A Clash of Kings - A Divided Kingdom

[CSL]

Hi all. Yesterday night, and into early morning, I have re-read this game. However, I did forget to write down notes, so I'm going to just try to remember what my reads were. Here goes.

TOWN READS

Percy
Drippereth
Richard (claim believable)
Mina

SCUM READS

Kleedrac (Richard's claim is believable, so this guy looks scum)
Deer (He quit, and I have a scumread on him anyway)
danakillsu (Not been doing a good job, lately. I want to see him scumhunt a bit more)

Everyone else is either a neutral read, or lurkerscumbag


So, the following is as follows

VOTE: Kleedrac

Raise: Percy

[CSL]

Analyzing Kleedrac's 12 posts...

1: First post was random, but he was the first one to raise himself.

3: A case on CMAR. I do have a slight suspicion of CMAR, and a scumread on Kleedrac, and votes him. Also comes up with an excuse as to why he wasn't posting.

4: He didn't find anything scummy about Richard, while everyone and their grandmother were wanting his death at the time. SCUMMY.

5: Quotes Drippereth, and plays the clueless card. SCUMMY.

6: "Everyone else is scum" VERY SCUMMY.

7: Says again that CMAR is scum. Calls Drippereth on bad logic when everything they say is logic. SCUMMY

8: Don't assume all are scum. Your wish could come true in some game.

10: I SEE AN OMGUS VOTE! EXTRA SCUM POINTS FOR YOU!!!

11: Plays the newbie card. Scummy.

12: And after all that he did not answer anything.

Conclusion:

Distancing and OMGUS votes are scum strategies that this guy didn't close up all the way. This guy is scum. CASE CLOSED. Why the hell isn't he lynched yet?

[CSL]

vezopiraka, you were already voting Kleedrac. Check the votecount on the last page.

[CSL]

Richard, your claim is believable. If you end up getting nightkilled, and you are what you claim, which is pretty much accurate, the person who is to kill can kill from yours, or his/hers, list of suspects.

That said, I am not for a Richard lynch today. Anyone wanting his lynch should be lynched on the spot.

[CSL]

That's how I usually do it. I'm backwards in some ways, where I vote, and then give proof.

[CSL]

Be warned. I am unable to post tomorrow. Going to be in a vehicle all day.

I'll only have time for this game, and that's that.

[CSL]

UNVOTE

VOTE: CMAR

Time is running out. And a lynch > a no lynch

[CSL]

I have a bigger scumread off of CMAR right now. Raivann can wait until tomorrow.

[CSL]

I was intending this to be much shorter. Ack, trying to make yet another wall more readable by splitting it into several posts.

Part I: CSL and SSBF

I have a bigger scumread off of CMAR right now.

And...what is the scumread based on? Why do you suspect CMAR more than Raivann? Why do you suspect CMAR, in fact?

He's been making scummy posts. I'll get to fully analysing him tomorrow, if no one hammers. (If a hammer happens before I get to it, the player who did is scum)

Raivann can wait until tomorrow.

So if you're saying we should lynch Raivann tomorrow, are you implying that he's your second top suspect? Do you suspect him more than

Kleedrac

, who you seemed convinced was scum before? Why do you suspect Raivann?

Kleedrac is still my prime suspect. However, I would be happy if either CMAR or Raivann would be lynched as well.

I have another question for you after you answer these.

(Oh, and since I have no manners, welcome to the game, CSL, Budja, and Thor. Thanks for replacing in.)

:)

My answers are in bold.

[CSL]

We have time to make a lynch. Don't waste it.

Raivann's claim is not safe to assume to be clear. We should keep a close eye on him during this game.

As it was said before, if CMAR flips scum, Raivann is obvscum

Bud / Kleedrac is scummy still.

[CSL]

CMAR does not post alot. Matter of fact, he has three post within 5-8 days between each other. Also, the majority of his posts revolve around Richard, then as soon as he claims, he makes two posts, then doesn't post for 8 days. If he flips town, I am seriously considering rereading the thread in it's entirety.

Overall, all he did was build a case on Richard which was dispelled after the claim, then hides. He needs to go, now.

[CSL]

Mina. A lynch > No Lynch

The CMAR wagon had more steam in it, therefore, I voted CMAR for the sake of a lynch.

