Mini 1000: The Brave and the Beautiful (Game Over)

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Can I just /confirm here?

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>.>
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*runs away*

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Hi Neto and everyone else I know from before!

Also,

Vote: Sensfan

Quit stalking me.

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Alrighty...Question time!

1) Why do you play Mafia?

I play it because I like thinking, reasoning, and games that actually include real people. It's also pretty fun.

2) How many licks DOES it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?

Why don't we ask Mr. Owl? He seems like he'd know.

3) Can you describe your thought processes leading into this game?

Mild confusion about my role, followed by clarity, thenexcitement over the player list.

4) Let's say that you win the game. What conditions lead to that win? What qualities will the game have? Will it be ordered or chaotic, logical or gut-based, fast or drawn out?

It'll be chaotic, logical, and fast-paced. Anything other than that, and it just gets boring.

5) What is the square root of potato?

42

6) Can you please link me to the one game that you're most proud of on this site?

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 54&t=13488 Called 2 of 3 scum, found the player I needed to find on Night 1, and kept my interest/activity level up the whole time.

7) This is not a question.

But is it a penis? Freud would say so.

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In what way does this limit a player's content producing?

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Well then. It seems I have made myself out to be quite a fool now, haven't I?

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Unvote

Not ready for a lynch just yet.

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EBWOP:

Unvote

Not ready for a lynch just yet.

possibly BV; had something to do with this? But with it not going through, stepped away from voting in order to remove oneself from firing line? Just an idea not a FOS or anything like that

Oh, I'm still more than willing to hammer, especially now that Robo has claimed. I just wanted to hear a claim first.

Robo, if you didn't say before, who is your character?

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^And that right there is why I choose to

Vote: Robocopter

Future reference: Make your fakeclaims realistic.

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SpyreX is replacing in? Sweet!

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Welp, I'm all for giving anybody a shot at a plan, so

Unvote

for now.

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I can support either Furc or Shotty. They both are low enough on my list that I'm willing to lynch them, plus I feel like either of them will give us good information.

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There's a textbook for AtE? Cooooool.

Anyway, I'm going to reread as soon as possible. Probably by tonight or tomorrow.

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There's a textbook for AtE? Cooooool.

Anyway, I'm going to reread as soon as possible. Probably by tonight or tomorrow.

Are you really surprised? I mean there has got to be a textbook for lurking / active-lurking. It's in your library, right?

Nah, I'm a natural talent.

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Okay, so I've caught up the little amount I've missed. I fully support giving SpyreX his shot, at least for today, and in that vein, I'd like to

Unvote. Vote: Millar

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V/LA Until Monday

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'Sup, game I neglected for the last game day? I apologize for that, btw. I overloaded myself in games.

Anyway, now that I'm dead in a couple of those, I've caught up to this one somewhat.

From a flavour standpoint, I can see Kerrigan as maybe-scum, maybe-Miller. Samus and Cortana, definitely not. It's interesting that our D1 Lynch and one of the N2 kills have the same flavour to them. I'm not sure what this means, but it's odd.

Also,

REALLY lastly, mod why did you have to use the sluttiest pictures you could find? Seriously everyone needs to see the picture in my role PM when we're done.

Mine really isn't. Seeing all of the pictures so far is mildly amusing.

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On Page 1, both millar and SpyreX are listed as "Destroyed", while Neto is listed as "Shot"

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Just try not to teach her how to play Mafia lolz

NEVER! I will NOT corrupt her soul!!!

There's no escaping destiny.

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Also, probably should have mentioned this before, but my action last night failed too. Anybody else thinking global roleblock?

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I targeted Furc.

Also, I agree with both Muffin's and Iec's cases against Ythan and as such, I feel like Ythan is likely scum.

Unvote, Vote: Ythan

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Also, I am not responsible for Furc's ability being "Stolen".

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why did you suggest a mass roleblock bv310?

Because my ability failed, yours failed, and Robo claimed his did as well (initially).

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I think it might just be the player we targetted.

