Gears of War Mafia (Over!)

[Socrates]

Who are you and what did you do with Jack?

[Socrates]

Plato was a hack.

Spamming A button nowww!!!

Vote Socrates

I don't want to analyze his posts!

Why me specifically?

[Socrates]

CMAR, thoughts on ReaperCharlie's play so far?

[Socrates]

Town win, guaranteed.

Vote: Socrates

You dirty flaker you.

CMAR didn't respond the way I expected him to. At least I can say he isn't scumbuddies with ReaperCharlie.

[Socrates]

Really don't like how Socrates seems to be playing the field right now, example:

CMAR, thoughts on ReaperCharlie's play so far?

Purposely inciting an obvious opponent of RC without adding any input of his own.

That wasn't the point. CMAR was making a big deal about overeacting to early stuff in the RVS, and you can't not call post 69 (snicker) not overly reactive, so I was curious if CMAR would attempt to make a special distinction there for Reaper's hyperactive play and insistence that RVS actions are a free pass.

Then he goes and makes a PBPA of Reaper's RVS play and votes him. CMAR is definitely overeager, but I don't know if that makes him scum.

[Socrates]

Town win, guaranteed.

Vote: Socrates

You dirty flaker you.

Fuck.

[Socrates]

The thing about Socrates is well worth considering him as a suspect. His posts are.. oddly minimal. Socrates, why did you pick CMAR in particular to question? Additionally, why was his opinion important > others?

I already explained this.

[Socrates]

cmar is scum.

soc may be scum.

LOL @ fate's role claim.

reapercharlie out

I'd like you to state why CMAR is scum in your own words.

[Socrates]

Deadpan comedy is the best kind of comedy.

[Socrates]

ReaperCharlie is town. Can't read people worth a damn and is over confident to a fault, but is town.

Blood covenant is scum only if CMAR is also scum. Otherwise his freakout about Fate's role can only come from a pro-town player.

Kise hasn't done much but I don't have a problem with his last post.

MPR is mrmm to me. I can read him better if a little bit of pressure was applied to him.

CMAR's vote on Reapercharlie can be construed as an attempt to buddy up to me, thinking that that is what I wanted to see out of him. I want to see how he follows up on it before I call him scum.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Jack is town. If he is scum and CMAR is town then tunneling like that is a dangerous move for him to make. But that is a malleable read.

I would like something more from Kunk than his suspicion of me.

I will admit right now that I have only skimmed Silverbullet's posts. I'll get back to that.

Fate's alignment will become increasingly obvious as the game progresses.

Nonfactors: Slicey, ABR/DGB's player slot, and Amish_Charney's player slot. Thats about a quarter of the game folks.

[Socrates]

vote:Karma

Thats how I feel about this.

[Socrates]

I wasn't even thinking of that game when I made that comment Fate.

Also, Karma is the scumbag. Vote him.

[Socrates]

Also, let me tell ya, I will laugh

very

hard if the scum team is DGB/Kunk/Karma.

[Socrates]

Also, let me tell ya, I will laugh

very

hard if the scum team is DGB/Kunk/Karma.

If you die tonight, at least we'll know where to look.

OOOOOOHhhhhhhhhhhhh watch scum kill you just because I said that. WIFOMWIFOMWIFOMWIFOM

This is not a vote for The Scumbag.

[Socrates]

@Soc: Have you ever played with Jack? He almost ALWAYS does this to a player in every game, sometimes he's right, sadly, not this time. Hence why I'm generally ignoring him.

Yes I think Soc got caught out putting me into the scum pile to casually. His reason is not a good one at all. He was my scum partner in pypII, he should know that my "tunneling" means nothing.

unvote, vote:Socrates

That + lack of genuine searching.

What?

[Socrates]

You barely posted anything and then did a summary which doesn't match with what you know of people's meta's or with what you said earlier in the thread. AKA you were acting lazy and then threw that post together to look protown.

CMAR is definitely overeager, but I don't know if that makes him scum.

CMAR's vote on Reapercharlie can be construed as an attempt to buddy up to me, thinking that that is what I wanted to see out of him. I want to see how he follows up on it before I call him scum.