[CSL]

Well, back to my lynch that I preferred since Day 1.

Vote: Kleedrac

I would also vote Vezok for the aforementioned reasons.

[CSL]

WHOOPS, FORGOT THAT BUDJA REPLACED HIM, AND IS NOW DEAD! DISREGARD!!!

[CSL]

Sorry...extremely busy tomorrow and possibly Thursday. Hence my limited access alert.

I am going to conduct a re-read tonight, barring unforeseen circumstances.

[CSL]

Wait...WHAT? SSBF is not 100% town. Lern2read.

FOS: Richard

I want evidence to prove he's town. I don't get it, you are scum. You have the rest of Day 2. Go.

[CSL]

OOOOOOOOO! I see post numbers now!

Vote me all you want. I usually get lynched all the time, actually.

But, I want to do this...

Vote: SSBF
HoS: danakillsu

[CSL]

Honestly, I'm willing to flip my vote to dana if deadline lingers near.

[CSL]

Maybe. I'm trying something new every game.

[CSL]

@ Mina: I went from Raivann to CMAR because a lynch > No lynch.

Why I voted SSBF and HOS'd dana? dana has done nothing but talk useless crap, but is at least trying to go the other direction. SSBF is MUCH MUCH worse.

Benmage is lurkerscum, by the way.

That said, I said earlier I am willing to vote dana if it looks like he's today's lynch.

[CSL]

Note to self: ISO someone first before calling them lurkerscum.

[CSL]

Why is it bull, dana?

[CSL]

I like dana's answer, but now I think about it, he could be a scum jailor.

The only way to find out if he's telling the truth is to lynch him, tbh.

UNVOTE; VOTE: danakillsu

If my math is correct, he be at L-2?

[CSL]

I like dana's answer, but now I think about it, he could be a scum jailor.

The only way to find out if he's telling the truth is to lynch him, tbh.

UNVOTE; VOTE: danakillsu

If my math is correct, he be at L-2?

No it's not.

Learn to read. He had eight, then Benmage placed a vote on him, then I did, and it's 12 to lynch.

As I stated earlier, I will switch to dana if he looks like today's lynch candidate. I switched. End of story.

[CSL]

dana, I see a hint of AtE in your post.

[CSL]

Mina, the ONLY reason you are saying the case is stronger against me is because YOU'RE ON THE WAGON YOURSELF.

ALSO, look at Antartic Winter-Over Mafia. A TOWN PLAYER said "a lynch > no lynch" and he got lynched, BUT HE WAS TOWN!

So, maybe YOU'RE the scum trying to get me lynched? Maybe I have to ISO you AGAIN to see if my reads have changed?!?

Also, I am Maester Luwin, Innocent Aligned. I have no powers, thus making me a Townie. I don't give a rats ass if I wasn't asked to claim. I claimed. Tough shit.

My vote stands.

[CSL]

Says I'm a Maester of Winterfell and a trusted advisor to the Starks. In this war I'm supposed help the people who need it and do my best in your efforts to rid the world of the scum.

Anything else?

[CSL]

Mina will say I'm scummier because she's on my wagon. Everything else is a blatant nulltell.

[CSL]

Like I had any damned abilities in the first place.

Also, the threshold for a lynch should lower, for today, as I don't have a vote anymore.

Mod ~ The threshold remains the same.

[CSL]

Ok, I have a proposal then.

We kill dana today, you can have at me tomorrow.

But you will still be wrong.

Also, I stabbed dana.

[CSL]

Like I had any damned abilities in the first place.

[CSL]

I believe deadline is tomorrow night. We need to lynch someone before nightfall.

[CSL]

Sorry...was confuzzed with another game...:S

[CSL]

Sorry, I thought being stabbed and voteless means that I couldn't help town get a damned lynch.

[CSL]

ARGH! I hate deadlines!

There's lots of stuff I want to comment on, but you know what?

Vote: vezokpiraka

(I stopped caring after reading the vote)

Excuse me? Why didn't you hammer dana, since he's the closest to a lynch, and deadline is practically BREATHING DOWN OUR NECKS?!?

If dana is scum, I'd keep a close eye on you, Mina.

[CSL]

Step Forward

I am not lying about my role, and I will do this to prove it.

[CSL]

Kill vezok or SSBF, and lynch the other, am I right?