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In the vaguest re-wording of the PM, Furc tells me that I'm not needed, and I lose him in the corridors.

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Oy. Sorry for disappearing like that on you guys. I had to go out of town unexpectedly. I'm stealing wifi right now, so I should be able to keep up on the game pretty well. We're here until Friday at the earliest, so I'm on LA until then.

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Oh dear. It would appear that I've missed quite a bit. Rereading the last few pages. I have internet for the next two hours or so, so if anyone has any questions for me, now is the time to ask.

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Okay, so I've read up on the last couple pages that I've missed. First off,

Unvote

if I was voting.

Second, Furcolow. In reading over the thread, he is being actively unhelpful. This is extremely different from the last game I played with him, but in and of itself is not scummy. It is posts like his ISO 83 that seem particularly off. Why would you want to avoid confirming a player that many are having trouble reading? I also don't like his non-committal in the same post. "Ythan is guaranteed scum, but if he isn't then he's being obtuse so lynch him for that" is really a terrible attitude to have. Couple that with the fact that I've yet to see an actual case on your "guaranteed scum" and you are looking rather scummy. I also love your posts like iso 82 and 87. You're really quite eager to remind everyone that you're a townie.

Vote: Furcolow

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I'll get my Ythan thoughts up tomorrow.

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Invote, Vote: Robo

Not so much the claimed results, but his reaction is incredibly terribad.

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OK, I think I understand Muffin's explanation now. So you were told outright that your result was wrong (meaning Robo was town), but you are uncertain as to why it was wrong (e.g. insanity). Is that correct?

Yes

What in the hell? Why would a so-called cop be TOLD his investigation was wrong? That makes no sense.

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Seems pretty convincing to me.

Unvote, Vote: Shotty

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Does anybody have a condensed version of the name claims so far? I'm trying to collect my thoughts, and that's the one thing I still need.

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Seems pretty convincing to me.

Unvote, Vote: Shotty

what is convincing to you? i don't understand this vote. if you don't think he's a vig, what do you think he is? mafia? sk?

SK. I doubt Mafia would try to get themselves confirmed as Vig in the way Shotty did.

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That's the point though. He could probably coast by on a vig claim for three or four days before anyone started to get concerned, especially if a protective role believed him and protected him.

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I'd support a mass nameclaim. I don't think the scum have safeclaims, based on Millar's non-fakeclaiming D1.

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millar wanted to lynch me, and he's confirmed evil. he tried to push a lynch on me. i am way more confirmed than some thief.

What in the fuck are you on?

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That post was in response to both of yours Furc, not just the one I quoted.

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You know what? Fuck it. If Furc's not scum, he's the single most epic VI in my entire Mafiascum history. And he was so good in the last game we played together too.

Unvote, Vote: Furcolow

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It was Mafia in Mendo. I was the scum watcher in that game, and Furc (other than the epicly confusing colour talk) was actually pretty competent. http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 55&t=13799

He was vigged N1 by MPR, but that was more so because MPR shot based on gut rather than clearest anti-town play.

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I was the target of MoI's second ability. He is who he says he is, and I doubt he is scum as such. I don't want to reveal too much more, but I will if everybody wants me to, or if he wants me to.

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Furc, I'll probably say something along the lines of "Shit son, the mod done goofed".

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I'll have some time later to correct Kast's increadibly scummy comments.

But in the meantime look at the content (and I use the term loosely) of his posts.

He's spamming the thread with attacks, game and role speculation, and anything and everything but actual hunting.

The hallmark of desperate scum.

More votes for Obvscum Kast!

This, to me, reads like an appeal to emotion. MoI is begging people to find him cute and side with him with his word choice.

And this reads to me like someone trying to throw shit at a wall and see if it sticks.

BV: To be clear, you are claiming MoI used his second ability (N3) on you and it confirms him as town to you. Is this correct? If it does not actually confirm MoI, then please clarify.

Regardless, please share your thoughts on the discrepancy I raised.

It does not confirm him as town, but does confirm him as Rikku, who I HIGHLY doubt is scum in this game.

