Mini 991 - POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA (GAME)

[ReaperCharlie]

Oh noes, TBm is in this game!

Vote: TheButtonmen

[ReaperCharlie]

VOTE: ReaperCharlie

Lol! Inter-game omgus tunnel ftw

[ReaperCharlie]

Vote; TBM

ty, let's get it done, son.

[ReaperCharlie]

Actually I like vote counts being mod posts, makes ISOing them much easier.

Yeah please don't just edit stuff into the first post each page. Just make your posts whenever, we can ISO them if we need to see them.

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah. He tried to get me lynched in a Marathon Day game.

:grrrrr:

[ReaperCharlie]

Will catch up and post later today. Have been gone this weekend, sry

[ReaperCharlie]

As per my wiki:

I knew RC would come around at the smell of a good wagon. - Andrius

Time for that quote to come true, baby!

Vote: Andrius

[ReaperCharlie]

Probably because Kmd gave a sh*t-ton of IoA before voting, while Karma and I didn't bother.

Sound warm?

[ReaperCharlie]

Do you think Andrius is scummy?

[ReaperCharlie]

I think it's in the town's best interests to just ignore the drivel that comes out of Parama's mouth.

I hate it when people say sh*t like this.

Unvote; Vote: Karma

[ReaperCharlie]

Reasoning: NO REASONING! HA!

(secret reason)

[ReaperCharlie]

Dayvig: Karma

[ReaperCharlie]

[ReaperCharlie]

Psh, your pathetic

Content-O-Meter™

is worthless compared to my complete line of

WIFOMproducts®

! ...

[ReaperCharlie]

You just don't want me to give more reasons why you're scum. I'm not dumb, I've caught scum!
(hey that rhymes cool)

Ok definitely

Unvote; Vote: Parama

[ReaperCharlie]

You're going to have to explain that one thank you very much

A terrible rhyme is more than worth a vote. If you disagree GTFO my POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA.

[ReaperCharlie]

You have much to learn, young Padawan.

[ReaperCharlie]

Assert mind-control over: Karma
Command to self-vote: Karma

[ReaperCharlie]

HUKT ON M4GIC WURKT 4 ME

[ReaperCharlie]

OMFG look at ReaperCharlie! He's posted nothing but one-liners the entire time! ISO him you'll see what I mean!

Vote: ReaperCharlie

[ReaperCharlie]

Out of the two, I'd lynch Karma over Andrius.

[ReaperCharlie]

Because he's him and you're you. Also, his avatar is cooler.

[ReaperCharlie]

Also, if you're both town, I'd rather lynch you because he'll be more useful later on.

[ReaperCharlie]

WIFOM! WIFOM, I SAY!

[ReaperCharlie]

...I think you're misunderstanding the term.

OPPORTUNITY MISSED! You shoulda said: "You keep using that word... I do not think it means what you think it means."

[ReaperCharlie]

Also, if you're both town, I'd rather lynch you because he'll be more useful later on.

How so?

Cause you're actually useful, and Karma's supposed LOGIC is a piece of crap.

[ReaperCharlie]

Cue:

Somebody else, saying "oh, but Reaper you haven't actually done anything but fluff the entire time!!!"

[ReaperCharlie]

I am a POWERFUL WIZARD. I don't have to try to act pro-town. I will just blast anyone who defies me with POWERFUL MAGIC.

[ReaperCharlie]

(In other words.... yea, k, I'll read up and comment later.)

[ReaperCharlie]

Analyze my posts? What is there to analyze? LOL

[ReaperCharlie]

If there was an eclipse or somethin' going on, maybe it could be a crazy scum gambit, yea. Otherwise, yea um... nope.

[ReaperCharlie]

Here's what I think of Andrius: This is the only content he's posted thus far:

"Temp. Town read on SSBF. Playing like he did in the other game I know him from. RC is acting like RC does."

The rest of it is just defense, conjecture, rhetoric, and questions for other players.

If I had a Content-O-Meter like Kmd4390, I might be able to give you a more precise answer, but I don't feel that he is acting particularly pro-town, no.

[ReaperCharlie]

It could be a crazy scum gambit. Too early to tell if it is.

Lol, you're a dork. I don't gambit. Ever. The reward is never worth the risk.

So to answer your question: Yes, I'm a POWERFUL WIZARD, but no, I am not a MAFIA.

[ReaperCharlie]

It's not. I just know that he CAN be useful, because I've seen him do it, whereas all I've ever seen you do is argue without actually consciously scumhunting.

[ReaperCharlie]

*golf clap*

[ReaperCharlie]

WTF! ReaperCharlie!?!? How dare you vote for me! OMFG! YOU SUCK!

Unvote; Vote: ReaperCharlie

[ReaperCharlie]

Alliances are not as great of an idea in mini-games, I've found out. There aren't as large of a pool of players, and there usually aren't competing scum factions. Scum presence in the alliance would be devastating to the town, whereas in a large game, it actually works out to a pro-town benefit quite well.

Now that my other huge game's over (longest one I've ever played), I'll be a lot more active and useful in this one.

Be afraid, scum.

[ReaperCharlie]

Not a jester. Just didn't have time for this game cause I was stuck in Wisborg Asylum and that game was eating up all my time

Now I'm here. Chill.

[ReaperCharlie]

k gotta re-read and I'll have a vote down by tonight.

[ReaperCharlie]

So besides Andrius, who is your biggest scumread, Karma?

[ReaperCharlie]

ReaperCharlie... Erm... What the hell is wrong with you?

I am a genius, there is nothing wrong with me.

[ReaperCharlie]

SSBF, who's played way too many games to have people pull the newbcard on him.

Agreed, but is it him pulling the newbcard on himself? Or others pulling it for him? If it's others, then look out for scumbuddies doing it. If it's himself, then yeah, he's likely scum.

[ReaperCharlie]

Well, then there's guys like me who aren't even bothering to volunteer IIoA, what do you think of me?

P.S. who are you an alt of? pm me

oh wait, better yet you can tell me in our SCUM QUICKTOPIC!!! >:D bahahaha

[ReaperCharlie]

I think you're either crazy scum or crazy town. Either way, it's a crazy null read ATM.

And I can't tell you my alt-hood! Just know that I am one.

well.... there goes my noob read on you.

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Curses.

[ReaperCharlie]

Button is not quite as bad, but I'm used to his posting style anyways, so it's all good.

Heh, normally I'd be all over a wagon like Karma's but A) This game needs a second wagon badly and B) The Karma wagon doesn't feel right, too many of the active players are on it.

