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Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:44 am

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I have poured my soul into this, it is up to friend, I am done talking
he needs to hammer hoopla, but if he doesn't want to believe us, then we can lose together and I can just blame him and every single game I see him in I can joke about how he messed up as 1/3rd of lylo-town with 5 when I've been preaching Hoopla for like 3 game days, and he could hammer for the win because foilist and I are spot on.

I honestly expected it to be Hoopla/Friend, didn't you foilist?
I figured Shotty was pretty much confirmed town, but there is no way he is, unless Friend has a sick sense of humor
There is no nead to make cases


If I was with hoopla, we could have both voted foilist SO EASY, even she admitted that as scum
If I was with foilist, he would have tried to bus my ass, and probably would right now knowing his style as scum
If I was with shotty, hoopla would be dead, and we would have won
If I was with friend, hoopla would be dead, and we would have won
There is no scenario where I can even be scum really. I'm going to be honest, here. If I was scum with foilist, I'm fairly certain I would have immediately asked the mod to replace out. We don't really go well together as scum, because I am very stupidly loyal, and he is a busser. He likes crazy plans, and I make one liners and ONLY one liners pretty much, while not answering any questions.

I am not doing that here. I am answering anything, and I am SURE of who the scum are. If you hadn't unvoted, friend, when shotty got on he would have voted foilist and then hoopla would have voted foilist, too. You really made the right decision, but you only went halfway, and were pretty lukewarm about it as you needed to hammer hoopla unless one of you/foilist is straight up sick and twisted. That would be going against your win condition, though, which isn't how you should be playing mafia. I don't see how you would feel good about delaying a hammer as a joke. It wouldn't be very funny if you could have won and you didn't.

That being said, barring the possibility of foilist/friend as a sick, demented person who won't hammer for the win as scum, hoopla/shotty HAVE TO BE THE FINAL SCUM TEAM. Also, given my past history as scum on this site, you will note that I do not claim townie as scum in medium to large games. In f11, sure, but not in a setup like this. I would have claimed vig, as seen in my offsite meta in a game with 13 people at the start:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmes ... _id=137823

or how about a game where foilist and I are both mafia on the same team:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... &start=925

or how about a game where I claim detective/cop:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 90&start=0

Basically, if the setup isn't open, I don't claim townie
If the setup is open, and I know the majority are townies/I can't get away with a tracker/vig claim, I'll claim townie. I don't even know if this setup was open or not, but there is no way I would claim townie as scum here. I would pretty much only do that in F11.

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Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:28 am

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Furcolow is blatantly town, IMO. I know his meta, he doesn't put up this much of a fight as scum.

Foilist, therefore, also is town.

vote: Hoopla


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Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:09 am

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Yes!! Friend, you have won for the town!
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Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:45 am

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wait so you aren't scum foil?
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Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:45 am

Post by drmyshottyizsik »

god my reads are being way way off, I really thought it was you and furc
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Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:01 pm

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Yes I'm town, and you're scum. That's a wrap. Let's get the mod in here
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Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:03 pm

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[
DAY FIVE END
]

Only five townspeople showed up at the center on this day. Heated words flew back and forth. Someone threw mud.

"You're scum! I know it!"

"No, you!"

"Me? You've got to be kidding. I could have killed you if I wanted to earlier. I didn't, so I must be town."

"Nah uh, you could still be scum with HIM!"

The debate raged for hours, until suddenly Furcolow climbed atop the bulldozer that started this whole crazy ordeal. The remaining townspeople quieted. Furcolow rarely had much of anything to say, and most of them had been simply ignoring him this whole time.

"Hoopla is scum," he declared, first quietly, then with more force and confidence. "HOOPLA IS SCUM. YOU'VE GOT TO BELIEVE ME, I AM TOWN. I COULDN'T BE SCUM WITH YOU, BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE HAMMERED HIM. I COULDN'T BE SCUM WITH YOU EITHER, BECAUSE I COULD HAVE HAMMERED HER. I AM TOWN. HOOPLA IS SCUM. LYNCH HOOPLA."

Friend stood below him, debating whether or not to believe Furcolow. "I don't know what to do..."

