Mini 941: (Almost) No Rules Mafia (Game Over)

[Espeonage]

/confirm
Sorry peeps. Only just got online. It isn't even 10am yet.

Vote: CooLDoG

I HATE DOGS

[Espeonage]

When is St.Pats Day?

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LMAO St.Patricks day has been and gone then.

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Oh well then it is today.
And I'm not gonna type in green coz I HATE GREEN!!!

[Espeonage]

Green sucks
Blue and Purple is where it's at.

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Unvote, Vote: Zang

Only scum would like green.

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You've never played a game with bv310 then?

Voe Espeonage

Some of my favorite Irish pubs are in Sydney, and now and Mardi Gras are the best time to visit them. Bad Epsy

Dude, I'm allergic to beer.
Ceoliac... sucks I know.

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I will be back in about two hours.

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You've never played a game with bv310 then?

Voe Espeonage

Some of my favorite Irish pubs are in Sydney, and now and Mardi Gras are the best time to visit them. Bad Epsy

Dude, I'm allergic to beer.
Ceoliac... sucks I know.

Where'd your friends go? 1 of them was in a MishMash I was modding..

They were trying to annoy me by hanging around. They kinda lost interest so I am the only one left.

[Espeonage]

Vote bananas

I want to see the real account.

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unvote, vote: UK

I always wanted to kill a banana but if UK is good then i can do that tomorrow.

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Why does the roleclaim need to be encrypted if the password is public?

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Ah so you don't release the key until your about to die. Ok cool.

[Espeonage]

Sorry I was away. i have little time now so I will look at this properly tomorrow.

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Ok can I have that link again sorry. I will do a crypto claim. I have just been away from internet connection for the last two days.

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BACK. Gimme a sec to do that claim.

Sorry about the wait. I am in the middle of my first assessmewnts for uni and I don't have internet at home.

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##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/
ZZZZZ BQIKA CJOAE CIGAH NXJND SKRWO BFDHF KAAEQ TRLXQ EFLQU RTJXE
SGOWW AMMIJ TICUO OHEFL JIMKG UCACT UNJQF JOAKN XCCCV QFVTH GBEHW
KMCIX MNWEC TCSWW AKDBE PWSGJ MDTEU FXCXF SHEIV DHJMW GLLJT GMUJG
XACMP BFDOI PMQGH TXTOS OANDV QBRQQ ENPQI KRJMR QFHBH XVCHD CSACM
XTDMR BTUSM XDNTE PBJIB HLXKB WVVWL URFMK VPJNM OHTTQ EKIWH NLFBD
MSBXT IPLTX JBPET LDXSJ LELCJ AUKIV UHIAG AGELR MTNJW PFTEV TFJLK
BFRPJ UXTJU MMUJX UBURG PVHQP RRLLG BQUOF QCPIT FOFAJ BJJHO LUKWX
DTWVT MWVEF FRGKD LTDVD OXEXA JKIOQ LDRHR SMLCB VUBDM AKOPI KBCTQ
GAHAW OFGWA QNQVK GHLQW OXJWC VLAEG AMVFF JEAWT AEHID NHFWF MUFEK
XEQAB HOJLB NRFEW NNRMS GXURT CGPUH NQDSO PIUJU CUACW LKQSK FIVMM
GQSMQ SXTJA GHPWE MHJQV NDDGR UNQLS ULPVT SHGFO URFWC HNTMC QLBMJ
SQSLR TERZZ YYYYY
##### End encrypted message

[Espeonage]

i have a lecture in 7 minutes. I might have a look during the lecture otherwise you will have to wait until after when I have a break.

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There isn't that much to look at. I don't see TNTNM is all that bad. It isn't that good but there is nothing there so you guys should stop arguing either way. The main focus of town at this stage should be working out what the go is with UK and Banana.

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xvart claimed??? ok Gimme a sec and I will actually read istead of skim.

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I saw it. Ok makes alot of sense and I believe it. Not really a role that could be scum. Duplicity if noone has said it already.

They should treestump.

gelids claim means not much atm seeing as it is a sham and therefore has an unknown identity

it is too early to pick out definate lurkers. it is a tell based on not only posting frequency but also content.

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This game needs more excitement. Even my boring other game is holding my attention better than this one.
Anyways.
If Hoopla is correct at the top of the page then DocPotter needs to be killed. Why would you use a sham account when you can actually post yourself.
So

Unvote: Vote, Annachie

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I was away from my computer and the first link someone gave was just a link to a whole lot of text and they didn't indicate where to go. then someone gave a link straight to the encoder thingy and so I was able to do it.

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UncertainKitten has been treestumped.

She may post in the game thread as well as make sham accounts, but she may not vote or use any powers.

