/Invitational 11: Pick your Poison 5 (Game Over)

[populartajo]

Hey Tajo, do you remember from the previous invitational where early on I said jokingly that probably one of the five lurkers was scum and got attacked hard for it? What was your opinion on that?

Why should I remember this?

Also what is the scumhunting motivation for this question?

[Ellibereth]

^^^VAS, THAT'S WHY TAJO's TOWN.
Anywho, me no likey any of the options but out of them lynch Hoops, Vig Vas, is the one I like.

unvote, vote Hoopla

also, those names in caps earlier were a scumlist btw.

[Ellibereth]

I just had the thought that Hooplascum is letting herself get lynched to allow the Janshenanigans come into play.
hmph.
Shouldn't we lynch the one between Hoops/Vas that we want the flip of LESS.

[populartajo]

BTW HAY TAJO AM I SCUM THIS GAME?

I HAVE NO IDEA. ARE YOU VOTING ONE OF VASUDEVA, AMISHED OR MIKE? IF YES, TOWN.

Arggg, why are you people discussing my list? This isnt the time you should be looking at this list...... ENDGAMEEEEEEEEEEEE.

[Ellibereth]

unvote

[populartajo]

Votecount, please, Mr Patrucl, also when is deadline?

Also laos, Hoopstown knows there is a janitor on the mix? Why the hell is she doing this if she is town?

[Ellibereth]

Yeah, now i'm getting more anda more sure Hoopla is scum.
She wasn't playing how I expected for either alignment so I was all confused, but forcing on janitor shenanigans explains it.
SO

Anywho, me no likey any of the options but out of them lynch Hoops, Vig Vas, is the one I like.

this is still the one I like.

[Herodotus]

Anywho, me no likey any of the options but out of them lynch Hoops, Vig Vas, is the one I like.

Vig Vas, who wasn't on your scumlist, and let the person you've been voting all day, who was on your scumlist, wake up tomorrow? Why?

[VasudeVa]

Ack, Beatles Mafia. I was actually as lazy as I am in that game as in here. But there were fewer people soo.

Read on, I get better after page 24. Again, I was slightly disappointed at the size of the /in-vitational I got because it was as large as NY111 and I hated NY111. So I just went to lazy bandwagon mode. I'll get better (I suppose).

Also, no votes to you because I wanted to make the most of my vote and get on a big bandwagon. I find that solo tunnelling one person with only your vote is kinda pointless.

[ekiM]

I'd like everyone, if they haven't already, to express a preference between the three leading wagons. Go. (Hoopla>>>zoraster>VasudeVa)

zoraster >>> Hoopla = VV because I'm pretty sure the latter two are town. I think zoraster might be scum because:

DGB made her anti-town "gambit" without any real calculation

on whether it was helpful to the town, but she reasoned (correctly, it seems) that a "gambit" almost always comes across as pro-town, even when its substance is decidedly not.

The way this is phrased it seems like zoraster knows DGB to be town. Also, apart from stuff about DGB the main post he made today was the super wishy-washy 508, as others have point out.

However, the zoraster wagon doesn't look like it has any momentum. I don't want to lynch either Hoola or VV. Hero makes some ok points on KMD in 560. I'd definitely rather lynch possible lurkerscum than someone I think is town.

UNVOTE: zoraster
VOTE: KMD

People suspecting Herod because they think KMD is his buddy... it makes more sense to lynch KMD in that case and there is more possibility of a wagon there.

[Rhinox]

ellibereth and tajo: not sure I agree with scum letting themselves get lynched just because they have a janitor. Is the benefit of hiding a scum flip good enough to cancel out the loss of a member of the scum team? Is this the strongest argument for why hoopla is scum?

Also, I don't think we should be basing our lynch on who we want to see the flip of more. We're not exactly sure the scum would definitely choose to janitor today anyways.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd be willing to switch to KMD, but I don't think it's going to happen.

Hoopla's continued "giving up" is solidifying my vote by the hour.

Ninja edit: I agree with Rhinox.

[Ellibereth]

Anywho, me no likey any of the options but out of them lynch Hoops, Vig Vas, is the one I like.

Vig Vas, who wasn't on your scumlist, and let the person you've been voting all day, who was on your scumlist, wake up tomorrow? Why?

Want flip of Vas more.
KMD gets a lot easier and easier to read as time goes on IMO.

[DrippingGoofball]

Anywho, me no likey any of the options but out of them lynch Hoops, Vig Vas, is the one I like.

Vig Vas, who wasn't on your scumlist, and let the person you've been voting all day, who was on your scumlist, wake up tomorrow? Why?