[CSL]

As I was browsing this thread today, I found something peculiar.

Every page I read, I found at the bottom that SSBF was on the active list.

I expected a huge post by him, but no.

Activelurker = scum!

Vote: SSBF

DIESCUMDIE

Also, Percy's flip was surprising. I had him pegged as town. Whoever shot him, good job!

[CSL]

Unvote

as requested. Forgot about the cop thing as well.

[CSL]

V/LA from playing until my head clears.

[CSL]

Gonna reread tonight. If I don't have a response by midnight, lynch me.

[CSL]

I bet you want to know my opinion of SSBF's claim.

Whilst it might be true that the scum are given fakeclaims, if he's willing to cut down undesirable players like vezok, then leave him be.

[CSL]

About the CMAR vs Raivann: CMAR was lacking in post depth after Richard's claim, then everyone and their mother jumped on his bandwagon, and, given that deadline was too close, switched bandwagons.

About the guilty claim on Percy: Didn't read the thread.

About SSBF planning to kill me: If it's for the good of the town, I lay my life down.

[CSL]

I want to lynch Unsight today.

Vote: Unsight

[CSL]

Technically a week until deadline...

[CSL]

EBWOP: Also, does anyone notice the difference in text size before and after a votecount?

[CSL]

Why isn't Unsight dead yet?

[CSL]

If anyone hammers before Mina does the paraphrase and Mina dies the next night, the person who hammers should hang instantly.

This.

[CSL]

Matter of fact, I'm going to make sure that Mina gets it done.

unvote

[CSL]

Benmage, did you do one on Unsight?

If not, I suggest you do one.

[CSL]

L-3. I unvoted to ensure Mina posts her big post she promised us. :/

[CSL]

I'm putting my vote back on Unsight sometime before deadline.

[CSL]

vote: unsight

Running out of time.

[CSL]

If it would've been the hammer, I wouldn't have voted. :/

[CSL]

Quick check. I'm not dead?

[CSL]

Rereading tomorrow. SSBF is noted as likely serial killer.

Unsight can go too.

[CSL]

I have to V/LA again for a bit, as a friend of mine who graduated with me in high school in May died in a car accident. Return day at the latest Friday. Thanks.

[CSL]

Mod: Confirmed date of return is Friday.

And I swore I voted SSBF, turns out I didn't.

Leaving you all today with

VOTE: SSBF

[CSL]

Ending V/LA early. Note that all my time on weekends is reserved for modding.

[CSL]

VOTE: SSBF

-sigh-

NOTED AND FIXED THANKS

[CSL]

Once I flip town, you'll have bigger fish to fry. Like Unsight, who also NEEDS TO DIE!

[CSL]

SSBF, if you killed me last night, they'd be going for vezok next, with you at the helm. That is why you are dying TODAY, along with whomever else is being lynched. If majority hit now, Axelrod would go down with you.

[CSL]

Meaning that if SSBF is not SK, which is unlikely, and he killed me last night, you all would've most likely lynch vezok and Unsight.

But now, we have a likely SK and a townie possibly being lynched. (by townie, I mean me)

Well, at least the likely SK is going down...

[CSL]

Mina, is this how you really play? Why are you calling it terrible?

Yes, you must answer these questions.

[CSL]

More votes on Axelrod and SSBF, plox.

[CSL]

UNVOTE: SSBF
VOTE: Axelrod

Anxiety killed the Day.

[CSL]

Ah shit. I knew I forgot something.

[CSL]

Apology accepted Mina.

Despite what my last two votes conveyed to you, I did not know that was the hammer. I have problems with anxiety.

I would've been afraid, had I known that was the hammer.

[CSL]

I fail.

Vote: CSL

At least we got rid of the serial killer.

[CSL]

Uh, look who, especially WHAT, I hammered without a claim.

[CSL]

Unvote

Like I care. I'm going to end up being lynched anyways.

[CSL]

Wow. I actually thought you were going to lynch me for accidently hammering the doctor.

Times have changed.

[CSL]

Nasty names? Are they far better or far worse than the ones you called me in-thread after-hammer?

That said, I need to step up my game if I'm going to live through it.

[CSL]

I understand.

[CSL]

Wow. That was quick...

