Earth's Struggle - Game Over!

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/confirm.

The Animorphs are good guys, and clearly fighters for the saving of Earth.

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You've played with me a long time ago, I'm sure.

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I have now caught up.

I disagree with all the popular wagons/FoS's. NS, Tog, DGB, Ani (especially Ani), TL, all of them. Do I think the people on them are/aren't scummy? Who knows. But I think they are the wrong places to look for today's lynch. Because I, as I always do, expect there to be at least two anti-town forces in the game. It's how every large game I've been in has gone, and I do not expect that to have changed at all. And, in this game, with this mod, I'm expecting two mafia groups and probably a 3rd party killing role. And I feel that the major lynches are being either controlled or backed by these people, and most are full of bs "logic" and "scumtells" that either don't exist or aren't explained or are over-exaggerated and I don't feel like dealing with that. So I don't want to look at them for the day yet. I'd rather focus on more under-the-radar folks. Like Chronopie. Who has a lot of posts that either deal with nothing, pretend to deal with something but deal with nothing, or deal with things that are obvious and do not matter and thusly deal with nothing. On top of that, Chronopie shows up to "defend" themselves, ask what do they need to answer/explain for everyone, and then proceed to not do it. VOTE: Chronopie. You can die now.

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NS's recent behavior (i.e. giving up) has really forced me to change my stance. I still think my target is scum, no doubt, however nothing about giving up in that fashion is even remotely pro-town. VOTE: Nobody Special.

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Think of it this way.

If NS scum, DGB town.

If NS town,

FoS: DGB

I disagree. NS being scum clears DGB of nothing. It might make her a hell of a lot less likely to be on the same scumteam (though not completely), but doesn't make her town.

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Bastard modding/jokes and jokes and jokes and jokes and ha haha haha, spaghetti, spaghetti, spaghetti...

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Now wait one damned moment here. DGB ISN'T Moses?

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EBWOP: CSL's gonna be disappointed.

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Team Jacob ftw.

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People be hatin' on my Twilightz. And on my Team Jacob. A tribe of shapeshifters who take the form of giant fucking wolves? Are you kidding me? Only think better is if they turned into giant fucking TIGERS!!!

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VOTE: Chronopie. You can die now.

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You guys are idiots. I claimed Mere Human, before it was in anyway indicative of Alignment/role.

VOTE: Chronopie. You can die now.

Reasons pl0x

Actually, reasons pl0x all.

I'd rather focus on more under-the-radar folks. Like Chronopie. Who has a lot of posts that either deal with nothing, pretend to deal with something but deal with nothing, or deal with things that are obvious and do not matter and thusly deal with nothing. On top of that, Chronopie shows up to "defend" themselves, ask what do they need to answer/explain for everyone, and then proceed to not do it. VOTE: Chronopie. You can die now.

I gave them a while back.

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Considering the way he was just falling apart at the end of the day, and the way he had given up and was determined to not say anything even remotely non-scummish, I think I can lice with you not liking my hammer.

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EBWOP: that should read "I think I can live with".

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Nika, are you quite certain that you don't simply have one of the Tech Tree abilities activated, rather than having an innate ability specific to your role?

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Remember the pregame thing? Maybe that counted as a Twilight. There was some talk about how the powers worked back on, like, page 3.

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Yes we can move on, I just needed to be sure. Also, BM said Ani was more than likely a Jester, with no kind of "only Day 1" attachment, which I agree with.

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You are going to have to pull up instances of this "hinting" so that we may all see it.

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DGB is now scum. Read below.

She was so hard on Nobody Special, and convincing easy people like me on most nulltells. Ani still thinks I'm scum, but that was because of all the game we played, I flipped scum, which is an invalid reason.

I'm not voting NS because DGB voted him.

I'm voting NS because he's VOTE-HOPPING, and won't explain his REASONS for it.

You didn't vote for him earlier before DGB wanted a lynch on him?

I would still have voted NS even if DGB did not say anything.

(Besides, it was a pregame vote anyways that I voted him too, so your logic is moot)

@ DGB: Isn't that what I was trying to explain to those people a page ago?

You know, I just realized something.

If Toogleloo is town, NS and SharkFinn are scum.

Vote: Nobody Special

Animorpherv1, I still do not understand your case on me. Either get a good case on me in your next post, or find someone else to vote.

Nobody Special is scum. He needs lynched.

NS's threat is a red herring.

He is only doing that because he is scum.

