Mini 978 - The Wire Mafia - Game Over!

[jasonT1981]

confirmed

[jasonT1981]

vote: Deer

Grammer Police Nazi

[jasonT1981]

OK, I am here... sorry spent most of today in my bed ill.

Sotty... I didn't react to the wagon, well because I thought VP was joking to get the game going. I didn't realize he was serious until after my first post were he started giving out links to past games.

Camn, hello again. No, I am not scum and therefor can not answer if Sotty is scum... Though i do know Sottys game play quite well as like she says, we have played many... many times... I think I can get a very good read on her if she is scum.

[jasonT1981]

And you will see in some of those games.... scum sotty twisted my meta to try and lynch me early on in the games I believe... just like now.

[jasonT1981]

I kinda think Deers comments were off the cuff given my origional vote on him calling him a rammer nazi and really see no harm in what he said. It obiviously was a funny/sarcastic comment coming off my comment... I would doubt anyone would actually admit to not wanting to scum hunt.

unvote

animorpherv1 I think is making quite a bit too much of Deers comment/joke/sarcasm (whatever you want to call it) and is pushing that comment about not scum hunting quite far which actually I feel has taken him away from scum hunting as well as he is so focused on Deers joke.

right now my eye is acually on SensFan, his contributions seem to be quite sporatic with no real intention to scum hunt.. I also never have really liked callign Obv town on day 1. to me Obv town is someone who has been confirmed town through process of elimination/investigation and sometimes protection.

Camn, well I dislike people using smilies in mafia, I have found those using them to have a bit of a guily concious... a wink tell I believe it is called. We actually nailed scum in a game I was playing in recently who overused winks.. unfortinutly I can not link to this game as it is still on going.

Actually, I would like to see a bit more from SensFan apart from the random posts he has made making no contribution.

vote:SensFan

I would also like him to explain this comment a bit further.

And Fate, Camn is obvtown. If you can't see it, its not her fault.

I cant see anyone being Obv town, not on day 1 page 5... care to explain more as to why camn is Obv town? Only people who can know for sure that someone is Obv town... is scum... as scum know the person is not scum.

this following is also evidence he does not really wnat to scum hunt and just wants to know the current wagon, as if he can not be bothered to actually read the ame

Just got back from being offline for a couple days. Who's the biggest wagon on?

then, upon being told Deer is the popular wagon... and heat going on animorpherv1 on the current page he makes his vote on what now could be the popular wagon. declaring moar votes

Got it.

Unvote, Vote: Ani

NEEDS MOAR VOTES.

Something really strikes me as wrong with SensFan right now.

Anyway, short V/LA for me. I am going to bed now (1.32am)and not going to be about tomorrow, its a big sporting day for me (England soccer game, Northern Ireland soccer game, Formula one, Nascar) so not going to be near a computer much.

[jasonT1981]

Because claiming to not scumhunt (even if it is just a joke) should've resulted in at least one of the following:

A) A claim
B) A policy lynch
C) Forced to give opinions on everyone
D) A warning from the mod (because I belive in giving chances when I mod)
E) Something else I forgot

none of which have happened

Wait... your seriously expecting

1) a claim on page 4 based of a off the cuff comment
2) a policy lynch based on this comment?
3) Mod warning

Seriously?

Why a mod warning? I actually seriously frown upon this and find it quite scummy. It almost seems like you want a mod warning which I see as scummy

wanting a claim when no where near lynch? role fishing anyone?

Policy lynch? really?????

[jasonT1981]

animorpherv1, I am seriously considering changing my vote to you based on your last posting... can you explain why you expect the following to me please? I had you slightly on my radar when I voted Sens....

but your last post seemed very opertunistic scum to me.. I want to give you the opertunity to expain your post to me first.

[jasonT1981]

Sens= town. He is playing just like every other town game I have ever seen him in. A

nd seriously... noticing >I< am town hardly takes a genius. I am like, the most obv of obv.

[jasonT1981]

Camn, can you link me to some of the games you have seen Sens play before as town like this please? I have never played with him so his play is suspicious to me right now....