This player speaks the truth ^^

[ReaperCharlie]

Already made up my mind. I think Karma is scum and it's pretty obvious that Karma isn't scum with Andrius and vice-versa.
To be fair Karma's gotten better in terms of content but my original point still stands and he's probably improving so I'll jump off him. But NOPE not gonna happen.

But I should also stop being lazy and reread.
Preview Edit: 4 posts while I was typing up this one. WTF.

Ainsworth Keyboard Trainer

FTW! - http://www.qwerty.com

[ReaperCharlie]

Why am I too lazy to read 10 pages? WHYYYY

[ReaperCharlie]

The thing is, I won't. Can you please

trust me on this

?

AtE ALERT!!!! WOOOPPP WOOOPPP

[ReaperCharlie]

Hell, I'll admit it was AtE. My logical arguments seem to be failing even though I can't see any flaws in 'em.

Heck, I use AtE when it works. Heck, I even said so in your topic. Haha.

Heck, here's the link. http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =5&t=14400

Read up people, let's see what Karma's planning!

[ReaperCharlie]

Only I may use AtE!

/me backhands MrSuave

[ReaperCharlie]

Ooh, ooh, pick my school plz! I am a POWERFUL WIZARD and I will use your magic for GOOD.

[ReaperCharlie]

ooh, ninja'd

[ReaperCharlie]

[serious]

Ugh.

I forgot the fast deadline in this game, and spent my whole evening posting in another game.
Sorry. I'll post a catch-up post in this game tomorrow evening, and attach my vote with it.

Love and kisses,
-RC

[/serious]

[ReaperCharlie]

HAHA!...

Unvote

Be back tomorrow.

[ReaperCharlie]

Bah... forget it. I was gonna re-read and make a text-wall but that was too epic.

Captain's Log, stardate 2010-06-23 1543hrs: I am currently about to sheep a vote, and hope this man is right.

Vote: TheButtonMen

[ReaperCharlie]

Um... I don't think so. I think I want to choose the opposite of what you suggest, even if only because *you* suggested it.

That way, we can be sure you aren't trying to manipulate some game mechanic that *we* don't know about.

I suggest we either choose the LAST one out of the schools that haven't been claimed, or choose one from the middle (at random).

[ReaperCharlie]

But I am conjuration *hehehe*

[ReaperCharlie]

jk, jk

[ReaperCharlie]

<3 you're just sore because of how bad I owned you on Marathon day still... aren't ya?

*poke, poke*

[ReaperCharlie]

Unvote; Vote: TheButtonmen

L-1!!! OMFG!!! GTFO the other wagons and come make yourself useful! Hammer please!

[ReaperCharlie]

Uh... thanks a heap for ruining the element of surprise, Captain Obvious!

Did I not just Unvote, putting him back at L-2, then re-vote, putting him back at L-1 again?

/me bashes self in head, trying to forget how dense some people are.



Andrius just now:

[ReaperCharlie]

No worries. We'll lynch you tomorrow.

[ReaperCharlie]

Budja is covered in beautiful lights.

awww... ur so beautiful Budja

[ReaperCharlie]

k yea I'm still slacking off. I gotta re-read still.... ugh *puts it off*

[/appeal to slacker mentality]

[ReaperCharlie]

Harry Potter used Expelliarmus a lot when blocking, but he's a n00b and always uses it for everything. Bloody newb.

I think Protego is a good blocking spell, but it tends to create deflection as well. Shield charms work fine for blocking.

Further reading: http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Forum ... Deflection

[ReaperCharlie]

Wait... this isn't Harry Potter mafia...

OH SHI-

[ReaperCharlie]

Dispel Magic. Really, I'm sorry about that.

Then again (OMG WIFOM) if I was lying about the role in the first place why would I lie about misreading it?

/me hands Karma a tasty WIFOMsandwich™

mmmmmm....

[ReaperCharlie]

FoS: ReaperCharlie
Vote: Mr. Suave

FoS: buddy, vote: townie. <--huuuuge scumtell.

Andrius and RC are scum, Mr. Suave is town.

Vote: Andrius

[ReaperCharlie]

0_o

I'm not scum! I promise!

Vote Andrius instead!

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah. I have another one too with a Guild Mark or something.

[ReaperCharlie]

I can't think of how a massclaim would be either beneficial or detrimental, soooo... why the @#$^ not?

[ReaperCharlie]

I just started a mass claim in another game, I call waiting until at least 2nd or 3rd this time

Plus, I know I'm town so I don't want to help out the scum.

[ReaperCharlie]

btw...

RC. You start.

NO U

[ReaperCharlie]

Enchantment.

Now you.

[ReaperCharlie]

I did already. LRN2READ plz

[ReaperCharlie]

10.) Do not quote any communication from the mod (that includes PMs) in the game thread.

I'm attempting to plagiaphrase (without actually quoting) my role pm... sooo... plz don't modkill me spyrex.

(apprentices- POWER: result)
0- DAZE: Random role-block
1- SLEEP: Targeted role-block
2- CONFUSION: Targeted 2-night action random-redirection
3- DOMINATE: I control their vote for the next day.
GM- MASS HOLD: Multi-target role-block.

After using my GM I become an apprentice.

[ReaperCharlie]

I win when all threats to the Guild have been eliminated.

And my role name is in green sooooo I assume I'm town based off this.

Kill Andrius.

Don't be blinded by the TRUTH!!!!

[ReaperCharlie]

um. Karma. we are (mostly) all POWERFUL WIZARDS.

Do you really expect him to come up with 60 different spells that do 60 different things?

I'm sure action resolution is a clusterf*ck at night already.

[ReaperCharlie]

LOLWUT

Magic Missile — A bolt of pure energy from the caster's fingertips, which in most editions of the game never misses its target unless prevented by magical means. The number of bolts one can cast increases with practice. (listed under Arcane spells)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_of_D ... ane_spells

[ReaperCharlie]

RC-Soooooo why did that take so long.

I'm @ work, sry

[ReaperCharlie]

@ Karma:

[ReaperCharlie]

How am I retarded?

Haha, I just finally showed my first interest into putting effort into the game!

*sobs uncontrollably*

[ReaperCharlie]

Gogo gadget Karma. I choose you.

I assume that means Gamma is next after that, so... no harm done, son.

[ReaperCharlie]

As should be exceedingly evident at this juncture: I'm very lazy.

Either link me to the post where you full-claimed, or post it again.

Ugh, you people.

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah. UNVOTE: Gamma

VOTE: ReaperCharlie

He's still scum.

What the h311? No I'm not!

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah, pretty sure you are. Your spells are

very

indicative of a scum roleblocker.

If I was scum, would I have shown you those abilities? wifom away with that one.