Don't you bloody dare try pulling that one. You coax everyone's memory of how much DBG was gunning for NS yesterday, and of how much everyone pointed to how you seemed to be blindly following her, and talk about how she convinced you, but your own words damn you, as it clearly shows that you went after NS of your own accord. I suspect you as scum jumping onto the easy wagon. Then you attack her by stating that she's just attacking anyone who says anything to her, after she pointed out something Midnight was legit doing - which he tired to back out of by stating he didn't expect her to answer the question, but if that were the case, there'd be no reason to ask it in the first damned place, and it was a question that scum would love answered - and you jumped to his defense chainsaw style. Midnight is, no doubt, also scum. All of that up there, though? That was all you. All you giving evidence, since we all seem to remember so well that DGB never really gave reasons to her NS vote, just did a lot of pushing. You, however, gave reasons in between your pushing, and openly stated that it was not a case of you following DGB.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: CSL

Preview Edit:

Oh, come on, are you all really going to be that bloody dense? DGB used an ability(s?) that touched 4 different people in ways that she assumes they could tell who did it. Using an ability from the Tech Tree. It's not even remotely difficult to piece together from her breadcrumbs, and I'm rather mortified that it has to be spelled out like this by me.

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Trying to make my post look insignificant based on the fact that I hadn't posted much since placing my vote earlier does nothing to refute the points my post made. You are scum, Midnight most likely as well, it's a scum wagon, and there's obviously no point to continue it. You, however, should die today. Probably should have yesterday.

{b]Preview Edit: Anti-town she might be, but she is town. Don't waste your time lynching her just to try to get her out of here when CSL is far more scummy than she is. As in actually scummy, not anti-town.[/b][/color]

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EBWOP:

Wow, messed up those tags. Too used to having color in my posts, as well as hitting shift on accident.

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That's because if it's 5/18, it's a cult.

Even better reason to lynch DGB.

:mega-eyeroll:

And they'll be 3 more every night, too.

QFT.

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Then how in world do you expect me to vouch for you as town? Not happening.

Really.

I picked you, because I thought you were town.

I'm not making that mistake again.

Well, you were being vague enough that anyone who may or may not have gotten a tech tree advancement could be verified by you. It's easy to do as scum, and I don't buy it. That's like me saying anyone who didn't get Roleblocked last night, you can thank me.

Except that she pinpointed you.

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Odd. I do not want nor do I expect an explanation, so do not feel the need to give me one.

However, I do want to know what your opinions are of my case against CSL and Midnight, and how it compares to whatever case there is against DGB.

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I do not think Toog is the correct choice anymore than I think DGB is the correct choice. I just don't see it.

Also, my case of Midnight pretty much IS my case of CSL: chainsaw defense by CSL to protect Midnight.

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I want a dayvig in here.

If we had a dayvig, they'd have a much better target that we all already agreed upon, not a waste of it used on either Toog or DGB.

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I think certain people need to stop wasting there time protecting DGB and vote her already. The resistance is both unneeded and futile.

Vote DGB now please. Thanks~

No.

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Then die tomorrow when she flips scum.~

That'd make sense if I didn't have a reason for not going on that wagon.

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The mod noticed the new vote but forgot the take away the old vote. That's all that happened.

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I don't see that lynch. I don't see scum DGB right now.

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Star, I assume this is an ability from the Tech Tree, no? Only problem is I don't see any early ability that would give you the power to give you the type of search you said you did.

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I think we'll still get a lynch. The Twilight. Where we vote for most townie, and the person who loses that, overall with the combined total of votes from the Day, is lynched instead. We keep forgetting this game's lynch mechanics, despite appearances, are not normal. We do not pass straight into Night.

So UNVOTE: and VOTE: Midnight Sorrow, because I'm getting a major scummy vibe from this one. I also fully intend to vote DGB as most townie to prevent her lynch. As I do not want CSL as that fallback lynch (I need to see more of his play, as his recent play has been confusing my initial read), I'd rather set it up to be MS.

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If anything, DGB flipping scum would make BM scum. My protection comes from the fact that I don't see her as scum. I've stated this before. Threatening me with a lynch changes nothing.

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Calling me scum equates to calling for my lynch. does it happen at the same time you call me scum? Not always, but to call someone scum indicates that you intend to have them lynched. That is obvious. What I said stands.

