Mafia 112: Ridiculous Drama! (Game Over, town win!)

[Papa Zito]

I've never played SK. I dunno what the "normal" SK wincon is.

How bout you just tell me?

[SpyreX]

Its exactly how it works though - as it sits, Konowa has a 0% chance of winning. ANYTHING that raises that chance is going to be preferable to not. Only real solution? Acquiescing and playing nice nice like an SK and hoping that MAGIC HIJINKS happen that gives him a real shot is all he can hope for?

Town side? Early game we have a controlled shot and a variable under control. Now, will he betray us? Of course - when the opportunity presents itself. The trick, aye, the rub, is making sure that doesn't happen.

Scum side? Well, thats a huge "ohh shit" kinda situation. You have an SK on a leash that the leash will transfer so killing the leasholder doesn't help. Further, you've got to dodge a lynch AND a shot which is bad news bears. And... only way to fix it? Doing the town a favor and killing the SK.

Its a gamble, but its a fair one. One I like. One that makes more blood.

[Papa Zito]

Now, will he betray us? Of course - when the opportunity presents itself. The trick, aye, the rub, is making sure that doesn't happen.

This is the part I'm worried about. We get further along, have some bad luck, and suddenly we're in a position where lynching the Sk really isn't an option.

I mean, I obviously see the benefits here. But ^^^ that's what I'm worried about. That's why I want to know his wincon.

[SpyreX]

Normal wincon is killing everyone else soo.

Ohh yea, its a worry down the road. We have to, ya know, make the scums dead to make this not backfire.

But, well, if we didn't make them dead we'd lose anyways sooo

[JacobSavage]

There was no "becoming" the SK. This is an odd question, maybe I have missed something?

Meh, just a hypothesis, that it wasn't all that it was seemed

[SpyreX]

MORE IMPORTANTLY:

FATE: CAN I IMPLORE THE DEADMAKING OF UNSIGHT YES NO

(NORMALLY ID USE OUR QUICKTOPIC LABELED "SCUMS TALK HERE BECAUSE WE ARE THE SCUMS AND LOVE EACH OTHER BUT LAZY)

[Papa Zito]

Normal wincon is killing everyone else soo.

Ohh yea, its a worry down the road. We have to, ya know, make the scums dead to make this not backfire.

But, well, if we didn't make them dead we'd lose anyways sooo

Arrite, but if this backfires you're grounded.

Let's lynch the scum nao.

unvote: Konowa
vote: Unsight

[JacobSavage]

As for who holds my leash, Fate gets to be my lucky master.

So we give possible scum a Vig?

[Papa Zito]

Argh.

We can shoot that one too.

[SpyreX]

Can't shoot Jacob he's tech.

Not tech enough for a leash at the momo, but.

[JacobSavage]

@Konowa; Why does fate get your leash? and It was just a interest of mine

[JacobSavage]

Whaa I have already said that!

[InflatablePie]

*sigh* Guess we're not lynching the SK after all. At least there's one scum down, so we might be able to take a risk here. I think we can afford to let Konowa shoot once or twice under our guidance. After that, the risk might be too high. I suppose we leave him alive for now, although I'd prefer either everyone voting on who gets shot OR someone more likely town getting Konowa's leash, such as Jacob.

Unvote
Vote: MehPlusRawr

Let's get this wagon going, folks.

[Papa Zito]

If yesterday's Screaming Death Clan weren't so blindingly obvtown I'd agree, but I have no issues leaving the SK in Fate's hands. (lol?)

Also that prevents possible nighttime shenanigans.

[SpyreX]

That is the best name ever Zito. I am a proud member of the Screaming Death Clan.

Additionally everything about 962 gives me that itch in the bad, bad way.

[SIR CYANIDE]

I'm not really in favor of letting the SK live, if we are going to do that anyway (which I think we are regardless of my opinion) may I suggest we do this for one night only?

[Jag Johan]

I'm fine with FATE holding the leash. He is one of the many active players I trust.

Vote: Unsight

My other alternative are MEHPLUSRAWR, Chronopie and Mae (if he still are in the game).

Unsight could tell us why he attacks FATE and SpyreX.

[InflatablePie]

Additionally everything about 962 gives me that itch in the bad, bad way.

You could elaborate, y'know.

[SpyreX]

There is a time for everything, and a season for all things.

Its not lynchin Pie season.

Yet.

[Papa Zito]

I had Warcraft flashbacks when I typed it. heh

I'm not really in favor of letting the SK live, if we are going to do that anyway (which I think we are regardless of my opinion) may I suggest we do this for one night only?

Why the hell would he cooperate for just one night?

If we're going to do this, let's do it whole-hog, yaknow?

My other alternative are MEHPLUSRAWR, Chronopie and Mae (if he still are in the game).

If I were a leashed SK, I'd shoot Meh.

Those others are ok too.

(target-rich environment, this)

[SpyreX]

That last line is part of the damn reason why I need this SK. Alive. Fettered. Spilling sweet, sweet blood.

[SIR CYANIDE]

Why the hell would he cooperate for just one night?

Why would he cooperate anyway? Now that we found him, the odds of reaching his wincon approaches zero. Worst case scenario: we end in a happily ever after after someone messes up and scum gets a hold on the SK or whatever.

Because his chance of winning is now zero (or at least will be with me in the game, because I'm going to make sure stupid people in this game won't mess up) it does not matter that much what he does by night so he'll probably shoot someone randomly out of which he gets the most gratification.

If you think that you can put him on a leash so it benefits your wincon then by all means try it, but I'm very much against it.

Vote: Konowa

[Konowa]

If you think that you can put him on a leash so it benefits your wincon then by all means try it, but I'm very much against it.

Who do you think is doing this?

[Shrinehme]

Using Konawa's kills for Town is good strategy to me.

I'm really not feeling scum vibes from Unsight, though.

I'd like to go with MehPlusRawr or Chrono. I don't explicitly care which is lynched first/lynched day 3/shot overnight/whatever.

[Konowa]

I feel like such a hooker right now.....

That -would- be a cool role though.
*notes to self*