Mini 991 - POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA (GAME)

[ReaperCharlie]

Dispel Magic. Really, I'm sorry about that.

Then again (OMG WIFOM) if I was lying about the role in the first place why would I lie about misreading it?

/me hands Karma a tasty WIFOMsandwich™

mmmmmm....

[Karma]

I do appreciate the gain of apprentices. Actually, now that I have two apprentices, I can confirm my role during the night - the person I target will know all the spells that affected them.

Well hey, now onto the scums.

VOTE: Andrius

I still think it's a good idea.

[Budja]

Andrius...I personally think he should claim just what abilities he saw and not who they're from to get setup info but avoid giving scum a direction to go in, but I need more input on this one.

I agree. We gain knowledge, lose nothing regardless of Andrius's alignment.
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VOTE: Andrius, Karma can have his chance.

re. lurkers. Emp would be my choice, partly influenced by KMD's meta tell. Consider him #2.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

@Parama: I think it would be a good idea to focus on both Andrius/Karma and the lurkers. You bring up a good point about lurkers. Since only Andrius/Karma have been suspicious throughout most of the game, we should continue focusing on them, regardless of claim. PR claims do make me less suspicious of them, but it doesn't mean that they are pro-town yet.

As for lurkers, they need to be pressured to add some contents. I have a null read on all of them, so I'll have to check them out and decide on the scummiest lurker. A mixture of both will be the best for town.

I will put down my vote later. Karma has improved, so I won't be choosing him. Basically, my vote will go either to Andrius, MrSauve, Empking, or Dramonic.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

MrSuave:

He's only made one post that can even be possibly be called contents and even then, I really don't like the post. Post here:

hmmmm.... I see that people were looking for my opinion. well, I'll say that Reaper has said that he will re-read a few times, and has also voted himself twice. I don't know, but imo, he's either scum being so distracting that he will be ignored, or just a VI >_>. either way, I don't like it.

my gut (and if you've played with me before, you know I usually just go with my gut =d) tells me that dramonic is not to be trusted this game. but that's just my feeling.

I also don't like the whole, "I'd settle to lynch ______" thing that was going on a few pages back. D:

btw, and I am not a useless lurker. >_< think of me as a late game fire emblem hero. I suck at the start, and am better at the end. =D

but, as a recap of everything I just said:

-I think ReaperCharlie should be watched and deserves my FOS
-I think dramonic is scum with no real proof other than a bad feeling
-I'm pretty neutral on everyone else

Unvote; MOREPOWERFULERVOTE: dramonic

It seems like that ReaperCharlie from his perspective sounds like a better lynch candidate, however, he goes to vote dramonic just because of a bad feeling, which I call a cop-out. No attempt to find evidence on why Dramonic could be scum, he doesn't even try. The third paragraph doesn't look good either. I honestly don't see why he had a problem with "I'd settled for a lynch on ___", especially since there are times when the person lynched isn't your top lynch candidate and you need to consider other options. He also argued that he isn't a useless lurker, but so far, he has barely contributed anything. I also didn't like how he basically said "I suck early in the game, but get better later on.". I think he's trying to make an excuse for not contributing and I'm not going to let that happen.

The post contains very little scum hunting, and a weak defense. Combined that with his other small one-liners and I have a pretty strong suspicion on him.

Empking:

Not as bad as MrSuave, but I'll be keeping my eye out for him. He hasn't really done that much aside from asking questions. I'm getting a feeling he's doing this to coast through the game and do the minimal amount of contributing without us noticing. I'm getting a slightly scummy read from him and it will stay a scum read until he starts contributing better.

Dramonic:

Like others, he is guilty of active lurking, especially with his later posts. Sure he's made a few half-decent posts (His analysis was good), but most of his posts late Day 1 is basically discussing what school we should go into and all that stuff. However, he does have the potential to be a good player Day 2, so I'll leave him at null.

Andrius:

Even with his claim, I am still suspicious of Andrius. This basically explains my suspicion on Andrius:

Andrius: If there was one thing Karma did right, it was actually attempt to defend himself. Andrius has done very little to benefit the game. His defense on June, 21 at 2:16 AM CST is downright horrible. His active lurking is almost as bad as TheButtonmen. Very little good contents and many scum tells. When he does actually provide contents, they seemed forced by other people. Also take a look at the last post. Karma was right about Andrius being hypocritical, but he also failed to realize that Budja is V/LA until tomorrow.

I was disappointed that he has not really done much to sway my suspicion of him. If not for the claim, I would immediately be voting for him.

I'll be willing to lynch either MrSuave, Andrius, or Empking ToDay based on what we've gotten so far. MrSuave is my top suspect with Andrius as a not-so-distant second and Empking as my third choice

Vote: MrSuave

[Andrius]

Glad to see the thread's finally open.

First off, I'd like to thank my supporter. <3 Your continued support to the school of Divination will surely

end world hunger

lead to the lynching of scum. Now if we could just get one more supporter, than we could establish a neighborhood with the purpose of

awesome house parties

catching scum through the bonds of neighborhood-ness.

With that in mind, I'll claim my results from last night.

Andrius...I personally think he should claim just what abilities he saw and not who they're from to get setup info but avoid giving scum a direction to go in, but I need more input on this one.

I can dig this, for now.

My results were:

Daze
Sleep
Confusion
Dominate Person

To me it sounds like a roleblocker. More likely scum that town though. Especially since Karma's powers have some Roleblocking-ness.

I do appreciate the gain of apprentices. Actually, now that I have two apprentices, I can confirm my role during the night - the person I target will know all the spells that affected them.

I want 2 apprentices. I want to neighborize someone... and I can confirm myself as well, through the neighborization.

So now that the thread is open, I'll work to be more active, etc.