VOTE: Macavitar

[CSL]

Yeah. Don't do the same shit I did yesterDay.

[CSL]

Mina, your metaphor makes sense.

[CSL]

He may have killed him. There were no vig counter-claims when SSBF claimed vig, so I'm guessing he's a Lannister. I don't believe that Greyjoys would be killing other Greyjoys.

[CSL]

Macavitar is at L-1.

I advise against hammering until everyone gets their points out. I've already voted, so...

[CSL]

Speaking of paranoia, I'm shaking in it.

[CSL]

@ Mina: That statement meant, to me anyways, that he was scum trying to be town, and got killed for it. If this does not make sense, I'll try to re-word it.

[CSL]

Then you need to bite his head off, and go solo.

[CSL]

Ah. Ok.

[CSL]

Macavitar is, once again, at L-1...

[CSL]

If Mina and everyone else is ready for Day to end, say so.

[CSL]

@ Non-voters: If you hammer before Mina makes her post(s), I'm voting you first thing.

Off-topic: No AC = Bad. Don't burn to death! :]

[CSL]

@ Mina: Poor gut read. Reiterating my statement earlier. "At least I got rid of the serial killer (before more votes ended up on me causing a town double-lynch)" (Parenthesis denotes added words)

That does not mean I don't find Unsight scummy. Once Macaviter flips (any), I'm voting Unsight.

[CSL]

I'm ready to send this game to night.

[CSL]

Wow, Richard. Role-fish much?

[CSL]

Macavitar, try bolding it...

[CSL]

Richard, explain your reasoning why he should paraphrase. You won't get what you want until you do.

[CSL]

And we'd like it now, hascow, as some of us want this Day to end...

[CSL]

No hammering. Mina posts first.

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Lol. I find that humorous.

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And 101 posts.

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The 26th, or the Saturday closest to the 26th.

3 weeks from August 28th.

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No, I wasn't trying to say it. I don't even know who's Greyjoy or Lannister.

I do not think he is a power role, nor did I ever. If he is one, then that's an obvious breadcrumb.

[CSL]

Yeah. Consider my words in past tense. Sorry for the wrong grammar.

[CSL]

Never really paid much attention to him.

[CSL]

Mac's claim is believable. This, I go back to who I think was scum in the first place.

UNVOTE; VOTE: Unsight

More in a bit.

[CSL]

I have no opinion of what team he's on. It's one less anti-town around.

[CSL]

CSL is ridiculous. He doesn't seem to think like a normal human being.

That's because I'm autistic. You have a problem with that?

[CSL]

Oh, by the way, I'm now as confident as hasdsapfo that Mina is town.

This.

[CSL]

Not using it as a crutch.

[CSL]

Hascow, that is the best idea I have heard this Day.

Unvote; Vote: No Lynch

[CSL]

Gah. I REALLY need to stop flip-flopping like that!

That's it. No more distractions. Die, Unsightscum.

unvote; vote: Unsight

[CSL]

Mod: You have me voting Unsight twice.

[CSL]

About 5 hours remain.

Someone, hammer. NOW!! There's no time to be stalling.

[CSL]

Unsight, you can bet your ass I'm getting it right.

[CSL]

We have 5 hours.

If 3 other people can get Mac to L-1, I'll hammer.

[CSL]

Two more until I play the hammervote.

I WILL be on until deadline, if that helps any.

[CSL]

Mafia could no-kill.

I will agree with that, but only on a night where 2 deaths happen (after SSBF lynch) or 3 deaths happen (Before SSBF lynch)

[CSL]

True.

1.5 hours until deadline. I don't see an Unsight lynch now...

[CSL]

Hascow, quickly!!!

[CSL]

Oh. Thought that was a switch to Mac... Fail comp.

[CSL]

Yeah. Hope Unsight is scum...

[CSL]

Why the finger?

[CSL]

Magna is scum?

Vote: Macavitar

[CSL]

I was going to lynch MoI in lylo anyways.

FoS CSL

Why the finger?

Answer, please.

[CSL]

I see.

[CSL]

Yeah. Why?

[CSL]

Richard, MoI is always v/la on weekends.

[CSL]

It's all WIFOM to us...

But yeah, Magna's guaranteed scum in my perspective.

Unvote; Vote: Magna

[CSL]

Mac. Why diddin?

