Mini 944- Town Suav├® - TAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!!!!! (over)

[Nikanor]

/confirm. ^5 McZ + DTM.

@Locke: Are you town?

[Nikanor]

Well no. But if Locke is town then we win because I always win when I'm on Locke's team (which is three for three games played together now).

[Nikanor]

Yes, I noticed you were in this game.

Tell me, have you ever watched Dances With Wolves? You remind me of him, except that you 'dance' with Coyotes instead of Wolves. *wink wink*

[Nikanor]

EBWOP: Oh, and prepare to die.

[Nikanor]

Random proven fact: If I think Nikanor is scum, he's definitely town. If I think Nikanor is town, he's definitely scum.

This.

[Nikanor]

vote:duckduck96

GOOSE

You are awesome.

I kinda like my role, but I can see that it might get troublesome on the later days, so I think I'm going to claim now. I'm a hider.
Basically, my role allows me to target one person each night, and if that person is town, I get nk immunity. If that person is scum, I die. I also die if the person I am hiding with is killed that night.
The reason for why I'm claiming now is because a) I don't think my role is normal enough so that you guys will know what I am if I die at night, and b) If I die at night, you guys should know who to look at next. Since I've never been an investigative role, none of you have any meta on me telling you who I might have been targeting. Just so you all know, I'm going to go with targeting neutral reads.
Any questions?

[Nikanor]

And since your role is only useful if we can be sure why you died, well, you get the picture...

Well, if there is only one kill, you know that the scum probably just right out blocked and killed me. If there are two kills, you know that I was killed for hiding behind scum/the scum's kill. Now, if a person I think is town dies and I die in the same night, you know that I died for targeting scum, because I'm not going to target my town reads. The only way that my results can be muddied is if the scum kill a neutral read and I die on the same night, which I don't think is going to happen.

Don't answer that, please.

I already did in my claim.

[Nikanor]

I just don't like how he and Duck unvote and point at Par as soon as Nacho calls them out.

Which one is scummier, the leader or the follower?

The immediate vote after the Confid vote, then the immediate vote after the confid unvote is scummy to me.

I was going to say this!

Looking through Kenman's play (as town) in newbie 905, he seems to be acting significantly more analytically in that game than what we can see here, and even when accused manages to keep his cool rather than playing the newbie card.

Meta argument on page four? *Facepalm*

Vote: duckduck.

Kenman is probtown. The only way there is two mafia in this game is if there is an sk, and there is no way sk+mafia+hider would get passed as normal (it could make up to three deaths in one night).

[Nikanor]

Large bandwagon is large.

Nobody put duckduck at L-1, please.

I like him at L-2, so I'm not going to unvote, but I don't want him to be hammered by some scumbag (or himself) pre-maturely.

[Nikanor]

A few of Kens actions have stood out to me as well. An apparent role fishing happened when he asked what roles/how many scum/town etc. It may just be a noob mistake, but only time will tell, and it stands out to me.

tl;dr: I have no opinion on Ken.

Right now im happy with where my random (not anymore) vote went. Duck has become the most suspicious is my eyes. This is mainly for his indecision about his vote, yet he still continued to press a case. This does not makes sense to me at all, and comes off as scummy. Being the first, second and even third vote as this point is not dangerous.

tl;dr: I have nothing new to say.

I guess I wouldn't mind a duckduck lynch right now. Who wants to hammer?

[Nikanor]

Yeah, duckduck is now officially lurkerscum.
Die scum die.

Vote: duckduckduckduckduckduckduck!

[Nikanor]

Why is the muzzz wagon better than the duckduck wagon, Parama?

[Nikanor]

Parama, you realize that duckduck

attacked

Kenman with meta, right? The whole reason for why I want him lynched is because duckduck attacked Kenman with a meta argument, and even said something along the lines of, 'that's one more reason to be suspicious of him,' meaning that duckduck is suspicious of Kenman's actions without voting Kenman (or anyone at all. It might be forgivable if he were voting muzzz or something, but he's not voting anyone atm), making duckduck scum. The lurking from duckduck now is just icing on the cake.

Really, I thought this was obvious.

[Nikanor]

Locke, you've been in a game with duckduck scum before. Granted, he replaced out before you replaced in, and it was ten months ago, but it's the meta you were asking for all the same.
P.S. It doesn't take a meta analysis to realise that duckduck is scum.

My suspicions are divided between Kenman and duckduck. I highly doubt they're a team, obviously.

I would like to hear more from duckduck about what he thinks about kenman.