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You really don't get it, do you? Just because you guys find her to be the best choice doesn't mean we do. And we can actually fight this instead of being dragged along with the majority, which happens to include at least one person we find scummy. We can fight it with an extension, and, if that fails, we can try to use the Twilight to help us. Talking in caps helps you none. It doesn't make you look right, it just makes you look desperate.

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This is absolutely all my doing. I regret nothing because you've done nothing to make me regret my vote.

IF YOU WANT SOMEONE TO HAMMER DGB EARLY THEN WHY DON'T YOU TRY PROVIDING A CASE AS OPPOSED TO JUST TELLING PEOPLE TO AND EXPECTING THEM TO FOLLOW YOU?

This hasn't happened. You just want to get information, according to what you say. Welp, I just want to get scum, so we seem to be at odds on this one.

Because there is one fucking day till deadline and the only player with a wagon on her is DGB.

Not quite true anymore.


Also, the threats of death and of being the next target seem to be rather pointless. I think we can figure out, by now, that you're raging about this situation. I don't know about them, but I certainly don't get swayed that easily by AtE. At best, all I care to do is ask you one question: so you mad?

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All I'm reading is: we will not explain anything, but you better do as we say "or else". As I told you, I'm not bothered by your threats and your AtE attempts. You'll have to do better than that to convince me, and I suspect you'll have to do better than that to convince the others as well.

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The fact that you do things like that certainly doesn't help any. You scream at people to follow you. You try to threaten and scare people into doing what you want. You are, at this point, relying solely upon AtE. You've been tunneling on her nearly the whole game, but I don't really know why. Except maybe that you knew her target D1 was town, and that you could possibly push her into being lynched. And then if she flipped town, you could say that you were just following what seemed logical to you, and though you might have to argue it for a bit, you'd no doubt get away with it.

Those are some reasons I can think of, off the top of my head, Midnight. Why don't you give me some of your reasons, just off the top of your head. I also like that your starting vote for today says that you were on DGB as your last vote yesterday. Have you forgotten? You tried to switch it, but I had hit the hammer before you.

Also, a non-hammer will not equate a non-lynching. I have stated many times that the voting mechanics are not the normal kind. This is, after all, a theme game. Reread the rules. Our day lynch choice doesn't always end up as the kill. I've explained this before. Stop trying to use lies to persuade people. Make no mistake, after Twilight, there will be a lynch. And I intend to make it yours, MS.

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Right before my post, I saw preview that CSL had of stating that without a vote, we'd have no lynch. Which is not true.

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Never said that part was you. It was placed after the part where I talked about my case against you.

Also, yes, I am assuming. I am making assumptions based upon what I see. I make my choices based upon those assumptions. I also assume that it how this game it played.

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Assumptions arnt always right.

Correct. Quite like the assumption you're making now.

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Oh, so you can prove that she's scum? Then, surely, you can share that with the class, correct?

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Yes, yes I have. Don't give me that. That's nothing more than an excuse for you not to have to say anything. State your reasons.

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I strongly doubt you'll get enough support for that. Go ahead and try, though, if you think you can.

Now then. I can only see two reasons for not wanting to supply a case on DGB:

1) You do not have one.

2) You do not want to state the case, for fear of it being torn down.

You talk big about us withholding information from the town. Pray tell, what the hell do you think you yourself are doing?

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You intend to sway others when you cannot even answer simple questions? What happens if, say, Zazier asked you? Or Shark? How about Adrien? Would you also ignore them?

I do not profess to know her alignment by heart. I profess to not think her as scum, and therefore am not going to lynch her. I see you as scum, I've said this many times. It's not, as much as you try to make it, a case of me being against you because I just don't want her lynched. It's a case of me being against you because I think you're scum. You and CSL both. I hadn't been sure of CSL, because his playstyle switched up on me, but I'm quite sure again, bringing my initial cases against the both of you back into play.

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Wait, what, Haylen?

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BM, explain.

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No you don't. You jumped on my wagon(WHich by the way came out of the blue...like WHOA) without much hesitancy and with as much evidence as you keep spouting that the DGB case doesn't have. You haven't really stated why I'm scum, you just given aesthetic reason why I should be lynched. Why make the case you have sound more inteligent then it actually is?

Have you forgotten that theres been a DGB wagon since the beggining?

Oh, I had a reason. I stated it. Iso it if you don't believe it. Or don't. It's the post where I voted CSL today, and then also post where I switched to you. Those were the initial reasons. The way you've been acting also pile onto that, and leave me with wanting you before CSL, due to you taking more of a leadership role and CSL, once again, taking a backseat. You might have a more important function within the mafia group.