[CSL]

Reasons. Now.

[CSL]

I meant reasons as to why Magnascum is townier than I am.

Why isn't Magna lynched yet?

[CSL]

FAIL.

Magna is Greyjoy scum. Mac is Lannister scum. Lynch one of these two now.

[CSL]

Currently waiting on Mac as to why diddin is scum.

Mac and Magna are the most likely scums.

[CSL]

diddin, you didn't go through the scenario "If CSL is town" FYI.

That said, Mac's last post is just oozing of Lannister scumjuice. He only mentions that word once, under the second quote.

He's Greyjoy hunting, and not giving a shit about Lannister hunting. He's L-Scum.

I know I've been wrong the whole time, but this dude is scum.

Unvote; Vote: Mac

[CSL]

CSL, if you are town, you are voting for someone who is not guaranteed scum over someone who is guaranteed scum. You have 1 post to rectify this situation.

OMG! VOTEHOPPING! HE MUST BE SCUMZ!

Unvote; Vote: Magna

Oh, and Richard's post effectively puts me at L-1. I'm still going to claim the same role I have been all game.

[CSL]

That was me in the midst of waking up. Sorry.

diddin, I'm still waiting on you.

[CSL]

I got to bed at 2 in the morning. I'm a heavy sleeper.

[CSL]

Once Magna flips Greyjoy, I'm confirmed town.

Once Mac flips Lannister, you're confirmed town.

Once both of them are dead, town wins. Plain and simple.

[CSL]

ITT: Mac has biased assumptions because he's trying to get town lynched, because he's lannister scum.

[CSL]

I was just pointing out what diddin thinks. Did I say those were my thoughts? No.

Magna is obvGreyjoy, while Mac is most likely Lannister.

[CSL]

And then, this whole thread goes unnoticed by everyone for one entire day.

Seriously people, post in here!

And why isn't Magna lynched yet?

[CSL]

If I'm lynched, town loses.

Votes. Off.

Mac's last post has a truncated quote in it.

[CSL]

Magna's 6th post does reek of Greyjoy juice, but once I flip town, then the last townie gets to choose whether Greyjoy or Lannister wins.

If I was scum, I would've self-hammered by now.

[CSL]

Look at the last few games I've been scum in. Seriously. I haven't self-hammered as town in a long time.

[CSL]

First let me say welcome to Riavann and thanks to Deer. I wish more lurkers would have the good sense to replace rather than playing poorly.

Its definitely information over analysis. This kind of breakdown isnt available automatically, is it?

No it’s not automatically available. The point is that you’ve splattered the thread with a whole bunch of numbers but tell us nothing about what you think they mean. I ask again - Do 5 posts from someone like Mukuji (or insert your favorite low content poster) mean they are contributing more than 1 post from Percy (or a similar large content per post player)? Based on you list who are most likely to be scum?

You aren’t taking a stand. You are saying “Look at all these numbersâ€

[CSL]

No. I was just saying.

[CSL]

Look at the last few games I've been scum in. Seriously. I haven't self-hammered as town in a long time.

I swear, if you are stupid enough to hammer me, Magna dies tomorrow.

[CSL]

Mac is Lannister scum. Magna is Greyjoy scum.

GG.

[CSL]

You're only doing this because the only candidates for Greyjoy scum are the two of us. You are scum. Why aren't you lynched yet?

Mac is Lannister scum for millions of reasons already said, plus his vote on me screams it.

[CSL]

Well, I'm doing an ISO read of Magna tomorrow (not game tomorrow. RL tomorrow).

If I find myself lynched before then, I will NOT be a happy camper at endgame when we (town) LOSE.

[CSL]

Correction - you are the Greyjoy scum. You were scummy from the start and continue to be scummy.

We can do this all day. The only difference is that I'm Town when I say it while you are scum when you do.

From the start? Your read on my ISO does not reflect this.

You know what, we both are going to argue anyways, while Mac coasts. I think we should rid him first, so it's down to You vs Town.

[CSL]

No. You're obvscum. End of that.

Macavitar has been PoE'd as Lannister Scum. You want Kingmaker tomorrow, not me.

[CSL]

I bet in four hours, I won't have anyone convinced.

You want to vote me? Fine.

You want Town to lose? Fine.