His summary of CMAR has nothing to do with what he said about CMAR earlier...and cmar was the main player he singled out. Before he said he was definitely overeager...now it "can be construed" as scum trying to buddy (because that's likely??).

Um, those thoughts aren't contradictory at all. Either he is scum eager to buddy up to me and jump on what he thought was going to be the first easy bandwagon of the game, or he is town who is overeager in his scum hunting and is easily influenced by other players. Either way over eager and can be potentially construed as buddying. I don't know if it makes him scum and I want to see how he follows up on it before I call him scum.

Completely cohesive.

previously mentioned hasty place of me in the town pile for bad reason

I know you are forward thinking enough to know that tunneling on CMAR like that as scum is a dangerous thing to do. *shrug* I know it isn't the best read, but I said it was malleable.

Doesn't mention karma even though he did everyone else, votes him in next post, then it's "Also, Karma is the scumbag. Vote him. "

I forgot about him in that post. Now I had remembered he is in the game, and now I am voting him. You should read his posts.

This is honest to god scum talking about something in the QT and it accidentally leaking over into the thread. CMAR can't really remember the point, Soc brings it up out of the blue in a weird way, and now CMAR somehow knows all about it.

Eh. 2 players can have a similar point without them sharing a quicktopic, Jack.

[Socrates]

Heyheyhey.

K Soc, just making sure.

I'm vigging DGB tonight so no worries.

Also no way in hell I'm derailing this SB wagon onto Karma.

Unvote:
Vote: Karma

I call shenanigans.

[Socrates]

I thought you were intimating that Karma is not The Scumbag. But whatever.

[Socrates]

That is not a vote for The Scumbag. I am disappointed in you Reck.

[Socrates]

You wound me. And my reads in that game were better than most.

Karma is The Scumbag.

Reaper is just dumb.

[Socrates]

Soc is scum, cmar is a partner of his.

Am

not

.

/pout

Reaper, get your ass back on karma.

[Socrates]

The way RC jumped all over that wagon is scummy as hell.

UNVOTE: ReaperCharlie
VOTE: Slicey

Oh come

on

.

This whole thing is shifty as fuck.

There is no way this wagon would get as big as it has without somebody asking for a prod on slicey if he was actually scum.

[Socrates]

MMMMMMMMMMMMM.

NOW THIS IS HOW YOU DEAL WITH LURKERS.

I LOVE THIS

TOWN

blatantly obvious scum team.

Fixed.

Karma dies violently, and then Kunkstar dies even more violently.

[Socrates]

^^^ Sooooooooooo scum.

[Socrates]

Karma Kunkstar and DGB are scum, Sensfan.

But we're lynching Slicey right now because his refusal to play D1 takes a lynch to the face.

I'd rather have a perfect game and brag about it to all my friends than teach somebody a lesson he wont probably learn.

[Socrates]

Well, since I am not a neighbor with CMAR, this whole thing is goofy to say the least.

[Socrates]

Why vote me and not CMAR, since my scumness seems to be predicated on CMAR being scum?

[Socrates]

I'm not scum though nor do I have any way to communicate with CMAR, thats the thing. I'm very confused here.

Jack should elaborate on the cirsumstances of CMAR's "soft-claim". When did he do it?

I don't think the mod would give CMAR-scum two neighbors. And I already answered this question in my post...

Your reason gave me de`javu, Jack. You remember my "reasoning" when I bussed you in that game I mentioned.

[Socrates]

EBWOP:

I'm not scum though nor do I have any way to communicate with CMAR, thats the thing. I'm very confused here.

Jack should elaborate on the cirsumstances of CMAR's "soft-claim". When did he do it?

I don't think the mod would give CMAR-scum two neighbors. And I already answered this question in my post...

Your reason gave me de`javu, Jack. You remember my "reasoning" when I bussed you in that game

I

you mentioned.

[Socrates]

I refuse to fix that typo. It's part of who I am.