I do not like this comment from you though

Sens= town. He is playing just like every other town game I have ever seen him in. A

nd seriously... noticing >I< am town hardly takes a genius. I am like, the most obv of obv.

Buddying maybe? he calls you Obv town and you say he is town.....

[jasonT1981]

Camn, something I just noticed... is there any reason you keep going out of your way to say you are town.... its like you have a bit of a guilty concious or something going close to the point you have to keep telling yourself you are town so you actually believe it yourself

....

Please, VP. I am as town as the day is long.
The fact that you can't see it yet is your problem.

VP not noticing how obvtown I am?
I know.. It is TOTALLY not a towntell!

And yes, to your above question. Relevance?
Do you see animorph's persistence as townie?

And seriously... noticing >I< am town hardly takes a genius. I am like, the most obv of obv.

[jasonT1981]

gah, MS ate my post. One of these things should've happened, regardless of it being a joke:

A) A claim
B) A mod warning (Because I don't belive you should modkill without giving warnings first)
C) Being forced to explain opinions on everyone
D) Something else I think I've forgotten

Yea, you said... we saw... it ate no post...

Explain please....

[jasonT1981]

Also... think fast on D.. what is the something you have forgotten.

[jasonT1981]

And yet still no explination...

and mod warning goes to mod KILL????

EXPLAIN NOW!

[jasonT1981]

And yet you STILL have failed to explain... and now your back to warning...

I have given you plenty of time to explain, you repeatily fail to explain..

unvote
vote:animorpherv1

you constantly have failed to scum hunt and gone after Deer on an off the cuff comment, despite claiming his comment shows he wont scum hunt


Made ludicrious suggestions that play into scums hand if they actually were to be enforced.

Constantly failed to back up your actions and avoided the questions several times

[jasonT1981]

My explaination to that question was that is was a screw up on my part.

/head-desk.....your still bloody avoiding it

Because claiming to not scumhunt (even if it is just a joke) should've resulted in at least one of the following:

A) A claim
B) A policy lynch
C) Forced to give opinions on everyone
D) A warning from the mod (because I belive in giving chances when I mod)
E) Something else I forgot

none of which have happened

Wait... your seriously expecting

1) a claim on page 4 based of a off the cuff comment
2) a policy lynch based on this comment?
3) Mod warning

Seriously?

Why a mod warning? I actually seriously frown upon this and find it quite scummy. It almost seems like you want a mod warning which I see as scummy

wanting a claim when no where near lynch? role fishing anyone?

Policy lynch? really?????

My question was wanting justifications for your reasons for wanting these. Not about a screw up in your last posts.

[jasonT1981]

I'm Al Capone, a Doctor.

Why do they

ALWAYS

claim doc.....

[jasonT1981]

wait.... Al Capone? A doctor?

that makes no sense, was he not a gangster..

further wait... this is a WIRE TV SHOW based mafia....why would Al Capone be in a wire based mafia game???

that claim makes 0 sense

[jasonT1981]

Yeah let's just say I wouldn't be too surprised if a counter-claim were to appear, but I'll take him off L-1 for now.

Thats what I think he was trying to do, get a doctor counterclaim. I can not for the life of me buy Al Capone being a doctor in a mafia game based on the wire TV show.

[jasonT1981]

From top down:

Hence why I didn't want a mass name claim.

We were allowed to send in names of people we wanted in the game. I sent in Al Capone for a pretty cool mafia role. I had no ide it would land to me getitng a TOWN DOCTOR ROLE.

I knwo.

Who said

ANYTHING

about a mass claim?

Forgive me... but would your role not be pre-determined by the mod before this.. you seem to be sayin you got the doc role based on your reply to the mod? that I think is the biggest load of BS ever

[jasonT1981]

@Fate:

I was whacked by another competeitior, now I need to play something that Battousai calls "The Guardian Game'

I DON'T GET IT...

what the hell are you on about? whacked by another competatior??? Who is Battousai and what has he got to do with this game and wtf is The Guardian Game....

[jasonT1981]

FFF. I GOT THIS GAME MIXED UP WITH ANOTHER........

lol, are you sure?... your reply

WAS

directed at Fate

[jasonT1981]

So your a cop now, after getting your games mixed up? jesus fucking christ, I am pulling my hair out?

