side, i don't have to worry about any hidden agendas now!

[LyingBrian]

unvote

vote: Don Gaetano

voting for somebody just to get a lynch is not helpful to the town! also, my role is provable! nobody protect me, and somebody target me! if that happens, i can guarantee there will be at most 3 kills tomorrow morning! of course, that does not prove i'm scum or town, just that i did not lie about my ability! maybe the balance to my powerful role is that nobody will believe it?!?

[LyingBrian]

and that's exactly why i will be lynched...

i'm sure anyone else in my situation would understand my unwillingness to claim! if i claim i'm dead b/c the town doesn't believe me (besides Iammars confirming Erika is a student at BostonU, something i would have no knowledge of, unless it was in my role!) i stilll contend that 1 killing group targeting me would be a good idea to test my role, (unless you believe the anti-town roles have 4 kills & a doc protection!)

i am definitely willing to submit myself to as many night-kills as is necessary to confirm my role! anyone who is opposed to this should be under serious suspicion!


P.S. [sarcasm]i'm just a LITTLE bit tipsy, so if this doesn't make sense, i'lll fix it in the morning![/sacrasm]

P.P.S. except for the "fix it in the morning" thing... i willl seriously review this tomorrow morning...

[LyingBrian]

i still waiting to hear an argument against why letting somebody try to kill me tonight is such a bad idea for the town! if you guys really think you can survive 3 or more kills a night w/o a un-nightkillable role, have fun! i don't even want to count this game as a loss b/c the town are such idiots!

[LyingBrian]

sorry, i should've clarified, elvis_knits! i don't think you are an idiot!

i think you are clean, but maybe that's b/c you are one of the few that actually believe me! (maybe that means your scum, b/c the scum would KNOW that i'm a townie!? [unless there are 2 scum groups])

something to keep in the back of my mind!

[LyingBrian]

@Don Gaetano

how do you plan on winning w/ the town if you lynch the only pro-town unnightkillable role? like i said if you think the town can win w/ 3+ kills a night w/o me, then i think your wrong!

[LyingBrian]

this will be my last post before the deadline unfortunately...

i don't like how Don Gaetano is gunning for me! i think he's scum trying to get rid of a powerful townie!

elvis_knits (sorry about that post, Iammars, i told you i was a little tipsy!) has already confirmed Erika does attend BostonU. making me unnightkillable fits with the flavor of the role, and giving anti-town roles 3+ kills & a unnightkillable player seems unbalanced in my mind, so i don't know what else to say! if your town & you WANT to lose, vote for me!

[LyingBrian]

well first things first...

darquiel, how many killers

tried to kill me

left their house?

[LyingBrian]

OH MAN! Thought you guys should know this:

Remember all of LyingBrian's bullshit saying he can't be scum because he hid a message in his posts saying "my schtick"??? Then he said I should defend him because I know he did this in another game we're in? Well, we lynched LB in that game and he CAME UP SCUM. So his dumb messages prove nothing and I feel like a fool for not lynching him yesterday. (Sorry to Don G for being ALL over you!)

LOL

somehow i knew this was going to come up!

if you really think i'm going to start a new schtick and only use that schtick when i'm scum, then i don't know what to say... that makes no sense to me... in fact, i would be ashamed of myself if i made such a huge blunder! i don't know how far the "don't talk about this game outside of this thread" rule goes, but i can give you other games & post #'s where i've done the same thing...so i MUST be scum ALL the time!

this is just a personal schtick that has absolutely nothing to do w/ my role!

P.S. i really don't think you need to apologize to Don Gaetano, elvis_knits... his arguments still have holes, mostly assumptions...

[LyingBrian]

i think she just needs to be prodded....

she has posted to the site recently....

[LyingBrian]

@elvis_knits:

so you really think i'm scum now?!? just b/c i used the same meta-game tactic in that other game that i used in this game?!? that's like saying rajrhcpfreak is scum every time he spams a thread!