"You'll vote Furcolow if you know what's good for the town," Hoopla said. "Trust me on this. We can't let him get away with his scheming! I believe in you, Friend! Remember that time at that place where we did those things? Yeah, we're great friends, aren't we? We even have sister roles. You should vote Furcolow."

"Hmm..."

Everyone stared at Friend as he deliberated. Friend paced, nervously, staring down Foilist... then Furcolow... and finally, Hoopla.

"...I'm sorry, Hoopla," he finally said, and tied the noose around her neck.


But Hoopla was an
Odd Night Vig
! Oh noes! SCUMTEAM WINS.
























...










Just kidding. Hoopla was a
Mafia Roleblocker
!

Night Five begins, and will end 9/17/10 at 11:30 PM EDT. GO GO GO GO.
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Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:56 pm

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[
DAY SIX BEGINS
]

A new day rises. So do the few remnants of town... sans Friend, who was an
EVEN NIGHT VIG
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Will the few remaining townpeople seize control of their town once more? Will scum successfully take over? Today will decide everything...


Day 6 begins. As it is the final day, there is no official deadline unless conversation starts stagnating. With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch... choose wisely, and good luck!
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Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:01 pm

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vote: shotty

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Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:17 pm

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yoohoooooo foiliisssttttttt :)
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Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:17 pm

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i am a golden god!!!!!!!!!!
wait no....
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Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:18 pm

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(\(\
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i can haz hugs?
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Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:37 pm

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vote: Shotty


Yes you can has hugs.

I retract all negative things I have previously said about you
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Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:44 pm

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[
DAY SIX - FIRST AND FINAL VOTE COUNT
]

[2]
drmyshottyizsik
- Furcolow, Foilist13


Not Voting: drmyshottyizsik


reveal momentarily...
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Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:07 pm

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[
DAY SIX ENDS
]

The day is an almost wordless procession. All that needed to be said had been said the day prior. drmyshotty's silence surely proved his complicity, did it not?

Furcolow tied the rope to a nearby tree, and Foilist wrapped the other end around shotty's neck. This would be the last death this town had to cause to finally get peace... or so they hoped. But had they chosen correctly?



...












...wait for it...









...waaaaaaaaaaaaait for it...


















drmyshottyizsik was a
MAFIA GOON.







Unfortunately for Furcolow, Foilist was the fourth scum and I've just been fucking with you for the past several days. Town lost a while ago, actually. :P






...












>_> Sorry, I just can't help but give this town a hard time. It's so much
fun.
:P


The town, which consisted of:

DemonHybrid/foilist13,
Vanilla Townie

Nobody Special/Furcolow,
Vanilla Townie


and


willows_weep/archaebob/danakillsu,
Vanilla Townie

Snarky,
Town Backup

Thor665,
Vanilla Townie

seth/Midnight's Sorrow,
Town Doctor

eldarad,
Town Tracker

jmurph3,
Vanilla Townie

Friend,
Even Night Vig


have won the game! Congratulations! Thanks to everyone for playing!


Special thanks to everyone who replaced in throughout the course of the game, and also to Uite for dispensing useful advice and generally being an all-around cool person even though his death kinda sucked. <_<

Role PMs/Night Actions/Quicktopic Links/Mod Notes/etc. to follow shortly.
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Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:14 pm

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[
NIGHT ACTIONS
]

Words in
purple
indicate that a PM was sent notifying the player of the results of their attempted actions.

NIGHT ONE ACTIONS

Hoopla blocks foilist - success!
Midnight's Sorrow protects Thor - success!
drmyshottyizsik kills dana - success!
eldarad tracks jmurph3 - success!
jmurph didn't target anyone last night.

-
NIGHT TWO ACTIONS

Hoopla roleblocks Friend - success!
Midnight's Sorrow protects Orochi - success!
Friend shoots jmurph3 -
roleblocked!

drmyshottyizsik shoots Thor665 - success!
eldarad tracks thor - success!
Thor665 didn't target anyone last night.

-

NIGHT THREE ACTIONS

Hoopla shoots eldarad - success!
eldarad tracks Friend - success!
Friend didn't target anyone last night.