Your suspicions are divided, eh? May I ask why? You haven't given reasons for suspecting either of them.
Also, your second paragraph here looks like fake scumhunting.

All I see from NS is fake scumhunting and active lurking. NS will be tomorrow's lynch if I die tonight, 'kay? Thanks.

Scum pegged by Nikanor so far:
duckduck
Nobody Special
One of the lurkers (maybe dramonic?)

[Nikanor]

Okay, NOW you're a lurker.

I just put your name down because your spot posted the least. It could just as easily be Coheed or someone else like that.

[Nikanor]

SpyreX! Tell him I suggested his name.

[Nikanor]

SpyreX has already been in enough of my games recently. I need a break from the awesome.

Too late.

[Nikanor]

Hey you posted the above in response to Duckduck's meta call right?

People go back to page 4: Muzz also posted a meta attack

s that muzzz is voting for duckduck. duckduck is not voting for Kenman. If you read what I wrote, you'll see that I state the main reason for why I'm oting duckduck: he made a crappy attack on someone after unvoting that person.

I see no indication on where you mentioned any intention of Duck's lack of voting, and weak argument. It looks entirely like you pieced together with the arguments from Muzz, Nacho (called out on Duck's lack of voting), Nobody (Prod Duck please!) with a hint of ConfidAnon and CoheedCambria09, and LL, and who ever else I'm missing on the Duck wagons.

Arguments are obvious once everyone else made them Nikanor. IGMEOY

I posted that for Parama. He asked what the case was, so I gave it to him.

dramonic, please post something of use before I am forced to kill you.

[Nikanor]

Spyre, don't abandon

us

your scumbuddies now!!

[Nikanor]

i didnt read you making similar menace to my predecessor Nik. Do you feel I am a threat?

Yes. Lurkers are always a threat to making fully informed decisions as a town.
How about you stop making pot-shots and start posting content?

[Nikanor]

HEY DRAMONIC!
I HOPE YOU LIKE THE TASTE OF MY VOTE!

UNVOTE. VOTE: DRAMONIC!

[Nikanor]

@Nik: Your vote is warm and salty.

So I've heard. (Also, you're a perverted man.)

(I like it.)

[Nikanor]

It looks like I'm going to have to explain

yet another

case to Parama.

dramonic is doing nothing. He is actively lurking. He does not do that as town.
Done.

Also, if you wanna pass as a female you shouldnt jump in innuendos like that.

Who said I was trying? >_>

[Nikanor]

@Parama: That's because you read my posts like they're supposed to be read instead of trying to drown someone in a last ditch.

I see it as 'pot-shots are scummy.'

[Nikanor]

Hai. But Muzz metaed Duck? You are ignoring the point. Muzz presented a meta attack on Duck, like Duck presented a meta attack on Ken. Duck's lack of voting, yes that is scummy. Duck's meta attack makes you face palm because it's on page 4? Wait what! Why didn't you apply it to Muzz.

Facepalm != calling someone scummy. When I think someone is scummy for something, I call them scummy for it.
Using meta on page four isn't inherently scummy play. I thought this was obvious, but maybe this is the communication problem we seem to be having. Using meta on page four is bad play, but it is not scummy. That's why I'm not calling muzzz scummy for using a meta argument.

(Aside: I just thought of a bastardy role: A Greater Hider Serial Killer. The Serial Killer kidnaps a player to murder them: but if you shoot his target you kill the Serial Killer. Your "Kill Dramonic" statement made me giggle and come up with this idea )

Why do people keep saying 'Greater *foo*'? It is 'Combined *foo*'.
For example, Super Cream Puff is dccomb, meaning Combined Doctor Cop. You people need to learn this.
For all who don't play Mafia on #mafia on IRC, ignore the above.

(PPS Aside: I heard if you eat lots of fruit, it's actually sweet. )

Uhh, I eat lots of cheese. Does that count for something?

[Nikanor]

I'd give Nik's hider claim an 80-20% chance of being a town maneuver

You realize that this makes 50% assuming a normal distribution of the range you've given, right?

I'm saddened by the lack of promised catch-up posts by Confid.
Coheed is active lurking.
Locke is being his usual flaky self, unfortunately.

[Nikanor]

30% for distribution? I'm about a 10%er myself when I give figures like that. So, its pretty damn confident.

You gave a confidence interval of 80-20%. >_> For it to be that large, I would assume ~99.9% confidence anyway.

If it comes to choosing between the two, lynching Dramonic seems like a slightly more prudent option. But for now, I'm going to hope very hard that Dramonic will see the light, and change his ways.