[LyingBrian]

@Don Gaetano:

the only hole in your logic IS the assumptions... if this was a normal game, the i would definitely tend to agree w/ you!

the scum killing scum at night hasn't worked so far, it won't necessarily work in the future! the town has at least a 50% chance of hitting an anti-town role IF we lynch!

oh, i just thought of something... if anybody wants to come forward & claim a resurrection ability, then i will sacrifice myself for the lynch!

ok, onto elvis_knits...

RabidRodents posted a picture of a horse & referenced a tumor
RabidRodents posted a picture of a weather map (i think that's what that is!) of Elizabethtown
elvis_knits posted a picture of the movie poster for Elizabethtown (with a picture of a horse in the background [maybe coincidence, maybe not])
elvis_knits posted a picture of a horse (with an disproportionate ummm, member) [this picture was from a website called sillyTOWN.com, maybe a connection]
elvis_knits posted a picture of a MRI (maybe someother body scan, not too medically savvy) referencing a tumor
elvis_knits posted a picture of the skelatal & muscular layout of a horse & its rider

it looks like they have to be posted 1x per RL week, and a couple insights...
except for RabidRodents pictures both pictures have something in common (a horse & the word TOWN) & (skeletal structure of a human)...

i would venture to guess the images are coming from rajrhcpfreak since all 6 pictures are from totally unrelated sights...

so we have 3 common themes: horses, tumor, Elizabethtown... elvis_knits, can you give us any insight, also does anybody else know or figured out the relevance...

[LyingBrian]

ok, thanks for clarifying, so, the skeletal connection in the last 2 pictures & the TOWN connection in the 2 before that was just coincidence?

am i also to understand you can't confirm yourself?!? LOL

[LyingBrian]

another thing the town should think about...

ASSUMING there are 4 townies left... if you lynch me today & we have a repeat of N0, there will be NO town left!

also remember, probably HALF of this town wants to see me lynched, so i would encourage the town to pay close attention to everyone's arguments in case i do get lynched...(if there is anybody left, that is)

[LyingBrian]

ok, halo freak, how many killers left their house last night?...

[LyingBrian]

Personally, I am leaning toward lynching LB. It's not so much that he turned up scum in our other game, but the fact that he wanted to use me to prove he was innocent in both games.

i never said that i wanted you to confirm my innocence, i just asked you to confirm that my shtick was not necessarily an indication of my scumminess...

[LyingBrian]

It's also not an indication of your innocence, so why bring it up at all?

b/c when i originally revealed that i had hidden a message, players started automatically assuming it was an indication of my "scumminess", so i asked you to verify that i was doing it in other games... if i do the same shtick in every game, i can't possibly be scum in every game, so the fact that i hide messages in my post can not be an indication of my scumminess in and of itself...

[LyingBrian]

@Don Gaetano

why is your question so important?...

[LyingBrian]

Just answer the question, please

I agree...answer the question.

i don't like how both of these players are pressing for information...IF i am town like i claim, and IF i have a nightaction, what benefit to the town would it be for me to claim it?... it would make me look that much more powerful & give the scum more ammunition to attack my claim...

i would also like to know WHY the question is so important, Don Gaetano... are you hinting at a nightaction that would allow you to investigate me & see if i perform a nightaction?...

GOS: Don Gaetano

FOS: elvis_knits

[LyingBrian]

meh, i'm going to wait for Don Gaetano to respond to my post before i claim anything... i want to see if he'll give me another, "Just answer the question, please"...

[LyingBrian]

well everyone is convinced that i am scummy, so i might as well ACT the part...

basically a vote for me means you don't believe my claim for whatever reason, and not voting for me means you are trying to look pro-town, take it or leave it!

the reason i don't want to reveal whether or not i have a nightaction, is b/c the person who is asking for this information (Don Gaetano) has not given us any information concerning his role so far... he has acted scummy so far, and i will propose a trade... if you will roleclaim, Don Gaetano, as i have already done, then i will tell you whether or not i have a nightaction...

vote: Don Gaetano

if i am town, then i am a stubborn bitch who doesn't like to see the town be pushed around & goaded...

if i am anti-town, then i made a mistake & will pay for it...

