Ellibereth wrote:I just had the thought that Hooplascum is letting herself get lynched to allow the Janshenanigans come into play.
hmph.
Shouldn't we lynch the one between Hoops/Vas that we want the flip of LESS.
Your thought is that the scum decided to give up a member of their team and use up their 1-shot powerrole on day 1 just so that the town wouldn't know that the scum had given up a member of their team? Is that like the popular military strategy "shoot and bury one quarter of your own soldiers at the beginning of the war so the enemy won't be able to account for them later"? ... a bit silly.
^^ That's what I wanted to post yesterday in 707, but I was worried it might endanger Hoopla's plan because the scum would retract their use of the janitor. In fact, Elli gains some small number of scumpoints for trying to tie janitored-hoopla to scum-hoopla. It's something that either scum or town might do, however it would normally have helped the scum more than the town.
Ironically, I'm more concerned that Hoopla wants to play the too townie to be scum card. Just tossing that out there for future reference.
It's the future.
I saw Hoopla's breadcrumb right away (in fact, I thought it was obvious, and I'm surprised that at least one of the scum didn't catch it, or if they did, I'm surprised they still used the janitor day 1.)
My first reaction was that maybe I should go ahead and vote Hoopla just to help her carry out her plan:
Herodotus wrote: Hoopla wrote: Votes that seem very safe - very safe indeed. To some, that line will be extra reason to vote for me.
Indeed.
because I had the impression that she would want any townies who saw her breadcrumb to vote her, just to get her to L-1.
... although I also realized that only a (vanilla) townie would want to do what she said she would do, so she "must be" a townie.
But there was some WIFOM: what if she was scum hoping that some townies noticed the breadcrumb and decided she must be town because of it? Hence the comment quoted above that I was more concerned she wanted to play the too townie to be scum card than the too scummy to be scum card*. Ultimately, I decided that her weak play meant that she was genuine about trying to draw votes. Therefore, she was almost certainly town.
When she voted me in post 507, I figured she realized I had seen her breadcrumb and was trying to get me to vote her. So, I considered it again...
But decided that intentionally lynching a townie is less good than trying to lynch scum. And also, if she was lynched, the lynch wagon would be most analyzable if the scum had to work for their mislynch.
So I kept scumhunting, and soon made it clear that I wouldn't be voting her. I even considered going so far as to point out her breadcrumb as evidence of her being town, but that would just have doubled the WIFOM issue and convinced everyone that she and I must be scumbuddies.
* I'm shocked no one ever called me on this bizarre comment. What did you all think I saw in her that was too townie to be scum? Other than her secret plan, she stopped looking townie pretty early D1.
So... if I was scum, then the scum would have known about her plan from page 20. That doesn't clear me, but it's submitted for consideration.
Also, I want to know whether anyone else can demonstrate that they saw Hoopla's breadcrumb in advance. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who saw it is very likely town, because I'm somewhat confident that no one on the scumteam caught it.
@Hoopla: <3
I'm glad your plan worked. I was worried that day 1 was going to end with "Hoopla - vanilla townie, lynched day 1". You were playing a big gambit. You might want to disguise breadcrumbs more deeply in the future.
And I now understand why you suspected me, although if you had considered that I might have understood you all along, I think you would have had the opposite impression. (Or more likely you would have changed your plan out of the fear that I might be scum.)
Just because a majority of a group of people decide it's okay doesn't mean it's not murder. - Cobblerfone