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It is the fact that he chose to post with his sham instead actually posting. It means he is here but choosing to ignore the game.

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FoS:

Espeonage. "Using a sham account" is not something I see as an automatic scumtell. Please say why you think scum are more likely to do this than town - I can't see a plausible reason.

The fact that he hasn't been posting with his actual account at all makes me see his use of a sham as scummy.

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There isn't anything wrong with using a sham.
The IS a problem with almost never posting with your actual account but instead using a sham.

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What fishy says makles sense.
Bananas is a Flood.

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UK is basically a confirmed scum right? So we should all vote for her?

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At the time it was due to the boldness of the posting. Then I kinda dropped it and let it play out instead. I actually think what Fishy did was basicallly perfect for the town.

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gelid was just a roleclaim and TNTNM was just stupid.

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BACK!!! i hate Assessment tasks.
I will be back in around 8 hours.

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Ok. Hoopla MUST give the key to their crypto-claim OR provide a damn good reason for the fake kill.

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Damn missed deadline.

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Fishy what was your result?

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I'm fair certain that UK is the scum JOAT personally.

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I really hope hoopla is town when she flips or I have been mega framed.
gelid turned up nothing because I did nothing last night. Hoopla is town as far as I am concerned because she got a correct result on me. Sure losing your password is bad but honestly this reliance on cryptoclaims does have a hole when someone does legitimately lose their decrypt code.

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I am almost 100% sure that Hoopla is town, mainly because I am town and she would say that she got a guilty on o town or an innocent on a mafia mamber so therefore, seeing as I am town and she confirmed me as town, Hoopla is town.

Vote: TNM

[Espeonage]

There is more than one faction so giving an innocent on a town is too risky for a mafia member because they might be clearing someone who is in an enemy faction.

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look at the role PM quoted in the night 1 results.

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FishytheFish the Macho Neutral Selector and Jack of All Trades was killed.

Fishy's Role PM

You are one of TWO Macho Neutral Selectors and Jack of All Trades. Things are about to get a little complicated so follow along, sweetheart. I’ll break it down bit by bit.

Selector: You may at any time, when there are 6 or more players alive, choose to pick to become either a Town member or a Mafia member. You may do this at any point during the day or night by PMing me with your choice. When you have selected a side, I will post the following message in game: “The selectors have made their choice!”

There’s just one hitch: if the other Macho Neutral Selector picks before you do, you will automatically be placed on the opposite team that that other Selector picked. If both Selectors PM me within 48 hours of Day 1’s start and both have picked the same side, I will flip a coin (via random.org) to pick whose pick actually went through. Thus, selections will not be made before 48 hours has elapsed in the game.

If you die before selecting, you lose.

I should note that if there is more than one mafia team, I will have designed it so that a particular mafia team will be joined by the mafia selector.

Last, your alignment will NOT be revealed until and unless BOTH Selectors are dead.

Neutral: Self-explanatory, but you start off unaligned, so you are neutral. You are essentially a survivor until you select a side, so if you die, you lose.

Macho: Doctors will not protect you. Jailkeepers will only block your role from working, it won’t protect you. Watchers won’t see who visited you. Any other roles that stop kills will be neutralized.

Jack of All Trades: Your powers vary depending on whether you’re Neutral, Town or Scum.
Neutral: You have the following 1-shot powers: Watch* (see who targets a player), Invent* (send me a target and an item. They’ll get a power based on that item. Careful, some items may have the opposite effect of what you might otherwise think!
Town: You have the following 1-shot powers: Role Cop*, Jailkeep*, Treestump**
Scum: You have the following 1-shot powers: Track*, Ninja* (undetectable by trackers and watchers), Roleblock*, Rolecop*, Treestump**

*Nighttime only powers.
**Treestumping: During the day at any time (provided you have not been hammered or are already dead) you may put this in bold Mod: Treestump me! and this will turn you into a treestump. Any votes on you will be reset, but you can still be voted for. You will no longer have the ability to vote. You will have the power to post still. If you are killed or lynched after this point, you are removed from the game as normal.

Win Cons:
Neutral: Survivor. Only wins if alive and game ends with 6 or more players alive.
Town: You win when all mafia, sks and any other malicious third parties are eliminated.
Scum: You win when all town, sks or any other party that has a win condition contrary to yours is eliminated or nothing can prevent them from being eliminated.

This might be a bit confusing, so any questions you should feel free to ask me about.