Jesus christ. I am going to bed now, like I was meant to over an hour ago.

FTR: I don't buy this BS Ani is spouting.

[jasonT1981]

Hold on one damn minute...

everyone in the wire are police members from what I have seen (cops) at least the good guys are....

also

did you even READ my paraphrased flavour? Also, it my ability is labelled Investigate.

Also, upon further reading of my Role PM (because I assumed earlier that Investigate = Cop), I'm apparently looking for a Snitch who is will tell us the name of (at least some) of the Mafia members.

I work for Lieutenant Cedric Daniels in the Narcotics devision for several years, with my friend Thomas “Herc” Hauk. Then it goes on about Lt. Daniels being put in Charge of this case, and me following him. I'm apparently wary of Detective Kima Greggs, who is also in the Narcotics division, because she's a better cop then I am, but I'm going to do my best anyways.

no where in your paraphrasing does it say about investiation, so Fates question stands. ok, its 3am I cant get my head around all this nonsense right now...

now, you add on it also about the snitch? Urgh. this is doing my bloody head in now. I really do not believe this rubbish.

[jasonT1981]

Alright

unvote

I still think he is full of shit, but if he is telling the truth he could be useful, especially if he does catch the snitch and gets name of the mafia..


goodnight everyone. Will be back on Monday.

[jasonT1981]

Watching sport all day like I said so I wont be about much, but I do have the following questions to Ani.

1)Aside from all the Deer stuff... who actually picks up the radar as scum for you?

2)Again, aside from the Deer stuff you have continuely tunnelvisioned have we missed anything that you have picked up on that can help identify scum?

3)Do you see Camn as obivious town? and what do you think of Camn and Sens both declaring each other town... actually, this question could be expanded to everyone but I would like you to answer it as well.

4)Do you feel Camn is going to far to convince people he is town with his constant posts of 'I am town' and so forth when right now he really has little heat on him. This question could be expanded to everyone as well.

5)Do you actually see Deer as scum or were you looking a lynch solely based on his comments about the scumhunting and grammer?

I am still looking at SensFan as potential to be scum, I know he and camn have both declared each other town which is unsettling to the point I think there is buddying there. He needs to post More actual game content and he needs to post it yesterday.

Back to my day of sport I go

[jasonT1981]

jaison. Camn is Town. Stop pestering me about it, and just accept it. I don't really care if you see it, just trust me. Thanks.

Leaving my vote on ani since there's nowhere better to put it right now.
Deer, grow a pair and vote someone.

No, sorry I wont leave it... I need more than you saying Camn is town as reasoning Camn is town.

Only one group can know for sure on day 1 that someone is town.... that is scum.

It is amazing how much buddying is gonig on between you both.

[jasonT1981]

actually

vote:
SensFan

evidence please Camn is town....how can you know for sure? I wont just accept he is town on day 1 because you say so and tell me to accept it.

[jasonT1981]

thats not rolefishing.... thats wanting to know how someone can declare someone else town on day 1.

[jasonT1981]

hmmm thats now 3 people have all said that is Sens playstyle...

I have not played with him before and found it weird.. alot of me still does, but I guess I am outnumbered on this one in finding him scummy

[jasonT1981]

Very interesting.. Sotty made some excellent points against him and I would love to see how he defends himself about

A)voting someone he supected a PR all along by the seems of things

B) voting someone he talked about being Jester... knowing a Jesters win condition is to be lynched

[jasonT1981]

Got my internet sorted out, there was some fault on the phone line apparently which severly limited my browsing. Got a bit to catch up on, and will do so in the morning/afternoon.. whenever I drag my ass outta bed. (its 11.45pm here)

Though Raider, from what I see at a quick glance... if he did claim bomb (as there was seemingly a lot of discussion about it), or even hint at it... then claim something different later, then he may well have lied.

But I need to read the full game from my last post to catch up properly on this and see what fully happened..

[jasonT1981]

finishing my catch up now... will have thoughts soon.

