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Pfft, come on, chances of us both being scum in 2 consecutive games is very slim...pacman281292 wrote:tanstalas wrote:/confirm
Gotta say - you are twisted ZwetVote: tanstalas.
pacman: HAY SIR! ARE U SCUM?
tanstalas: YES I AM!
Since I know I'm not scum
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^^ That exactlyZang wrote:Pacman-I can understand that you were joking about zwet and tanstalas being scum. ButI don't understand how you were joking by saying that there being two scum teams. We havenoinformation suggesting that there might be two scum teams and we shouldn't assume that there are since the majority of games have only one group.
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Depends on your definition of a "color"Zang wrote:tanstalas wrote:^^ That wasn't in green text guys...
I wouldn't fall for it
it's realzwetschenwasser wrote:zwetschenwasser wrote:Sorry, dude, I'm serious. You can have one more bah post, though.Bad zwet! Sorry pacman, that was the practical joker zwet. Word to the wise. If you see me posting in blue, it's probably fake. Any other color is a real mod post.FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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Well when vote/unvote boy gets in here and posts we can see for certain If Vezok wants to take that chance. Some people consider black an "absence of color" or a "shade"..brianj wrote:The tag shows, so I think he means it. zet wouldn't have used color tag since the average letter is black-ish anyway.
I'm just looking at the title of the game and being overly cautious
OH please do not modkill me, oh great and powerful reincarnation of purity and virtue. I will revere you, I will cast aside my clothes and follow you. Be mine, and I shall give up my very soul to further your own perfect ends. And when I see the glory of your hippopotamus at the end of time, I shall be happy, and stab myself in the genitals for you. I love you.Last edited by zwetschenwasser on Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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While I do believe pacman is the best lynch ATM based on his (what seems like) apparent scumslip, I am tempted to BW-lynch the mod/player (whatever he is) but I am afraid of what may happen if we actually did lynch him. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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Unvote:
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Second post in this thread.. wondering if he might actually be in game, feel free to BW on guys, worst case is he isn't best case is we get rid of a hidden person
Also his account was just created recently and has only posted in this thread.FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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Parama wrote:
And no I'm no jester. But it's fun to screw around like that :3
In other news pacman has still scumslipped and needs to be lynched.
Because I have a post restriction
I was actually referring to the neutral part. I did not know if you were a jester or not. I did know you were not neutral after the mod scene though
Thanks for confirming you were not a jester though. I'll be keeping my vote where it is for now. In a game like this I see no reason to lie, you are just making it tougher on everyone. Does not scream town to me.FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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Logic fail much? If everyone believed you were a jester I do not think you would be lynchedParama wrote:
ORtanstalas wrote:In a game like this I see no reason to lie, you are just making it tougher on everyone. Does not scream town to me.
I'm screwing around because it's fun.
Why would you think I was telling the truth about being a neutral jester? Why would I claim it if in fact I weren't? Jesters are the only role that WANTS to get lynched - it's against any other player's wincon to do such.So if everyone believed my jester claim, then I'd be lynched anyways!
aka If you believed my claim in the first place, you are teh moron.
Plus, scumslip < screwing around FYPOV? Lolololol. Hello, pacman's buddy.
And, mod, stay out of this. It's not my fault that I have this damn PR that I do in fact have.
Also did not see "because I have a post restriction" in this post. Do you really have a post restriction, or are you lying about that as well?FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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You answered your own question..Parama wrote: But either way I'd die. Basically, what good would it do to seriously claim jester? Also, what is the difference between lynching a jester then vigging a scum and lynching a scum then vigging a jester?The former gives the jester his wincon, the latter does not. <_<
But all this is irrelevant because I have a post restriction.
Do you have to make so many posts per day or something, because now you are just ramblingFlayTheScum 1:33 am
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B or Crewq455 wrote: b. a scum member trying not to get lynched by claiming he wins if he is lynched
c. an idiot town member
d. all of the above
Please circle the answer which appears to be most correct.
Why would you make that sort of joke after you saw pacman making what he said was a "joke" and seeing what happened to him.
And he probably would not have admitted he was lying until I called him out on it.
My vote stays where it is unless someone else screams scum tomeFlayTheScum 1:33 am
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brianj wrote:I don't know, if Parama flips town I would be more suspicious of zwet/Magicman set-up dosed by their awareness and ability to make up ridiculous post restriction. Actually I want Parama to 'lie' and write "I am not a Jester" and see if he gets mod-killed or not, will so much be helpful at whether we should or should not lynch mod-player (there are two!) day one.