Confirm in Thread

Day 2 Vote Count

Hoopla ( 0 )
totallynotmafia ( 0 )
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
xvart ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
Espeonage ( 0 )
DeathNote ( 0 )
CryMeARiver ( 0 )
FishytheFish ( 0 )
Grimmy ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 9 ) animorpherv1 totallynotmafia Espeonage CryMeARiver Zang DeathNote Hoopla xvart Grimmy
Total Votes ( 9 )

With 8 able to vote, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: Tuesday, April 15th at 16:00 EDT

Day 2 Starts Now

My apologies for screwing it up.

bolded the important bit.

[Espeonage]

EBWOP wait I just realised that I missed the IF.

Unvote

You points are valid for now.

[Espeonage]

I still think she is town however I am less suspicious of you than I did 10 minutes ago.
It looks like an innocent mistake at the moment. True I can't be certain that she is town anymore but I still do think she is town.

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Fair conclusion.

I do agree that those couples are probably on the same team. Group A in the Town and Group B in a mafia faction.

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What about the role PM looks fake?

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Umm... maybe take that up with zoraster once the game is over. It looks genuine to me.

1. That is just glass half full v half empty
2. I don't see why he shouldn't mention that. It saves him some butt ache later if people start assuming roles are there when there aren't. It basically helps zoraster not be a bastard mod in a game that already has enough bastardly stuff in it.
3. The one time I was cop I got told either mafia or town not guilty or innocent.

TNM you are clutching at straws here.

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I haven't been playing too much attention to the thread as a whole. Anyways, Deathnote, UK and Zang.

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Picking up Prod.
I will make a post soon.
Sorry that I was away for longer than I anticipated.

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Which ones.

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No. I have not used my power yet.
Should I?

[Espeonage]

Ok I will contact Zoraster then.

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Actually I'm going to wait a bit. My limitations are a bit limiting so I'm not going to rush to use my power.

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Is there any reason why TNM can't be scum?
His VT claim seems very sus and it is usually a pretty safe fake claim for scum.

Suffice it to say

FoS: TNM

[Espeonage]

I gave my crypto claim key on the last page.

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Just realised what you mean.


You are the town Sham Tracer.

Twice a game you may PM me to ask who a particular sham account is. I will tell you who the actual player is behind that account. You may only use this power once per Day/Night (so if you use it Day 2, you may not use it Night 2).

Town: You win when all mafia, sks and any other malicious third parties are eliminated.

Confirm in Thread

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13693

[Espeonage]

Vote: TMN

His claim is obviously fake. Fits with Hoopla's fake claim as well.

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As do I.

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Yeah he would give scum a fake VT claim.

Seeing as you are scum you have a fake VT claim. Thanks for confirming that for us.

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Then how can your VT claim be true if there are no actual VTs? Your digging a big grave atm.

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Ok we will wait then. You aren't going to be lynched just yet. I do think there is a scum in you and Zang. Zang is giving me the hibbie jibbies.

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CMAR's claim makes me feel safer about my vote.

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I have yet to use my power. btw What are the chances of two scum teams in which case both TNM and Deathnote could be scum.

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Multiple scum teams lowers the chance of a scum win even though there are more scummy people. It is a possibility.

If Deathnote turns out to be the towns choice of lynch I will change my vote however I am feeling more sure of the TNM lynch at the moment.

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Just a reminder that the Deadline is on Monday morning. If no one has the majority, no one will be lynched

Keeping this in mind. I am happy with any of the three proposed lynches. I have already shown my suspicions on all of them previously.

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CMAR: If you are picking up on his claim as a point against him then why is that worse than TMN's VT claim?

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Ok This is my post why we should just settle on a lynch.

1. We are close to deadline.
2. We have only one scum left assuming Zoraster isn't being a bastard or countering all out PRs.
3. With a max of two unknown scum we can vote someone out now then have a sure vote for tomorrow by lynching UK (which needs to be done eventually).
4. we as town are in a pretty good position. We have 2 scum already and still have 7 people.

I say we vote out TMN and then get into that argument that is going on tomorrow.

What say the rest of you?

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That is the only evidence on him as far as you seem to say.
TNM has other things on him. His bussing of Hoopla while framing me as Hoopla's buddy and his VT claim when there are probably no real ones.

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That's lynch guys. i personally think TNM was a better choice but what can you do?
UK tomorrow?

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We need to do it at some point. tomorrow is as good a day as any. I'm not very happy with this lynch by the way. DN was my least favorite lynch of the three.

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Yes but the likelyhood of someone losing their key is a bit higher than a single VT. hen the only other VT claim was also scum.

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Lynched.
Ani, you, TNM and CMAR

[Espeonage]

VT is usually a pretty safe claim for a scumbag.
As for the other point UK still counts to her team's person count doesn't she? Therefore that lynch needs to be made at some point.

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I agree with CMAR's post at the top of the page.

We should lynch UK.

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So she doesn't count to scum people?

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Note to self: Trust my gut.