Harry Potter Mafia - Over!

[rajrhcpfreak]

/confirm i guess.
looks like this game should be fun with a bunch of people ive never played with.
there is a few that i know ive made mad in past games

[rajrhcpfreak]

humm farside tempting me with the fact that i dont random vote or MMM pissing off the fanboys.

Vote: Mysterious Mystery Man

might as weel vote for someone that deserves it.

[rajrhcpfreak]

since its my birthday right now i am going to post that im going to try to be plastered for the rest of the day. ill get back to you all on friday. thnx bye. yep

[rajrhcpfreak]

i dont find Sudo_Nym that scummy.
farside is of course town.

im still happy with my MMM vote. it sounds way to early to start caling this game a bastard mod game. why bring it up? are you trying to breadcrumb that you are voldemort? and make people beleive you are town? the only reason why i will start listening to talks of bastard modding is if we have a claim that that could be bastard modding.

also his egging the fanboys on did nothing. he got no info out of the act. so once again he wasnt helpful.

@kmd: he seams protown especially with this comment
"Reap's long post looks like a lame attempt at "content"."

so that brings me to Reap, i could go with a bandwagon on him. seams like ther is lot of atempt at content but nothing really there.

everyone else is kind of a null tell.

so to end my comments.
MMM should be bandwagons to claim since hes dying to hint that there is bastard modding. then we can decide is hes right or not and we will have some time before deadline.

[rajrhcpfreak]

unvote

i guess i have to since MMM is gone. i need to think over my next vote.

[rajrhcpfreak]

vote: ReaperCharlie

scum should die.

[rajrhcpfreak]

Scum:
Reap
Mac

agreed lets move this on and get a claim.

[rajrhcpfreak]

just like you caught scum in the last game we were in together?

i thought that you would have caught on to the way i play.
no need to bandwagon me and out a protown role, lets continue the wagon on Reaper who is by far the scummiest person.

oh and kmd, you might want to move sudo down there with reaper with him waiting for sudo to vote and give him motmentum.

its pro town for someone to push for a claim when we only have 7 days before the deadline. a week is still enough time to get 2-3 more votes. then you claim. and if you have a decent claim we can rethink killing you. plently of time to play but i dont want a quick lynch because we are running out of time. scum would want the lynch to be at the last min and/or without a claim.

ps. i know its an oxymoron for me to claiming about the activity. but for a 16 player game we have been very slow on content and talking so i really think a claim and 7 days before will be good for discussion and activity.

pss. it also looks like reaper is looking for farside to bless my wagon as good but im pretty sure the sudo's tag team with him should deter her some.

@farside. sorry about not being a little lurkerish and flaky, but im here and i back into the game. the MMM replacement really screwed up my thinking. making it hard to go in the right direction.

[rajrhcpfreak]

Rajkdjsfhdjsakg, isn't that scummier on Reap's part than Sudo's? How can you blame Sudo for Reap following him?

your right.
after he flips scum i guess he should move down.

his wagon clearly has the most momentum and I think it's nearly a forgone conclusion that he ends up being pushed to a claim today, so may as well get it out of the way now so we can either TURBOLYNCH or find someone better to lynch.

thats why i made my comments. just pointing it out to remind people that im not the only one.

@Raj: Your last post is the best you have so far and yet I see no scum hunting or reasoning in your post.

yeah by the time i came back to this thread to find a new person to replace MMM on my scumdar the only one i could find is Reaper. the rest is just average especially because of the lurkers (i know im one of them). so i basicly outlined my views so everyone knows where i stand and support the case that kmd already posted since there isnt much more.

you seem pretty eager to stop any potential wagon on you in its tracks. which I don't think is inherently scummy when coming from town, but the way you are saying it is... off.
the soft claim does not help a bit either. you sound like nervous scum here.

why should a townsperson allow a wagon pile up on themselves? knowingly letting people vote for you and starting a bangwagon just wastes time and and sidetracks the town. but you even admit that this is not inherently scummy. nervous scum or powerrole wanting to avoid being screwed twice in one week.