[jasonT1981]

Alright, my last post was about Ani on page 8.. so lets start there eh?

Ok post 190 Deer votes me accusing me of role fishing for questioning about the Camn/Sens link... This was not role fishing more wondering how the hell Sens is so defensive of Camn, I still at this point think one could be scum and the other is buddying..

hmmm Jebus post restricted? I am beginning to think this however his post 198 actually makes me think he has been gagged and can only post votes given his mouth taped up picture.

Sotty has made a damn good point about Fate having Ani pegged as a PR yet still voting... very odd indeed.

Oh, my mistake, I posted on page 9 asking about this very thing.

Fate then dodges questions in 202 then 204 says Sottys voting him for the right reasons?? hint of scum maybe?

Camns 208 I like calling fate on everythin.. Fate responds in 209 saying VP is confirmed scum because he dismissed his claim... what?

211 fate says he isnt refusing to answer questions, this is a lie with his arrows or YYYYY whatever post a while back dodging Camn I believe it was.. fate then jumps on another person questioning him in Raider. This is strange.

VP is scum because he dismissed OMGUS now Raider says he is fine with a Fate lynch and fate votes him???

Ohhh... Deer jumps in on the raider wagon right away.

Locke makes a great 228 post, saying it looked like Fate was looking an excuse to unvote with the claim by ani.. I very much aree with this. His logic that he had him pegged as a PR and unvotes the moment Ani claims power role seems more like the role fishing he accused me off. It was like he knew Ani wasnt scum and wanted a claim out of him, giving him a reason to look good by unvoting.

Oh jesus, now locke questions Fate.. and Fate is suspicious of him?? Damn fate, not looking good, you are snapping anyone who looks at you.

Camn speculating on self imposed role restrictions.... not sure on this, I actually am thinking Jebus may have been gagged.

Ahhh. Camn has suspicion on fate... and look fate now votes camn

Camn
Locke
VP
Raider

All spoken against Fate so far, each one FOSed or voted.as of 232

Ani, I agree with your post... aLl fate is doing is accusin anyone who accuses him with no case

Now sotty speaks against Fate and guess what/... Sotty is scum with Camn!!

Fate wants Camn to hammer? Interestin, could this be because of the bomb thing talked about?

Ah, fate admits he lies about his bomb claim in 244 only claiming if camn hammers?? Ah, bomb is one of his abilities eh? Thats why he wants camn to hammer.... he says he thinks camn is scum... interesting, he may know he is town and wants to blow him up

I am actually startting to think Camn is town given that post from Fate. If at this point fate is lynched Camn is pretty much town (I think) as scum would not want one of his buddys hammering a bomb

Deer declares Fate town.. this is weird.

FOS: Deer

VP wants me to hammer, fair enough.. I was questioned as scum earlier, I guess I can see his point if Fate is bomb you would want someone you think is scum hammering. Town play by VP I think.

At this opoint I must point out, dispite all the bomb discussion Fate has already laughed at Ani for beleiving it... therefor making fate a lier!

Sens declaring fate town again... this is getting weird for me.

Jebus is only posting pics, yea, I think he has been gaged.

Now fate is almost daring people to hammer him in 273.. appealing to fear of others maybe. SCUM TATIC

vp wants me to hammer now... actually, If I was about I actually think I would have made the hammer... Fate is obiviously lying and even admited it to Ani I feel

Ani making jester speculation??

Camn wanting claimerd cop to hammer a suspected bomb? Weird

VP 203 is giving me more town vibes from him

ohhhh... Deer point blank refusing to hammer???? interesting!! SCUM!!!! And when questioned by Ani, his only response is LOL.

Deer not finding fate scummy for rolefishing or anything else? Awesome found 2 scum

Senfans first post I actually like saying hammer or be lynched... +1 for me

Where the hell has fate gone to?

Deers defence is getting weird, after everythin fate has done he refuses to acknowledge anything as scum? Saying he wont hammer incase he is bomb... A townie should have no fear of dying as there are plenty of town to outnumber scum... only scum fear getting killed.

Deer... taunting the town I feel with his 327... Im town.. lynch me if you want is almost taunting and is avoiding questions now.

