Mini 983: It Got Worse (GAME OVER)

[StrangerCoug]

Here. Readthrough when I'm done with the dishes.

[StrangerCoug]

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Vote: sykedoc

. You're so crazy with the points in the first couple pages that I dare you to give me a point for calling you crazy.

StrangerCoug gains a point for asking for a point.

Note that I'm being a bit link-heavy due to the (from what I understand temporary) lack of post numbers. I didn't link every post, but I've tried to link every one where context was relevant.

I get nothing from the first two pages and think SocioPath is acting his typical self on Page 3.

SPS: Why?

LlamaFluff is also acting his typical self.

UncertainKitten: You say mod lynches are generally a bad idea, then bring up mod meta. I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this.

SocioPath: Aren't you aware that I hate the second part of this to death? Tsk tsk.

FoS

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Amished: I've seen daykills in a normal too. Also, why throw in the towel on only page 9?

Also, you may not "Piece of Shit" someone.

This made me laugh.

After about page 14 my brain shuts off until this post, which really shouldn't be made by anyone other than jesters... which the piñata claim sounds a lot like.

Ah, to hell with it. Maybe I'll get something from him that actually helps me make heads and tails out of stuff.

Unvote: sykedoc
Vote: SocioPath

[StrangerCoug]

Here and here.

[StrangerCoug]

Do you expect me to read a 21-page game a single time and expect to be able to digest everything at once? I don't deny the possibility that I should know something I don't.

[StrangerCoug]

Where am I shooting off the mouth? I'm trying to make sense out of everything, what I find helpful is asking questions. I thought the two posts I linked when you asked about them were related, you told me they aren't. I'm not sure your suspicions are warranted.

[StrangerCoug]

I apologize for the sloppiness.

[StrangerCoug]

True.

[StrangerCoug]

Sorry, can't ask the mod to give me a different role

[StrangerCoug]

Vote: Amished

Since there is a flipped serial killer but only one death, I have potentially incriminating information on you that may or may not be from the piñata. Whom did you target and why?

[StrangerCoug]

@ StrangerCoug: Does your "information" come from the pinata or not?

I refuse to answer. Don't fish for my role.

Waiting for a vote count before switching off.

[StrangerCoug]

EBWOP: Actually, the more important question is: Do you have a pinata gift? This is the only question I really want an answer to.

And you're not getting one for that either.

[StrangerCoug]

Here's the thing, SaintKerrigan: If I claim that it's from my role, I'm outed as either an investigative role or a jack of all trades. Claiming that my information came from the piñata takes heat off scum if Amished is town.

[StrangerCoug]

@ UK: He wasn't giving away his role type by admitting whether he had a pinata gift or not. He just claimed incriminating information, which does not necessarily mean investigative role.

I was

SPECIFICALLY TOLD

that Amished targeted somebody. That's why I asked him what I did.

[StrangerCoug]

I was

SPECIFICALLY TOLD

that Amished targeted somebody.

By somebody do you actually mean magnus?

God damn it, how much about my information do you guys have to ask?

...Actually, I think this one I can safely answer: No. I was not told whom Amished targeted specifically. He admitted targeting whom I think he did, so while I think I'm in the right to keep an eye on him, I want to focus on SaintKerrigan.

[StrangerCoug]

Can we stop all going "lol role info" already and get back to scumhunting? Will get recaught up tomorrow.

This is actually pretty scummy. I'm surprised I'm the first one to bring this up.

The hell? Trying to get town back on the right track is scummy? I'm sorry, but I do not have good reason to believe LlamaFluff thinks I should be the center of attention.

[StrangerCoug]

@UK: I wouldn't have a problem with it if that's what Llama had said. He just said, "Let's stop talking about role info and get back to scumhunting." That comes from scum more often than from town.

Either link me to three games where scum suggests town should quit it with the role talk and move on to actual scumhunting or drop the crap case on LlamaFluff. There's a rhyme and reason to my withholding of information.

[StrangerCoug]

Fine. You've made me stop caring about the count.

Unvote: Amished
Vote: Nikanor

[StrangerCoug]

Look at Socio, he said that his death would result in gifts, SCoug said something pinata related lead to a correct result that I targeted mo.

Reread what I've said. I've refused to state whether the result on you came from the piñata or not.

[StrangerCoug]

Omega: Will you wake up sykedoc and get him to post a damn vote count?

Its literally being tallied as we speak

Yes, I said I don't care about it. Other people might, though.

[StrangerCoug]

Ah, I wanted to play it up

[StrangerCoug]

Oh, so it's cumulative? As in not all at once?