-
NIGHT FOUR ACTIONS

Hoopla roleblocks Friend - success!
drmyshottyizsik kills jmurph - success!
Friend submits "no action".
-
NIGHT FIVE ACTIONS

drmyshottyizsik kills Friend - success!
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Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:23 pm

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[
ROLE PM LIST
]

1. Town Doctor
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Welcome to Mini 1015! You are a
TOWN DOCTOR
. If you target a player, that player will be protected from ALL kills directed at them during that night.

You are aligned with the
TOWN
and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Game link is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 22&start=0 Please confirm in-thread.

Note that by /confirming you are acknowledging that you have read the rules in their entirety and will abide by them.

2. Town Tracker
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Welcome to Mini 1015! You are a
TOWN TRACKER
. At night, you may target a player and learn who, if anybody, that player targeted that same night. You will not, however, learn what action that player performed.

You are aligned with the
TOWN
and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Game link is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 22&start=0 Please confirm in-thread.

Note that by /confirming you are acknowledging that you have read the rules in their entirety and will abide by them.

3. Town Even-Night Vigilante
(Friend)

Welcome to Mini 1015! You are a
TOWN EVEN-NIGHT VIGILANTE
. On nights 2, 4, 6, etc, you may PM me the name of a player whom you wish to kill.

You are aligned with the
TOWN
and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Game link is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 22&start=0 Please confirm in-thread.

Note that by /confirming you are acknowledging that you have read the rules in their entirety and will abide by them.

4. Town Backup
(Snarky)

Welcome to Mini 1015! You are a
TOWN BACKUP
. When a player with a power role dies, you will gain the ability of that role after one night cycle has passed (ie if a power role is lynched day or night one, his ability will be available to you starting night two). However, you only get to use it once, so be careful! If more than one power role is dead and the proper amount of time has passed, you may choose which ability you use that night.

You are aligned with the
TOWN
and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Game link is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 22&start=0 Please confirm in-thread.

Note that by /confirming you are acknowledging that you have read the rules in their entirety and will abide by them.

5-9. Town Vanilla
(jmurph3, willows_weep/archaebob/danakillsu, DemonHybrid/foilist13, Nobody Special/Furcolow, Thor665)

Welcome to Mini 1015! You are a
TOWN VANILLA
. You don't have any special powers, but with your communication skills in-thread and your vote, you can still work wonders.

You are aligned with the
TOWN
and win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Game link is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 22&start=0 Please confirm in-thread.

Note that by /confirming you are acknowledging that you have read the rules in their entirety and will abide by them.

10. Mafia Roleblocker
(Enigma/Orochi/Hoopla)
Welcome to Mini 1015! You are a
MAFIA ROLEBLOCKER
, and your partners are drmyshottyizsik and Uite, who are both MAFIA GOONS. At night and during the confirmation period you may communicate with your scumbuddies HERE and decide who to kill. (Note that whoever sends me the PM for who the Mafia team is planning on killing is the one who will be considered to have done the killing.) You may also target a person whose night action you wish to block, assuming they have one. You will not be informed as to whether your roleblock worked or not. Note that you cannot both roleblock AND carry out the nightkill unless you are the only scum remaining.

You are aligned with the
MAFIA
and win when the number of Mafia equals or exceeds the number of remaining Town players, whether you survive to the end or not.

Game link is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 22&start=0 Please confirm in-thread.

Note that by /confirming you are acknowledging that you have read the rules in their entirety and will abide by them.

11. Mafia Goon
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Welcome to Mini 1015! You are a
MAFIA GOON
, and your partners are Enigma, a MAFIA ROLEBLOCKER, and Uite, a MAFIA GOON. At night and during the confirmation period you may communicate with your scumbuddies HERE and decide who to kill. (Note that whoever sends me the PM for who the Mafia team is planning on killing is the one who will be considered to have done the killing.)

You are aligned with the
MAFIA
and win when the number of Mafia equals or exceeds the number of remaining Town players, whether you survive to the end or not.

Game link is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 22&start=0 Please confirm in-thread.


Note that by /confirming you are acknowledging that you have read the rules in their entirety and will abide by them.

12. Mafia Goon
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Welcome to Mini 1015! You are a
MAFIA GOON
, and your partners are Enigma, a MAFIA ROLEBLOCKER, and drmyshottyizsik, a MAFIA GOON. At night and during the confirmation period you may communicate with your scumbuddies HERE and decide who to kill. (Note that whoever sends me the PM for who the Mafia team is planning on killing is the one who will be considered to have done the killing.)