The point is: I've only got what I've got, and I'm telling you what I've got.

It should be pretty obvious that I've got no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to dungeons and dragons (or wherever he's pulling these spells from). All I know is, there was green writing in my role PM where it says I'm a wizard of Enchantment, and I win when all threats to the Guild are eliminated.

I'm no genius, but I am pretty sure that means I'm town.

[ReaperCharlie]

Remind me to nominate Andrius for the title Magic Missile Smith after the game. LOL

btw, VOTE: Andrius if I'm not already.

[ReaperCharlie]

I would say 'Then LYNCH me and prove yourself wrong'

but that's playing against my win condition no matter which way you look at it.

[ReaperCharlie]

<<Command: insert intimidation tactic>>
"If you guys lynch me, you'll be sorry!"

<<Command: insert appeal to emotion>>
"Come on guys, don't lynch me! Please! Think of the children!"

<<Command: insert WIFOMspiral™>>
"Lynching me may or may not be progressive toward your own wincon, but if the flavor lies within the boundaries of sanity, the conceivable ratio of scum to town is either less or more than the inverse variable derived from calculating the actual ratio of town to scum, which means that if I am town and you lynch me, the possibility of a scum win vastly increases, whereas if I am scum and you lynch me, you pretty much win the internets; however, with all possible dignity and humility I must request that you look beyond the scope of what your wandering eyes normally drink in as fact, and open your minds to the possibility that I may in fact not be the best lynch of the day, which conclusively proves that either I am scum or town, but whether you lynch me or not, you are in fact not playing to your own win condition at all, therefore you must be playing to the enemy's wincon and you may in fact be scum yourself."

[ReaperCharlie]

P.S. If (when, actually) I flip town, I want you all to look in the mirror and challenge EVERYTHING YOU KNOW OR HAVE EVER KNOWN.

[ReaperCharlie]

What is the case against me again? Sorry I must have been simulposting and I'm far too lazy to look for it.

Who's leading my wagon anyway? Remind me to target them with my vengeful powers and destroy their children.

[ReaperCharlie]

Here is my apparent rebuttal to your case.

A is correct.
B is correct.

Though I must present option C.

C. My name is GREEN in my Role PM. Therefore I am good or town or pro-Guild or whatever is not-scum in this game.

[ReaperCharlie]

Oh, sry. If that's inadequate I'll add more.

D. I'm an easy lynch, no? Obviously scum will wanna lynch me and try their best to push a crap case.
E. If my powers would be useful to scum, they'd also be useful AGAINST scum, no?
F. Even a useless townie is better than a scumhunting scum.
G. Pancakes are delicious.

[ReaperCharlie]

My solution: Lynch Karma instead, and all apprentices choose to follow Enchantment tonight, and we'll all be happy.

[ReaperCharlie]

There's no way we're lynching me before EVERYONE claims.

There's just no way. Sry. Even if I get mislynched I still want the W in my column.

I actually think Parama is scum, for the following reasons:

a. didn't claim until 5 seconds ago, while still pushing for a lynch
b. saying 'reaper's making himself look worse'. scum trying to hurry up a mislynch.
c. trying to direct the mod to additional votes on a mislynch so that it'll go through quicker.

Unvote; Vote: Parama

[ReaperCharlie]

Honestly, though, my vote on Reaper is more about his play than his spells, although the spells add a supplementary layer to the case.

Are you contrasting this to other, current games where I'm actually putting forth effort? lol

>.<

[ReaperCharlie]

P.S. Unvote me. Immediately!

You won't be sorry. Also, you'll pat yourself on the back later.

[ReaperCharlie]

Yes. Gears of War mafia you're actually trying in.

[removed - mith]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

[ReaperCharlie]

wtf?

[ReaperCharlie]

anyways, you get the picture.

[ReaperCharlie]

MrSuave needs a prod or something, maybe he forgot to bookmark this topic. He's modding another game I'm in and he just posted in that one a little while ago

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm an easy lynch because of how little I've contributed and how anti-town I've been playing. Not because of my overall lack of skill or experience.

You should support me because I am a POWERFUL WIZARD of Enchantment, and I am PRO-TOWN. That is reason enough.

[ReaperCharlie]

I can go with that. (no particular reason, though)

Unvote; Vote: Empking

*waits for someone to be like "reaper is just voting anyone who's not himself to draw votes onto any wagon but his own! omfg! scum!*

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm an easy lynch because of how little I've contributed and how anti-town I've been playing. Not because of my overall lack of skill or experience.

If you are an easy lynch, considering your experience level, there's no excuse for you to go down this low. You have done a lot better then this in past games, you should know better.

You're gonna have to explain this to me. I am naught but a humble pirate.

Errr... wizard.

[ReaperCharlie]

GTFO! I'm town, I tell you!

[ReaperCharlie]

Ok well... my blood will be on your hands.

I've already tried to beat it into your thick skulls that I'm innocent.

If you don't believe me its your own fault, not mine.

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm pretty busy but if you guys can give me a day or two to read the thread and actually come up with something, I'm sure I can come up with something satisfactory.

That's a reasonable request, no? When's the deadline? Not that soon, right?

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm not scum, so unvote me immediately, you goons.

I promise to get a good post or two in by the end of the week.

[ReaperCharlie]

And as I am at L-1 I expect the very next post to be Unvote, so some moron doesn't 'accidentally' hammer me and go 'oh whoops! was that t3h hammer? oh noes lul'

Unvote

(so nobody has any omgus reasons to keep their vote on me)

[ReaperCharlie]

Neighbor me instead, Andrius. You won't regret it.

P.S. July 5th is the deadline which gives me an entire 3-day weekend to re-read and scumhunt.

Anyone who hammers me is obviously afraid of me hunting for them, and are therefore obvscum.

I urge anyone who's town and wants to WIN, to unvote me.

That is all.

My post will be incoming, before Monday. Likely before Sunday.

[ReaperCharlie]

Also, my reasoning is I was writing a sh*tload of flavor for my own mini-theme game that I'm modding, and I have been slacking off in all my games. Now it's started, all the role PMs are out, and I finally have time to PLAY games now. [/lame excuse]

Pro-tip:

This game does NOT follow my meta for town OR scum, usually I try a lot harder as both. Those who know me know that. Any ongoing games do not count, cause as I said, I was slacking off in all of them.

[ReaperCharlie]

I'll use my guild mark and then apprentice you. Easy.

And I'm not scum.... sooo.... yea

[ReaperCharlie]

You're willing to use your G.M. just to be neighbors with me?
That seems a bit unlikely.

Yea, I'd do it. Then I'd also be a much less likely target for an NK.