[Socrates]

I'm not scum though nor do I have any way to communicate with CMAR, thats the thing. I'm very confused here.

Why are you very confused? If you were townie I don't see why you'd be confused--it would be simple, CMAR is scum and took the opportunity to frame you--you at least sounded confident earlier that the connection between you two was obviously just coincidence. In no way would your not being neighbors with CMAR make the whole thing "goofy", since no one is assuming you are.

Well, considering that it is a

very

stupid thing for CMAR to do here. He claims neighbors with me and I just "uh, no." and then he gets lynched. There's no way it is that simple.

Jack should elaborate on the cirsumstances of CMAR's "soft-claim". When did he do it?

I pushed him on the tunneling thing soon after posting my case.

Uhhh, that doesn't answer my question, Jack.

I don't think the mod would give CMAR-scum two neighbors. And I already answered this question in my post...

Your reason gave me de`javu, Jack. You remember my "reasoning" when I bussed you in that game I mentioned.

Ok, so the reason you asked a question that had already been answered was that you think I'm scum with CMAR? Assuming you aren't accusing me of bussing now. Yeah, I'm going to say you were grasping for a response with this post.

No, the point is that that line of argument is very shifty very useful for scum to use to vote for whoever is most convenient for them. Damn straight I am calling you out on logic that you yourself pointed out as questionable in out game together.

Let me ask you a question, Jack. What do you plan to do when I flip town? Are you going to go "Golly gee willickers! Well, CMAR can still be a scum neighbor, that doesn't change anything!".

If so I am calling you out right now.

[Socrates]

SOCRATES, DIE YOU LATIN DISRESPECTING SCUM

FUCK LATIN I AM GREEK!

[Socrates]

CMAR I spy you posting elsewhere.

[Socrates]

This is seriously dumb.

The entire suspicion on me is entirely based on CMAR also being scum, and if he isn't, then the entire case falls apart.

So why not at least attempt to confirm CMAR's alignment before you mislynch me?

I know its because SOME people don't actually care about what my alignment is, but I digress.

[Socrates]

This is seriously dumb.

The entire suspicion on me is entirely based on CMAR also being scum, and if he isn't, then the entire case falls apart.

So why not at least attempt to confirm CMAR's alignment before you mislynch me?

I know its because SOME people don't actually care about what my alignment is, but I digress.

I ALREADY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION

Why are people unvoting and voting CMAR???????

I ALREADY SAID THAT THAT REASONING IS SCUMMY!

[Socrates]

Wait yeah

Unvote, Vote: CMAR

We can analyze his connections tomorrow

What's the matter with you -

You're not letting the scum tell you how to vote, are you?

The Irony my god.

[Socrates]

What the fuck is a scum neighbor and how does the correlate with Gears of War flavor?

I mean fuckin seriously? I want names before I start buying into Jack's paranoid townie "I CAUGHT TWO SCUM!"

That said I guess Socrates is the wagon d'jour now.

Unvote:
Vote: Socrates

His defense of LYNCH CMAR NOT ME WUH is pretty goddamned laughable.

No, the lynch Socrates and not the guy supposedly incriminated in the case is the laughable thing.

I will demand a public apology from you after I am flipped town for your stupidity.

[Socrates]

Okie dokie.

[Socrates]

I don't AtE. This is something I fully plan on holding you to.

[Socrates]

*shrug*

You know that town can still win after they're dead right? Your lynch won't matter much in the long run.

I think it has already been established in this thread that I disagree with you, but the bigger issue is that there is more than my lynch going on.

If I am lynched and

then

someone starts to argue that CMAR is still prob scum, string that mofo up on the spot.

[Socrates]

The fatal flaw in your logic Fate is that I don't think CMAR is necessarily scum.

[Socrates]

If I focused on getting Karma lynched, then I would be accused of trying to deflect from the CMAR-issue.

Either way it is really a deflection in the eyes of someone who wants to view it as such.

[Socrates]

Which reminds me, I need to add Deflection to my list.