You want Magna, Mac, and one Town player in a Kingmaker scenario? Fine.

Open your eyes.

[CSL]

My last post has already given you the go-ahead.

Town deserves this loss. Me, even more so.

Magna. Are you happy? Are you happy that you finally got my scummy-ass lynched? Are you fucking glad that now you will be in fucking Kingmaker with the last Lannister (Mac) and the rest of the town?

I accept the fact that Im a fucking VI, and the fact that you guys think I'm scum (which is WRONG), but with the way things are going, I don't have a FUCKING STRAND of EVIDENCE to counter this.

I'm done here, unless some sort of miracle happens.

Mod: If lynched, I do not want the deadtopic, if one exists.

[CSL]

CSL’s Tour de Force ISO –

Exhibit 1

– Lack of scum-hunting. Seriously, read his ISO. If you can find any semblance of a case made please bring it to my attention. In general his ISO is mostly contained with a series of one to two line posts.

In ISO 1 he throws together a ‘case’ on Kleedrac and ends with this gem –

Conclusion: Distancing and OMGUS votes are scum strategies that this guy didn't close up all the way. This guy is scum. CASE CLOSED. Why the hell isn't he lynched yet?

1. The word distancing doesn’t appear anywhere in the ISO before this. How was Kleedrac distancing when we have no scum flips and he mentions not one of his other ISO 0 scum-reads in ISO 1?
2. OMGUS isn’t a scum-tell.
3. Not the rhetoric at the end? Sound familiar? Yet somehow that slot flipped Town.

1. If that was my ISO 1, and my first post of content, then the first statement is null.
2. Your point?
3. Doesn't everyone make mistakes

ISO 12 – Votes Kleedrac even after his slot died Night 1. Shows a lazy approach to scum-hunting that is likely coming from scum.

Or, forgot that Budja replaced him, and Budja died.

ISO 19 – Called Benmage lurker-scum, and immediately retracted in ISO 20. More lazy scum-hunting.

He kept saying he'l catch up. Then noticed he posted far more than I realized. Null

About the guilty claim on Percy: Didn't read the thread.

Kinda hard to actually scum-hunt when you don’t even read the thread.

Kinda hard to ISO when you're trying to get town lynched.

After 42 I challenge you to find a post that shows accusations against a player that isn’t a simple 1 or 2 line post with no support.

Exhibit 2

– Greyjoy interactions.

ISO 0 – Throws down a Town / Scum list on replace in that throws the Raivann slot as scum yet votes for Kleedrac.

Not an interaction. I had Kleedrac as more scum than Raivann. Stop twisting words.

Later in ISO 7, despite not having CMAR in his Town / Scum list from ISO 0 and only mentioning CMAR in his Kleedrac case he has a ‘bigger’ scum-read from CMAR and states Raivann ‘can wait’. This is before Raivann claimed.

No evidence to support that logic. Try again.

After Raivann’s claim we get the following –

Raivann's claim is not safe to assume to be clear. We should keep a close eye on him during this game.

As it was said before, if CMAR flips scum, Raivann is obvscum

1. Reads as distancing from Raivann now that the claim has saved him.
2. Note the attempt to link CMAR scum to Raivann scum. Preparing to say Raivann might not be scum when CMAR eventually flips Town?

1. I never cleared him as town. Nice misrep.
2. I did not say that. Misrep noted.

Nary any significant appearances by either Percy or Muki to be found.

Exhibit 3

– Catch-all other weirdness

An undercurrent of buddying in general – Read the ISO and look at the way he defers to veteran players like Drip and Mina.

What I usually do. Null.

ISO 25 – Claims at approximately L-9 a Vanilla role.

Invalid. Not a scumtell.

UNVOTE: SSBF
VOTE: Axelrod

Anxiety killed the Day.

Let’s not forget this gem – CSL hammers the Town Doctor without even asking for a claim. After seeing Muki flip watcher and tying in some statements Muki made alluding to seeing multiple people on Locke it makes sense why CSL-Greyjoy would want to hammer without giving Axel a chance to claim.

Misrep noted. Never knew he was at L-1. Don't ask me why I said that anxiety part. No idea where that came from.

Wow. I actually thought you were going to lynch me for accidently hammering the doctor.

Times have changed.