[LyingBrian]

fine, whatever, if you scum want to rule the town, fine with me, it's not like i can win like this anyway....

i have no nightaction...satisfied, SCUM!!!!

i'm getting tired of this game anyway... no one wants to believe me, so why should i even bother?!??????????

if you lynch me, i'll come up Erika, aka WYSIWYG, a student at Boston U studying Law...i can't be nightkilled b/c i live in Boston.... that's the best i can roleclaim w/out quoting my PM motherf***kers!

[LyingBrian]

[channels BabyJesus}

i don't have a nightchoice, GUY! my only flaw is that i can't be nightkilled! not like it will do any good, b/c the stupid town will lynch me anyway!!!!!!!

[/channels BabyJesus]

[LyingBrian]

ummm, sorry about those last 2 posts! that was my Mr. Hyde, and i apologize for his behaviour! i was upset about a couple of other things non game-related, and Chaos & Don Gaetano's posts pushed me over the edge!... again, i apologize!!!

[LyingBrian]

@ halo freak:

last time i tell YOU something in confidence! just kidding, i really don't care!

but if we ban PUI (Posting while Under the Influence)

a) that will cut out at least 1/3 of my posts
b) won't add as much flavor to the game
c) will give us nothing to tease Mackay about!...

[LyingBrian]

@rajrhcpfreak

i LOVE Soul Calibar II!!!

@elvis_knits

i'm most suspicious of Don Gaetano, that's why i'm voting for him...

@everybody else

i understand how hard it must be to accept my claim as true, but look at all the other roles...

besides lynching POSSIBLE scum, i don't see the harm in letting me live at least 1 more day... anybody w/ a nightaction can target me, i've told you everything in my role PM almost word-for-word (i can't quote it, you know) if i was scum, that would be a truly ballsy move IMHO...

also, i realize this is a WIFOM argument, but looking back on my actions in this game, i probably acted overly scummy, b/c i thought my roleclaim would clear me once & for all... sort of a subconscious thing...

like i said before, if you believe me, vote for somebody else, you have 4/7 shot of hitting an anti-town role... if you don't, vote for me, it's that simple!

[LyingBrian]

a) what game console?

b) who's your favorite character?

[LyingBrian]

so which post do you want to keep, RangeroftheNorth?

the one where you forgot to capitalize your F's, or the one where you didn't vote for me... or maybe you'll lose your vote again! that would be a shame!

[LyingBrian]

BTW, self-preservation votes are a pretty good scum tell!

if you are truly pro-town, then you should do what is best for the town, not what is personally best for you!

[LyingBrian]

so, basically, you're not willing to even entertain the idea that i could be telling the truth?!?...

IF i am lynched today, it will be interesting to see how this plays out, when i come up EXACTLY as i claimed...

Don Gaetano, RangeroftheNorth, & others will have serious explaining to do...

[LyingBrian]

it seems a lot of games are stagnating around here, so i'll assume it's the holidays...

@rajrhcpfreak

i have a GameCube as well... my fav character is Link... especially w/ the Megaton Hammer...

i find Raphael one of the harder characters to beat when the computer is controlling him, so i generally use Biggoron's sword to fight him...

[LyingBrian]

i've already explained why i didn't want to say whether or not i had a night action... it was b/c i don't like being bullied around, especially by somebody who just says "Just answer the question!" w/o giving a reason behind the question... i still contend that it would be better for me to be lynched tomorrow instead of today... IF i am a town, there may be someone w/ a nightaction who can verify my claim, or there may be something that happens during the night that helps me...

[LyingBrian]

i wasn't lying...

[LyingBrian]

Then it looks like you just suck.

[sarcasm] i appreciate you not being demeaning to another player... [/sarcasm]

you could have made the same point w/o so much negativity, for example "Then it looks like you need more experience " which i would totally agree with, but there's no need to be mean about it!

it is partly my fault for acting so "scummily", and partly everybody else's fault for not believing my claim!