[ReaperCharlie]

Ya know,

CONTENT-O-METER

TM probably isn't a good idea to be doing for practically everyone in the game. I feel like it will get mostly ignored if it becomes a theme. Let me just give a rundown of quick mostly one-liner thoughts on everyone.

Empking- Meta says scum so far, but it's early, so hard to tell.
Parama- Actually looks town for once.
TheButtonmen-I wanted to say town until I looked at him in ISO just now. I think the early wagon got to me. Looks scummy in ISO.
Karma-Giving off massive towntells with almost every post.
Budja-I'm seeing town. Mostly because of the "mild gut town" reads.
Super Smash Bros. Fan-Posts seem carefully worded which is a playstyle that tends to throw me off. Seems to be my polar opposite as far as playstyles. Gonna be a tough cookie to read here.
Dramonic- Wow his ISO looks so bad. Prime candidate for a vig shot.
ReaperCharlie-Town. Meta.
Andrius-I think I've said enough here. DIESCUMDIE
MrSuave-See Dramonic.
Gammagooey-Obvtown
Kmd4390-Obvtown.

So this game can be separated into three groups. AWESOMETOWN, DIESCUM, USELESSLURKERDIEDIEDIE.

AWESOMETOWN:
Parama
Karma
Budja (Subject to change)
Reap
Gamma
Kmd

DIESCUM:
Emp
Smash Bros (Subject to change)
Andrius

USELESSLURKERDIEDIEDIE:
Dramonic
Suave
Button (Subject to change)

Just figured I'd bring this post up again, for good measure, before I get on with the rest of my re-read.

Remember, Kmd flipped town so.... these are true reads and this is goodposting.

[ReaperCharlie]

And while I'm at it, (re-reading, that is, this is AWESOMEposting). How was TBM lynched and not Karma, after this post?

PS goes first-Sorry about this being wallish, but it's important and quite probably the only wall I'm going to make for a while, so please bear with it.

Yesssssssssssssssss I finally got what I was waiting for and can explain why Karma is pretty much guaranteed scum at this point. (I'm fully expecting RC's daykill to be fake I just wanted to see if Karma would actually react if several people indicated that they thought he was dying)

Let's go over Karma's play shall we?

His first actually suspicious post-

So this is L-2. Buttonmen, anything to say?

Doesn't ask for a claim or any specific info, and when pressured gives a few questions to TBM after the fact, and proceeds to crazy overreact to Parama's vote on him. I don't see his "I'm lazy" as a towntell, especially as he was on just minutes before the question was asked and may have felt pressured to answer quickly because of it, with having "I'm lazy" being the best answer he could think of in a short amount of time.

The part I was waiting for-

Do you still care about what Button thinks of his earlier wagon?

Yes. Very much so, actually.

And yet immediately after TBM posts without

ever mentioning

his wagon, in his next post he not only completely ignores that TBM hasn't answered his earlier questions but doesn't even have him on his scumlist. This is because he doesn't actually care about the answers to his earlier questions, and made them up pretty much just to avoid suspicion and try to look like he's scumhunting.

BUT THAT'S NOT ALL.

No, my vote is not OMGUS. You presented a case based on a misunderstanding - that was that. I cleared it up. The issue should have been taken care of right then and you should have moved on. Calling me hypocritical for asking for analysis from TBM on PAGE FUCKING 2 is fucking scummy. Why don't you attack Andrius - all he's done is ask questions. Why don't you attack 3/4 of the players here for "not providing any analysis"?

In this quote, you see Karma only actually bringing up other suspects because he's being attacked. He had never brought up Andrius before, he hasn't said that Andrius was scummy before, he's just trying to make Parama's attack seem weaker and get rid of attention by pointing out "heeeeeey look there are other scummy guys why aren't you attacking theeeeem"

And Finally

However, I slept on it, and I realized my frustration with Parama makes this really feel like town on town. Parama's attacks are wrong and horribly misguided but he's trying, which I can't say for most of the town.
UNVOTE: Parama

Not only does Karma back off of his suspicion when it's repeated that his Parama suspicion is dumb, but in the post he doesn't say that he just thinks Parama is town now, He states

That his own interaction with another player is town on town

. There is no reason to do this except to put in a subtle "oh hey guys I'm town" into his read of Parama, which should not be a concern of an actual townie.


Once again, sorry about the wall, but Karma is scum. Thank you and good night.

Thank you and good night, indeed.

[ReaperCharlie]

Don't argue with me, Parama. It'll get you lynched, or worse.

So, Andrius, no comment on my last post?

Your scumhunting efforts are crap. Let's look at your suspects, shall we?

RC: Someone who's acting scummy, obviously on purpose. You say he's acting out of character, when earlier, you said this:

RC is acting like RC does.

Yeah. And your case on RC (your number one suspect) is still based entirely on meta, which is not something to build an entire case on. It can be supplementary, but that's about it.

Budja: Lurker. Not necessarily a scumtell, but lurkers make easy targets for scum to pick on when they don't want to actually try and scumhunt.

TBM: Andrius says he's active lurking, even though Buttons has 13 posts and Andrius has 14, with about 1/3 of them being fluff. So for him to call out Buttons for active lurking is again, quite hypocritical.

Andrius- Noooot really who I was expecting. So why aren't you voting...any of them?

And then there's this, which is a great point.

Guys, deadline's in two days and we need to lynch Andrius ASAP. If you don't understand my case or don't agree with it, please tell me because just ignoring it is the wrong thing to do at this point.

This is also a pretty awesome post. I'm starting to think better of Karma by this point, and all roads lead to Andrius being scum.

Not just this. Loads of other stuff. Like, I'm not even going to begin to explain it, cause it'd take too long. But, quite a bit.

Unvote; Vote: Andrius

<-actual first serious vote

I expect anyone who wants a serious lynch this weekend to re-read the thread, watch for Andrius' interactions with other players, and get on this wagon pronto.

Anyone who does not, I will consider scum trying to save their buddy (that, or a huge pussy).

[ReaperCharlie]

I'M ALIVE, OH MY FREAKIN GOD.

Now then. I don't like this situation. Suave, Budja and Emp are pretty content-dead (so am I, but you know...) Pretty null though, I've seen both Suave and Budja do it. Suave's right about the whole late FE hero thingy
Question: Does Emp always post this low content?

Button is not quite as bad, but I'm used to his posting style anyways, so it's all good.