Open acknowledgment that his move was scummy and he is shocked to not be lynched. Not a Town perspective.

It sure ain't a scum perspective.

Mac's claim is believable. This, I go back to who I think was scum in the first place.

Note the inconsistency here. Mac’s claim is believable until Unsight is lynched and suddenly at the dawning of the next day he immediately votes Mac with nary a word why he reversed his thinking.

Unsight's final words. Read them. Misrep.

Then we have this series of posts regarding myself –

Magna is scum?

I was going to lynch MoI in lylo anyways.

These both come from Today before Mac explained to CSL that if he was Town I had to be scum via PoE. Do they sound like someone 'sure' I am scum? Why would CSL-Town want to wait for LYLO for my lynch if I am scum? Yet after Mac points out the obvious logic to CSL suddenly I’m obvscum. The inconsistency is glaring.

Misrep DULY noted. Try again. If Mina was still alive, you'd likely be lynched, thus, you killed her.

And now CSL has spiralled into a wave of Appealing to Fear (lynch me and we lose) and rhetoric. Still no visible signs of scum-hunting from him.

This is usual. Null.

In summary I think this pretty clearly spells out why I’m going to

Confirm VOTE: CSL

Responses in bold.

[CSL]

Hey guys, CSL did this in Super Smash Bros Mafia too (I think Magna already pointed this out). He was scum there.

HAMMER TIME

Vote: CSL

If I have this wrong apologies to everyone. I await the dead QT reactions to this.

Null. I always do this.

[CSL]

A few games, actually.

Have to dig through the archive.

[CSL]

http://67.222.17.61/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12145

http://67.222.17.61/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12707

Are the two that I can think of at the top of my head.

[CSL]

unvote; Vote: CSL

Good job, Magna. They'll lynch you tomorrow.

In other words: WRONG!

[CSL]

Town loss, anyways.

I'm rooting for Lannister. I don't want Greyjoy to get a win, and town deserves this loss.

[CSL]

You already see my rage.

[CSL]

But yeah, either draw the tie for both scum, or lynch Magna.

Damn. This would've been easier for us if we lynched Mac today.

[CSL]

What I was so peeved about, that we didn't lynch Mac on Town lylo. I guess my frustration was taken too far, and then, well, that happened.

The way town played was unforgivable...

[CSL]

What I was so peeved about, that we didn't lynch Mac on Town lylo. I guess my frustration was taken too far, and then, well, that happened.

The way town played was unforgivable...

SHUT UP! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT BAD TOWN PLAY.

Thanks to the game mods, you both did a really great job. The flavor was awesome, the events were cool (even if I only got to participate in 2 of them) and I think the balance was mostly right, maybe even slightly town tilted (which just makes this town loss even more unbelievable).

I am simply stunned that we lost this game. Simply stunned. I have a really deep rage right now at a number of players.

IMO CSL should be site banned for that town self hammer. Absolutely unforgivable.

IMO Richard should be avoided at all costs. Confirmed town from D2 and lives to D6(7?) and does absolutely NOTHING to help this town win. While being a dick about it, with posts like "haha, I should have been prodded but I wasn't". What a complete jerk.

I'm happy with my play this game, except for my D1 scum team case against Richard-Axel-CMAR, all three of which flipped town. That said I succeeded in inviting 4 townies to the KG, and the 2 scum I did felt more like I forced myself to do them than picked them. I wanted the hand in the QT to try and get a better read of him, and I wanted the "vig" in so we could direct his kills. At various points D1 I had xvart/Mac/MoI on my invitee list and removed all of them, while adding Cow and Mina late in D1.

Grats to the scum teams. In particular to Mac. Being able to convince the town to not lynch you when you've been tracked to a night kill is remarkable. Fooling them the second time is just astonishing. Well played.

I seen DMSIS do worse, and he's still playing.

Everybody has their BAD BAD games in some point or another, have you had yours yet?

[CSL]

That's why I'm counting this as a triple loss.

One for Loss

One for self-hammer

and One for bad play.

[CSL]

Actually, LMP should be warned for his asshole-like behavior postgame. That's just not sportsmanlike.

[CSL]

http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/6ea3DSCkZLYNB

[CSL]

SSBF, if you killed me, none of this would've happened.

[CSL]

Lesson Learned: Never EVER self-hammer again.