We'll see when the lynch scene comes up, buster.

yes you will... does anybody see any negative ramifications if i go ahead & quote my role PM? since i'm lynched then i can't be modkilled, right?..

[LyingBrian]

I would be nicer, but I don't appreciate it when players post drunk.

touché

[LyingBrian]

UGH! give me a minute for a quick read-through!

[LyingBrian]

unvote

vote: RangeroftheNorth

[LyingBrian]

w/ 6 seconds to spare! probably won't be a lynch, though, halo freak forgot to unvote!

[LyingBrian]

unvote

don't want to be too hasty!

[LyingBrian]

i'll reread the thread tonight after i get off work, though i don't know if i'll be able to come up w/ anything solid enough to swing 4 other people!...

[LyingBrian]

I pretty much believe LB now too, but I would like to say for the record, that I have seen scum pretend they are not scum during twilight. It gives the other scum a chance to say they believe the dead guy is innocent now, hence making other scum look more innocent.

i'm not sure i understand this logic!?! wouldn't the scum look more suspicious once the death scene was posted and the person they said they believed to be innocent turned up scum?!?

[LyingBrian]

vote: RangeroftheNorth

we have about 10-15 minutes until deadline!

Stewie, Chaos, logicticus, your help is needed...

[LyingBrian]

well, well, well... this is an interesting game to say the least... i like Stewie & Chaos as Mafia, but then again, that's always dangerous when it's down to Lynch-or-Lose...

@Stewie

i understand that you think that my role may break the game, and it's possible that at this point it may... a broken game is not unheard of... everybody IS human & apt to mistakes... for example Eyewitness 1 in The Whole Sort of General Mish-Mash... the only person arguing that the game would be broken if all the information was correct was the person who we were trying to lynch... also if i was scum, why would i claim to be unnightkillable? i would be trying to keep as much information hidden as possible...

vote: Stewie

[LyingBrian]

so has everybody claimed...

[LyingBrian]

BTW, i was reviewing the thread, and one of the people who said that my role would break the game, RangeroftheNorth, came up scum! FYI

[LyingBrian]

also, Stewie was the last to vote for RangeroftheNorth yesterday... it was the 6th vote that wasn't counted in the final vote count, but a pretty safe place to put a vote on your scum partner...

[LyingBrian]

I am a

one-shot

vig.

I figured I would thrust my trusty

spork

into his face and see what happens.

the shadow man

grabs a

spork

out of the nearest trashcan and starts to stab Alex repeatedly with it in the face.

the Shadow Man

attacks him and starts to strangle him with a bra.

The shadow man

...then pours the extra concrete onto Keith’s feet and pushes him into the pool.

we are not going to get any better proof that 1 player is anti-town... if you are truly a one-shot vig, Chaos, how did we have 3 kills N1? also, you admitted to using the weapon attributed to the "shadow man" on N3, yet that specific phrase was used the other 2 nights as seen above... even if the phrase "the shadow man" doesn't refer to the same player each night (which i believe it does), then you still can't explain the 3 kills on N1... i don't believe that you were either one-shot or a vig... i believe you are a SK...

unvote

vote: Chaos

[LyingBrian]

And yeah, I

basically think

know you are SK at this point. I

may

will put my vote on shortly.

fixed

FOS: elvis_knits

how can you ask for a better lead?!?... he still didn't answer my question about N1!?!...

[LyingBrian]

well since it's twilight, i'll go ahead & post my thoughts...

i think there were 4 anti-town roles (2-person Mafia & 2 SK's) if this is correct, there should only be 1 kill tonight theoretically by the word of God...

it is possible for the remaining SK to win (provided my assessment is correct) if i can be killed in endgame... if there was a killing role & myself left in endgame, i would assume the killing role would win... (BTW, i PMed Alex to see if he would give me an answer)

i won't bother to say who i think should be protected, as it will start a WIFOM argument, we'll just have to wait on the nightscene...

[LyingBrian]

It doesn't matter who I protect. I'll get killed, since there's no one to protect me.

can't Stewie say the same thing... like i said a WIFOM...