Why do you think lying would get him modkilled?
Do you have some Post Restriction saying you can't lie?FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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You failed to answer my question about why you think lying may get him modkilled.brianj wrote:No, I have no post restriction
Still if the other players with one may be able to tell about what happens if they break it, but now I am unsure that penalties will not vary among individuals just because this is bastard mod.
Is vez and Parama (and Reckomanic?) the only players with claimed post restrictions?
Do me a favor and post these four things:
"I am not scum"
"I am not town"
"I am aligned with scum"
"I am aligned with town"FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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Incorrect pacman. D can not be true. How can you be a townie and a scum at the same timepacman281292 wrote:
Any of them is possible. No idea there.rewq455 wrote:
Hmmm.... so the question is is he
a. a jester trying to make it look like he is really not trying to get lynched. I guess I will just come out with it. WIFOM.
b. a scum member trying not to get lynched by claiming he wins if he is lynched
c. an idiot town member
d. all of the above
Please circle the answer which appears to be most correct.FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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Wow, someone is getting a little defensive with hardly any votes on them, and paranoid asking for a votecount as well -.-pacman281292 wrote:
That was a DAMN JOKE FFSCooLDoG wrote:Parma's post restriction is that he has to say just that in every single one of his posts.
@pacman you said you
. I know you talked about two players being a team (in a joke) but you also talked about another team. With thatDon't know about the other scum teamvote: pacman
Can't post more now! maybe later!
Also I wouldn't lynch a claimed jester on D-1. I have to re-read, but I have to go now!
I SAID "2 SCUMTEAMS" IN ORDER TO MAKE IT SUCH WAY THAT ZWET AND TANS WERE BOTH SCUM, AS PART OF THE JOKE.
@MOD: VOTECOUNT PLZ.
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I'm going to assume you are town-aligned, or you should be modkilled unless that mod post was not seriousbrianj wrote:It's not red, though the statement "all statement except red cannot be trusted" only came from player zwet, not "blue is fail" zwet. Force Parama into saying he is Jester? Also don't know if alignment claim fits into fake-claim. Would definitely like confirmation.
I am Town-aligned btw.
As if you are actually scum you would be "fake claiming" townFlayTheScum 1:33 am
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Uhh, Pome didnt vote me...zwetschenwasser wrote:Cooldog is a Liar VOTECOUNT
pacman(5)-Zang, rewq455, tanstalas, ZONEACE, CooLDoG
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tanstalas(4)-pacman, zwetschenwasser, Pomegranate, vezokpiraka
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Not Voting: everyone else
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I disagree, I think you did hurt the town by distracting us.rewq455 wrote:
You did not hurt the town. However you purposefully mislead the town. I want to know why.Parama wrote:
Counterquestion - Did I hurt the town by doing so?rewq455 wrote:@Parama-Why would you fake a post restriction as well as fakeclaim. Don't give me the "I was messing around" bs.
And since you're trying to meta argument, do not expect a response from me.
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CooLDoG wrote: Then Why did you un-vote him in d-1 when he was near a lynch?
Also you made a math error in your second post.tans wrote:Pfft, come on, chances of us both being scum in 2 consecutive games is very slim...
Since I know I'm not scum
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No I said the chance of us being scum in 2 consecutive games is very slim. You sir are an idiot or do not understand statistics or are trying to misrep what I said.CooLDoG wrote: The chance of both you and pacman being scum in THIS game are the same as any other 12 player game,comment?
3rd post more about that...
Gather around everyone. We are going to have a lesson today in Statistics 101 because CooLDoG doesn't understand statistics.
While what you said IS true - the chance of us being scum in any one paticular game is the same, what I said was 2 consecutive games.
Let's make this even easier shall we? If you flip a coin on ANY GIVEN flip the chance is the same 50%. The chance of flipping a coin and getting HEADS BOTH TIMES is only 25%. Should I continue, or do you admit you are fail math sir?
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Keep this in reference for a later post I want to show.tans wrote:Yup, he is definitely getting a real vote when confirmation stage is over.
