Mini 978 - The Wire Mafia - Game Over!

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I confirm that I have read and understood my role PM.

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Stringer Bell is my favourite non-Omar character. Also my favourite non-non-Omar character.

I would probably like Bubbles if he didn't mumble so much that I couldn't hear a word he ever says.

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Vote: Jason

- voting against the Grammar Police is a no.

Um. Locke Lamora, how serious are ya? I'm wondering whether you actually think that's a scum tactic by VP Baltar.

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Yo, CDB, say something interesting so I don't have to kill you.

Um, Elvis Presley once worked for Frank Sinatra's trucking company?

oh you mean about mafia.

Well, I actually kind of like the Deer votes in a cute sort of way, but I'm not really interested in pushing it any further. It doesn't seem like a genuine slip.

Unvote, Vote: Fate

for post 78, by the way.

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It's more that you're following VPB's vague meta.

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Can't really be arsed to read a bunch of other games right now, so if meta is all you have to go on, I'm not interested. Let's all vote for Fate instead.

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ani, points for trying, but with Deer I'm pretty sure you're seeing things that aren't there. C'mon, vote Fate instead.

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Ugh, these last couple of pages were not what I wanted to see after getting next to no sleep last night. Pretty painful reading.

Anyway, pretty sure Fate needs moar votes.

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Deer - why haven't you moved your vote somewhere else now that you've unvoted ani?

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I don't suppose I'll have any luck asking Jebus to post some actual words that aren't required by the mod...

(Cynical CDB is cynical.)

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No worries, Fate, I'll distance for you!

LYNCH THE SCUMBAG

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Hey, awesome, we caught Fate's buddy!

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Sorry, been travelling.

I don't like ani's 314.

Re: Fate hammer and Deer: eh, I dunno, I can see Deer as stubborn town, but the way he's approached this kind of means we really have to get him to hammer, because it is exactly how scum would want to play this too.

LL - if you want Fate to be hammered, why are you no longer voting for Fate?

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Hey, having an unexpectedly busy day, I may not be able to post today, but I will do as soon as I am able. Still pro-Fate lynch.

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Hey guys, I'm a little bit back having not been able to post for an entire game day.

I'm reading over raider, Locke and Jebus as I think our scum are almost certainly from that group now.

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Trying to remember where I was in this game. I have to apologise, the World Cup is eating up a huge amount of my free time.

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Um, WTF Fate? You want me dead because, when I have limited time to devote to mafia, I make sure that above all else I don't abandon the newbies to whom I have a serious responsibility? Aside from the fact that that completely breaks all the sitewide rules about not mentioning ongoing games, you're basically suggesting that I'm faking limited availability to avoid contributing to this game. I'm not having that slight against my character. If you click the link in my signature you'll see that I've been blogging every day about every match of the World Cup (because that's something that's important to me), which means six hours of football per day plus longer to write, then spending time with my poor girlfriend who graciously lets me piss away every day on the World Cup. This all adds up to me not having very much time for mafia at the moment (that should change in a few days when the group stages are over and matches become less frequent), and so my activity is reduced. And so when asking myself "what game needs my attention the most", the answer is of course the newbie game where I have a responsibility as an IC not to disappear at all.

I really, really want to OMGUS you right now for such blatant asshattery, but you're probably not scum. The Jebus lynch makes the most sense at the moment - the stuff with the post restriction today about it being loosened I don't really think I buy.

Mod:

Vote Count?

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Here's whassup - I'm Omar Little and I used to be a vig. My personal code forbids me from killing anyone who isn't in the drug trade. I got angry with Fate yesterday and decided I wanted to kill him regardless of whether I was at all sure he was scum. That was my first kill this game and it was also my last. As explained to me in my role PM, when I killed a civilian (Freamon) I lost any patience the Major Crimes Unit had for my antics and agreed to do it their way.

I'm rereading Deer.

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Here's whassup - I'm Omar Little and I used to be a vig. My personal code forbids me from killing anyone who isn't in the drug trade. I got angry with Fate yesterday and decided I wanted to kill him regardless of whether I was at all sure he was scum. That was my first kill this game and it was also my last. As explained to me in my role PM, when I killed a civilian (Freamon) I lost any patience the Major Crimes Unit had for my antics and agreed to do it their way.

I'm rereading Deer.

Then how does that explain only one night kill? Someone has been killing each night and if you claim one then scum didnt kill anyone night 3?

Unless someone has a nonkillable night time ability I call BS.

That's remarkably closed-minded of you. My guess is that scum also killed Fate.

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Why did you pick Fate to kill?

As I said, he made me angry yesterday. I didn't feel like playing with him any longer.

Did you know that if you killed a good guy you would lose vig powers, cdb?

Yes. Part of my flavour is that I'm friendly with the cops at the Major Crimes Unit and they've let me be as long as I don't touch civilians. If I broke that code I knew I had to stop killing and do things their way.

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You know it's halftime when CDB is posting in Mafia games...

Fair cop.