[LyingBrian]

well interesting... nobody was killed last night, definitely making things interesting... well a couple of things to note... first of all i received confirmation from Alex that if i was left one-on-one w/ a killing role that the killing role would win the game... NOT making the game unbreakable as Stewie claims... of course, YOU won't get confirmation from Alex as that would confirm my role, kind of a catch22...

right now i think the best idea is to go no lynch... we don't lose anybody during the day, & w/ a kill at night would leave it at 2 vs. 1 the next day... the town could use the information from a night kill (provided there is one) to be able to point the finger at scum more easily...

vote: no lynch

i think the best suggestion is this... we should go for a no lynch & go to night... both Don Gaetano & Stewie should "protect" elvis_knits, and we'll see where we are in the morning...

what does everybody else think?..

[LyingBrian]

i would rather have a no lynch & get more information, than vote for any specific player right now... the town can still win if we no lynch & somebody dies tonight, but the town can NOT win if we lynch the wrong person today... (the killer would kill the last townie other than me, and leave it at him vs. me in the endgame, thus winning)

@Stewie

so you are proposing that in addition to being unnightkillable, i also have a killing role AND i can frame somebody to make it look like they did it! now THAT seems unbalanced...

@elvis_knits

if Stewie is the remaining SK, how does his not voting for scum make him scummy, per se?!? it's not like he could've known who they were... and BTW, yes, Orlando Bloom is VERY cute...

@Don Gaetano

what are your thoughts?

[LyingBrian]

that's EXACTLY what "information" we can gather... right now there is a 1:4 chance of lynching scum... with somebody dying tonight there will be a 1:3 chance to lynch scum... plus it will eliminate a lot of WIFOM arguments...

i doubt i will move my vote from a no lynch unless somebody has a better idea... and i doubt Stewie will vote for himself...

[LyingBrian]

@Don Gaetano

are you willing to lynch Stewie then... i think i could go for a Stewie lynch...

unvote

@Stewie

if you're innocent, then who do you suspect most, Don Gaetano, or elvis_knits, & why?

[LyingBrian]

1. Stewie gets killed = I and Elvis lynch LB tomorrow.

2. LB gets killed = I and Elvis lynch Stewie tomorrow.

3. Elvis won't get killed because I'll protect her.

4. I die (because I can't protect myself) = No information is gained, and LB and Stewie would be at each others throats tomorrow, without my insightful mind to save silly Elvis from lynching the wrong person

5. Nobody dies during the night. No information is gained, status quo continues.

1. nice of you to speak on elvis_knits' behalf... so you're ruling out the possibility that either elvis_knits or yourself could be the remaining SK?

2. i won't die... i'm unnightkillable, remember?

3. that's fine, i like elvis_knits living, she seems like a good guy...

4. lots of information would be gathered by your death (method of killing, etc.), some of which could convince elvis_knits that i'm innocent... she does know the most about Alex & crew, remember...

5. this is a distinct possibility, but we won't be in a worse position than we are now, would we?

@elvis_knits & Don Gaetano

why are you so set on not no lynching?... we can NOT be in a worse position than we are in now, & there is a possibility of being in a better position w/ more information...

@Stewie

what are your thoughts on the no lynch?...

[LyingBrian]

@Don Gaetano

i could go for no protections tonight if Stewie agrees...

@Stewie

would you mind explaining why you did not vote at ALL on either D2 or D3? (your vote after the deadline on D2 was not counted in the official vote count, so i'm not counting it) also, you have the fewest # of posts w/ 31... Don Gaetano has 77, LyingBrian has 82, elvis_knits has 88, which means everybody has at least 2x as many posts as you do... any explanation besides lurking?...

[LyingBrian]

Both you and Elvis have more posts than me?

How embarrasing.

I have to try harder next time.

you can't catch up making non-helpful posts like this... and mine

[LyingBrian]

I think we should lynch Stewie. That's why I'm voting him.