Camn actually picks on something I was thinknig in 340.. where the hell is deer

ohhh.. as soon as he is called, he replies with obsecenties at Camn... LOL

Fate does an anylisis and realizes he is not L-1 or hot wagon now and asks if he did something protown LOL... nice, hides away until heat is off.. LURKER!!!!

HEH fate jumps on Deer wagon

Awesome, 364... desperate cries from scum deer, lynch me I wont die!! heh heh...

Scumfate claims bomb to stop lynch
ScumDeer claims unlynchable

both fear related claims to stop hammers I feel

Sottys 374 is LOL... but in my experience true, if she was scum she would be on her partners wagon already.

Deer, spreads fear again... if you guys want a no lynch today vote him...god this guy cracks me up

VP, lets lynch fate today... I also agree, I could o for Fate or Deer, right now Fate though I am leaning on.. crazy... OMGUS everyone, fake claim inspiring fear then disappearing when a new wagon begins and coming back and hopping on it!

Can I get a vote count please?.

I would like a full claim from Deer also, I don't buy his or Fates claims one bit.

[jasonT1981]

Once again, sorry for my absence... I had net problems and my net dropped to less than 28k connection.

[jasonT1981]

Sorry fate... your right.. I got you and Deer confused when I said you made another claim.

I beg to differ, bomb is a fear to hammer... it will make people fearful of hammering you for the reason they will be taken out too... yes, I do believe it exposed scum deer. But this could be because he didnt want to hammer his scum partner and exposed you both as scum

ok

1) unlynchable scum... I really have never seen it, nor do I think there is such a thing... so yes, IF he is unlynchable and someone hammers and he doesnt die.. well that pretty much confirms him town

2) I dont see how you are confirmed town if Deer flips scum.. just because he beleived bomb claim... you can still be scum... and he didnt want to hammer scum partner and be down 2 scum

3) Fate and his sweet, sweet abilities? Vig shoots Deer? we dont know if there is a vig!... Sweet sweet abilities I think is an appeal to emotion so we don't lynch you... its like saying 'you cant lynch me... I have X power' a proven scum tatic in my experience

[jasonT1981]

expose you both as scum, and have the scum team down 2 people with the hammer I meant to say...

[jasonT1981]

No, I dont beleive you are the bomb... But I can see it being used as an excuse not to hammer. Especially by scum.. And this does make me see Deer as scum

but you said earlier on it is only one of your abilities the bomb right? are you admitting to lying about that bit? thats the bit that gets me... you saying earlier it was one of your abilities.... If this is true, Deer being a scum partner would NOT want to hammer (which he didnt want to anyway) and that still connects you both IF you were telling the truth.

I beg to differ... Bomb, regardless of true or not is a an appeal to fear... Hammer me and you go boom! thats appeal to fear I beleive.

Anyway, its after 1am so I am heading off to bed.

But one last thing, I do agree that you ARE seeing scum with every post.. given how many people you have OMGUS today. Nearly Anyone who has suspected you has been voted or FOSed by you.

[jasonT1981]

Urgh, cant sleep.

but to answer your question, VP...I'm not sure of the role, but I believe there is a role were someone can choose someone to restrict what they can do... in essence gagging them.. looking back over Jebus's postings in ISO the only time he has actually posted any words is to vote... and that fits in with the role I am thinking about... however, I have never heard of it done on day 1.

Actually, looking it up its called Mafia silancer and this is the discription

* Mafia Team Variant Roles—"Silencer", "Yakuza", etc.

The "Silencer" can 'silence' anyone each day (except whoever was silenced yesterday). The silenced individual wakes in the morning and is immediately instructed not to talk until the end of the day (They may vote and be executed though). The Silencer does not participate in the mafia killing, and the mafia do not know who their silencer is, but he is typically aligned with them and knows their identities. The Yakuza is a regular mafia player with an extra power: they may sacrifice themselves from the second night (during the night) and choose an innocent to join the mafia team.[41]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_%28party_game%29

This fits perfectly as to what is going on with Jebus, hence I believe he may have been gagged.