FoS: ReaperCharlie
Vote: Mr. Suave

Let's get some lurkers in here, please and thank you.

[Gammagooey]

Gawwwwwwwd Karma and Andrius you are both SILLY.

I do appreciate the gain of apprentices. Actually, now that I have two apprentices, I can confirm my role during the night - the person I target will know all the spells that affected them.

I want 2 apprentices. I want to neighborize someone... and I can confirm myself as well, through the neighborization.

Proving an ability=/=proving alignment. I mean for serious, this would be the EASIEST GAME if scum all had to completely make up power roles and the results from them.

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If one of Suave/Empking continues to be useless and doing nothing but activity modkill-dodging, they'z getting the lynch today. Although it's still unlikely they could be scum together, its millions times more likely than Andrius and Karma being scumbuddies and at least one of them is 100% absolute scumz IMO.

Also, people who are more/less suspicious of one uber-lurker or the other confuse and worry me because I really don't see enough content from either to actually tell them apart scum-wise.

[Andrius]

Gawwwwwwwd Karma and Andrius you are both SILLY.

I do appreciate the gain of apprentices. Actually, now that I have two apprentices, I can confirm my role during the night - the person I target will know all the spells that affected them.

I want 2 apprentices. I want to neighborize someone... and I can confirm myself as well, through the neighborization.

Proving an ability=/=proving alignment. I mean for serious, this would be the EASIEST GAME if scum all had to completely make up power roles and the results from them.

I was joking.

Deadline's in like, 5 days, right? Because days are only a week, right? *goes to see*

[Andrius]

EBWOP: Deadline is in a week.

And I still want to Neighborize someone.

[Karma]

I'm sorry, but the spells Andrius learned about sound hugely scummy. "Dominate Person"? Come on now. What would be the harm in outing the target? Causing another claim?

[ReaperCharlie]

FoS: ReaperCharlie
Vote: Mr. Suave

FoS: buddy, vote: townie. <--huuuuge scumtell.

Andrius and RC are scum, Mr. Suave is town.

Vote: Andrius

[Gammagooey]

Reeeeeeeaaaaaaperrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. *fist shaking*

I am intrigued by Karma's reaction and it leads to MORE SECRETS. Andrius/Person with those spells shouldn't claim unless they're getting run up Or one other situation that will not be talked about at this time.
If anyone else claims a power role though I think it may be massclaim time, cause we've got 2 dead PRs and would have 4 more of 6 outed : / (even though it's partly my fault but whatever)

[Gammagooey]

Damnit if I'm right about some of these secrets then either the setup isn't what I thought or one of my sexy town reads isn't so sexy after all. Or more likely one of my secrets is flawed but I'll deal with that if it happens.
/talkingtomyself

[Empking]

SSBM; I've been called a lurker for a long time now. Unless you think I'm completely devoid of brain cells I'm not trying to avoid notice. BTW,. I'm not lurking you guys are playing ridiculously fast. (Which if you look at day 1 is not a good thing.)

It looks like there's no tell associated with having a 0 apprentice action or not.

So I'll wait for a VC and then vote Andrius. I don't think RC is bluffing.

[Empking]

ASctually I'll just.

Vote: RC

[ReaperCharlie]

0_o

I'm not scum! I promise!

Vote Andrius instead!

[Parama]

Quick question: RC, can you confirm that the list of spells that Andrius posted is really your list of spells?

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah. I have another one too with a Guild Mark or something.

[SpyreX]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 6

Andrius

- 3 - Karma, Budja, ReaperCharlie - (L-3)

Empking

- 1 - Gammagooey - (L-5)

MrSuave

- 2 - Super Smash Bros. Fan, Andrius - (L-4)

ReaperCharlie

- 1 - Empking - (L-5)

Players not voting: Dramonic, MrSuave, Parama

[Andrius]

I'm sorry, but the spells Andrius learned about sound hugely scummy. "Dominate Person"? Come on now.

Exactly. Hence my FoS on RC, especially after his play D1.

FoS: buddy, vote: townie. <--huuuuge scumtell.

Andrius and RC are scum, Mr. Suave is town.

Vote: Andrius

Can this be OMGUS against me for endangering him?
Well, now that he's outed:

Unvote, Vote: ReaperCharlie

0_o

I'm not scum! I promise!

Vote Andrius instead!/

Because we're going to believe this just because you said it.

Quick question: RC, can you confirm that the list of spells that Andrius posted is really your list of spells?

And I'll confirm that I did indeed investigate RC.

[Karma]

unvote, vote: ReaperCharlie

[Parama]

Are we playing "outguess the mod" again? I'm not calling anyone as confirmed maf based on just their spell list.

[Gammagooey]

Empking-

SSBM; I've been called a lurker for a long time now. Unless you think I'm completely devoid of brain cells I'm not trying to avoid notice. BTW,. I'm not lurking you guys are playing ridiculously fast. (Which if you look at day 1 is not a good thing.)

It looks like there's no tell associated with having a 0 apprentice action or not.

So I'll wait for a VC and then vote Andrius. I don't think RC is bluffing.

The game has WEEK-LONG DEADLINES. If everyone was playing "normally" like you we would have had a 3-5 page day 1 and either a lynch barely out of the RVS or no lynch at all. Start playing the godamn game.

Meh, since you guys are probably going to run RC to a fullclaim without me who's up for a massclaim afterwards? I don't think RC is scum.

[Karma]

Parama - how do those spells sound pro-town? I think we kind of have to play outguess the mod here. If there's a spell called "Dominate Person" that doesn't sound particularly nice.

I'm fine with a massclaim, by the way.

[Parama]

I still think it's mod-WIFOM and I still like my group of You+Andrius+Lurkers for today.
By the way, would Andrius and Karma care to post the names of all their spells + guild mark?