Mini 978 - The Wire Mafia - Game Over!

[VP Baltar]

/confirm

Hi Raider! Long time no see.

[VP Baltar]

psh, you ignored me first in the mini theme queue. brat.

Just to spite you, I'll listen to some music tonight. possibly music you really like.

[VP Baltar]

B) Who monitors the Queue?!

Only losers I guess.

What was the Baltimore Sun's editor again? He's my favorite non-Omar character that hasn't been claimed already.

[VP Baltar]

Also, once the day starts we should quicklynch Sotty. I'm completely serious about this.

[VP Baltar]

I shant be stopped in this crusade. Stuff your sorries in a sack lady!

[VP Baltar]

Vote: Sotty

It worked!

[VP Baltar]

Also, once the day starts we should quicklynch Sotty. I'm completely serious about this.

WHy, btw?

Super secret awesome reasons.

Also, vengence kill, which I'm sure someone of your constitution could appreciate.

[VP Baltar]

Also, once the day starts we should quicklynch Sotty. I'm completely serious about this.

WHy, btw?

Super secret awesome reasons.

Also, vengence kill, which I'm sure someone of your constitution could appreciate.

Indeed I can appreciate that.

Can you name the game?

psh, I'll give you two for the price of one!

Open 189 - I called her scumbuddy waaaay early in the game and no one would listen to me until she helped mega bus him and then she skated to the endgame victory with almost no suspicion on her.

Then in my recently modded Mini 942 she bamboozled the town in basically the way, bussing her lame duck partner Cobalt Day 1 and then accidentally bussing her other partner Day 2. Town basically gave her very little real attention after that.

The only argument for keeping her around is that if we find a scum she'll help kill him or her...but it's owed to those great souls that lost in these games that she at least suffers through burden of proficiency for a little while!

[VP Baltar]

Unvote, Vote: Jason

I have a new theory.

@Locke - I would also like to know if you were serious.

[VP Baltar]

I'm dead serious about the Sotty wagon as my first wagon of the game. I haf evidence.

The reaction is basically what I expected from her...there isn't much else she can say is there. However, my new theory may offer fruits later about her. Only time will tell.

[VP Baltar]

Sotty or jason - please link me some of the games you guys have played together in.

[VP Baltar]

You know, camn, I expect this kind of thing from ani, but you? You just went up on my list.

Yo, CDB, say something interesting so I don't have to kill you.

[VP Baltar]

You know,

camn

, I expect this kind of thing from ani, but you? You just went up on my list.

Yo, CDB, say something interesting so I don't have to kill you.

[VP Baltar]

This is a good debate. Everyone should take sides. From my glance, I believe Sotty. More jason lynching now.

[VP Baltar]

jeez, what a bunch of wimps. Just pick a damn side and stop being jellyfish. Sotty or jason. You don't even have to vote if you're that scared. pick whichever side your gut leans.

[VP Baltar]

Deer v. ani is dumb. You're plain wrong, ani. Just let it go for now.


More Sotty v. Jason action.

[VP Baltar]

The last few pages have been crazy, but unbelievably informative. Ani, camn, sensfan, cdb and sotty are all town.

Fate wagon is where it's at. Saying you thought someone was a powerrole, fished them out, then when they claimed the wrong thing fished some more? Time to dieeeeeeeeee.

Unvote, Vote: Fate

(L-2)

Jason, Jebus, Deer, Raider - Thoughts on this awesome Fate wagon?

[VP Baltar]

I understand a few of these, but CDB? Sensfan? Explain.

Explain to insta-OMGUSing scum who is now claiming 'lulz just playing with ani for reactions and claim check'? Ah, no.

[VP Baltar]

VP, explain why you think analyzing my own wagon, knowing there is likely scum on it, and picking out the scummiest vote as my suspect to vote is scummy?

Because your "analysis" is bunk. You vote me because you claim I didn't see you pushing ani's claim as a town move and I'm in a "scummy position" on your wagon. This is you trying to make your OMGUS not look like OMGUS.

When did i say I was just playing with ani? Yes I did claim check ani because he was acting bizarre as hell and I wanted to make sure I wasn't just buying a fakeclaim.

My point is that you had no reason to push it that far in the first place when ani was clearly town acting dumb. It really was not a hard situation to read. Of course, scum trying to force a claim makes perfect sense. Congrats, your buddies know who to kill tonight. Too bad you won't be around to celebrate with them.

[VP Baltar]

VP Baltar is there scum on my wagon?

I don't really think so. It happened quickly, so your buddies probably didn't get a good chance to bus yet. We'll catch them on the tail end.

If ani was clearly town acting dumb what do you think of the other votes on Ani? Jason, Deer, etc.

Scummy.

You just piggy backed on Sotty's reasoning to vote me, so don't act like you came up with your own BULLETPROOF SOLID CASE on me.

I was working last night and then went to bed. All of those pages happened before I even checked this thread. Doesn't mean you don't look obv scum for it just because Sotty beat me too the punch.

[VP Baltar]

Everyone on the ani wagon gets at least SOME scum points in my book. You and Jason look the worst however if you want specifics. Alles Klar?

[VP Baltar]

Hi, Deer. What's up?

[VP Baltar]

Hey VP, it's unlike you not to be on my case all the time, particularly if I haven't posted for a few days. What gives?

Didn't you declare V/LA? I'm not going to attack you for that. I agree with Fate (surprise) that this was kind of a weird thing to say.

Also, who is more scummy, Fate or Raider?

[VP Baltar]

Sotty being unreasonable is a scum Sotty.

That's not true at all actually. She's logical as scum...just in a misleading way.