Do you not agree that I have an excellent reason to unvote FakeGod? Do you not agree that I have an excellent reason for voting you?

isnt the reason your voting FakeGod is because hes lurking/not participating? but as soon as i participate i get a OMGUS vote.

its pro town for someone to push for a claim when we only have 7 days before the deadline. a week is still enough time to get 2-3 more votes... scum would want the lynch to be at the last min and/or without a claim.

This is all a matter of opinion, which can be skewed any way you want to make yourself seem pro-town.

if you want to skew it your way im atleast going to skew it my way.[/quote]

ps. i know its an oxymoron for me to claiming about the activity. but for a 16 player game we have been very slow on content and talking so i really think a claim and 7 days before will be good for discussion and activity.

oooorrrrr, it could easily out a town pr, which obviously is not pro-town, no matter HOW you spin it. it gives scum an advantage in knowing who to pick off.
not saying i am a town pr, but ... it's your

motives

behind trying to get a claim that interest me.

so you think we shouldnt bandwagon the scummist person?
if that person is scummy they deserve votes and if they have to claim they need to claim. its their own fault by playing horrible. when you are a pro town player especially a power role it is their responsibility to play to the best of their ability.
it doesnt matter if it outs a power role or not, because we cant be thinking that we cant vote for [insert sn] because they might be a cop, but they are not acting very pro town.
so if we bandwagon someone does that mean we have to lynch them after they claim so the scum wont have any information?

btw: it almost sounds like you are soft claiming here too, same thing you excuse me of.

ok first, why would I be looking for farside's approval?

and second, I don't see how you get that my vote for you is looking for farside's approval. IF i was looking for farside's approval, wouldn't I vote for sudo instead of agreeing with him on a vote? after all, that's the case she's been championing for the last ... oh, TEN or so pages.

because people respect her and havnt said that shes scummy. so if you convince her more undecided townspeople might look at your views and favorably too.

and second, not if sudo is your partner.

[rajrhcpfreak]

@reap

this is how i saw it go down.

well farside has already been after sudo.
270, after i voted for you you started associating him and me together and trying to get farside to associate eachother as both scum. and then the possibility that we can be different factions.
275, she responds that there is a possibility and refuses to budge from her current vote on sudo.

but after this sudo makes another vote and youve planted the seed in farside's head. and hopefully follow suit. and you go ahead with your vote.

[rajrhcpfreak]

Now can we proceed with the bandwagon-to-claim on me? It seems like that's all you're interested in anyway.

i want to bandwagon to claim everyone i think is scummy. i think thats the purpose of the game.
if you throughly convince me, which you havnt yet. then i will gladly remove my vote and vote someone else. but since we are so far into the game and each comment just makes me distrust you even more, i think the only thing that will make me flip would be a good claim.

hence why i wanted to do it earlier because we are looking at the weekend now and alot of people still arnt posting.


you keep saying that me wanting you to claim is bad because it could out a power role. well outing a power role is a million times better than mislynching a power role.

and the longer you wait the scummier you look because we will have to make a quick and haste discision if we beleive you. and that makes mis lynching even more likely.

[rajrhcpfreak]

i buy the snape claim.

it sounded like Reap made a soft claim there. and if he actually wants to role claim his name i will remove my vote.

you might as well because you know the mafia will figure it out, stupid lazy townies wont bother to look for it.

[rajrhcpfreak]

actualy no.

forget that previous post.

i was all for the RC lynch and bandwagon but my train of thought was stupid, sudo and RC are not connected. and if RC is who i think he is then no need to waste anytime on him coming back later calling me stupid and refusing and making us go til tuesday before he really claims.

sudo doesnt help with the RC lynch he just says things but never backing it up. ultimatly not getting any blood on his hands for this lynch. even with RC's impending claim and lynch at the deadline he throws his vote to support RC against me. plus his posts look wordy but arnt full of any fresh ideas.

unvote
vote: Sudo

im really suprised i just did that.

[rajrhcpfreak]

i had a great post yesterday but my internets destroyed it and im very upset now. but lets recap some stuff.