Or maybe CSL is mafia hiding in the shadows of two town players making mistakes. First he takes a backseat role to DGB. Now he takes a backseat role while you provide the major lead on DGB. That could very well be what's going on here, but I do not like the fact that you don't present anything.

And, BM, I do not at all like the trick you played. I don't see it as helpful at all.

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Or maybe your assumptions are, of course, WRONG. I'm town, now shut up and die.

Nice defense.

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Also, BM, there will end up being a lynch. Even if anti-DGB lynch people vote her for most protown, and the pro-DGB lynchers vote MS for town, there are, I believe, still others with votes on them. For instance, Zazier with the Shark vote.

Preview Edit: They are not aesthetic. They show a desperateness that increases as you saw me get momentum onto you for a wagon. You then proceed to not provide a case or list reasons other than information. Of course, you do understand that we also gain information from your lynch as well? Or any lynch that is argued over. So that point you try to shove down everyone's throat is moot. Furthermore, I mention repeated attempts at AtE. AtE, which you use in place of logic. This is not about getting under my skin. You haven't done that, because to do that, you'd have had to beat me in logic, which you haven't done due to being too busy using statements that attack emotional points with people. "Let's aim for DGB, she lead the assault that got a townie killed D1!" Have you said that? Nope. Not really saying you have, just saying that's what it's feeling like. I don't really know what your reasoning behind your targeting DGB is, you haven't stated it. This is not about annoyance, this is about being scummy.

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No, no you are confirmed nothing. In fact, if he flipped town and then she flipped town, I'd immediately push for your lynch.

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MS, with support from CSL, attempted to have you lynched. At L-1, I refused to hammer. And then others refused to hammer. Eventually, MS and CSL's own words and actions led to a majortiy vote swinging to MS instead of you. Though I didn't think it'd get there in time for the deadline, and had intended to tell everyone who was with me on not being on you to vote you for most townie, so that things would tip to give us a MS lynch in Twilight. Might not need that, though I've still gone through with the vote that I said I'd do.

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Aye, you did, indeed, help. As did others. sorry if it came out looking a different way.

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And how would that be?

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I've already said my piece on what ploy scumeCSL could be employing. And I'm pretty sure it's already assumed I'm fine with a CSL lynch. I mean, it's not like I mentioned anything about it yesterday.

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And I remembered that I didn't do the obvious thing: VOTE: CSL

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Vezo, there is no town reason to refuse to answer. Now answer the questions, please. Refusal to do so is incredibly scummy and deplorably anti-town.

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This is beyond being annoying. You're being blatantly scummy for no justifiable reason. This isn't the RVS stage where we might tolerate scummy actions as someone joking around. Answer the questions.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Vezok

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So, Nika, you find nothing scummy about Vezo's actions? Nothing at all? Cause I see more than just being stubborn. The literal reasoning was that it was because Vezo finds it amusing to annoy Zaier. However, regardless of who asked the questions, they are good questions and need to be answered for the entirety of the town. To refuse to do so isn't just "being stubborn".

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SOMETHING ELSE:
The Tech Tree Power Ups are decided along with another player. Before I left to Caffwaong, I powered up the following players:

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BattleMage
Nikanor

Which I can confirm.

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I did get DGB's upgrade last night. So i can confirm her ability.

BM already has. I had to wait longer, but I have it now.

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I like how your wagon is our helping. I like how you try to deflect attention away from you and onto your attackers by saying that their attacking of you to force you to answer the questions doesn't count for anything. I like how you mentioned questions, as if you yourself know anything of answering questions. I like how you mention claiming, and all we want is for you to answer questions.

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Waiting until L-2 to claim does NOTHING to help answering questions. I don't care to hear you come out with some incredible sounding role that is supposed to make us not want to lynch you. As DGB pointed out, you can easily be stalling to have created a fake-claim to get us off of you. So claiming saves you not. In fact, it might make you more scummy. You need to answer the questions.

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Not only were all of the questions not answered, but those that were were given half-ass excuses for attempts at answering, and gave no detail or insight at all to what you were thinking. All-in-all, completely unhelpful, and it seems purposefully so.

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Ghost Writer must be scum

Lol, and this is based on what?

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I've got to say, your cast of characters was ridiculous, in a good way.

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Assuming he's referencing the last day, what could he have done as town, seeing as everyone knew everyone, leaving a cross-kill-sneaky-town-victory out of the question.