Andrius and Karma is a freakin hell to make out. Both are being real scummy, but there's just no way in HELL they're scum together @_@. It's making me cringe

Karma: His bickering with Parama is terribad. Face it Karma, your early posts surrounding TBM were scummy, your dropping off him now that he's not being wagonned anymore is scummy, your going "omg parama is so dumb and mean and omghs" is scummy.
Andrius: I read your posts. Once I was done, I still didnt know what you were thinking. Care to actually develop an opinion or something instead of playing echo?

SSBF's play isn't exactly what I'd call protown, but arguably he's a newb and my gut is writing a giant "TOWN!" on him

ReaperCharlie... Erm... What the hell is wrong with you?

Parama, Gammagooey, Kmd4390's post I like. Three of them are vastly superior in protowness than the rest of the players in this game.

Oh, why hello there Auntie IIoA, how's it going?

Here is another scum. Also, a huge amount of gut based on playing multiple times with dramonic.

You're welcome, guys.

[ReaperCharlie]

Here are my reads and thoughts on players after a re-read (up to page 17):

(feels town)

-gamma (overall helpful tone, i like how he's been handling pressure on him, esp from tbm and such. also, i love 363)
-mrsuave (this cat is town. the 'why' is secret for now, i'll divulge my reasoning later if it becomes useful)
-budja (feels townie when he posts. 362 in particular. his v/la was lame, but.. w/e, what can you do)
-parama (polarized w/karma early on... and i don't like 276. feels like he's trying too hard to be townie. earlier on i had a town read but i moved him here because he got worse and worse.. and then.... 384. wow. k he's town now)

(conflicting)

-ssbf (seems kinda VI, but kinda town-ish)
-karma (seemed very scummy at first, and i didn't much like the way he handled his L-2 wagon on D1, but ... it wasn't terrrrrrible. kinda inclined to think he's town but something keeps me from putting him in that category)

(scummy)

-andrius (trying to look innocent, not being too helpful - mostly early on. also, he ays 'RC is acting like RC does' but then later jumps on my back for lack of content... this is grade A backtracking, folks, no matter HOW worthless I was being. alllllso, he tries to handle pressure on him by ignoring it. huge scumtell in my book. also, helloooo fishing in 374)
-dram (gut, and other secret reasons which i will reveal later if they are appropriate. REMEMBER I SAID THIS. also, 370 is trying sooooo hard to look town, but in reality gives off huuuuge scumvibes to my noggin. 383 is really bad too, for the same reasons.)

(no idea..?)

-empking (not talking enough)

(town - dead)

-thebuttonmen (what the #@%$ was up with his tunneling on gamma? i didn't get that at all. didn't seem very intuitive)
-kmd4390 (mr. shining town himself. too bad the scum chose to kill him. he was pretty awesome, and smart, and sexy)

notes:

kmd (confirmed town) suspected ssbf, andrius. probably right about andrius.
kmd (confirmed town) has town read on karma. i tend to think he was actually right, but you never know.
tbm (confirmed town) suspected gamma. a lot. but i think he was tunneling, and wrong. he's also wrong about andrius.
karma is either self-righteous town, or bold scum. either way, he's making a convincing play for being townie.


IMPORTANT: if andrius is scum, karma and ssbf are town. no buts. and (surprise, surprise), those two are the ones in my list, so we're lynching andrius first, and if he flips scum, they're basically confirmed town in my eyes, and then we look at dram.

[ReaperCharlie]

P.S. In case you guys didn't get the idea:

[ReaperCharlie]

Not sure why you'd feel the need to present such an elaborate case against me when you were so willing to let the townies do the work for you before, Andy.

But it's nice to know that you put so much stock in my case against you that you feel that it deserves such a strong reply, even though as you said, I am 'clearly the lynch for today'.

So... I'll let others think of your reply what they will, but I think it's pretty obvious from my ISO that I hadn't cared about this game until now, and your entire 'case' (if you can call it that) against me is pretty worthless, because you're basing it on a ReaperCharlie that wasn't playing, not on the one that now is.

So... yea eat some rope please.

More Andrius votes, now.

[ReaperCharlie]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 6

Empking

- 2 - Budja, ReaperCharlie - (L-4)

MrSuave

- 1 - Super Smash Bros. Fan - (L-5)

ReaperCharlie

- 5 - Empking, Karma, Dramonic, Andrius, Gammagooey - (L-1)

Players not voting: MrSuave, Parama

By the way:

Ten bucks says all three (assuming three) scum are/were on my lynch wagon. I was at L-1 for quite some time.

Days

, in fact. Easily enough time for a scum to walk by and *accidentally* quickhammer me ('oh noes!1 ..I didn't realize he was at L-1 already? *fake sobbing*), which shows that clearly either one of our hardcore lurkers is scum, orrrr they're already all on there. I don't see MrSuave as scum, so...

Know what this means? This means that your scum team for POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA is likely

Andrius, Dramonic, and Empking

. There you have it, the patented scumhunting-without-actual-scumhunting technique.

I still get the willies about Karma but I am 90% confident that he's town if Andy flips scum, so. yep.

[ReaperCharlie]

@Gammagooey: About the Guild Mark, I'll think about it. He is currently one of my strongest town read in this game and I definently don't want him to die. I will do it if I receive no apprentices ToNight. However, like others, it is very well possible that he is a scum, so I can't rule out that possibility. That really depends on what happens during Day 2 and Twilight 2.

If Parama dies tonight and suddenly tommorrow you're "Oh noes there's nobody townie-enough around here to give this to", You gettan lynched. Just FYI.

As a side note, PERSONALLY I think all the L-1 why didn't he die talk is kinda silly considering I stated quite clearly that I'd murder anyone who hammered him before Suave and Empking gave opinions. Which they still haven't.

Also, Parama votes someone not on my awesome list . I need to reread Andrius/RC a little in case they're the two leading wagons at deadline and I have to choose, but personally I think Empking is a better bet for scum than either of them sooooooooooooo.

Vote:Empking

This is unsatisfactory. While I appreciate your vote for Empking, who is scum, I'd much rather see a lynch on Andrius. Obviously because I want him lynched before the deadline.

Why all the RC unvotes. As RC has himself mentioned he could've been lynched by scum at any time. Either the wagon on the scummy, scummy RC is mafia-led (very, very unlikely) or RC is scum which is why he hasn't been lynched.

Why do you need to call me 'scummy, scummy'? If the wagon WASN'T mafia-led I would have been lynched already. If Andrius flips scum, I expect you're the next lynch, then dramonic after you, or vice versa.

Thanks for proving my point though. Like you say, either I'm scum, or my wagon was full of scum. I of course know that I am not scum, therefore you (scum) have admitted my wagon was mafia-led. You just outed yourself and all your scumbuddies (not that I didn't already know who they were anyway).