Why are hoping he changes his ways? It feels like you know dram's alignment when you say this.

[Nikanor]

Perhaps the busiest person in this game. Do you guys know my pet theory? No? Well, I'll tell you: scum tend to either lurk profusely OR post so damned much that eyeballs bleed. Guess what? I think Nik is making my eyeballs bleed. Lots of posts, lots of great content, but....still, that red flag is waay up for me.

Wot.
According to this, I'm scummy for posting too much content. Do you know what the Too Townie fallacy is, NS?
How is that the most noteworthy thing to you so far?
How is that scummier than duckduck's behaviour?
Why aren't you voting me?
Why are you making your connection to Spy so obvious? I think Spy is doing a decent job replacing someone so scummy. It's just so sad that you're giving him away like this.

Unvote. Vote: Nobody Special.

Your scummiest read is the claimed town

bulletproof

PR.

Fixed for you. Hopefully this makes a bit more sense motivation-wise.

[Nikanor]

That's because NS has very clearly contradicted himself. Everyone can agree to lynching that. Not everybody agrees that dramonic's lurking (active or no) is scummy, however. That is why there is a difference in the number of votes they have each garnered.

Just in case you wanted my view on things.

[Nikanor]

Aww. Wanna talk about it?
(Unless you are just luring me closer for an uppercut).

[Nikanor]

post 39 you never heard of a hider? It's pretty normal role since you claimed already you may want to list at least 4 players you find scummy. Breadcrumbing would have been better.

I've played in a game with a hider before....
And I'm not listing my neutral reads (the ones I said I'd investigate) until we've decided to end the day.

post 110 seriously I think this is about 5 post after you said no one put duck at L-1. WTH?

Do you not like it? Do you think it's scummy? This is IIOA.

post 162 why is NS on this list? post 198 all this arguing on meta and you use it to switch your vote? *pleads for sanity*

a) I've explained this, probably.
b) It's not meta. It's just that I wouldn't vote him for it if he did do it as town. For example, I'd gladly vote Locke for lurking if I didn't know that he was a chronic lurker regardless of alignment.

Locke by far is so scummy it makes hurts. First the push on muzz when duck did the EXACT SAME THING AND GETS IGNORED. HELLO!!! MCFLY!!
Ignoring one person over the other scummy.

Why no mention of

my

double standards on that same matter as pointed out by DTM?
I see your post as a lot of information, but I can't really sort out who you think is scummy. Explain please?

The NS wagon sucks because Confid just tried to weasel his way on it.

It's called distancing. Gawd. Why do you think that Confid didn't vote for NS?

Also, I think the only quick-hammers we'd see if NS is scum are self-hammers.

[Nikanor]

IIoA stands for Information Instead of Analysis.

Your a claimed hider but I did call you out for making a meta point and wondering wtf you are thinking.

No, I mean my double standard on duckduck and muzzz both using a meta argument. I called duckduck out on making a meta argument, but didn't say anything about muzzz's meta argument. Why didn't you say anything about that?

You going to "hide" behind your claim and continue to make points that are scummy that's on you.

I don't understand this. I thought it was fairly obvious. What prompted you to say this?

As for the second I think I was pretty damn clear at the end. I assume you didn't read everything so here is the short point at the end I stated.

And who do you think is town?

[Nikanor]

Your going have explain what IIOA has to do with asking you about wanting to lynch duck 5 post later after saying to wait.

You just pointed something out. Was it scummy of me to do that? Was it town of me to do that? What's the point of asking me about it (which you didn't do, btw)? I'm obviously not going to claim day cop.

Is there a reason I should point out you hemming at one person over another? I stopped thinking you were scummy many pages ago. Just don't like where you are coming from.

No, not over. But you

should

be looking at everyone objectively. Something one person does should affect your reads on another. If you think I'm town and that I did the same thing, how is it a scumtell for Locke and not a scumtell for me?

Town views? That's a dumb thing to ask this early? Hell that's a dumb question to ask, period. Do you think I really want to help the scum know or point to who is town in my view?
Should I paint a bullseye on them too?

This is soooo scummy. farside, a town player isn't afraid to share his town reads, because chances are good that the scum will figure it out based on voting history and stuff like that anyway. A scum player is afraid to share his town reads, because he doesn't want to narrow his mislynch options.
Plus, you already said you think I'm town earlier in this post.

2. Some reason it feels like you sidestepped my comment about: how you presented your duckduck vote/meta facepalm comment. You have nothing to say?