[Socrates]

It wasn't really intended as one, Reck

[Socrates]

For the record, I don't think I have been clear enough about this. I have decided that I think CMAR is probably town from this whole affair. If he WAS scum, he would be getting bussed by his scum buddies at this time as he will have proven himself to be a liability to his team and getting me mislynched wont save him in the long run. Furthermore, his actions would make no sense to actually commit as scum, as there is no real benifit and only serves to make him look bad, and since this is deep south game I can't imagine that his scum buddies wouldn't have talked him out of doing something so dumb.

A simple explanation to the current formulation of the wagons is that the scum are attempting to have their cake and eat it too. They want to mislynch me as an extention of the CMAR case, and then when I flip town fall back on the CMAR case still standing. This would indicate that CMAR is town.

I am going to call Hanlon's razor on this right now and say that there was almost definitely miscommunication going on in the neighbor QuickTopic. I was waiting for CMAR to post more to further investigate this, but he has failed to appear.

xReck is town
CMAR is town
Jack's claim is probably indicative of being town, and that can be coupled with my earlier town read on him to conclude that he is probably town, but I still find his vote on me to be dubious.
DGB is scum
Fate's vote on me is also dubious, but his recent interactions with me feel genuine.

I will have more to say after a little more time has passed.

[Socrates]

I think it is also important to note who is currently lurking at this time.

Both Karma and Blood Covenant have posted without giving thoughts on the current matter as well as CMAR failing to materialize. Am I forgetting anyone else?

CMAR's lurking gives me a large pause with regards to my current theory on the gamestate.

[Socrates]

Cuz I just saw you have wings in your avatar. nice

Those are not wings, that is another person in the background. The image was cropped.

[Socrates]

It seems like we are playing half a game right now. Slicey, Kunk, Karma, Sensfan, MPR, Kise, and CMAR himself haven't really posted in a while.

I don't think DGB actually knows what flailing scum looks like, as I am pretty sure I have only seen her apply it to townies.

[Socrates]

Hmmm. Wagons are shifting again, this time to my weakest scum read. It's times like this that I start to get really nervous about my reads. I need to re-read and go over where I stand in this game.

Cry REALLY needs to post.

MOD: I think we need prods on quite a few players.

[Socrates]

Well, this is just ridiculous.

unvote, vote:CMAR

[Socrates]

Yay for the unannounced L-1 vote!

Kill Karma tomorrow plox.

[Socrates]

I get it.

[Socrates]

MPR, reads on all players in the game.

now

CMAR: Sniper Drone, Locust Goon lynched D1.

A very important word is missing from this flip. I am confused.

[Socrates]

I want to wait and see if anybody else sees it before I say.

Jack, please flavor claim.

[Socrates]

That is not a flavor claim, Jack.

[Socrates]

I must not be paying enough attention if that is anything but a non-sequitur.

[Socrates]

Wow you guys really don't see it. The important word missing from CMAR's flip? "Neighbor". CMAR flipped a mafia goon, not a scum neighbor! Furthermore, how the fuck do you justify with flavor being a neighbor with a drone?

Notice how Jack still refuses to give a flavor claim. Why refuse? It shouldn't hurt him any if he is what he says he is.

I smell a gambit. A poorly thought out one at that.

[Socrates]

Well, this is easy. Either Socrates or Jack is scum. Both of them is a possibility, but less likely.

Confused as well by the same thing as Socrates, so agree on the flavor claim idea.

Yea, you are going to have to explain this dichotomy.

[Socrates]

Soc, what do you think of reaper?

I have no issues with Reaper.

[Socrates]

Blah.

vote:Jack

until he flavor claims.

Somebody is going to vote me for that.

The last bit since I last posted has contained nothing of interest at all. If Fate/Reck/Reaper would stop with their pissing contest maybe it would be easier to maintain interest in this game.

[Socrates]

Yea, I am going to stick with my vote.

Mod does need a round of prods, though.

[Socrates]

Oh hey I am being quicklynched. Fantastic.

If the back half of my wagon is town they should be ashamed of themselves.

I am a watcher. I am not sure if I should claim what I saw last night.

mod: please do an activity check.

[Socrates]

Bah humbug.