Also, what post are your referring to in the bolded? I couldn't find it in your iso.

PREVIEW EDIT: MoI's targeting of Furc N1 explains why I wasn't able to target him. Also, I reread my N1 PM, and it doesn't seem like I was unable to target him, but that I was simply not needed due to an other influence.

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@BV-
Please chime in and share some thoughts. A lot has been shared since your last post.

Care to summarize for me? I have no time to read everything. I will tell you one thing though, I will be willing to stake anything that MoI is town. His role, plus his abilities make very little sense as scum.

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– Furcolow
– Iecerint
– Kdub
– Muffin

Now of these, I couldn't find any claims, but I'm sure there are some, so if anyone feels like fixing it, go ahead.

I went ahead and decided to try and find a proper suspect, so I iso'd Furc. On doing so, I was struck immediately by several things:

1) Many of his posts are either non-committal or vague.

2) He often goes out of his way to refer to himself as town. as in post ISO 86.

Unvote, Vote: Furcolow

I'll try to get a proper case up in the near future, but I'm going into a three-day stretch of 16-hour work days, so I'd like you guys to simply do what I did and actually read him.

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SON OF A BITCH. Half my post just disappeared into the aether. One second.

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Try this again.

MoI's second ability confirms him as Rikku. Rikku, unless we are playing some weird alignment-swapped game, is very much a protagonist.

In response to #1, I believe Kast's claim, especially after the last few pages.

#2: I highly doubt that MoI is lying. I believe that the "Destroyed" kill flavour is a general one, while "shot" is more specific to Kast.

#3: The "evil smell" is more than likely just RC getting a little overzealous on the flavour.

Also, the point towards MoI in your post is about me. I'll explain later.

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I'll nameclaim, but I'd rather keep my role to myself and Magna for now. Magna's second ability gave us a QT to communicate which confirms him as Rikku.

I'm Alyx Vance, from the Half-Life series.

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1) Yes.

2) I asked, but he just sent me a reply that consisted of HAHAHAHAHAHA, and that's it.

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My role's confirmed to him, in that he "scanned" me before.

Kdub, I was talking about both of his abilities. Ability Thief + Neighbourizer would be WAY too overpowered as a scum role. Also, Kerrigan was basically confirmed scum as soon as she flipped, given that Kerrigan turns evil very quickly. Rikku is a protagonist in two separate FF-X games, and never turns evil.

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Alignment, yes. Other than that, no.

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We agreed in the QT that it is pretty bizarre that scum would leave both the cop and the vig alive for this long. We disagreed on whether Muffin was lying about his role.

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@Kdub-
It sounds like he's still referring to the stolen affiliation investigation as confirming his affiliation; it does not sound like BV is referring to MoI's neighborizer power as confirming affiliation.

QFT. I didn't realize that's where the issue was here.

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I figured Muffin was lying before going into the QT, then was surprised when MoI confirmed his role. To be honest, alot of my reasoning was based on gut and flavour speculation.

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Responding to prod. I'd like to hear from the replacement before we choose to do anything.

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Which, Mendo? I was a scum tracker that game. Don't see how it relates to this game.

So, Kast, what you're saying is, if you and one of the people you most suspected were both run up to L-1 or L-2, you wouldn't vote for your suspect. Good to know if I'm ever put up against you. Seriously, OMGUS is a condition of a vote where you make the vote based on little to no evidence solely because the other voted for you. This is not what is happening here, and your trying to insist that it is, is just wrong. If we weren't lynching Furc today, I'd be switching my vote to you.

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Woo!

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So all in all, I'm pretty happy with how I played this game. Not protecting Peach was a dumb move, but I thought a BP only skipped the next day if lynched, not NK'd. Glad I guessed right on SSBF though.

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Well, we'll see. Furcolow has a lot of potential, his playstyle just needs to be brushed up on... a lot.

But if he can get his ducks in a row... IF... then he will likely become one of the top scumhunters on the site.

I agree with this. Then again, you could say that about every player on this site in some way or another.

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I totally forgot about that. Pick a good one, Magna!