But if we go no-lynch and I die, this is what I think:

Don Gaetano - I don't think he's scum. I just don't. He's been very helpful in lynching scum, and I really don't think he's made a wrong move all game. If he's scum, I've been completely fooled (wouldn't be the first time!). I guess anything is possible, but I think Don Gaetano being scum is not very probable at all.

LyingBrian - He has acted scummy at times. Remember we almost lynched him? I do believe his role is Erica, and it makes sense that he can't be killed at night because I know that it is true that Erica is in law school in Boston. The fact that he wants to no-lynch is suspicious to me, though. It is making he take a second look at him.

I have a question I will go research and see if I can find the answer to: What happens if there is only two players left and one is the SK? Is it a draw? OR do they no-lynch and go to night where the SK kills the townie? I have the feeling that no-lynch today only helps the SK get closer to winning.

Stewie - I think I've already said that I can't buy that he is inHim and prays for people to be saved, but there is another player that frames him by killing by the word of God.

concerning your question... i believe the answer would be exactly what you proposed... they would vote each other until the deadline then the SK would kill the townie at night... except in my case, which i've already confirmed w/ Alex, i would be killed in endgame...

please explain to me how proposing a no lynch is suspicious...

and this is probably the last time i'll make this point, but if it makes sense that i can't be killed b/c i live in Boston, why does it make sense that i can kill?...

also, Don Gaetano, elvis_knits, & LyingBrian were on both RangeroftheNorth & Chaos's lynch bandwagons (the only anti-town to be lynched, so far)... so why is Don Gaetano any more cleared than you or me?

BTW, i think anybody who thinks no-lynch is suspicious is suspicious, so there

[LyingBrian]

b/c i'm not convinced he's the remaining SK, though he is 1st in my list of suspicious characters... you would be 2nd, though...

you still haven't explained why going for no-lynch is suspicious, BTW...

you also haven't commented on the Boston thing...

[LyingBrian]

I think no-lynch is suspicious because I think it gives the SK a free kill tonight. First you talk about no-lynch, then you talk about Don agreeing not to protect anyone. Do you WANT someone to die?

why is somebody dying tonight a bad thing?.. like i said before, it gives us more information & it eliminates 1 person from being the SK, so in a sense, i DO want someone to die... if i wasn't unnightkillable, then i would even be glad to sacrifice myself as long as it helped out the town!...

the fact that you are SO against going no lynch is making you more suspicious in my mind... ONLY the SK wants us to lynch the WRONG person today...

@Stewie

it would be nice to hear from you...

[LyingBrian]

i can't really explain it, b/c i'm not Alex or Aaron... do you KNOW that Aaron is religious?

also, another thing that bugs me is why did Stewie pick

Fritzler

as his N1 "pick"? if i was a SK in his situation i would've picked myself (or somebody else who didn't die) for N1 b/c no one could've known at that point that i was unnightkillable...

also, i would like to have as much information as possible before having to make a decision... i just am SO scared of being burned by a good player... we got lucky w/ Chaos claiming a killing role...

[LyingBrian]

And LB, If Stewie is the sk. He didn't target Fritzler the first night, that's just what he claimed he did.

He targeted Ibaesha if he's the guy that kills people with the word of god.

that's the part that's bothering me... why would he CLAIM to protect somebody that was killed? why not CLAIM to protect somebody who was NOT killed?

i was getting ready to hit the SUBMIT button on my vote for Stewie when you brought this up, BTW...

[LyingBrian]

@Stewie

if you need any furthur proof that i am NOT the SK, take the fact that i have not voted you yet... i could win the game right now if i was the remaining SK... lynch you now, kill somebody tonight, & kill the remaining player in endgame...

[LyingBrian]

@Stewie

i am definitely still most suspicious of you, though you did have a very well thought out & informative post... i would like to go back to the no lynch now that i have 2 supporters (Don Gaetano & Stewie)... i also would like you to reference that game where you were framed...

@elvis_knits

when i asked that question, i meant from RL... i know what his screenname is, but that could be sarcasm, tongue-in-cheek, etc...