Could you repeat what you need answered, then? I thought I had responded to everything you had directed at me.

I see that NS has signed up to mod in the open queue. Verrry interrresting.

DIELURKERSCUMDIE.
Ahem.

[Nikanor]

Registered Users: Cirno, Coyote, Cuetlachtli, danakillsu, dramonic, Elmo, Ether, hitogoroshi, Idiotking, Iecerint, Jahudo, Kenman, Kishime, Lacey, molestargazer, My Milked Eek, Nachomamma8, NavyCherub,

Nobody Special

, ooba, Papa Zito, PatResults, Robocopter87, scotmany12, shadow2222, TheRealGunSmith, yabbaguy, Zang

Look, he's even online.

[Nikanor]

You have two options, NS:
a) Scumhunt
b) Die

Which would you prefer?

[Nikanor]

Please tell me I'm not going to have to teach you how to scumhunt. I don't want to walk you through questions.
Are you going to scumhunt or not?

[Nikanor]

It was highly questionable comment in my view.
Are you being knitpicky for a reason? I did ask you WTH? It was a serious question. You dodged it and are now just asking questions about how I rate you. Are you looking for me to say OMG you are scummy for a reason?
I don't see you as pro-town as far as my read on you. I don't get if your trying to force people to call you scummy for a reason?

How is it questionable? Is questionable supposed to be a code-word for scummy or something?

Let me look at this again. But I keep getting the impression you want me to call you scum based on your claim. I would rather wait and see on you first.
Why are you defending Locke so much?

What you think of me is actually pretty inconsequential, imo. It seems that you're holding Locke and I to a double standard, though, which I don't like because it looks to me as if you're picking on the easier lynch (Locke) and ignoring the harder lynch (me).
Did you end up looking at it again, btw?

I don't see a pro-town reason right now to list my town suspect. Do you? Why is it scummy from farside town? Just becuase I stopped seeing you as scummy doesn't mean I find you town. Your at best someone I wait to see on.
Why are you pushing me for my town views and not others?

I'm asking you for your town reads because I want to see what you think about others, and for future reference. I want to see if you'll contradict yourself.
Also, I'm pressuring you. I see scumminess about you, so I'm pressuring you. Is that difficult to understand?

Can we PLLEEEASE lynch NS already? My lord.

No. I still have unfinished business with farside.
In fact,

Unvote.

[Nikanor]

Nik: That is bull. The easier lynch is NS. How is Locke an easier lynch?

Going against the flow is a scum tactic for town cred, as well as WIFOM.

Why do you avoid my questions?

Do you expect me to answer this:

Are you being knitpicky for a reason?
I don't get if your trying to force people to call you scummy for a reason?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the term is 'building a strawman.'

@Nik: How is what you said about duck have anything to do with Locke ignoring Duck?
I just looked and you responde to the muzz case but feel more confident in duck. How is this similar to what Locke did?

I ignored what muzzz said at first. Locke did the same thing to duckduck. That's what I mean when I say you have double standards in regards to him and I.

[Nikanor]

Towniest

DTMaster b(^-^)z
Kenman b(^-^)z
Nachomamma8 b(^-^)z
Parama b(^-^)z
farside22 b(^-^)z
muzzz b(^-^)z
Locke Lamora b(^-^)z
ConfidAnon b(^-^)z
SpyreX b(^-^)z
dramonic b(^-^)z

Scummiest

A rough list, while I can get it in.

[Nikanor]

I would ask for you to put NS's alignment out now, but the fact that he didn't tell us who to lynch next kinda sorta makes it totally obvious that he's scum.

[Nikanor]

@Suavemod: Would a hypothetical Mafia Roleblocker be able to roleblock and kill in the same night if he is the only mafioso remaining?

I hid behind Locke. I'm not going to be hiding any more, though, knowing that there are two killers and at least two scum left.

So from my PoV there are four or five possible scum here:
dram
muzzz
farside
Fate (kinda sorta not really too confirmed)
Spy (maybe SK, but I doubt it)

Just read him in iso and he stated he would rather scum hunt and failed to do so. Last I checked he found Nik the scummiest for posting to the point of making his eyes bleed. Bleck.

unvote:
vote: ns

Obvious bussing is obvious. Not to mention she was defending Nobody Special all day before this vote, and gave a crap reason for voting him (oh hey I found something mildly scummy! Even though I'm pretty sure he's a VI, I'll throw my vote on him and see what happens!)

Vote: farside22.