More Andrius votes please. Deadline is day after tomorrow.

[ReaperCharlie]

Vote: Andrius

What it looks like: Scum losing their mislynch try to put together a worthless ISO case to keep votes on the mislynch. I appreciate the effort Andrius but it actually makes you look worse.

This good enough for you Gamma? <3



And look how upset Andrius is that I wasn't lynched... lmao

That's scum throwing a hissy fit if I ever saw one.

[ReaperCharlie]

Karma, this is how it currently stands, if I'm correct:

Unofficial Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 6

Empking

- 1 - Gammagooey - (L-5)

MrSuave

- 1 - Super Smash Bros. Fan - (L-5)

ReaperCharlie

- 3 - Empking, Dramonic, Andrius, - (L-3)

Andrius

- 3 - ReaperCharlie, Budja, Parama - (L-3)

Players not voting: MrSuave, Karma

Just need 3 more votes on Andy.

Lets go.

[ReaperCharlie]

b]Fos: Gamma
FoS: Budja[/b]

i.e. Guys who are either on your wagon or your buddy's wagon.

Just so we know.

Carry on.

[ReaperCharlie]

Glad to see that all three of my suspects are potentially going to be lynched ToDay. I prefer MrSuave to die, but Empking or Andrius are choices I'll be comfortable with as well. I will switch my vote to Andrius if it means securing a lynch on him.

It will. Switch votes please.

[ReaperCharlie]

Waitwaitwait. You're going to vig gamma tonight?

Or... gamma has a vig power and you're going to power him?

WE NEED 2 MORE VOTES ON ANDRIUS. WE NEED TO LYNCH ANDRIUS.

I want dramonic and/or Empking vigkilled tonight if possible.

Thank you. I will be V/LA until after the deadline so you guys need to get this done.

[ReaperCharlie]

I got a chance to get on mafiascum, so:
I'm still deciding whether to use my guild mark (mass-block) tonight or not. Any thoughts? It'd block any kills, and pretty much all other actions. It'd be worth using, and I'd become an apprentice again. Not sure whether I'd be able to apprentice someone tonight or not...

@mod: would i?

but if I could that'd be sweet and I'd apprentice gamma.

Unless everyone wants to start apprenticing Enchantment tonight or something, which is what I am, then I would have these abilities:
No Apprentices - Daze: A target will be selected randomly. They will be able to perform no actions.
One Apprentice - Sleep: Select a target. They will be able to perform no actions.
Two Apprentices - Confusion: Select a target. All actions undertaken by the target for both this night AND the next night will be randomized.
Three Apprentices - Dominate Person: Select a target. You control that targets vote for the following day.
Guild Mark - Mass Hold Person: Select any number of targets. Those targets will be able to perform no actions. After casting this spell you will become an apprentice and lose access to your spell list.

I don't particularly think my skills are that useful (and they're not exactly powerful for vigging or whatnot)... so I would either prefer to use my 0 apprentice skill or do my guild mark and become an apprentice again.

Then again, I really want gamma to use his vig on empking, and then we can lynch dramonic tomorrow for the win, and if I use my guild mark, this won't work... so if you are an apprentice, power gamma tonight.

gamma, let me know if you'd rather me use my guild mark tonight and block all actions. since i thought i'd be v/la entirely and not able to get on mafiascum, i already pre-sent my night action of using my guild mark to spyrex, but i can reverse it if you want. i need to know before the deadline though, or it will go through.

@mod: if I block everyone tonight, can gamma still use his vig power TOMORROW night?

[ReaperCharlie]

Thought I already claimed my actions, lol. I just went and checked what I had

[ReaperCharlie]

*then posted it

[ReaperCharlie]

Of course it's an excellent idea, Budja.



Now when Andrius flips scum, I hope you can all trust me from then on.

If not, then lynch Dramonic and empking. Maybe you'll be able to, then.

[ReaperCharlie]

I guess the blocking worked .

VOTE: Empking

Also Karma, Reaper, Parama, Gamma are all town.

^I agree

Vote: MrSuave

I seriously think he's a better lynch though.

Also people saying SSBF should Heart of Stone me tonight - he already did .-.

*backhands Parama*

Your vote is in the wrong place!

Vote: Empking

[ReaperCharlie]

No deals. Just sheep me and ask questions later.

[ReaperCharlie]

SSBF already used his guild mark? Sexy.

Where do you see that? I didn't see that. Maybe I should re-read again now that Andrius flipped.

---

When I re-read, I was 99% certain that if Andrius flipped scum, that Karma and SSBF are town. Ergo, they are terrible lynches.

---

Also. I am pretty sure MrSuave is town based on his re-entry into the thread after having been gone. That post literally oozes town. If Empking AND dramonic flip town is the only way I'll believe he's scum.

---

Also also. I blocked everyone but myself, Parama, and Gammagooey last night with my guild mark, and I have been confirmed by SpyreX that I am now an apprentice. I have no idea why the Enchantment school is still there, that makes no sense to me. Actually, it makes me look bad, and I don't like it.


Just so as not to rule anything out, here's some setup/role/ability speculation.
maybe there's some uber-powerful scum ability that allows some scum member to:
- stay alive when we think he's dead,
- steal someone's school of magic if they use their guild mark,
- something else equally ludicrous.

@mod: why is my school of magic still in the apprentice-able list if I used my guild mark and am now an apprentice?

There are no mistakes with the school count.

[ReaperCharlie]

Oh dam# I'm an idiot. I should have just blocked dramonic and empking. LMAO, my bad guys.

Well, w/e, we didn't have any kills whether for good OR for bad, so I guess thats what matters.

Now lets get this Emplynch done and then pwn dramonic tomorrow ftw.

[ReaperCharlie]

Dear Super Smash Bros. Fan,

It's been a while since I've written. I really like you and all, but I'm getting a bit of doubt in my mind about you.

I must question your latest assertion on my intentions, not because they are wrong, but just because they are not nearly strong enough. Namely: what do you think of my completely flipping around my wagon and lynching scum? From that, you only get a 'slight town read?' I thought what we had was special. Remember? We both used our guild marks last night, even though mine was supposed to block yours. We're apprentices together! Together, we can

rule the wor...

er... help someone rule the world!

In conclusion, I'd also like to request that you change your vote from MrSuave to Empking, so that we can lynch scum and win the game. I like winning, and I'm sure you do too. Also, if you push against this lynch and it ends up going through anyways and Emp flips scum, I will begin to have even more serious doubts about

your

real intentions.

Thanks for listening, you've always been good at that, and it's one of the things I treasure most in a friend like you.