@ dram: You said that already. And what I am saying is, if you really posted that before reading my post, you:

a) assumed that one kill wasn't enough (which a townie would have no way of knowing right off the bat)
b) assumed the kill wasn't a Death Eater kill, according to flavor (which a townie probably wouldn't know, since there ARE curses like Sectumsempra)
c) made the jump straight to doc, without even any conjecture on whether there was a third-party or not (SK or otherwise)

a) Because mafias don't kill now? Never heard that BS
b) Sectumsempra is a clean slash, nothing to do with the kill's flavour. There is NO spell in the whole HP cannon that fits afaik =_=
c) Kmd summed up pretty well the logical sources for the kill. It COULD have been a roleblocker too blocking the kill. Do you feel happy now?

ok ill put my two sense in here. i assumed A&B also. C should only be assumed in your head because there are many possibilities that could cause the outcome that we have now.

ooba dying is good and bad. its great that he died but as a traitor it doesnt give us much info and not to mention scum could have caused it and its allowing them to have a fakeclaim lined up.

once again i want to apoligize to the twon and RC. RC is town 100% and his play is much better.

i want to say that the constant spewing of WIFOM possibilities is making me very uneasy and i would think that holding off is best.

the patronus claim is very odd but basing it on just that might be jumping the gun.

more to come, but i wanted to get that off my chest and let you all know that im still here and playing.

[rajrhcpfreak]

unvote
vote: Furcolow

this needed to be done.

[rajrhcpfreak]

unvote
vote: espeonage

i really dont want to do it but you all are going to do it with or with out me.
i really dont like furcolow and i really think he should be lynched.
the only reason i am going along with this is the amount of town players so convinced with this lynch.

[rajrhcpfreak]

Rajr would be a Town read if he was more active. I get a good feeling about his content but don’t like his opinion of MacLock. His disappearance Day 2 also has knocked him from the ranks of Town in my eyes.

well i got up in the RC debate and since then ive lost all focus in the game. furlow/MMM has been on my radar all game and somthing just doesnt sit right with me.
maclock... i think the only thing i said was i bought the snape claim. if i said anything else please elaborate, looking back snape would be the best safe claim ever given to the scum.

i really want to lynch furlow. fakegod rubs me the wrong way too.

[rajrhcpfreak]

vote: furcolow

ive been saying it all game. hes scum. i dont know how me and him are buddies.
now lets see if anyone joins me this time.

[rajrhcpfreak]

Nice try. lol
There's at least 2 other people voting him before you.

yes because me wanting to lynch MMM/furcolow is a new thing for me...

lets recap:

Vote: Mysterious Mystery Man

might as weel vote for someone that deserves it.

im still happy with my MMM vote. it sounds way to early to start caling this game a bastard mod game. why bring it up? are you trying to breadcrumb that you are voldemort? and make people beleive you are town? the only reason why i will start listening to talks of bastard modding is if we have a claim that that could be bastard modding.

also his egging the fanboys on did nothing. he got no info out of the act. so once again he wasnt helpful.

unvote
vote: Furcolow

this needed to be done.

i really dont like furcolow and i really think he should be lynched.

i really want to lynch furlow. fakegod rubs me the wrong way too.

vote: furcolow

ive been saying it all game. hes scum. i dont know how me and him are buddies.
now lets see if anyone joins me this time.

[rajrhcpfreak]

thank you RC for the vote of confidence.

on Andrius, i hate his claim especially with the lack of a role name, (if there was one, please point it out.)
but when you think about it why would scum claim so early when they could have ridden the fur/raj wagon til the end of the day? i see hes trying to use his position as a "confirmed town" to dirrect the town to follow his play. kinda how RC claimed dumbledore and we all backed down and repented. now thats scummy play, not nessiarily scum.
if i had the mason names i would possibly buy the claim. until i give him an

FOS

until i get his name and partner's role name. i dont think we need to know the person just yet. honestly it would clear some things if he did come out.
im trying hard to avoid OMGUS when analyizing andrius.

[rajrhcpfreak]

but when you think about it why would scum claim so early when they could have ridden the fur/raj wagon til the end of the day?

THIS is what is throwing me for a loop. Not about raj... about Andrius.

But then I think I already wondered this. Why claim when unnecessary? Just for the WIFOM it?