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I can only sigh and contemplate what might have been.

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You know the difference between me and you? I bleed red and you bleed green. I look at you these days, String, you know what I see? I see a man without a country. Not hard enough for this right here and maybe, just maybe, not smart enough for them out there.

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Thanks MacavityLock for a great game. As I said, I can only wonder how this would have turned out if it wasn't for Jason's mistake blowing two of our safeclaims in one shot. (No hard feelings, Jason, could have happened to anyone.)

http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/CAm2jviwi5YJm <- Barksdale QT.

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I definitely got the feeling quite early on that the town was quite formidable, though I didn't do any serious thinking about how many Investigators would equate to a sane Cop. Nailing the snitch N1 was a massive coup. I was actually considering adding to my fakeclaim that as part of my agreement to "do things the cops' way", Omar would become a second snitch.

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Jebus's faked post restriction was also surprising. The Wire theme does not lend itself to that kind of meta-game play, in my opinion, and I was wondering why he did it.

When I realised he was seriously faking a PR rather than just pissing about for his first post or two, I had a bit of a WTF moment thinking the same thing. Couldn't really do anything about it at that stage, though, so I just decided to roll with it.

Over night 1, the maf requested additional flavor for Bunk, Herc, and Omar, which was provided in their QT. They had a whole thing planned with Jebus being drunk Bunk with the post restriction, CDB being a potential vig with Omar, and jason being an Investigator as Herc. But the most important part of that night was Fate's Wiretap investigation on jason, a clear guilty. When confronted with it on Day 2, jason

mangled the flavors for Bunk and Herc

, thus torpedo-ing two of the maf fake claims in one post. My jaw dropped.

Not quite true, we were going with Jebus as Herc, who was too bored and uninterested to post actual words instead of images, and Jason was going to be Bunk, who could do something or other with forensics on the dead bodies, with Bunk being Homicide rather than Major Crimes. In retrospect I'm not certain the whole Bunk as forensic investigator thing was great so it's probably not a disaster that we lost that claim, but IMO when Jason accidentally claimed Herc's name on top of Bunk's role I think we lost the most plausible explanation for his post restriction. (Also, we did not discuss his loosening of the PR. I would have told him not to do it if he'd brought it up at night. The only way to follow through on setting the fake PR up was to keep going with it to the end.)

At this point, the maf clearly was scrambling. I think they missed an opportunity. Had they requested some flavor for McNulty, I think their "drunken post restriction" plan for Jebus might have still worked. Sadly, it seems they completely forgot about their McNulty fake claim. When the time came for Jebus to claim on Day 3, he basically gave up.

As a fan of the show I couldn't see McNulty as just being a drunk in this game, having always thought of Bunk as having the biggest "drunk moments" on the show. I didn't forget about him but I couldn't think of a way to make it sound right in my head. You're probably right, though, given Jason's claimfail, that was probably what Jebus should have gone for.

I can kind of say the same thing for CDB. I don't think a vig claim is all that useful at that stage of the game, and I would have probably used the McNulty fake claim to kind of hide away as a simple Investigator. There was no way Omar was going to survive to the end.

I thought Omar was more likely to buy me one more night than McNulty - if I claimed McNulty as Investigator I saw no reason why I wasn't going to get lynched before raider, Locke or Deer. Vig just seemed like the only plausible role to claim for Omar. In fairness I had pretty much lost all hope by that stage anyway.

So, in the end, the maf was decimated, and to be honest, I kind of think they deserved it :}

Agreed. I thought our Day 1 was decent (bar Jebus' unnecessary post restriction that he lumbered all of us with) and Night 1 was obviously great, but as soon as Day 2 came around and, crucially, Jason's claimfail, we reacted poorly and were always on the back foot. Town did a good job of narrowing down the people they could basically ignore for lynches.

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I'd like to ask Jebus if he was thinking seriously about how to win the game when he made up that post restriction or if he just couldn't be arsed to play properly on Day 1 and ended up carrying it on for too long to ever drop it?

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Also I picked my rolecop really badly. Sens and camn were such obv-masons.

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OWNED SCUM OWNED

Oh, and I'd like to apologise to you for killing you last night. I was kinda annoyed at you the day before (that whole exchange was nothing to do with my being scum or not) but not *that* much. I just decided that it would make a good reason for me to kill you as pro-town Omar-vig. Worked on Sens, at least.

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For little to no reason I breadcrumbed "Omar" in my first post after the start of Day 1 (last letter of each sentence). Doesn't really make sense thinking back on it seeing as there were obviously going to be safe claims in this game, but I kinda enjoyed doing it. =P

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I still have no idea what show is about or even what channel it is on so I can't comment on that
<_<

You should really check it out on DVD. It's pretty cheap to get hold of now. Used to be on HBO. It's pretty much the best TV show of all time.

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Don't you remember when he drove into that overpass stanchion, backed up away from it, tried to line up the turn, and drove into it

again

? And then had sex with the diner waitress?

Haha, yes! That was awesome. Point taken. =)