Mini 975 - Dirty Dirty South Mafia - game over

[Incognito]

Day 2 Death Scene

Hoopla,

Jailkeeper

, killed Day 2

Morning 2 is now over. It is now Afternoon 2.

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Earlder1 (1) <-~ Kenman
Steam-Powered Shovel (1) <-~ Ellibereth
TheButtonmen (1) <-~ Steam-Powered Shovel
*Maemuki (2) <-~ camn, SerialClergyman

Not voting (5) <-~ Maemuki, bouncy.bouncy, TheButtonmen, Earlder1, SaintKerrigan

10 alive; 6 votes will do it.

An asterisk by a player's name indicates said player would be lynched if deadline were to hit right this moment.

Day Deadline:

Monday, May 24th at 9:00 P.M. EST

[SaintKerrigan]

VOTE: KENMAN

Die, filthy lying scumbag!

Also, Hoopla? Hmm, interesting.

[SerialClergyman]

Although I think kenman is the likely liar, I don't have much of a problem with his action resolution. It sounds to me like the hide's outcome is resolved at the end of the day. I can't see how it could function any OTHER way. Otherwise he'd randomly drop dead if he targeted scum that day. Also, you'd need to have the action last for the entire afternoon lest someone kill the person he's hiding with after he's completed his action - the action still needs to be ongoing after he's used it because it's conditional on other people's action.

Does that make sense?

Was your attack on camn genuine? Do you feel he is protecting kenman?

[SaintKerrigan]

Remember, actions submitted in the morning don't resolve until morning's end, and it doesn't make sense to me that if a hider hid behind scum, the hider wouldn't die until the end of the day.

Just in case my logic is fucked up in some way, though, I might be willing to wait until tomorrow morning for Kenman to die. If he's still alive by then, there's absolutely no way he can be telling the truth. But I still don't see the logic in waiting until the end of the day to kill the hider.

I find it odd that Camn seems to be trying to keep Kenman alive for an unduly long period of time. It's also slightly odd that she wasn't the first nightkill, but it's way too early to be thinking about something like that seriously.

[Ellibereth]

Ugh.
I may have been wrong on Steamshovel...let me think...
We're NOT lynching Ken or Earl today. We don't know when his action resolves (morning end or day end).

Unvote, Vote Mae

[SaintKerrigan]

Okay, I'm willing to stay my hand from Ken and Earl until tomorrow morning. No longer than that, though.

Unvote: Kenman. Vote: Maemuki.

Back to the mysteriously quiet person.

[SaintKerrigan]

Elli, why do you think you're wrong about Steam?

[SerialClergyman]

Wow, I TOTALLY missed Hoopla's death.

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Ok, right.

Well - I'll look for breadcrumbs. Her block/protect might be important. Last time I prevented a kill as jailkeeper I did the worst breadcrumb in theh istory of the universe (Hey guys, I think Ojanen is either REALLY scum or REALLY town).

Aside from that, Hoopla was considered reasonably pro-town. She has suspicions of kenman, Mae and SPS. It incriminates SPS slightly, but not nearly enough for me to switch votes.

[camn]

My prediction?

Ken's hide resolves at the end of the day.
He dies because Earl is scum.
Hoopla is dead because Kenman's death would have confirmed Hoopla.
Earl was trying to cut us off at the pass with his fake claim.

Now that that is settled... can we lynch Maemuki?
Then we can get some real data from the ken/earl situation.

Mae.. you were going to explain how this is like our Lover's game?

[SerialClergyman]

COuldn't find any breadcrumb of her results. I think her first post about not listening to StK's whining might be some sort of jailkeeper crumb, but if it is I can't work it out exactly.

I'm pretty sure she didn't jail bouncy, kenman or earldar based on her reactions to the claims.

So yeah, can't see any obvious reason why she'd be targeted apart from her generally-held protown read and her suspicions.

Anyone seeing anything I'm not?

[SerialClergyman]

I don't understand the hoopla kill at all. It's seriously messing with my reads.

Why would mae's team kill her when she was pushing for a eps counterwagon?

[SerialClergyman]

*sps counterwagon

[camn]

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Hoopla is dead because Kenman's death would have confirmed Hoopla.

[SerialClergyman]

Oh my god I'm a retard. Carry on.

So either scum are knocking off a soon to be confirmed town, or the scum are backing kenman's story.

[Kenman]

Remember, actions submitted in the morning don't resolve until morning's end, and it doesn't make sense to me that if a hider hid behind scum, the hider wouldn't die until the end of the day.

I'm pretty sure not all actions submitted in the morning resolve AT morning's end, depending on whether it is (instantaneous, lasts throughout the day, or end of day). I mentioned that I would probably make it through morning, since i dont think it would make sense that if I submitted my hide in the afternoon, I would just randomly die.

[Steam-Powered Shovel]

Lynching Kenman today would just be bad play.

There are definitely no breadcrumbs in Hoopla's posts - I suspect she tried to act like a doctor.

[SaintKerrigan]

I think her first post about not listening to StK's whining might be some sort of jailkeeper crumb, but if it is I can't work it out exactly.

Nah, that was totally her legitimate tiff with me for something stupid I did in an ongoing game.

[Incognito]

Earlder1 and Maemuki have been prodded.

[camn]

No need to prod when we can simply lynch, people.

I shall never allow a lurker to live.

Either they are scum, or a liability. Either way they hurt the town.
More maemuki votes!

[Kenman]

vote maemuki

i guess I have to hide behind camn's logic for now.

[Ellibereth]

I'm worried about "too scummy to be scum".
BUT she wasn't THIS terrible in our past games together so...

[camn]

MAYBE too scummy to be scum.. but also too lurky to live.

Plus we need to lynch someone. Her or Buttonman?

[bouncy.bouncy]

Shouldn't we give Maemuki a chance to tell us who she wants to lynch?

[TheButtonmen]

@Mae:

Thoughts on the triangle claim?

Kenman seems to me to be obvscum; the disconnect between;

Earlder knows that I have already submitted my pm to hide behind him, which guarantees he will be found out at the start of the next day. HE HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO FAKE CLAIM.

and

roleblocker modifies actions- therefore it will apply before my action of hiding. Since my role is blocked, in essence imi temporarily a vanilla townie unable to target anything. Which explains as to why Earlder has come up with why i havent targeted anyone.

He's scum flailing around for an excuse people will buy and changing his story when people don't believe it.

[TheButtonmen]

Shouldn't we give Maemuki a chance to tell us who she wants to lynch?

Shouldn't you tell us who you want to lynch?