[jasonT1981]

What's the scum motivation for claiming bomb again?

To scare people away from hammering you....which is what happened actually. I'm pretty sure I've already said this. I've seen it before as well, so you're not even original if your'e scum.

THIS is exactly what I meant by fear claim from Fate.

[jasonT1981]

I've seen the Yakuza on EM, but without the silencing.

They are two seperate roles. Wiki just listed them together as Variant Roles, if you look at the link... it lists all same types of roles together.

[jasonT1981]

I dont buy that scum would have even a one shot unlynchable. Its day one and we have 3 claims already. Sorry for the short post, Im a little tired.

A scum unlynchable, even a one shot completly of defeats the purpose of mafiascum games though, were the town goal is to lynch scum... which is why I am not buying Deers claim.

[jasonT1981]

you just happened to 'leave out' the best part... having a guilty, and voting the 'guilty'??



*cough*Bullshit*cough*

you seriously expect a claim? hah!

If you had a guilty... you would have in no way 'forgotten' or 'left out' that fact you had the guilty... and also took you SEVEN posts on day 2 to come out with that?

I think that is something you would want to share

right away

all this, coming from the guy who lied about his role on day 1?

Anyway, I am kinda not buying the Sotty and VP thing, a lot of WIFOM and it did seem VPs grudge against Sotty was for past games. Only way VP would have known is if he had a night 0 head start and got extremly lucky with Sotty.

[jasonT1981]

Locke your post is missing a: "Hey that's cool that Jason is scum."

and next post...

Vote: Jason

LOL

[jasonT1981]

I just found that funny, Sotty.

[jasonT1981]

Ok, Sotty who is scum?

Fate from yesterdays play... and given the fact Deer was telling the Truth makes things even more bad for Fate in my eyes.

Sens and Camn seem to be connected, the way Sens is shouting at ANYONE who even looks at Camn is suspicious to me... I still think it could be an attempt at buddying. Camn made a small post about how Sens is town also... I see a connection there still.

I said that on day 1. I still feel the same.

[jasonT1981]

Alright, I am Detective Thomas "Herc" Hauk and I am an Analyst who is working under working under Lieutenant Cedric Daniels.

I can send the name of one person to the mod of who's DNA I want to try and match with the dead body. I will simply get back a sucessful match, or unsucessful match depending on if I choose the person who made the kill or not.

My partner and I, Jimmy McNaulty are renowned for clearing bodies after a murder. I guess this is why I am able to send a name to forensics each night to get a DNA match result. And usually follow it up each night with taking a drink or two either at the bar, or down by the tracks.

I have picked up the case that looks related to that Barksdale investigation, and I am working the crime scene and running down leads.

[jasonT1981]

And since when did fate go from being one of the scummiest in day 1... to leadin the charge on day 2?

what better way to try and make himself look better in the eyes of the town I guess, as he knew heat would be on him. Come out and claim a guilty.... Perfect eh?

[jasonT1981]

PYPIII?

And I realize most people get it. But there's idiots that are calling us Scum (jason) or wasting a game-winning investigation on us (ani).

And sorry, just because

YOU

say Camn is town, and you are town... does

NOT

make that so! I fail to see why you are taking this so personal with the name calling.

You really expect EVERYONE to take it and face value?

Sorry, Just because you say you and he are town.. does NOT make it so. Not in my eyes anyway, Sens

[jasonT1981]

Well, I do not know about the show as I am only a few episodes into season 1. I have tried to paraphrase my Role PM as best I can without actually quoting it.

[jasonT1981]

I guess are roles aint linked in ame and flavor is from the show? McNulty is Bunks partner in the show I beleive

[jasonT1981]

Because there was no body in night 1 to investigate? the body only turned up on start of day 2?

I cant investiate what is not there... can I?

[jasonT1981]

Jason.. I hate to ruin the show for you, but Herc turns out to be dirty.

FFS... The next show you are starting to enjoy, I will ruin it for you grrrr

Kristin Shepard shot JR......There, now we are even!