Sincerely,
Your Buddy4Lyfe,
ReaperCharlie the Great

[ReaperCharlie]

WTF. SpyreX never said we could kill 2 in one day. That's just wishful thinking

Everyone vote for Empking. We lynch him today and dramonic tomorrow. Game over.

...

Just do it, you know you want to.

[ReaperCharlie]

Well I'm fine with MrSuave dying as long as Empking dies too, so... whenever is better.

But wait, if you don't post for the equivalent of a BaM game day, that == modkill, right?

...

So why don't we lynch Empking; then MrSuave won't have posted for a whole game day.

What could go wrong? lol

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm an apprentice, and I'm pushing for Empking's lynch today and your lynch tomorrow.

I am going to apprentice Gamma tonight so he gets a vig power, and I want him to use it on you.

If we wake up in the morning with no scum left, YAY!

[ReaperCharlie]

Uh, we ARE helping each other... helping each other lynch scum, that is.

The game is up, dramonic, stop playing stupid and bus Empking already.

Here, let me demonstrate:

Unvote; Vote: Empking

Now you try.

[ReaperCharlie]

Abjuration - 0 apprentices
Enchantment - 0 apprentices
Evocation - 0 apprentices
Illusion - 0 apprentices
Necromancy - 0 apprentices

pretty sure both necro and enchantment used their guild mark <_<

pretty sure you should read the thread. it's all explained.

^scum.

[ReaperCharlie]

@mod: If we quicklynch Empking and the game transitions to twilight, will MrSuave be modkilled for not having posted today?

[ReaperCharlie]

RC: Why are you doing everything in your power to prevent Mr. Suave from dying while pretending to want him dead?

You must be joking.

Also: Why are you trying to throw suspicion on me and MrSuave?
OH YEAH BECAUSE IT'LL HELP YOU NOT GET LYNCHED UNTIL LATER.

Anyways... let's lynch this dude. The sooner the better.

[ReaperCharlie]

lmao @ dram.

lynch this fool next if I die tonight

[ReaperCharlie]

Fine, I can wait until tomorrow. Whatever.

Remember, dramonic dies next.

[ReaperCharlie]

Ooohhh.... NEW INFO!

Unvote; Vote: Gammagooey!

[ReaperCharlie]

Ooohhh.... NEW INFO!

Unvote; Vote: Gammagooey!

before long you'll say we're all scum and you're onto us.
You're back to the gutter zone I see.

Yep, that's all I wanted. A reaction from dramonic.
Got it; I'm happy with it.

As I expected: trying as hard as possible to throw suspicion or doubt on me.
You're tomorrow's lynch dramonic, nothing you can do about it.

Love,
ReaperCharlie

[ReaperCharlie]

Unvote; Vote: Empking

again btw

[ReaperCharlie]

I'd lay $10 that Emp is scum and MrSuave is town. Any takers?

[ReaperCharlie]

Percy... hmmm... never played with him.

[ReaperCharlie]

Well, sh1t boys, looks like I was wrong about Empking. I will need to re-read, but... I am pretttttttty dam# sure that dramonic is scum though.

I'm wondering if Karma was killed instead of me because he was still a wizard. And which school was it that should have had Magic Missiles again?

My suspects today are Dramonic and *gasp!* Gammagooey!

[ReaperCharlie]

I don't feel a scum vibe from ssbf

I feel one from you.

What are your thoughts?

[ReaperCharlie]

Hmmm... he's got a point.

If we go another day without a lynch, we wait for the mafia kill tonight to tell us as much as possible (though he will obviously try to tell us the opposite).

That is to say, if we're in MyLo right now, we can no-lynch for today, and then be in MyLo again at 5 players instead of 6. Which gives us two things:
1. a 40% chance of hitting scum instead of a 33% chance. 2/5 chance instead of 2/6.
2. information from who's flipped (town, obviously). It will confirm their opinions/suspicions as valid.

Honestly enough, we should figure out enough from tonight's flip that it should equal an easy win for us. If we can't, then we fail as a town.

[ReaperCharlie]

Either that, or we could lynch dramonic.

[ReaperCharlie]

My concern is that dramonic suggested the idea of a no-lynch so that I or someone else good with numbers would post a post exactly like my #784, which makes perfect sense.

But after thinking about it for an extra few seconds, I realized 'what am I thinking?! this is POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA!' if we no-lynch today and people apprentice the wrong people tonight, we could already have lost, thanks to somebody getting a vig power they'd otherwise not have gotten!

So... that leaves us with two choices:

1. if we no-lynch, we'll have to make sure not to apprentice anyone.
2. we just lynch somebody.

This of course is counting on the fact that they don't have some other power they haven't used yet, like a lynch threshold lowerer or a double vote capability or something. All speculation, but hey if it saves us the game, then it's worth it.

[ReaperCharlie]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 6

Empking

- 2 - Budja, ReaperCharlie - (L-4)

MrSuave

- 1 - Super Smash Bros. Fan - (L-5)

ReaperCharlie

- 5 - Empking, Karma, Dramonic, Andrius, Gammagooey - (L-1)

Players not voting: MrSuave, Parama

By the way:

Ten bucks says all three (assuming three) scum are/were on my lynch wagon. I was at L-1 for quite some time.

Days

, in fact. Easily enough time for a scum to walk by and *accidentally* quickhammer me ('oh noes!1 ..I didn't realize he was at L-1 already? *fake sobbing*), which shows that clearly either one of our hardcore lurkers is scum, orrrr they're already all on there. I don't see MrSuave as scum, so...

Know what this means? This means that your scum team for POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA is likely

Andrius, Dramonic, and Empking

. There you have it, the patented scumhunting-without-actual-scumhunting technique.

I still get the willies about Karma but I am 90% confident that he's town if Andy flips scum, so. yep.

Oh, and guess what.

This still supports my Gamma/dram theory. Gamma had us fooled, sure, but as long as we don't let him fool us until the end, we can still easily win this.

dram goes first though

Vote: dramonic

[ReaperCharlie]

What do you think of Gammagooey being scum?

[ReaperCharlie]

I can elaborate on the votecount stuff if you want but yeah.

Vote:Dramonic

Please do. Please also explain away the probability that you yourself are scum.

I had a shining town read on you Day 1, but then I thought about it for a second and I realized, you haven't really helped town at all. You were perfectly happy to mislynch me, and you were even the L-1 vote, baiting a townie to hammer. But one didn't, and then I had to flip my wagon around onto Andrius all by me onesies.

You get the rope after dram, Gamma.

[ReaperCharlie]

oh sh*t that was a hammer!?!?