Scumslip on 1st page = awesome
^^ That exactly
Vote:pacman281292
Here he votes, keep reading the meat is coming. I must build up this particular ISO.
okay here we have some doubts about pacman, even though he has made some scummy posts at this time. He was also the bigest wagon,CooLDoG wrote: [quote="tans]While I do believe pacman is the best lynch ATM based on his (what seems like) apparent scumslip, I am tempted to BW-lynch the mod/player (whatever he is) but I am afraid of what may happen if we actually did lynch him. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?why the de-rail post tans?[/quote]tans wrote:Unvote:
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Second post in this thread.. Wondering if he might actually be in game, feel free to BW on guys, worst case is he isn't best case is we get rid of a hidden person
Also his account was just created recently and has only posted in this thread.
[/quote]CooLDoG wrote: Okay lets get off the scumy persons wagon and vote for a guy who is not even really in the game here.Why is magic so scummy at this point in the game?
For the second part about voting Magicman - why not? as I said worse case scenario is we get rid of a "hidden" player - did you notice the name of this game?
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Here we have yet another vote change...tans wrote:Actually, mod confirmed something about you.
Unvote:
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LaL lynch
I know you aren't a neutral jester now, after you said you were
What exactly did he (the mod) confirm, why the vote on him when pacman is still clearly the best lynch?
For the mod part I have an ability that turns neutral aligned people into people who's votes don't count and are not counted for or against town. When mod declared he was a neutral jester and Parama said hthat the mod guessed correctly I used my ability on him. The mod post after that with a scene said "nothing happened" hence he was lying about being a neutral aligned person or about being a jester. in a bastard mafia game I am going to lynch all liars. Period.
I always had an interest in pacman... not sure what you are getting at?CooLDoG wrote:
Here we have an attack on pacman...tans wrote:Incorrect pacman. D can not be true. How can you be a townie and a scum at the same timeWhy the interest in pacman all of a sudden on pacman?
I voted the mod because like I said earlier if you lie in a bastard game you should be voted. However noone else seemed to want to vote for the mod - I wish everyone would have, worst case nothing happens like I said previously. I then went back to Parama because I knew he lied, see previous post.CooLDoG wrote:
OKAY, we got another vote on pacman. With a good reason...but what about this next post???tans wrote:Wow, someone is getting a little defensive with hardly any votes on them, and paranoid asking for a votecount as well -.-
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If you were in fact voting him he would have been at L-1. You still think he is the best lynch at this point.tans wrote:Uhh, Pome didnt vote me...
LAL -Unvote: Vote: ZwetWhy the vote on the mod? Why the un-vote? What the hell was soooo scummy as to change your vote on the mod?
Then the day culminates with you voting parma. I also get the impression that you really don't want to post content. From all of these posts you haven't really built a case on anyone.vote= tans. Answer to all please.
I have a theory that pacman cannot be lynched, as last time when he was "lynched" the day did not end. If we all pile on pacman now we can see if that theory holds up. There is also a chance that the mechanic that was removed was his "Jesus Christ resurrection" ability and that he will stay dead for good this time, which I have no problem with as well.
Now, after pacman, I will be going after Fate. His buddying with you and his reasoning "Oh hai - what you said sounds good to me - you covered it all" does not sit well with me, almost like he was sitting back for someone to make a case on someone then BW him. Also his voting Animorph because a known scum said he was scum was retarded. And his reasoning that my first post today was to "limp" onto the pacman wagon? What friggin wagon Fate? I was the FIRST person to re-vote him today. I also gave my reasoning for voting him on D1. Your reading comprehension this game is awful. Did you hit your head as well when you broke your wrist? Would explain a lot.FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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Where does it say in that post "Last edited by..."CooLDoG wrote:Oh shit, I didn't see that mod post... I think he edited later because I swear to god it wasn't there when I read page 11.
In all the posts he has edited it says that at the bottom of the post. This one it doesn't..
Your reading comprehension in this game is atrocious. Do you have the memory timespan of a goldfish?FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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New question: Are you subscribed prozak, and forgot to take it today? Just curiouspacman281292 wrote:
I'll make it brief. IT WAS A FUCKING GODDAMN BAD JOKE.Zang wrote:pacman wrote:lolololol look at me! I'm following CD's shitty reasoning! I'm soo town.
I've explained it like... what? I forgot how many times. You keeping bringing it up makes me think you're making a very shitty scumteam with CooLDoG, trying to get rid of my powerful PR in order to behead the poor townies
When have you answered that?
WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER?FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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Zang wrote:
Stop ignoring the question!pacman281292 wrote:
I'll make it brief. IT WAS A FUCKING GODDAMN BAD JOKE.Zang wrote:pacman wrote:lolololol look at me! I'm following CD's shitty reasoning! I'm soo town.
I've explained it like... what? I forgot how many times. You keeping bringing it up makes me think you're making a very shitty scumteam with CooLDoG, trying to get rid of my powerful PR in order to behead the poor townies
When have you answered that?
WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER?
You said it was a bad joke, Ok. But if it was a joke why didn't you just ask who the third person in the scum team was instead of asking who the second scum team was?
Do you have insider information that there are three people in a scum-team?FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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Again, I have to ask: Did you see the title of this game?Zang wrote:No, but if anything a 3-person scum team should be assumed in a 12 player game. Not 2 scum teams.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were two 4-man scum teams with 4 townies lolFlayTheScum 1:33 am
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"Fate Counter" ?zwetschenwasser wrote:Post 308 Votecount:
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Fate Counter- 1 down, 9 to go
Any idea what that is Fate? Or does the mod mean "fate" as in it is your fate to by lynched?
I'm assuming it doesn't have to do with the player "Fate" but maybe someone else that has only 1 vote on them now?
Unvote:
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Don't worry Fate, I'll be coming back to you, I just want to see if this vote change changes the "Fate" counter.FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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I NEVER said that the odds of being scum in ANY ONE PARTICULAR GAME was less, I said in 2 consecutive games. Do you have a reading comprehension issue as well as math comprehension?CooLDoG wrote:@tans I looked up some basic statistics and found this. I hope this proves that I:
a) Know basic math
b) Understand statistics better then you (hell uv allot better thank ah you)
c) Adds more to my case, because you spread falsehood throughout the town.
Here’s that linky:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy, you can also run a quick google on that fallacy also. Rather neat how soo many people throwaway their life's saving on such crap logic as that...
Let's also assume that a game has 8 players and there are 4 scum and 4 town. Now this would be game over right there, but I want to make this as transparent as possible.
So lets also say that you played 2 games these are the possibilities you could have
(Scum, Scum)
(Scum, Town)
(Town, Town)
(Town, Scum)
Still with me and agree with the above?
OK now what are my chances of being scum in BOTH games? If you said 1 in 4 or 25% give yourself a cookie
What are my chances of being scum in one game and town in the other? If you said 1 in 2 or 50% give yourself another cookie
And my chances of being town in both games? 1 in 4 or 25%
Mathematically this can be expressed by just taking the percentage of each chance since there are 8 players and 4 are scum and 4 are town there is a 50% chance of being one or the other so
The chance of being scum in both games = 50% * 50% = 25%
The chance of being scum in the first game and town in the second = 50% * 50% = 25%
The chance of being town in the first game and scum in the second = 50% * 50% = 25%
The chance of being town in both games = 50% * 50% = 25%
Now add the middle two ones because they are both the same "overall" end result (played 2 games, 1 was scum and 1 was town) = 50%
Now - to put it into an F11 setup - you have 11 players, 2 are scum and 9 are town
Chance of being scum in any one paticular game = 18.18%
Chance of being town in any one paticular game = 81.81%
So using the above again:
The chance of being scum in both games = 18.18% * 18.18% = 3.30%
The chance of being scum in the first game and town in the second = 18.18% * 81.81% = 14.88%
The chance of being town in the first game and scum in the second = 81.81% * 18.18% = 14.88%
The chance of being town in both games = 81.81% * 81.81% = 66.94%
Add the middle two together because OVERALL it is the same result = 29.76%
so 66.94% + 29.76% + 3.30% = 100%
Seriously, go look up independence probability theory.
I am done with this conversation.FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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Oh hai!Fate wrote:Oh hi scum, so glad you could join us.
Pacman was a VI yesterday, so the REAL reason you aren't voting him is because Zang is more popular today for wagons.
AMIRTITE OR AMIRTIRWEEEEEEEEEEEE
Glad you aren't paying attention to why I voted for him, love how scum never really pay attention to thread posts, and just skim, makes it easier to catch you.
When I find out what this "Fate Counter" is, trust me, I'll be back to youFlayTheScum 1:33 am
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Ahh - k - I see where you are coming from now, it was just a vote off to see if it changed the counter, I just picked someone else in the list.