Want flip of Vas more.
KMD gets a lot easier and easier to read as time goes on IMO.

Mmmmm. why do you want a flip of Vas, since there is a possibility of janitoring??? We might get NO FLIP at all. Lynching for "information" is like, the worst possible reason in this game - at least until the scum have used up their lynch mop on a player.

KMD isn't going to get easier to read, he's lurking.

[Herodotus]

Is the line "I suppose I could vote KMD; but..." distancing from a buddy while voting a townie?

I'd be willing to switch to KMD, but I don't think it's going to happen.

I found one of KMD's buddies...

[Herodotus]

Anywho, me no likey any of the options but out of them lynch Hoops, Vig Vas, is the one I like.

Vig Vas, who wasn't on your scumlist, and let the person you've been voting all day, who was on your scumlist, wake up tomorrow? Why?

Want flip of Vas more.
KMD gets a lot easier and easier to read as time goes on IMO.

Mmmmm. why do you want a flip of Vas, since there is a possibility of janitoring??? We might get NO FLIP at all. Lynching for "information" is like, the worst possible reason in this game - at least until the scum have used up their lynch mop on a player.

We were talking about a vig shot. Any player who is vigged can't be janitored.

[Papa Zito]

BTW HAY TAJO AM I SCUM THIS GAME?

I HAVE NO IDEA. ARE YOU VOTING ONE OF VASUDEVA, AMISHED OR MIKE? IF YES, TOWN.

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Soooooooo I've been pushing Hoopla all day and despite that + multiple votecounts (Patrick is a good mod, see) you somehow don't know who I'm voting.

PLUS you have the distinction of being the only person on this site that can read me reliably and you have no idea?

HMM SAYS I

Mmmmm. why do you want a flip of Vas, since there is a possibility of janitoring??? We might get NO FLIP at all. Lynching for "information" is like, the worst possible reason in this game - at least until the scum have used up their lynch mop on a player.

DGB, darlin, you might want to go back and read what he's saying again.

BTW, I hope the scum team was super awesome and gave us 4 vigs because holy crap would that be fun. Although with SpyreX in this game and town I doubt they gave us even one.

KMD isn't going to get easier to read, he's lurking.

KMD is easier to read as time goes on yes. He'll be dealt with in the next couple days regardless.

[Amished]

Glad to see you're town, PZ.

[mith]

populartajo: My top 4 at the time included zoraster, not ooba. Could you elaborate on why you don't like that top 4 (and what zoraster's 413 has to do with that)?

"Why the hell is she doing this if she is town?" - Exactly.

Re: Janitor. What Rhinox said.

Re: Vig(s). Definitely should be used to narrow down our field of suspects. Hopefully that was obvious to everyone anyway.

Unofficial vote count:

Hoopla (8) -- Papa Zito, Amished, mith, Plumegranate, Elmo, Seraphim, DrippingGoofball, Rhinox
zoraster (3) -- Kmd4390, ooba, VasudeVa
VasudeVa (2) -- populartajo, SpyreX
Kmd4390 (2) -- Herodotus, ekiM
Papa Zito (1) -- Zorblag
Herodotus (1) -- Hoopla
DrippingGoofball (1) -- zoraster
Not Voting: SaintKerrigan, Ellibereth

Deadline: ~15 hours.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, darlin, you might want to go back and read what he's saying again.

Thank you for correctly pointing out that I'm smoking crack.

[ooba]

Back .. Catching up ..

[Patrick]

Votecount

Hoopla (8) -- Papa Zito, Amished, mith, Plumegranate, Elmo, Seraphim, DrippingGoofball, Rhinox
VasudeVa (2) -- populartajo, SpyreX
zoraster (3) -- Kmd4390, ooba, VasudeVa
Papa Zito (1) -- Zorblag
Herodotus (1) -- Hoopla
Kmd4390 (2) -- Herodotus, ekiM
DrippingGoofball (1) -- zoraster

Not Voting: SaintKerrigan, Ellibereth

With 20 alive, 11 votes will be needed to lynch. Deadline: 25th of August, at 12:30 am US Central Time.

[Papa Zito]

unvote

What was this for again?

[Kmd4390]

Ok, I see the deadline, so tonight, I'm going to read til my eyes bleed. It might not be til 2 or 3 in the morning, but I don't care. I'm doin' it up.

[Herodotus]

Could we have prods? Saintkerrigan definitely qualifies, others probably do.
I was expecting Zorblag would be back from V/LA before now.

@KMD: If you're in the timezone I think you're in, 2 or 3 AM would be after the deadline.