[StrangerCoug]

Next order of business: What do we think would happen if Nik is unleashed? Learn his actions would obviously be the best outcome; the worst outcome would probably require an immediate lynching (of which we couldn't really get confirmation of it anyways)

I'm worrying about it being bad at this point, and I don't see the benefit of guessing right now. Somebody familiar with Beetlejuice may, though, so I won't stop any such people from trying.

[StrangerCoug]

All I see is that you have no logical explanation for your own position.

X

UncertainKitten is making perfect sense to me.

[StrangerCoug]

Except you are claiming relevant role info. You could have easily said "Some one shot abilities". If you were asked for a number, I'd hope you'd ACTUALLY COUNT and get an accurate count.

Quoted for truth.

[StrangerCoug]

May I go second to last since I think LlamaFluff is town?

[StrangerCoug]

I don't like anyone asking to go late. What about popcorn?

I have something else from my investigation that I wanted to save for until all night actions are claimed.

[StrangerCoug]

Sorry about the lack of activity on my part. I did do a re-read, but I'm still fairly stumped as to who the scum are (and I can't just fake a gut read due to my alignment.)

Mass claim seems fine.

And the parenthesized ultimately tells us what?

[StrangerCoug]

I don't like how SaintKerrigan is doing in his argument with Ythan...

[StrangerCoug]

Wake me up when it's my turn to claim or there is something useful to talk about, whichever comes first. Waiting one's turn is boring, and I feel out if it right now.

[StrangerCoug]

While we're all playing the waiting game, can we get a top two out of everyone?

I say SaintKerrigan and Amished.

[StrangerCoug]

So much for trying to spark discussion... (Hey, I think it worked a little, maybe not the way I wanted.)

[StrangerCoug]

We're on you.

EBWOP: In fact, you'd know that if you were actually paying attention.

Why are you lying?

By my tally, I believe these posts are meant to be directed at Nikanor and not SpyreX. Is that correct?

This is mostly for me, but it's information that other people might want: Only RedCoyote, SaintKerrigan, and Steam-Powered Shovel have claimed so far. I thought we were further down the line.

[StrangerCoug]

FoS: SaintKerrigan

You asked for it.

[StrangerCoug]

I need to decide if I trust UK or not to determine whether to let her claim directly before Llama while I claim third from last or make her go before me. I don't have anything against her right now, so if it gets down to three people left and nothing happens that tilts my read either way, I won't put up any resistance in claiming then.

[StrangerCoug]

Everyone who has not claimed needs to ASAP, we are almost at a point where I can claim safely since most remaining non-claimed people have breadcrumbed roles such that I don't think I can counter them.

I'm running a legality check and a role question past the mod right now. You'll know what I am for sure when I get those back.

[StrangerCoug]

Got the green light, so here we go: The dancing around I did earlier today is role information, not piñata information. I am Tyki Mikk from D.Gray-man, a random cop (obviously, not the kind that gets innocents and guilties at random). I can send a Tease after the player of my choice and get a piece of information about them. Last night I targeted Amished. Amished targeted somebody and nobody but me targeted Amished.

I also have some information spotted to me: One of Tyler Durdin or Matrim Cauthon is innocent. So if one dies and flips scum, do not lynch the other.

[StrangerCoug]

Mod: Please note sig.

Noted.

[StrangerCoug]

@ SC: How did you come by the Tyler/Matrim info?

Did you read my claim? The mod told me this.

Waiting for a count. Not against voting Nikanor if nothing else is viable.

[StrangerCoug]

Since everyone is so up in arms about lurking, how about we do a real post count and analyze this situation from an impartial point of view?

From right now until this same time last week, the top of page 37:

UK 17
Ythan 14
Nikanor 11
SK 11
Llama 11
SC 7
Amish 7
Spyrex 7
RC 3
SPS 0

And, yet, Nikanor is the big lurker, according to UK, when he's actually tied for third most posts this past week. Do I need to go into last week, or do you concede the point? Obviously you can't analyze activty purely by post count, but it gives you a general idea. Now if Nikanor wants to come in here and call himself a lurker, that's his business. He's still technically wrong according to just the raw factual evidence that he's posted more than a majority of the players in the past week.

Are you counting posts along the lines of "Hey, I'm here" or are you making judgment calls as to whether it actually has content? I think the more accurate indicator is quality, not quantity.

[StrangerCoug]

You're right SPS that something would be fishy except for the fact I was trying to, in fact, call you out as WHO I JAILED because you've done nothing and only an SK was killed making me think I may have had something to do with it.

We're either vigging him tonight or lynching him tomorrow.

[StrangerCoug]

Nikanor, if you're town, I'm strangling you.

[StrangerCoug]

BAH!

[StrangerCoug]

I kind of dozed off in terms of paying attention to this game after I died, but winning is always a good thing. Way to go!