You are aligned with the
MAFIA
and win when the number of Mafia equals or exceeds the number of remaining Town players, whether you survive to the end or not.

Game link is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 22&start=0 Please confirm in-thread.

Note that by /confirming you are acknowledging that you have read the rules in their entirety and will abide by them.
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Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:26 pm

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[
HIDDEN MOD INFO
]

"
Order of night action resolution is based off the Natural Action Resolution wiki page.

1.) Roleblock
2.) Protect
3.) Kill
4.) Track

All kills happen simultaneously. So if the Vig and a Mafia Goon target each other, they both die (unless the doctor saved one of them or one was roleblocked.)

Tracker can still get results if a person was killed that night.

The Backup can pick up the mafia's roleblock ability. However, if a goon dies, he doesn't get a killing power. Only if the vig dies.

If a player is roleblocked when they otherwise would have succeeded with an action, the player will receive a message stating so outright.

The doctor will not receive notice of whether or not someone attempted to kill his chosen patient even though there are two possible kills during any given even night; he'll just have to try to figure that out for himself when day comes up.

Worst case scenario for town, they hit LYLO day three. Worst case scenario for scum, they lose night two by vig shot.
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Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:29 pm

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Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:50 pm

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Esurio, GREAT job modding. I loved this game.

More to say when I'm not on my iPod, but YEAH TOWN
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Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:53 pm

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[
MOD THOUGHTS
]

As it turns out, the only note I took with the intention of posting here later was

"post 120 - eldarad pins the third scum while dismissing the cases on the other two. XD"

<_< eldarad, I know I told you in the dead QT that you pinned all the scum at one point - I was incorrect. I remembered having written this down and that it had
something
to do with all the scum, but I didn't go back to double check. Oops.

Uite was fabulous for the short period of time he was in the game and if vote plurality rules hadn't killed him, he may have gone on to win the game.

Hoopla did an amazing job pulling a scummy slot out of its pit. It's a shame for scum that shotty didn't bus her like she told him to, but I'm sure Hoopla has more to say about that, so I'll let her be the one to rant.

All that said, I was pretty sure for most of the game that scum was going to win it, because town was just so,
so
bang-your-head-against-the-wall-in-frustration misguided.

Friend was wrong most of the time. He has the ability to hold sway over other players, though, so if he can just get down the whole "guessing scum right" bit, he'll be a force to be reckoned with.

Furcolow was... I'll admit, unimpressive at first, and soon after letting him into the game I even felt a sense of regret, because I thought my game was going to be taken over by VIs. He turned that around, though, and had really stellar play on day 5. I don't generally play that great when I'm not interested in a game, either, but holy cow, it was a
night and day
difference.

eldarad did a good job of being a voice of reason without appearing to be too much of a threat to scum. If only he'd actually targeted the right people at night, he could have come out of the shadows and been a complete game-changer, leaving scum not knowing what hit them.

Midnight's Sorrow's JK claim had me going "whut" just as much as everyone else. No one understood it in the dead QT, either.

On the subject of fakeclaiming, I felt foilist's fake vig claim was dangerous but overall good play. He knew when he needed to retract the claim, and he did. Enigma's counterclaim (followed by his attempted switch to the Friend wagon) were both terrible plays. Hoopla changing the counterclaim to an Odd Night Vig was an amazing tactic that I'm sure would have worked under different circumstances.

Oh. On the subject of Enigma... dissing me and other players were only part of the reason he was forcibly replaced. Night one he was also determined to play against his wincon, stating that there was no way scum was going to win after his failed quicklynch on Friend, and that I should just let him shoot himself and forfeit the game for scum. When I refused to let him do such a thing, he got more and more belligerent until finally I had to replace him with Orochi, who did the best he could with what he had, I think.

Umm... that's it for now. Feel free to ask me anything you want about the game, give me constructive criticism, etc.
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Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:02 pm

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Nice flavor, esurio.

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Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:05 pm

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Hee. Thanks.

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Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:07 pm

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Not stalking. Sometimes I post in an aftergame if I have something to say.
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Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:07 pm

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You reviewed everyone but me Esurio, after everything we had!
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