forgat the flaming torch, you need a bloody2. What's your favorite implement when cornering a vampire, werewolf or science abomination - pitchfork or flaming torch?
but I've played with Yos once or twice I believe. He usually dies pretty quickly though
I know how to unvote. But votes create pressure, and not using that pressure is a waste of the only game mechanic the town can use to their advantage. People often speak and post very differently when there are a few votes on them than they do when they feel they are not under close scrutiny. I like to have my vote on someone whenever possible.
I'm pretty sure EB (our mod) is smart enough to give the flavour roles no connection to their alignment roleThis is very true. It's also dangerous even if the particular name is not a giveaway, because it might lead to others nameclaiming when they DO have more obvious flavor connections.
For example, if Darox comes out and says "Hey guys I'm the Innkeeper" no one really knows what that means, but if it causes Player B to then say "Yeah, I'm the Vampire Hunter" or "I'm the Holy Water Salesman" or something it's a lot worse in terms of bullseyes for the nightkill.
First thing, Slippery slope arguement is a genuine fallacy and it is here in the debated post. Just because one player make a claim doesn't mean that everyone will start claim their flavour role. Also you're being speculative with the role names, we can't know if the mod wouldv'e titled roles "vampire hunter" or with simpler, less obvious titles like "nobleman" or "fisher"JoshTheStampede wrote:I explained the 1st one several times. The rest of them I don't actually know what you're talking about. I'm sorry I didn't "explain there be no other cases", whatever that means.SpyreX wrote:You explained keeping a vote on someone you don't think is scummy?
You explained there be no other cases?
You explained why you would ASK for scumhunting to get done (see above)?
You've explained how this:
Isn't a slippery slope?For example, if Darox comes out and says "Hey guys I'm the Innkeeper" no one really knows what that means, but if it causes Player B to then say "Yeah, I'm the Vampire Hunter" or "I'm the Holy Water Salesman" or something it's a lot worse in terms of bullseyes for the nightkill.
I'm asking for scumhunting to get done as opposed to continuing this useless derail, and I still don't understand how you think my "slippery slope" argument makes me scum. I think you just like to yell "slippery slope" as if it proves your point, which, again, I still am not clear on what your point even is.
Do you think I'm scum because I tried to prevent a possible claim? Even if you are certain no claim was coming, why would scum try to prevent claiming at all? Does that make any sense to you at all?
I am now officially done arguing with you about this completely ludicrous waste of everyone's time. Feel free to get in the last word if you want. Feel free to post the same things again and see if anyone else will join you on the absurd wagon. Also feel free to make any real cases you want, but I'm just not going to feed the troll about this one anymore.
My vote is on cruelty for reasons I have explained. I think SpyreX is just an insane townie who has tunneled onto me for reasons beyond my comprehension, but with every post he makes I question whether anyone could really be as deluded as he sounds. For now though, I don't think he's scum.
I would really, really like to hear from anyone else in this game about pretty much anything that doesn't involve crazy ranting from SpyreX or the words "slippery slope" or "roleclaim". Posts that don't sound like they were run through Babelfish a few times would be a plus, too.
it was kinda what I was trying point out, yeah I could've been more tactful with it.AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF THING THAT NO ONE SHOULD BE SAYING.
This kind of "hay but if there's a power role x then we don't know if the mod would give it a name like y" is EXACTLY the kind of comment I was trying to stop anyone from saying, because some people obviously *do* know their own role name and how it ties into their own role, and some people don't know what kind of role name the mod'd give to power roles, and we obviously don't want the scum to know which is which. And, of course, besides that, the more we talk about this, the easier it is for scum to fake claims later.
no I'm saying we can't really make assumptions based off titled roles, it equal WIFOMMagnaofIllusion wrote:Interesting commentary. Are you suggesting that perhaps an Innkeeper might be a Mafian type involved in waylaying Townies? And why not put forth the assumption that EB might have crafted safe-claims instead?easjo wrote:I'm pretty sure EB (our mod) is smart enough to give the flavour roles no connection to their alignment role
how did you reach this conclusion?Your softclaim of VT is noted.cruelty wrote:
I'm embracing the ability to throw my vote around in this game. It's liberating.
I really don't know, nobody is leading the scum race for me right now.All your posts have been random comments (not game related) or setup speculation. Who do you think is scum?
thank you for clarifyingConclusion? It was a testing statement. I wanted to see Cruelty’s reaction, and the one given I found reasonable for someone making an offhand statement.
The logical path to follow based on his assessment of “being able to sling his vote around” is that he isn’t a power role and not scum. Both types of players who want, generally, to not raise any more suspicion than necessary in scumhunting (or leading in the case of Mafia). A VT has no important night powers to lose and thus can be more free with Vote / Analysis / Accusations. Of course given everything EB has said about the game and its subtext this isn’t anything but a WIFOM exercise. Which is why it was a reaction exercise and not a statement I believe 100% to be fact.
I've actually been in a game where this cropped up, people tried to correct the GM saying that a player should be dead by now.Never assume a lynch or daykill is true until the mod acts on or purposely ignores it, even if you're the one doing the actions.
JoshTheStampede- I haven't really taken to like from the startYou have to give us something to go on. Like I've pointed out before I see nothing except setup speculation and zero scumhunting from your side. even if you don't think "anybody is scum", I'd like your opinions on various players.
A New Zealander, I'm also a kiwi. so I take it you are a kiwi too cruelty?What's kiwi?