Also, lol bomb claim. Scum have never pulled that one before. Additionally, the role you are implying is Super Saint, not bomb. You should check the wiki before you try to fake claim.

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[VP Baltar]

Its Bomb on IRC, anyway that's not my role name.

It is just one of my abilities.

VP just in case you ego allows you the 5% chance to be wrong, who do you want to hammer?

And no, you can't say raider.

One of your multiple abilities. What other cool magic can you do?

I'd like Jason to hammer you. Remember him, he's totally in this game.

[VP Baltar]

What do you think about Jason hammering you?

[VP Baltar]

If camn and Fate are done with the pissing contest, Jason should definitely hammer now. Camn, you should get back on the wagon. Let the scum do their own dirty work if they want you dead.

@LL - both of those games had different mechanics re: deadline that required much more posting from everyone. RRM had 7 day deadlines and MoO made it so a lynch could happen quickly if the town wanted it. Additionally, I have bigger fish to fry than lurkers atm.

[VP Baltar]

Why the hell do you want the claimed cop to hammer?

Camn shouldn't hammer because now she's a threat to the scum. They either kill her and give up the secret info or they let her live as very likely town.

Perhaps people should listen to me for a change.

[VP Baltar]

Just relax ani. You're not hammering. Deer hammer would be good too.

[VP Baltar]

Claiming supersaint as town isn't really a great idea unless you think the person planning to hammer you is town and you want to prevent that. The fact that Fate claimed Bomb (the IRC name) shows me he probably isn't actually a supersaint anyhow.

Also, Supersaint is a great last ditch scum claim because it scares people away from lynching you. I say we force someone who is scummy to hammer. If they refuse, we know they are scum.

[VP Baltar]

Mod, please prod Jason

[VP Baltar]

Deer, yes or no, do you believe Fate's bomb claim?

[VP Baltar]

@Raider - what do you mean evidence that fate is lying? If it hasn't been obvious since he claimed it, he literally just said he wasnt' a bomb in his last post.

Anyhow, I'm ready to lynch Deer now. Was hoping to string him along a bit more on the claim issue so it would be much more obvious how scummy his stance is, but Fate just ruined that. Deer can die today and we'll see where we're at tomorrow.

I definitely want to see a catch up post from Jason before the day ends. Something from Jebus would be good too. If you have an image post restriction, then give us a couple images with some actual thoughts in it.

[VP Baltar]

Their connection with each other is weird. Sens is playing to his town meta as far as I can tell. camn is a bit more of a murky read. I think fate is right that she's vote hopping strangely at times (as I pointed out with ani), but it's also been a really long time since I've seen her play. I'm reserving judgement there until I've seen some flips.

However, if Fate is scum, they're both pretty obviously town.

[VP Baltar]

Jebus is thinking about jumping off a cliff? cool.

Deer's non death claim is lol. So, I should go ahead and hammer Deer?

[VP Baltar]

Let's lynch Fate today. Someone shoot Deer tonight.

Hammer should fall after requested catchup posts.

[VP Baltar]

No. We lynch Deer today. Call it WIFOM, but I'm betting there's no Lynch-Immune Scum. So if he doesn't die, he's Town.

And then we've wasted a lynch. If he's really lynch immune, then there's probably a vig out there. That or scum will absolutely have to kill him tonight because he's a lylo liability. Either way, he's dead. No sense in wasting our lynch on a dead man walking.

[VP Baltar]

Absolutely brilliant. So if there's no Vig, Scum can auto-win any game by claiming Unlynchable.

Yes, well, I don't think making illogical plays out of fear of precedence is going to win anything for town.

[VP Baltar]

Scum know if he's telling the truth or not. If they don't kill him, then he's a lylo liability to them. You guys want to do the work for scum and possibly waste our lynch today. Not pro-town.

[VP Baltar]

The downside is that the only flip we get tomorrow is from an obv town person and fate lives another day.

Lynching is the only weapon the town has to kill scum (that we know of), so why spend it on someone you think only COULD be lying? Do you believe his claim or not?

We know fate lied about his claim, so why not lynch him?

[VP Baltar]

What's the scum motivation for claiming bomb again?

To scare people away from hammering you....which is what happened actually. I'm pretty sure I've already said this. I've seen it before as well, so you're not even original if your'e scum.

The fact that neither of them want to hear my realclaim and just lynch me quickstyle just makes me *Facepalm*

Actually you were asked for your real claim and you refused, saying only that you weren't the bomb and such. But I guess it doesn't much matter since I didn't really believe your claim in the first place.

Camn speculating on self imposed role restrictions.... not sure on this, I actually am thinking Jebus may have been gagged.

What do you mean by gagged?

Page 16 of bickering made my head hurt. I'm glad to see Jason posting more now and that makes me feel better about him at the moment. Fate's insistence seems townish as well unfortunately. Let's just lynch deer and if it fails we'll deal with the consequences tomorrow (and I'll say I told you so if he is indeed town and we waste a lynch).

I'm ready to hammer unless anyone wants to hear anything else.

[VP Baltar]

now it's a one-shot...if you guys are town I really hope you learn from this game that lying about your role looks REALLY bad.

[VP Baltar]

Thanks for the game Macavity! I really think the setup was pretty great overall...though I would have made the masons into neighbors instead. Flavor or not, confirmed masons are a huge boon to towns in a mini.

I had fun playing with everyone in the game and my only regret is that I died so early. Would have loved some challenging moments later in the game.

[VP Baltar]

You see now how I was obvtown?

Who me? Well yeah, you guys kind of made the mason thing pretty obvious after awhile. And you always look town, so no harm in testing the waters to be sure, right?

It's the same thing with Sotty...hence pre-game power wagon to see how she'd respond.