It doesn't make sense either as town OR as scum.

i have some nuggets of gold if you look hard enough into my posts.

andrius is babling on and on and more he refuses to accept that a mason claim is useless with out a partner, just as worse not having a name claim in a theme game. and then saying all masons are town is a crazy claim.
masons arnt what they used to be. i remember my first game where masons werent considered two town players.
im not going to go into more possiblities but i can see harry-voldermort, ron-hermine, just pointing out there couldd some bad/good connectons and other decent connections. but right now im thinking the mason claim is very weak at the moment.

[rajrhcpfreak]

so hes a stump... i havnt seen that role in a while.

vote: FakeGod

@Magna ill openly say it right now. my pm does not mention the ministry of magic at all. not really happy that all the scummy people are saying it too but its the truth.

[rajrhcpfreak]

I hate Voldemort!

thats all your getting out of me.

[rajrhcpfreak]

i feel like im useless in this game.
im find with following RC. but i think we might need a name/role claim. we are getting very close to lynch and lose.

[rajrhcpfreak]

major

fos on Espeonage

for wanting to rush.


i think that having the headmaster control the order of the claim is best.

[rajrhcpfreak]

sorry his post confirms why he was lynched in the first place.

[rajrhcpfreak]

im following partially. i hate to play the card but the new site is throwing me off. i cant see the first post on the page, the colors are making my eyes bleed (i need mafsepia).
but im trying. and i have some info that could be helpful. just waiting for my time to claim. kinda wish i was later on in the list but i can claim next when its my turn.

[rajrhcpfreak]

yep i just changed it, thanks.
but the first post thing is still needed. that would have fixed the Espeonage confusion.

[rajrhcpfreak]

i dont buy kmd's claim.

i am Draco Malfoy.
because of my parents kinda of supporting the dark lord. i can check to see if people have the "dark mark". but i agree that his views are a little extreme, so i help the town. so i am a pro-town cop.

Night One: Nobobdy Special: Couldn't Determine
Night Two: MacavityLock: Has Dark Mark (didnt trust his claim, but flavor matches here with him being a miller.)
Night Three: manho: No Dark Mark
Night Four: MagnaOfIllusion: No Result

First thing i want to know is: who has role blocked me?
Was it night 1, 4, or both?
and yeah pretty sure kmd is lying.

I dont know about Nobody. I thought it was because i was roleblocked but it was different than night 4 which sounds like a role block. NS might be the dark lord.

[rajrhcpfreak]

there is no reason to come out and claim when you have no results. two of my choices came back no result, another one was from a claimed miller, and the other was a town result.
but its hard to be a good cop when people roleblock you even when dumbledore tells the town that you are innocent.

[rajrhcpfreak]

so that means my no dark mark result is actually on RC, which means i have pretty much nothing. but after night 4 it really looks like my NS investigation result is possibly a godfather ability.

vote: Nobody Special

[rajrhcpfreak]

vote:



on my gameplay....

well in general it sucked.

but ill try to defend some of it.

I KNEW RC WAS EVIL!!
after the previous game he played with me where he played very different, and i found out that he was innocent i had a feeling that he had a different alignment. too bad i wasnt night killed after that because the town would have analyzed my going after RC in a different light. too bad i was convinced that dumbledore must have been a good character. but RC didnt have a dark mark so it really didnt matter if i had checked him or not.

honestly the godfather having that good of a fakeclaim made them nearly unstoppable. but i dont know if i would go so far as to call unbalanced.
but once we all started following the RC train we were screwed. i felt like a moron by trying to lynch RC for trying to read him from another game. so with me completely dumbfounded and the site switching i kinda started treating the game halfheartedly. which caused me to check the person i felt was scummiest, which caused me to check the miller. largely useless but it confirmed his story and that my investigation is telling the truth. the two no results messed me up, which made me believe the bus driver story.
i still felt like i was making good cop choices after that. because everyone i checked was staying alive, so i was checking scummy people that were either scum or the scum thought that they were playing bad enough to keep around.
if someone came out as a roleblocker then i was going to assume that they were scum because i had a feeling that people might have known i was the cop and i was being blocked.

only thing else i can say is good game RC, i wont let you get by with a claim like that ever again.

[rajrhcpfreak]

ok i wasnt crazy, everything that was said in the QT i was thinking.

so yeah we all played bad and RC made a gambit of a lifetime.