*bites nails*

[ReaperCharlie]

@ mod: apprentice Illusion tonight

oh wait what? REAPER JUST POSTED HIS NIGHT CHOICES IN TEH THREAD!!!

OH SHI-

[ReaperCharlie]

Assuming you aren't scum, of course.

[ReaperCharlie]

PSST, HEY GAMMA, KILL YOURSELF TONIGHT.

[ReaperCharlie]

Because lynches are cooler? And because SSBF is town?

This could certainly be why.

But... hey lets wait for the kill scene.

[ReaperCharlie]

Well yeah if it will stop all kills, great.

We don't need no vig power anyways, so go ahead. Hurry up before SpyreX posts the lynch.

[ReaperCharlie]

I was pretty certain that if Andrius flipped scum, that SSBF was town. I'll have to go re-read.

I trust myself and mostly trust Parama, and don't really trust Budja, Gamma, or SSBF.

If we miss today we will have to hit scum tomorrow. I'll be back for a re-read.

I have a sneaking suspicion that it's Gamma, actually.

[ReaperCharlie]

@ Parama: Then make sure to send in a second choice to account for whoever might be lynched.

This is a decent lynch. As long as all of town keeps apprenticing Parama and we don't have any night kills, this game should be cake to finish out. And what would be hilarious was if Parama was scum and was waiting for 3-man endgame so he could wait for me to vote the other guy and he could quick-hammer and win, loooolz. That'd be sooooo rich. I'd laugh and laugh and laugh.

Anyways,

Vote: Gamma

And on the off chance you happen to be town, don't take it hard. We'll do our best to make sure you still get a "W" in your win column.

[ReaperCharlie]

Hi Budja, what's your opinion on SSBF?

[ReaperCharlie]

Only time I've been lynched as town was in a newbie game. Day 1 and I had the scum pegged. Scum got a perfect victory, needless to say.

[ReaperCharlie]

And Gamma, why in the world would you only bring that stuff up after you were lynched? It might have helped to say it before the hammer, eh?

[ReaperCharlie]

Um.

When it's 3 to lynch, and somebody's started a wagon on you, you DON'T SLEEP.

[ReaperCharlie]

Which schools are available?

[ReaperCharlie]

Vote: Budja

'cause.

[ReaperCharlie]

@ Parama, just in case you aren't convinced, I looked back and here are some things to note:

1. read Budja's last post (ISO #34). It's pretty obvious we're just lynching whoever isn't me or you, and yet Budja actually gives reasons WHY we should vote SSBF, when he doesn't really need to. Plus his #32 clashes with his #34 in that SSBF is town over Gamma because he used his guild mark, but now he's scum because he was pressured into using his guild mark.
2. Look at SSBF's ISO #5 (he wouldn't remind the mod that Kmd was voting Andrius if he was Andrius's buddy, methinks). This should be enough to convince you.

Budja for president of the Hanging club!

That is, unless Parama is the sneaky evil scum! which would be fantastically awesome and I'd give him huge props for looking so town.

If by a miracle Budja flips town, Parama is gonna gank one of us tonight and endgame the other tomorrow. Laaaaaaaaaaame

Parama, quick. Make me think you're town so I don't unvote Budja and vote you!

[ReaperCharlie]

It's gonna be pretty dang hard to convince anyone that I'm scum, especially after me flipping around a wagon onto Andrius, and then getting dramonic lynched too.
And it's gonna be almost as hard to convince anyone that Parama is scum. Soooo...

Good luck.

[ReaperCharlie]

How's that for a tasty WIFOMsandwich?

Ok, why is Parama scum?

[ReaperCharlie]

Then who do you think is scum, and why?

What have you done this game that is pro-town in any way?

[ReaperCharlie]

And SSBF what do you think of Gamma and Parama?

[ReaperCharlie]

So basically its between you and Budja, right SSBF? What do you think of Budja?

[ReaperCharlie]

Would that be the hammer?

*crosses fingers and hopes for a win*

[ReaperCharlie]

Sh*t. Good game Parama. You just went up a notch in my book. I suspected you a lot at the end, but I decided to go against what I thought I knew, and you deserve this win.

Congratulations. *tips hat*

Thanks, SpyreX! Fun game.

[ReaperCharlie]

Andrius and Dramonic were obv, and I thought I had Empking pegged as the final scum. When he flipped town I was like 'UGH! he's SO useless!' and I already knew MrSuave was town, and there was no way I'd have lynched him. I'm pretty sad/mad that he flaked and got modkilled. And also, I'm kind of disappointed that I had doubts about Gamma. I really thought he was the last scum at that point, and was trying to ride my fire into the endgame. After he flipped town, I literally had no idea who to lynch. And that's when Parama's excellent performance came into play. I have been bashing myself over the head for this loss for hours. We HAD this one and it slipped through our fingers.

And thus,

I am nominating Parama for two Scummies for this game, for both Most Cunning Manipulator, and Most Outstanding New Player.

I would appreciate seconds, thirds, fourths, and so on

in the Scummies thread, here

.

[ReaperCharlie]

I thought it was pretty interesting, but what was the original wizard-to-apprentice ratio? 8/4? I think it should have been 6/6, to give more people chances to get apprenticed at the beginning and use some of their more bad@$$ powers. I would definitely play this setup again though. Maybe expand it to a 24-player large theme POWERFUL WIZARD 2 game... but with added twists and insanity. And/or perhaps a cult or serial wizard killer or two

[ReaperCharlie]

It was 8/4 to start. KMD had the idea I thought was going to happen where a school was picked to get juiced and then hijinks from there.

Some of the better guild marks never got used either and it would have been hilarious to see what would have happened - just think, in a perfect storm in one night gamma could have killed 4 people.

Four.

Yeah, but instead, we all LIKE IDIOTS decide to power the scum boss. LOL! this was an epic win/loss.

[ReaperCharlie]

Hahaha nobody better nominate me for a title for this game. Rofl

[ReaperCharlie]

feel free. Once you bring it up in the Title Fairy thread we can begin to discuss it.
There are a number of people who say they have wanted to nom me for a title for a while now.

Personally, I think it's about time for Parama to get one as well. I'll go nominate him

HERE

and you can start a discussion about it with me. Everyone else is also invited. He deserves SOMETHING for this game.

[ReaperCharlie]

Screw that! Let's talk about it anyways. If enough players agree they'll give it to him.

[ReaperCharlie]

psh look at my and yabbaguy's responses to Ythan's post. lol

[ReaperCharlie]

Need more 2nds, 3rds, 4ths, xths... on Parama!

[ReaperCharlie]

NEED. MOAR.

[ReaperCharlie]

The Mafia QT can be found above, the Dead QT is something I'd like to see, though.