@Don Gaetano & elvis_knits

i'm still waiting on a viable reason Stewie would pick somebody who died to say he "protected" N1...

vote: no lynch

[LyingBrian]

you know the more i think about it, the more i think that maybe being inHimshallibe works opposite of how we're thinking... maybe Stewie is a doctor, but can not protect AGAINST the word of God... w/ 2 doctors & an unnightkillable townie, that would balance out the 3 killing groups...

BTW, i still say we should not lynch today & neither Don Gaetano & Stewie should "protect" anybody tonight, and see who the SK decides to kill...

[LyingBrian]

@elvis_knits

what is MoS' real name?

[LyingBrian]

@elvis_knits

but MoS is a friend of Alex's, right?

[LyingBrian]

@elvis_knits

good enough of a friend to include in this game?

[LyingBrian]

my guess it would be Chaos, aka Steven... which makes this an interesting quote...

RotN - only because his role is Roland. We already know that inHim is most likely a scum role (from the death by bible stuff last night). I'm thinking that the foursome of friends from raj's hometown that are also scummers (MOS, raj, Roland, inHim) could be our scum. But maybe that's too breakable. I'll just put it as a possibility.

I can say that at least one of the four is not scum.

which would mean that Stewie is cleared... hmm, what do you think...

[LyingBrian]

simulpost, please repost, elvis_knits...

[LyingBrian]

does the name JHAWK mean anything to you, elvis_knits?..

[LyingBrian]

If Iammars knew what he was talking about, yes. But how did Iammars know that one of them was not scum?

but then Iammars said he KNEW that atleast one of them was NOT mafia. He has since died and wasn't scum, so I definitely believe him.

are you disbelieving yourself now, elvis_knits?

yes, it is, i'm trying to get a name from the screenname, though... still no first name?

MOD

, would you be able to give us MoS' first name, please?

[LyingBrian]

@elvis_knits

that's what i thought Alex meant... he did say the information "they have, or dont have." besides that would mean we have 1 scum & 1 SK left which is a BIG problem...

MOD

, can you confirm ________, aka jhawk, aka Mastermind of Sin is in the game?...

[LyingBrian]

i don't think MoS is in this game... i found nothing so far to support that rajrhcpfreak & Mastermind of Sin even know each other in RL... oh well, there goes that lead...

[LyingBrian]

mine is "wysiwyg"

[LyingBrian]

lol... i love simul-posts...

[LyingBrian]

Fritzler night one, darquiel every night after that exept yesterday, when I protected
Chaos (didn't think darquiel would get attacked... my bad).

i thought this was an interesting post... mainly b/c there was only 1 night between Fritzler & darquiel (halo freak) being killed, but this post makes it seem like there was at least two... i'm interpreting this as "i don't remember how many times i protected darquiel b/c i didn't really protect her, but then switched to somebody else "conveniently" the night she was attacked"...

i'm still not 100% sure that Stewie is scum, but i'm at 85%... good enough for a vote...

unvote

vote: Stewie

P.S. if either Don Gaetano or elvis_knits are the remaining SK, congratulations on a game well played...

P.P.S. this will test Don Gaetano as SK...

P.P.P.S. Don Gaetano, if you are not the SK, please don't put the lynching vote if you have >25% suspicion that elvis_knits is scum, please discuss, otherwise, feel free to vote...

[LyingBrian]

well it's down to elvis_knits & Stewie... i pretty much figured that... a point in elvis_knit's favor is that she voted for Stewie first... pretty bold move for an SK!

[LyingBrian]

so, are we lynching Stewie, or going no lynch... i can go either way...

[LyingBrian]

well, THAT was fun! i can't believe the town won!.. definitely glad you guys FINALLY started to believe me!..

i agree w/ Stewie that the turning point was the miscount of how many votes it took to lynch a player, but i also agree w/ Stewie that just b/c there is a miscount & somebody posts as if they THINK they were lynched, you shouldn't take their post at face value... even if i WAS scum, i would've posted the SAME thing...

oh, and P.S. it should've been a theme...

P.P.S. NEVER again can somebody say NOBODY would have a un-nightkillable TOWNIE!!