[Nikanor]

There's nine people alive now, Spy. If three people die tonight, that'll leave us with five tomorrow... actually, I think I will hide, now that I look at the numbers. Except that this time, I'll hide behind one of my scummier reads, and tell you who my target is. That way, we can go into lylo with a sure thing if I die, and get a spot in a 3p endgame automatically.

[Nikanor]

Fate, stop talking like that. And you're not cleared because we don't know if I've been blocked or not.

[Nikanor]

I don't think I'm told if I am blocked.

[Nikanor]

Based on the mod information, I really highly doubt we have an SK. Not being able to roleblock as lone scum RB in a two-man scumgroup with an SK makes for a fairly imbalanced game.

[Nikanor]

Oh cool story, bro.

Unvote. Vote: Fate.

I hid behind my neutral reads, as I said I would, farside.

[Nikanor]

I really hate to tell you this dram, but I don't think our mod has even heard of Natural Action Resolution.
I don't support a massclaim. I think that all of our power roles are outed now anyway.
dram, here's how it goes down:
We lynch Fate. Either farside is telling the truth and is town, or she's lying scum. I really doubt the possibility of bussing at this point. So we lynch Fate, and if he flips town then we lynch farside.

[Nikanor]

Plus in the normal I created I had 3 mafia and 1 serial killer which I see in most 12 player set ups.

That's stupid. Sorry, but a game in which you can lose from a single mislynch isn't a normal game.

[Nikanor]

Goon
Goon
Goon

SK

Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town

Goon
Goon

SK

Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town

Goon

SK

Town
Town
Town
Town

SK

Town
Town
Town

Then you lynch a townie and lose the game to the SK. Even though you lynched a goon every day save the last day, you still lose.

[Nikanor]

I'm not saying that the mini queue is filled with good mods. There are quite a few bad mods in the world, farside.
Wasn't there a mini game with a cult leader once?

[Nikanor]

He just claimed Townie.

[Nikanor]

So are we lynching him or aren't we?

[Nikanor]

Oh, and I'm hiding behind dram tonight.

[Nikanor]

Of course, the fact that Dram died and Nik didn't makes me unhappy because I think I know where this is going.

Oh, you know where it's going. You know very well.
I'm a townie.

@Mod: Do we know farside's sanity? Supposing she was insane, would we be told that?

We might have a Mafia Redirecter or something like that on our hands.

[Nikanor]

So Spy, I'm wondering why you waited until tonight to "protect" dram. Why did you shoot ConfidAnon over dram n1?

[Nikanor]

Nobody Special

: SpyreX, Parama,

Dramonic

,

ConfidAnon

, muzzz,

farside22

,

Nachomamma8

Let's play "find the scum on this wagon," shall we? The day two lynch is pretty useless info-wise, but day one is decent.
muzzz:
Scummy place on the wagon, and crappy reasoning for a vote. NS was 5th on muzzz's suspect list, meaning that muzzz was effectively neutral on NS, right?
Wrong.
muzzz thought that NS was scummy. Yet he put NS behind every other conceivably scummy person, including Parama, who muzzz only mentioned twice that day.

Vote: muzzz.

It's either muzzz or Parama today. Maybe even both are scum. Paramascum makes sense for the Nacho kill, but I'm not about to lynch someone on NK-analysis alone.

[Nikanor]

@Nik: just because I'm V/LA doesn't mean you can pretend I said things. I never said in which order I posted my scumlist. And I mentioned Par way more than twice.

If this wasn't bullshit, I'm sure you would have told me the order they actually were in.

DTM ignoring my claim makes me feel better about him.

Parama, would you be okay with lynching 12KB today?

[Nikanor]

That's not what I meant. Take a look at the players alive, excluding yourself:

Nikanor
DTMaster
SpyreX
12Keyblade
muzzz

Who do you think the two scum are out of those five?

[Nikanor]

Unvote.

We probably shouldn't be putting somebody at L-1 in mylo.

[Nikanor]

Parama, you didn't answer my question....

[Nikanor]

I meant that there are probably two scum left. Who do you think the scum is, other than muzzz?

[Nikanor]

Cool beans.
Why don't you think I'm scum, Parama?

[Nikanor]

...You know that the claim

was

fake, right? I claimed townie earlier today.

[Nikanor]

I always have strong town reads. I am good at reading townies as town. I think that's how I'm going to scumhunt from now on.
DTM, you think that muzzz is town? Who is the scum, then? We probably have two left.