[jasonT1981]

No, my partner is strictly role flavor tied to the show I believe

[jasonT1981]

Mod confirmed masons? well, unfortinutly that does not 'confirm' you both as town to the rest of us. You could just be screwing around with the town... there is no substance to your claim either.

that doesnt make me look silly, that just makes you put out a random claim with nothing actually to back it up apart from your say so...

[jasonT1981]

Im sorry... but you are far from confirmed.

Just because

you

say so... does NOT make you confirmed...far from it in fact I am glad at least Ani sees sense in this.

Funny, how 3 of the people I had suspicions on in day 1, are the 3 main ones going after me (Fate, Camn and Sens)

Hell, Fate was scummy as hell day 1... now has a 'guilty' on someone who pushed at him yesterday still after the Deer wagon was going

Funny how he 'forgot' to mention it in his posts before hand as well as his main one

fuinny how he managed to 'forget' to vote the person he had a guilty on in his main post.

Funny how he was the one full of BS with his claim etc on day 1...

noticing a patern anyone?

vote: Fate

[jasonT1981]

I can not explain the inconcistoncies, Camn... that is what was written in my Role PM. And your right Camn, I cant see the confirmed... sorry. I don't buy peoples word just at their say so and buddying up calling each other town... that in no way makes it confirmed.

[jasonT1981]

no, I had no mention of Kimi Greggs, Camn.

Camnm, what do you think of my points against Fate?

[jasonT1981]

Camn and I both think Fate is likely Town. Though I'm more annoyed than she is about the Bomb gambit.

REALLY????

REALLY???

REALLY???

I know that. I just really doubt that Fate is telling the truth. It's such a dumb claim as town.. Because it would only stop scum from hammering.

And I don't really think Fate is dumb, thus he must be scum.

your right about ani. I wasn't thinking.

Fate should self hammer.

If he is town, he screwed up pretty badly... And any scum will never hammer him.

Luckily he is scum.

Open question: am I crazy? Or is a townie claiming supersaint a terrible idea?

ha ha. Just Iso'd Jebus.

UNVOTE

now.. hmm..
..

VOTE: FATE

Fate.. I am agreeing with everything you have said recently...
However, your play here is wildly different than your play in our short, recently abandoned game.. where you were town?

Why is it different? Could it be that your alignment is different? Is it the lack of Sociopath? Please explain.

You aswered this earlier by saying "vvvvvvvvvv"
I dont understand that answer, and I would like a real one..

For what its worth,

I'm not bothering to read anything ScumFate says

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Camn, don't play around with Fate's games. On the small chance he's telling the truth

, we make someone who's not obvTown hammer him.

Because everyone of those posts seems to suggest the opposite of what you just said... infact YOU even declared him scum... scumfate was it?

[jasonT1981]

Alright upon seeing raiders post, 2 people can testify to Camn... I concede defeat on that one....

Sens, your play is what got me... someone screaming the weay you did at anyone who questioned Camn... you can understand why there is suspicion there, right? you could have been a lot more subtile... but you busted open two more roles for scum to see.

[jasonT1981]

Sorry, Camn... I did miss that.

Its entirely possible both claims are true, yes.... Given Anis investigation on Camn.. and the fact it has been able to be backed up by Raider make me believe it is true.

Hell, at one point we all thought Fates bomb claim was true...

[jasonT1981]

Yes, really.

And raider didn't confirm shit. But nice try, trying to stop attacking the most confirmed players in the game, for bullshit reasons. You're Scum.

the fact he can back Ani in a Camn investigation is not a BS reason... I conceded I was wrong based upon that new evidence from Raider. At least the way I see it I was wrong.

[jasonT1981]

I think sometimes your blinded in your love affair with Camn, Sens LOL

[jasonT1981]

I... really do not know what to say to that, Camn.

I have no defence other than I guess not all roles are exactly like that in the show, and are just flavor in the game.

[jasonT1981]

No, that is what I got from the Mod.

[jasonT1981]

I... don't have partners.

[jasonT1981]

That is just flavor in my role I believe about who the character is in the show... I have no actual in game connection with any other player.

[jasonT1981]

I want to say sorry to my team... I fucked up on the claim mixing 2 claims up.

still, goos win town.. grrrr