I am sure pacmac will get the noose today or tomorrow - though I am going to try my hardest to get a train on you, don't you worry.
I'm kinda wanting to leave pacman alone tonight to see if he is a vig/sk - I am still betting on him being an SK as I can't see him being a vig with the name Voldemort... though bastard mafia.. who knows... I also didn't like his over-the-top defensive stance where he started acting like you, by posting all in caps...
Speaking of which WTF, your last three posts only had one sentence all in capsFlayTheScum 1:33 am
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Really?Fate wrote:I don;t use caps unless I have a good reason.The main wagon is correctly on you, as such there is not much to yell about
Your main reason for voting me was you said that CD's case on me was rock solid. Did you not read my rebuttle post?
I encourage everyone to read my post again http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6#p2512526 and after you have read that again I'd suggest to take a closer look at the people on my wagon, as if I get lynched I *WILL* flip town.
Is there something you don't understand Fate - I answered all of his questions and your vote is still on me. Hey, if you want to follow math-fail boy that's your prerogativeFlayTheScum 1:33 am
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zwetschenwasser wrote:I hope all of you have been having a nice day so far. However, I see the need to change a dynamic. The Next player who votes for zang or votes on the largest bandwagon will automatically sign the census. Thank you and have a wonderful day.Dear god that color is awfulFlayTheScum 1:33 am
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He put me at #1 on his list...rewq455 wrote:
Why thank you CoolDog.CooLDoG wrote:Before I get to the scum list I must ask tans a question. you are currently the biggest wagon, is the only thing you can talk about is the horrificcolor of the mod's fake post?? Also to note, the mod said that all colors except forblueare real. Of course he could just befucking with our brains. As a matter of fact:the mod posted that no fake-claims post ingreen, so it could also be fake, because the mod said thatred was for real.
SCUMLIST!!!:
red is scummy (in correct order of scummyness),blue is no read/neutral (in correct order),maroon is slightly scummy (in correct order),green is town (correct order again),and dark green is slightly town (in correct order).Ok here it is:
tanstalas
pacman
zang(almost at red)
animorpherv1- haven't talked much about him, but he is lurking badddddd. Maybe a good d-1 3 lynch, or d-4 off of polocy...
fate- to note fate is slightly above the blue line on the scummy side
ZONEACE- zone you are treading a fine line my friend... the only reason you an't up there is because ani is worse then you...
vezokpirakaJust a side note here... I put them in order of scummy down to town, so vez is nearer to scum the brianj.
brianj- had you at blue for a bit, but I re-read some of your posts and I get a bit of a town vibe...
CooLDoG
rewq555I actually, after do my isos, found rewq to be more townish then me .
Flee free to comment, that’s what its there for...
ps. is that not the most colorful post you have ever seen???
The only edit I would put to this list is make Zang closer to being neutral, but still a little scummy. Also, I agree with lynching the lurkers in later days if there is no one else to lynch.
And you agree with him..
I have rebutted everything he has thrown at me and you are going to follow someone who is fail at either math or reading comprehension?
He quotes shit from wikipedia that has no bearing whatsoever on my argument. I have already said the chances of being scum in any one game is the same.. the chance of being scum in 2 games in a row is less..
And Fate wants to agree with him as well... meh.. you two are both fail math and probably scum.
Here when I flip town, go after Cooldos, Fate and Rewq. There is definitely scum on this wagon
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Fucking funny when I want to vote magicman its scummy - now cooldog wants to do it? fucking hypocrite
And Fate is obv-scum - just throwing that out there. Cooldog may be scum or he is just a VI - not sure which yet
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QFTCooLDoG wrote:I love you so much mod! Please hurt me in any way you wish! I will change my gender for you! I will let you stalk me and kick me in the balls because I have no friends and I want you to love me! Love me baby love me!FlayTheScum 1:33 am
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Take a psyche class - I know I am town, so why would you voting for me give you a vengeful townie ability? Yeah, thought not - though this is a bastard game so it may have happened...Fate wrote:What the fucking hell?
Take an english class, and try that post again. I don't even know what you're trying to say. It looks like you misread my claim, got scared I was going to shoot you, and crapped your pants and out of your mouth
Post in CAPS Fate - I don't think you are really youFlayTheScum 1:33 am
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