[Nikanor]

I cAN'T HELP BUT FEE- oops caps lock. I can't help but feel that Kenny was town. I get Blastinusesque feelings about him... remember semioldguy's Open game, Spy?

[Nikanor]

You can trust me, Spy! Kenman was tooown.

And please don't choke me unless we're on a bed.

[Nikanor]

What worries me about this scenario is that it means Kenman may have really slipped up with the comment about a 2-man scumteam.

Good catch. I hadn't thought of that.
Either way, Spy shouldn't shoot 12KB. If Spy IS an SK, we'll know that 12KB is probably scum. If Spy shoots 12KB, we'll know that Spy is probably SKum. If our lynch today flips town and the other two deaths are townies and the game is still ongoing, we'll know that Spy and 12KB are probably the scum in a prisoner's dilemma.
Good stuff.

[Nikanor]

Also Parama, I've been wanting to say this to you:
You're not posting too much yet. You're only 39th on the posts per day list.
Rise a few ranks. Then we'll talk.

[Nikanor]

It's totally your fault. I bet you could play three more if you really wanted to.

[Nikanor]

Okaaay.
I'll let muzzz have his final words, then we'll kill him off.

[Nikanor]

- DTM is most definitely town now. It'd be game over already if he was scum.

Vig/SK-fear stops quickhammers. DTM is not cleared in any way.

- Spy is still scum. He was scum D1, then he lynched a townie, and for the past two days he's been setting up my lynch while doing his best not to stick his neck out.

The only way that Spy is scum is if he's an SK. So it's impossible for Par to be Spy's buddy.

- I don't like Nik's crappy reasoning to vote me, or him ignoring questions. And him admitting he's not a hider on the same day that Spy ups his claim seems like a bit of a coincidence. But I'll take DTM's word for it that Nik just does stuff like that. And he voted both Duck and Special over the course of D1.

The reason that I'm voting you isn't because you're that scummy per se, but because you're the best shot that we have of finding scum, I think.

Here's the list of people we have left:
Nik
DTM
Par
Spy
muzzz
12KB

I know I'm town. I think DTM is town. Spy can't be mafia (unless he's a mafia CPR. If that's the case, then... gg).
That leaves Par, 12KB and muzzz. If Spy is an SK, 12KB is scum for Kenman's scumslip of "there's only two scum". Otherwise, 12KB is likely town. That means he's not an ideal lynch for today, because town wins in an SK-Mafia-Townie setup.
Now we have left Par and muzzz. Uhh, yeah.
The point is that if you flip town, muzzz, the game will continue if Spy kills scum. You're just stuck with the short end of the stick because more people find you scummy.

The point of my claim, muzzz, was to draw a nightkill to someone I found more beneficial to die (my neutral reads). Unfortunately, it didn't quite work out that way. The fact that my targets weren't shot at makes DTM look more guilty, especially since he ignored my claim. Almost like he figured it was fake all along, y'know?

[Nikanor]

Re. Spy - I don't see why he'd have to be a SK. He could just as well be lying scum. It's not like a SK is going to come out and counterclaim. Theoretically, there could even be two scum kills each night, although I'm not sure if that would still qualify as normal.

I don't know why Spy would still be alive right now if he was fakeclaiming the kill, though. He would be killed the next night by the real SK/Vig.

Also, normal? I would not consider CPR Doctor a normal role, but mafia with two kills would require some outstandingly superbly overpowered town, which is something we do not have.

[Nikanor]

Yup.
Well, now we know what he thinks, so.

Vote: muzzz.

[Nikanor]

I wouldn't really mind.

[Nikanor]

Happy scumday Niksy

Thanks, Spy!

Stop stalking me <.<

Said the stalker.

[Nikanor]

He doesn't even has his role, Spy.

[Nikanor]

ITT flavour-writing takes five hours.

[Nikanor]

Parama is giving me the uneasy feelings gais.
The buddying around Spy's GIVE ME BLOOD is unsettling.

[Nikanor]

MrSuave, I demand explanations.

[Nikanor]

Not only that, but he randomly kills someone else if he tries to kill the GF??

[Nikanor]

Lame-o.
Swingy setup ftl.

[Nikanor]

Yes, I agree with pretty much everything Fate has said.
People need to stop putting more than one killing role (mafia) in their mini games. It really cuts down on the information the town has available.

[Nikanor]

Vig and SK are normal, but they make it very hard on the town when they have to do wagon analysis, because there are only one or two days to analyse, instead of three or four.

[Nikanor]

Your post-restriction was half the reason I wanted to lynch you. It was bloody annoying.